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  1. PeterPan

    Are you going to a convention?

    Oh dear! Maybe you can become a reading buddy or volunteer somewhere to do academic tutoring? My retired aunt volunteers as a reading tutor and they trained her in OG. She works with adults and finds it very rewarding.
  2. PeterPan

    Talk to me about transitioning to B&M school

    I definitely think you should take the break you want, enroll them in school if you want. However I will say, are you taking care of yourself? You're younger than me (just looking at your sig), but I'm to the point where I need away every winter for a break. I just took a cruise. I took ds but didn't take dh. (I did invite him, he doesn't swim and didn't want to go.) Just bye, gone, outa here. I've done Disney, same gig. Everybody, even extroverts, need mental health time, breaks, time alone. If you've been working hard with no recognition and no significant mental health breaks, that's a problem! I tend to need those long breaks at least twice a year. Also check your vitamin D levels. As far as how you announced that, yeah that was kinda abrupt and might reflect that you're not feeling well or are very frustrated. Have they been total pains in the butt lately? Maybe you need to declare a two week snow holiday for EVERYONE'S mental health? You want this to be a good change, not to be something they interpret as you being angry at them. Now I'm not saying I'm so nice either. I tell my ds school is prison and I'm sending him if he doesn't cooperate, snort. In his case it actually would be because it would be all ASD, no peer models, and my ds doesn't lIKE hanging with all ASD. Or he'd be in an ED classroom in a self-contained unit. So I'm actually telling him the truth. But if I were MAKING that choice, I'd sell it up as an adventure, this will be good for us, here's how we're making it happy. Take a cruise, take a break, go do field trips, take vitamin D. Do whatever it takes to get back your happy. Hire a babysitter temp for a week and just go shop without them. Figure out what you need right now. It's ok to enroll them, but you still need your mojo and your peace back.
  3. PeterPan

    Are you going to a convention?

    Well I USED to go religiously, every year, the whole thing. I was at the very first Cincy convention years ago, haha, and always went to CHEO before that. I faded out as my ds became my emphasis. Nothing fits him, nothing applies, and probably I could be giving those talks. The last time I went I think I did the free hall night plus a day pass for the hall and went to no talks. I can't remember the last year I went to talks, but it would have been maybe 5 years ago. I just really have to stay focused in my mind on exactly where ds is and I can't let myself get into any fancies or theories or someone else's opinions. It's a really tricky thing. Like it's great that so and so also has a kid with that diagnosis, but I have to treat my ds with integrity, teaching HIM where HE is. We're all going through our journeys and mine isn't going to be someone else's. Also the other shift was to realizing I was putting all my money into therapy-based materials. So it's stuff they don't even sell at conventions, sigh. I can go for just the vendor hall and find stuff, but to buy more is a waste and distraction, wishing he were different than he is. As far as high school, even my dd was pretty custom by that point. But yeah, I think maybe before her junior year was the last time I seriously went, like unskippably, must figure this out. My best thing about conventions was our meet-ups, getting pepped up to keep going, and talking with other people. I learned a ton talking with other people from here on the boards. I'm one of those strange people who goes to a convention and comes out knowing a lot of people. I have no clue how. It even happens at other conventions on other topics, lol. I guess I just talk a lot? So THAT for me was the value. People will tell you things in person they don't say on the boards and you just get this context. I say make it what you want. The (Hyatt? I forget) beside the Duke has a beautiful pool. One year we did the free hall night and then stayed and did the vendor hall pass on the cheap. That was a lot of fun. Take a kid along if you want and make it a memory! I've driven it all in one day (2 1/2 hours each way) and that's rough. See if there's someone you could shack up with if you want. Of course 30 minutes isn't bad, mercy. Or take a girlfriend with you and get some windshield time?
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    CRUISE people - make some suggestions please!

