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This is mostly just curiosity.

 

My 11 year old went to boy scout camp this week with his brother and DH.  He has been having some stomach issues (nothing contagious) for a while now and was worried but I told him that if he needed me I could come get him.  It is over a three hour drive one way.  Yesterday morning I got a phone call from DH that while DS was having a great time at camp, his stomach issues were too much and DS wanted me to come pick him up.  He was in a fair amount of pain and not sleeping due to having to be up in the bathroom.

 

DS really didn't want to come home, but felt he wasn't feeling well enough to stay.  He told me several times on the way home how much he appreciated me taking the time to drive down and get him.  I don't regret going to get him at all.  I think overall it was the right choice, though I am sad he is missing the second half of camp.  Today he is sitting around resting, and dealing not just with his stomach issues but with a bad reaction to mosquito bites.  They are huge, swollen, bruised looking and are all starting to blister.

 

I made an appointment with the doctor figuring if it was getting this bad he should be seen.  The nurse told DS that he was lucky to have me for a mom because she would have told her kids to just tough it out.  It got me to thinking, how many parents would just leave their (not contagious) child at camp if they were sick.  I am often in the tough it out camp, but knowing how much DS wanted to be there and that he was asking me to get him, made me feel like it was the right choice this time.  So if it were you would you have picked up your child, or told them to tough it out at camp?

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This is mostly just curiosity.

 

My 11 year old went to boy scout camp this week with his brother and DH.  He has been having some stomach issues (nothing contagious) for a while now and was worried but I told him that if he needed me I could come get him.  It is over a three hour drive one way.  Yesterday morning I got a phone call from DH that while DS was having a great time at camp, his stomach issues were too much and DS wanted me to come pick him up.  He was in a fair amount of pain and not sleeping due to having to be up in the bathroom.

 

DS really didn't want to come home, but felt he wasn't feeling well enough to stay.  He told me several times on the way home how much he appreciated me taking the time to drive down and get him.  I don't regret going to get him at all.  I think overall it was the right choice, though I am sad he is missing the second half of camp.  Today he is sitting around resting, and dealing not just with his stomach issues but with a bad reaction to mosquito bites.  They are huge, swollen, bruised looking and are all starting to blister.

 

I made an appointment with the doctor figuring if it was getting this bad he should be seen.  The nurse told DS that he was lucky to have me for a mom because she would have told her kids to just tough it out.  It got me to thinking, how many parents would just leave their (not contagious) child at camp if they were sick.  I am often in the tough it out camp, but knowing how much DS wanted to be there and that he was asking me to get him, made me feel like it was the right choice this time.  So if it were you would you have picked up your child, or told them to tough it out at camp?

 

This is me, too. Yeah, if it was something he really wanted to do and was still asking to come home, I'd want to go get him. If it was something I felt he'd get over and enjoy camp in the end, I'd let him tough it out.

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It sounds like he was kind of miserable, so yes, I would have picked him up!  

 

If it was random stomach pains for one day but then went away, or just the mosquito bites, or a small cold, or a headache that just last one day, I'd encourage him to stay.

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I wonder if the nurse knows it's a real (undiagnosed) thing - and not an anxiety stomach ache?  

ds had a school counselor who has h3ck on him because of his stomach issues.  (caused lots of problems).  she was insistent it was all psychological.  she only (FINALLY) shut up when I told her the children' hospital didn't think it was psychological. (and stared her down.) - he had a pinched nerve in his spine.

  

if you have any indication from her during your appointment that she thinks it is in his head - I *would* report that to the dr.  a nurses attitude like that can undermine treatment.

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When I was a kid in the early 80's I would go away to camp for a few weeks every summer.  I remember once having some sort of virus.  I had to spend a few nights in the infirmary cabin, and then went back to my bunk when I was feeling better.  I don't even think going home was mentioned.  Another year a bunkmate of mine was bit by a snake while swimming.  She ended up spending two nights in the hospital but then came back to camp. 

 

Your situation sounds different though because your son isn't receiving medical intervention at the camp.  If his problem is inhibiting how he functions then he needs medical attention right away.  If it is an ongoing problem that has been addressed medically already then you probably knew going in what might happen.  In that case it really should have been up to your family.

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You definitely did the right thing.  

 

My oldest had undiagnosed gluten intolerance for a few years and was in almost constant pain.  I cannot imagine telling a child in pain, "Oh just suck it up."  There is a difference between telling a child, "yes I know your tummy is hurting again today, but I do still want you to do a page of math" and "Sorry you are in so much pain that you want to leave an activity that you are otherwise enjoying, but suck it up all by yourself far away from your mommy because I don't want to drive to get you."