    Ooo, definitely re-think that! Our ship (the Magic) had this sandwich stand that was AMAZING. People would line up while they made custom grilled/toasted/panini type sandwiches. You'd do an excursion and then eat/share a sandwich to hold you till dinner. You're gonna come back from shore HUNGRY! And if they have the Guy's Burgers, well those are pretty good too for people who eat beef. I just had the fries with ice cream, wow. But my ds said the burgers were awesome. Not really dinner, but worth the calories, haha. When your SIL is picking boats, look at the specialty restaurants, definitely. The Cucina del Capitano has free lunches that are as tasty as dinner, just smaller portions or different. So you don't get all the appetizers, etc. but it's still REALLY tasty. And the upcharge for dinner is maybe $15 a person. The Guy's bbq (pig and anchor) is really good too. When it's open the lines will be crazy because it's blow your mind good. I chose our boat for the bbq, no kidding. It's only lunch. They serve salad stuff at breakfast, so by dinner you've eaten so healthy you can splurge.
  5. PeterPan

    CRUISE people - make some suggestions please!

    I wonder if the length of the cruise also affects it. For our 7 day there was a lot of bling that first formal night. My mom had on a cute print dress and felt under-dressed. Nobody said anything, but she felt under-dressed. But I've heard the vibe varies with cruises. There was very little overt drunkeness on this 7 day cruise either. I think people were just settled in for the long haul. Lots of 50+ and maybe a little more quiet than my impression is of some of the cruises. On this cruise also a lot of people were doing back to backs (two weeks in a row). So it was pretty settled in.
  6. PeterPan

    CRUISE people - make some suggestions please!

    On our 7 day cruise, people did tend to dress more formally for the first formal night, lotsa bling. They come around and take pictures of you. Nobody will say anything, but wear something you'd like a picture of yourself in. Also the food is better. Total aside, but if you have a thing for indian food, the way to get it is in the MDR. CRAZY good. I personally wouldn't be comfortable eating the lido buffet for dinner. It tended to be more starchy, the less expensive food from the MDR menu. It's also a bit depressing. The MDR will be much more comfortable and where you probably want to be.
  7. PeterPan

    Spouses, roles, understandings

    There comes a point where those people in those mainstream settings don't want to solve your problems. They don't WANT your problems, even if they're small. Now sometimes you'll get people who can handle it (we had a gymnastics coach like this). But in general, it's now to the point where pretty much if my ds can't blend in seamlessly, it's my problem to solve, not theirs. And if the leader is reporting problems, she can be saying she didn't like having it happen. Otherwise, if she had it handled and was comfortable with it, then why mention anything? I find the people who have it under control (or are trying) tend to cover over things. It's just something to be sensitive to if your working assumption is that she's cool with it and the leader isn't any longer. I get a lot more responses like this than people wanting to help. There comes a point where they no longer want your problems.
  8. PeterPan

    Spouses, roles, understandings

    How did your dh respond (to them, to you) when they told him this?
  9. https://pubs.asha.org/doi/10.1044/2018_LSHSS-DYSLC-18-0049 The Spell-Links people sent around an abstract of this, and it's pretty interesting.
  10. PeterPan

    Help with metronome work

    My ds has been working with a music therapist and they hit the timing and metronome work together. She was able to get it into smaller pieces and do it in more ways. (more instruments, more games, more rhythm patterns, etc.)
  11. I've done the CAT many times with my kids, sometimes through CLP and sometimes through Seton (I think? It was a catholic provider). Honestly I just use whoever shows up at the homeschool convention with a deal, lol. They have both online and print options. You can't do it yourself but I'm a HUGE fan of the Woodcock Johnson if you can get someone to administer it. It's done in about 45 minutes, has no ceiling, and kicks out actual grade levels for everything, not equivalences or whatever. It will cost you a fuzz more, but you'll really like the data you get. But the CAT or whatever is fine too. Just google standardized testing service homeschool and I'll bet a scad of places turn up. There are more detailed tests like the Iowa, but I never fiddle around with them. I just test for our state reporting.
  12. PeterPan

    Alternatives to Fast ForWord?