 

Your nurse is a meanie.  

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The two things that make this an obvious decision to pick up for me are:

1) known issue. You could determine in advance that this situation might come up

2) dh was on site. You have a parent who can evaluate the situation in person

 

Without those two, it may be hard to tell if kid is just homesick, etc, but you have a real medical situation and picking him up is appropriate.

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I wonder if the nurse knows it's a real (undiagnosed) thing - and not an anxiety stomach ache?  

ds had a school counselor who has h3ck on him because of his stomach issues.  (caused lots of problems).  she was insistent it was all psychological.  she only (FINALLY) shut up when I told her the children' hospital didn't think it was psychological. (and stared her down.) - he had a pinched nerve in his spine.

  

if you have any indication from her during your appointment that she thinks it is in his head - I *would* report that to the dr.  a nurses attitude like that can undermine treatment.

 

:iagree: The nurse should have kept her mouth shut.  That said stomach issues can be amplified by stress and lack of sleep and the type of junky diet a kid might focus on at camp.  They see lots of that kind of thing in the peds office but she shouldn't be pre diagnosing anything. 

 

OP - if they are slow to diagnose I'd focus on a very clean diet with minimal sugar and adding probiotics to his diet.  I do 1-2 TBSP of ground flax a day too (I would start that slow, maybe with a tsp).  You could also try an elimination diet?  Does he have any known allergies or sensitivities?

 

FTR, I have had gut issues and IBS and I have found it does help me personally to stay on top of stress and anxiety, sleeping, clean diet, exercise all help.  Gut issues can take a lot of trial and error to figure out.  I hope it's something straightforward!  :grouphug:

 

ETA - as to the original question on picking up.  I think people know their kids best.  If you had a kid that was known to have a nervous stomach and was twitchy about going to camp and you were working without a flexible schedule, I can see a different parent making a different decision.  It really is a bit of a privilege to be able to jump in a car and drive for 6 hours in a day on a dime.  With another parent on site telling you that you should, it seems like a no brainer.  The nurse shouldn't have made any assumptions.

 

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Doesn't really matter what any of the rest of us would have done, you had an agreement with your son before he departed that if he wanted to be picked up, you would come and get him. And that is what you did. You are a good mom. And I think you probably have a very mature young man on your hands there.

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Dh was right on-site and recommended ds coming home. That would have been more than enough for me to pick up ds.  Was there ever a question?  I'm not sure if the nurse was aware of the fact that the father was on-site. I can imagine anyone NOT going to fetch the child. 

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I would have picked him up.

 

Your dh is aware of the situation, and it sounds like he was there. This was as much his judgement call as yours.  This isn't a homesick tummy ache issue.

Ds wanted to be there, and is missing out, while I assume your DH is staying behind.

This is a know health issue.

Stomach issues are uncomfortable, but they can also be embarrassing.

You made a game plan ahead of time to pick him up if needed....you honored that, which is Huge in a relationships.  You trusted Ds's assessment of the situation and your Dh's too.

 

I assume the nurse was just chatting, and obviously didn't know all the details.  Yes, there are some hard A$$ parents out there who would have made their kid stick it out, but I wouldn't expect them to end up in nursing LOL.

 

 

 

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I would have picked him up, but I also don't usually work during the summer, and I have a car.

I can see how parents who both work full time might not be able to pick up a child unless they absolutely had to, because they would have no alternative child care. Some people also might not have the transportation to do an unplanned trip.

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Yes, in this situation.

 

I can imagine situations where I wouldn't have.  It sounds like this was an known issue thiygh, and it was ingoing, so that indicates its more serious.  And you didn't think he was exagerating to get out of it.

 

So it seems like an easy decision.

 

Some camps are set up for kids to be sick at, that would make a difference.  I knew kids at university who went to boarding schools and camps all summer - they were expected to deal with anything pretty much.

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My DD's college campus program got hit in one of the dorms by a stomach virus that seemed to pass pretty fast, but led to some miserable kids in the meantime. Fortunately, it didn't hit DD's hall (and they really pushed handwashing and kept the affected hall separate). it was a bad situation because many of the kids don't have a parent close enough to pick them up within a few hours-we fly out as a family and stay close by because we don't have a direct flight, but many kids fly non-stop ash an unaccompanied minor.

 

As it turned out, it resolved overnight for basically all the kids-about 12 hours of abject misery, and then fine. So, after the first kid ended up recovering before the parents even could get there, the nurse started recommending not to rush to get them, but to wait a day. The poor nurse earned whatever she made and then some, I'm sure...