    You're addressing an area that's controversial and hard to treat anywhere. The SLPs consider APD a language disorder. They'll look at studies of bilingual children with differences comprehending in background noise in language 1 vs. 2. They also consider that APD testing is done with language instead of beeps or noises. Now I think it's more complicated, because retained reflexes affect language development too and kids who integrate retained reflexes get a language bump. So if you're saying you're treating a language delay, language disorder, language processing problem, then how good is the therapy system REALLY at treating that? Like if you invested a similar amount of money in SLP hours, how much progress would they make? I'm cynical, because my ds has significant disabilities and his IEP says something pathetic like 20 minutes a week of speech therapy. So I'm just looking at it practically, that anything is moving up and more service is better than little to no service, especially if the SLP won't have a clear game plan and won't be given hours even if s/he does. But if you asked the question of whether working on retained reflexes would bump the language and eliminate the need for the FFW, that's an interesting one that I don't have data on. Clearly if you do therapy on someone who has a physical underlying glitch then you still haven't treated the glitch. But then we're back to our jaded reality of IEPs and intervention, sigh.
  13. PeterPan

    When to start spelling

    With a developmental optometrist or a regular one? You might check to see if you can find a good developmental optometrist and not bother with the regular one. The wait won't be that long, and they can screen for convergence, etc. Dyslexia is not a vision problem, but vision problems will make any reading challenge worse. Well the best way to sort that out is with data. Around here, I can get a certified OG reading tutor to run the CTOPP and the DAR (so a test of phonological processing and a reading level test) for just $75. That's a lotta info for $75. And at that point you can make your own assessment about whether her progress is appropriate or not. As far as the abbreviations, google them, as they're pretty common. Definitely do that Barton pretest. You just print and administer, won't take long. This is the right age to be asking the questions. You're just looking for the simplest way to get some info so you can sort out whether it's a bigger deal or not. I would go by the data, not administrator assurances.
  14. PeterPan

    Loses non practiced skills

    Do they have some kind of intro to gymnastics or tumbling class? Our Y has *adaptive* classes for gymnastics and swimming, and you might try to get her into the adaptive gymnastics to start with. Or go and observe and see how you'd think she would do. Just something with a slower pace and more personal attention. My ds needed a lot of help with the motor planning and smaller classes but he could do it.
  15. Parents see so much more of kids with spectrum, so if you show the videos to PARENTS, they'll say yes that was what my kid was like. But psychs, school teachers, etc. see kids in such limited doses that they miss stuff or have this over-arching philosophy they put on top of what they see. So I had a (and I really don't have nice words for him) $$$$ neuropsych tell me that my ds, who flapped when happy/excited, was reciting whole pages from audiobooks verbatim, on and on, was doing all this because he was gifted. The psych just had a paradigm. And I've had ps intervention specialists in my home who saw everything, tick down the list, from the ADOS, and they had NO CLUE what they were seeing. But I had a parent watch video of my ds at age 5 and she's like yeah that's what my ds did at that age, you should have evals. So I personally think that these diagnosing professionals aren't quite as knowledgeable as we endow them as being. They see a lot of kids, but they see them for snippets. We LIVE with our kids. Yeah, you read the articles on girl spectrum and boy and it's pretty clear it would make any tool fallible and result in late diagnoses. On the other hand, this 3 yo sounds like she's not in the grey zone but is all the way there. The other parent is pushing for it, and parent gut is more correct, statistically, than the psychs.
  16. I'm missing the point on the videos. If you want her play and interactions analyzed, you want an ADOS. Then it's standardized. A psych has little to make of your random video and most I saw ignored all the real life stuff I gave them like that. They'll spend time critiquing the teacher, saying whose fault it was, and all sorts of other stupidity. The ADOS is standardized. Or an RDI eval where they video and analyze joint attention, etc. can be good. We've done that, yes, highly recommend. But for the rest I'd just make the appointment, get the ADOS run by someone who is really experienced with it (or by a team who are all ADOS-trained) and be done with it. Ironically, some of the ps in our area now have whole IEP teams that are ADOS-trained. That kicks butt in my book. Otherwise people are seeing stuff and they have NO CLUE what they're seeing. I kid you not. You just wait another year or two and you're gonna have your own stories.
  17. https://mindwingconcepts.com/blogs/news/29759873-looking-at-expository-discourse-across-the-grade-levels https://mindwingconcepts.com/blogs/news/101708225-analyze-a-narrative-writing-sample I'm gonna toss you out an idea that is answering the question I don't think you knew you had. You're needing to know what the stages are of narrative development and how they bridge from narrative to expository discourse. So that 1st link shows types of expository writing you might be interested in teaching at some point and the 2nd link shows the stages of narrative development. And what you'll find then, at least with this coming (MW/SGM) is they've linked the two so you can see easily how teaching narratives (for fiction) does indeed promote expository writing and the skills do transfer over! So just in general, we're going to let narratives be pretty free form and just generally appropriate for retelling through about 3rd, and then as the dc is ready we're going to bring in concision, figuring out what the point was, and beginning to explore dialectic level and rhetorical devices. (beginning at the end, emphasizing details to show a moral, changing the setting, etc.) That age is variable, and some kids just go through all these stages naturally and beautifully on their own, with just the most gentle prompting. Some kids need a lot more hand-holding. If the dc has EF issues (executive function) due to ADHD, ASD, whatever, then yes I'm going to expect more hand-holding. What you're doing sounds really good and it sounds like you're finding the amount of support he needs to succeed, which is perfect. I'm not sure his age, but I would not worry about transitioning to summarizing unless the dc is around 4th grade age. Until then, I think a natural narrative development, where he's expanding the setting/character description, making clear what the problem was and what the plan was to solve the problem, showing the sequence of actions, and so on is just totally appropriate. The more language the better. If he's not getting it into his *own* words, that's something to work on. You'd like to see him being more and more able to transition from telling lots of actions to listing the most important actions. That's not so much a summary (which could involve even more concision) so much as seeing what is important to the whole story. (detail vs. whole thinking) The charts I'm linking you to are nifty because you then see how his narratives, and where he's at with narrative, leads naturally to what expository structures he's ready for. It's what SWB has in WTM, but it happens so naturally there and seamlessly that you don't necessarily get it all nicely listed out like this. For my ds, who has SLD Writing and some other disabilities, having this breakdown to make the steps more clear is helpful. So no the basic purpose of narration is DEVELOPING NARRATIVE LANGUAGE. At a point, summarizing will be developmentally appropriate.
  18. PeterPan

    need advice on math

    What's the difference in the skills for the two games? It sounds like the game was too hard for her and she wasn't ready. With kid monopoly, are the numbers lower or the supports higher? I think it's basically addition within single digits, yes? I would definitely want that IQ and working memory, also processing speed...
  19. Her need for support sounds more significant than for your older dd. I think you have a pressing situation there and agree with Lecka that you ought to be pursuing evals (because your dh is seeing it, because you have lots of red flags). But the reason to do it NOW is because early intervention is where it's at. The outcome is SO much better with early intervention. If you don't, she's going to be 6, 7, 8, 10 with the same deficits and then you're scrambling for options. If you start now, the system knows what to do with her. You could call EI, get her evaled, get play therapy (Play Project, Hanen) and love it. Those interventions dry up around 5-6 because they assume the ps takes over and they assume the kid HAD those interventions. So with my ds getting diagnosed at 6 he was screwed, always behind the 8 ball, always being treated with this assumption that he must not have NEEDED those thorough interventions, when he really did. I also think you're thinking of spectrum too homogenously, rather than allowing for levels of support and varieties. My ds has a language effect and his language drops when he's stressed, etc. Your dc don't seem to have any effect on language, cool. But that doesn't mean it's not spectrum. As Lecka said, you have so many red flags, it's glaring. And for your oldest, check out the Social Thinking article on communication profiles. You've noticed a lot of really good things. There's sort of a grey zone where severe ADHD merges into the spectrum. It's not like a tight line or yes/no. It's more like we keep ticking boxes, it's there. So you're going to end up addressing what's there, because whether they call it severe ADHD with social delay or ASD1, it really doesn't matter. Either way, the interventions are the same and either way she needs them. What gets you into pickles is if you say well it's ADHD so she doesn't need social intervention or this or that. The interventions, as the ADHD becomes more severe and the ASD support level drops, are the SAME. So the key is to DO them and be honest about what you're seeing. Some of the more subtle deficits become more apparent with time. My ds, because of his gifted IQ, could pass pragmatics tests at 5-7 that he couldn't pass by 10. Super bright kids have this ability to mask, to copy, to memorize, so sometimes it takes longer to become apparent.
  20. PeterPan

    Alternatives to Fast ForWord?