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Thanks all.

 

I was pretty sure it wasn't homesickness.  He has been going to sleep away camps since he was pretty little and he had DH, his brother, and his friends with him.

 

I have taken him to the doctor a few times, but they have never taken it very seriously.  This time they seem to be more concerned, maybe the fact that he had to leave camp, something he loves, made them realize it was something to look into more?  Anyway, they are testing him for giardia and a few other things and having him keep a food/pain dairy for a week with regular food, and then do a week without any dairy to see if it may be lactose intolerance.  He had a lot of food allergies as a baby/toddler that he outgrew.  He was allergic to eggs, dairy, soy, peanuts, and almonds.  He is still allergic to almonds and avoids pit fruits.  He also has environmental and medical allergies.  It sounds like we will be having to do elimination diet to figure out what is possibly causing it.  Not easy, since DS has so few foods he eats already.

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I think that if the child's parent who is right there, and able to offer some help managing the situation at camp, says that the situation isn't working at camp, then clearly the child needs to go home.  

 

Having said that, as a parent who doesn't drive, figuring out a way to pick up my kid partway through camp would be challenging.  So, I can see why parents would be tempted to let a child work it out.  

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Based on the fact that DH felt he needed picked up, I would have picked him up.

 

Last year I had a kid complaining at camp.  Honestly the biggest issue was the heat, and they kept making her drink volumes of water to keep her "hydrated" which was actually making her sick.  Then they told her she was not allowed to cover up to prevent the bugs from feasting on her in the night.  (She gets bad reactions to bug bites.)  I asked them to lay off her and let her go to sleep and see how she felt in the morning.  Come morning they said she refused breakfast, was "shutting down," and I needed to come get her.  I drove down to find her happily participating in the canoeing activity, far from "shutting down."  But she was glad to be out of that place with its hydromania, LOL. 

 

Was I a bad mom for making her "stick it out" overnight?  No, knowing my kid as I do, she was OK and probably would have been OK staying the rest of the week also.  I have several thoughts about the management of that camp but I hashed those all out a year ago, LOL.

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I am on my phone and I don't know how to link on my phone but as I write this there is a story on Fox News dot com about a 11 year old NJ boy who was at a camp in PA. He is dead now. I believe you did the correct thing for your DS.

 

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I am on my phone and I don't know how to link on my phone but as I write this there is a story on Fox News dot com about a 11 year old NJ boy who was at a camp in PA. He is dead now. I believe you did the correct thing for your DS.

 

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http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/07/13/11-year-old-dies-at-sleep-away-camp-after-complaining-stomach-issues.html

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I don't think there was anything wrong with you picking him up since it seems like he was feeling too sick to do much of anything, but I also agree with your decision to take him to the dr. If the stomach issues are causing him to miss activities, then it is time to find out what is going on.

My own DS could not make it through a Scout overnight for like two years because he always got sick to his stomach. It took us a while to figure out that he was having problems with gluten. (He did go on a couple of trips where he got sick but was too far away from home to co e home early but I have picked him up or he was dropped off at home from many troop camp outs)

 

On the other hand, a scout in our troop fell over a curb and broke his arm on the first night of his first summer camp to a that is 9hrs from home. This was This past Saturday. The troop was staying overnight at a KOA on the way to camp. The kid had to have surgery to have a pin put in his arm. The troop leader was prepared to drive him home the next day, but the dr released the boy and said he was fine to go to camp Andre that he just had to stay out of the water. The boy did not want to go home and his parents allowed him to stay. Pictures that have been shared show him looking happy.

 

It just depends on the kid and the family.

 

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I would have got my kid, but my kid is rarely sick with stomach issues (anymore my youngest was allergic to dairy). So it would be odd for them to complain about that. They would complain about different issues. 

 

If your child is suffering from any sort of IBS issue, you might ask your child's doctor about VSL-3. It is widely available probiotic that has clinical trials to back it up. I recently started taking it (you don't need a script for it) and I have liked it. You may have to get a pharmacy to order it, and it has to be refrigerated but it could be worth it. 

 

Good luck!

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Surely the nurse didn't catch that he had been having stomach problems BEFORE camp, that it wasn't just a 24 hour bug or something you tough out. That would have been totally ABSURD to leave an undiagnosed, increasing medical problem untreated. 

 

She must have not understood or else she forgot her meds or something. Pay her no mind. 

 

So is he ok? Did they figure out why he was having the pain?

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