    Well if the school can pay it, sounds better to do the 5 student licensing. It does seem unique. Do they have any research to give you to back their product? Language is something we never do enough of or can get enough of. Think about it. If what it's doing is even at all comparable to the bump in language processing that would come if an SLP worked on language, then think about the HOURS you'd have to bill to get there. Makes the software a bargain. I think it's a common enough yes in schools that if you have the budget for it it could be good to *try* just to see what happens. That price for 5 kids isn't so bad, seems to me.
  21. PeterPan

    Verb usage in kids

    Wanna do a little poll on how many peds miss ASD right before the kid gets diagnosed ASD2? So here's your problem. All of the bolded things by themselves are issues that should be getting him referred for SLP evals. He is ps or homeschooled? If he's homeschooled, it's high time. He should be 100% intelligible even if he still has articulation errors. At 7 they'll treat articulation errors too, but I'm saying he should be INTELLIGIBLE, meaning people know what he MEANT. Intelligibility is how prosody (his tone and pacing) and all kinds of things come together. It's most telling when it's strangers, people in the grocery store. If he is not 100% intelligible to a stranger in the grocery store, he needs a referral. As far as the verbs, the SPELT is the test she wants. More likely they'll run the CELF or CASL, but I'd be wanting the SPELT. And here's the thing, because his reading is affected at this point, you don't know whether there's phonological processing going on or whether there's a language delay causing reading comprehension issues. You're about to snowball into a BIG PROBLEM that the system will NOT be prepared to treat if you wait. If you start now, the system knows what to do. Wait and it is going to be a bigger problem. Wait long enough and they'll give up and not even have materials. He's only 7.5 now, but when that same kid is 10-12 it's a LOT HARDER to find the materials. I've gone through it with my ds, sigh. So NOW is the time. It is NOT jumping the gun. It's about saving some major heartache here. I would want testing of phonological processing, narrative language, and of course expressive/receptive language. The SLP should go ahead and run pragmatics while they're at it and a test of auditory processing if they own it and a test of problem solving. The SLP will know what all those things are, but the mom wants to make sure they happen. Depending on what they find there, I would be referring for psych as well. If the insurance will cover SLP testing, start there. The psych will have a longer wait and you want info and intervention sooner.
  22. PeterPan

    SAT Accomodations

    Have you tried sample tests on him to see which test is better (ACT or SAT) and whether extended time changes his scores? It probably does, but still it's good info to have.
  23. PeterPan

    need advice on math

    https://www.rainbowresource.com/product/sku/042608 Here the ones I have are 0-100 but the newer ones are 0-120. Stupid cheap, super useful. RB has a pile and she'll throw them on the floor for mats, write on the blank sites with a dry-erase marker, etc.
  24. PeterPan

    need advice on math

    RB has some cute games for this. I think we had a Race to 100 game where we'd try to fill in the board rolling dice doctored only to show 1-3. We had games she called filling the bus, like a british double decker bus, but I called it Monkey Math and cut the frame out of cute monkey print foam. We had another we did with 100 grids (cheap on Rainbow Resource) where you'd roll, place a penny, roll again, and jump to add. So that bridging idea came through the games, very quietly. If you get on RB's FB page, she shows pictures of the manips she uses, and then you can ask her where she got them or what they're called. She uses ante poker cards, a ruler that has a slot for cuisinaire rods, all kinds of cool things.
  25. PeterPan

    Loses non practiced skills

    They will let 12 and up in the big gym at our Y. Does your gym/Y have anyone teaching weights? I would just talk with them. Actually even machines would be good for her. Our Y has a women/youth room with smaller-sized machines that don't have to be adjusted so much. I think that's for ages 10+
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