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Bluegoat last won the day on October 30 2018

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  1. Bluegoat

    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    Why would churches be responsible to provide social security for the children of people who are religious? Those children are citizens, they are entitled to all the same benefits as every other child. Having children is one of the fundamental human activities. It's so easy to slip into thinking of it as a lifestyle choice which needs to be optimised, but it's absolutely corrosive socially.
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    I understood the bolded to be the sort of thing they are talking about - not these American homeschoolers looking to infiltrate Russia, but Russia trying to build connections with these right-wing organisations. Even there, I would doubt they care about homeschoolers really, it would be just more a matter of building these connections across many of the right kinds of organisations. Creating sort of a wide net of relationships.
  3. Bluegoat

    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    I agree with this totally. I think though where people sometimes have trouble conceptualising this is because it is also true that communities change over time, in an organic way, often because of other changes in the environment or whatever. Those changes aren't always bad or catastrophic. Or, if it is, it's not always someones fault. So - how do we decide when to support change, or where there has to be people moving away? As an example, there are communities in Canada that existed for fisheries that no longer exist. There is still a community in terms of the relationships, but the material basis for that community is gone and it is very difficult to see a new one for many of them. Simply supporting them indefinitely where they are doesn't seem to be a good solution for anyone. People have a hard time, I think, discerning when the problem is more structural, and could be helped, and when it can't.
  4. Bluegoat

    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    I think it comes down to people seeing children as a lifestyle choice. I see that comment all the time, it's as if middle class peopleof this type see children as sort of status pets. I've seen very serious calls, from people who are supposedly progressives, to not give social supports for poor people who have more than one or two kids - that is, no matter how many more children there are, support is calculated as if there are no more than two children. In this view, kids are a consumer choice of parents, and not really even citizens on their own right. I think the connection to reproductive choice is a little complicated - for many people the justification for this way of thinking is that we have readily available birth control and abortion, no one has to have a baby - where these fail the solution is to improve access so people who should not be having kids can avoid doing so. Even those with moral or religious objections to those have to live with the consequences of their beliefs which might just include poverty. But again, that's individualism for you - there is no society in that worldview. There isn't really even an organic family, just people who happen to live together.
  5. Bluegoat

    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    I think this is all inherent in meritocracy, and it's the inevitable outcome of individualism. Maybe controversially, I think accepting the existence of class might be part of a solution. We can't have a society where the goal is to make everyone a middle class office worker.
  6. Bluegoat

    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    It's not that odd I don't think. France does it, for one. It's also something that used to be more common in workplaces. It's not, IMO, just a matter of providing for the less well off, though it does mean people get a hot meal at least once a day. It's a matter of being civilised - kids sit down once a day, talk together, and rushed out after 10 min to gobbletheir food, they learn how to sit at a table and eat with utensils and have a conversation.
  7. Bluegoat

    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    It' true some won't. But in places where these things are offered, they do make a difference. Not always in a single generation, but over several, something like post secondary training has a profound effect. And I do not at all mean university education. I mean university, trades, what used to be called secretarial training, beauty school, etc. It's really kind of crazy that so many places don't offer this, as a population with education and job skills is just good for everyone and pays for itself.
  8. Bluegoat

    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    Probably one of the most generally affective things to do is simply have a solid set of social security policies, and reducing the income gap, so that you have more children who are not coming from the worst sorts of poverty. An effective educational system and state supported higher education. Actual food in school lunches for everyone. Good community rec opportunities, for free. And so on.
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    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    Oh, I think I know what you speak of. The thing is though, once that becomes the standard, just what you do - that junk isn't something carted away you just put it in the yard, it gets out of control very quickly. And it just isn't noticed. I mean, imagine every time people decluttered they just stuck it into the back yard - it would pile up very quickly. And some people are more or less hoarders, and I think poverty can really exacerbate that.
  10. Bluegoat

    Homeschooling a strong willed child

    I don't know if I have much advice, but she sounds a lot like my 11 year old dd, so I am very sympathetic. Especially the wanting to have the last word and strong sense of being hard done by - the latter drives me up the wall. I did find with my dd14 that she was difficult at right around the same age, though a lot less difficult, which has always been a personality difference. She is much, much better now. But - I did actually send her to school for a few years. It had pros and cons which migh be different for you, I guess one pro was that by the time she came back home she was in a less adversarial frame of mind, so I didn't bear the brunt of trying to teach those few years. OTOH, I am sure she'd have come round in much the same way if she had stayed at home. I am really really hoping the dd11 follows a similar pattern.
  11. Bluegoat

    The stress of poverty - poverty as a disease

    The other thing can actually be just practical. I've been in a situation where I had junk to get rid of, but actually had no capacity to get rid of it. No vehicle to take it to the dump, no money to pay to have someone else do it. So what do you do? You stick it whee you can and eventually you are going to learn to ignore it.
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    Oh, I agree that there are no firm conclusions in the article, and it's tending to be alarmist. But I think that is rather different than being anti-factual. It may be anti-factual, I really am not going to look it all up as I don't care that much. But accurate with a strong view in one direction isn't necessarily bad journalism.
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    I don't think slanted is really the right way to characterise it. It's coming from a particular point of view, sure, but that doesn't mean that it is either wrong, or dishonest in the inks it is making. Given some of the really weird stuff going on now with certain right-wing groups and Russia, it is really interesting to see that an organisation like HSLDA is working so much in Russia and even just taking such an interest. Is it naive, or something else? What is driving that interest?
  14. I've used a few things. We are more CM so in early years we do copywork/dictation, and then for composition we use narration of various kinds. I've used Writing &Rhetoric Fable a few times around grade 3, and Bravewriter, in later elementary.
  15. Bluegoat

    Doctor Who!!!!!!!

    Yeah, what the heck was Clara about? And the Victorian lizard lady? It always seemed like some odd dream sequence to me. I kind of disliked the Riversong plot too, so as that was emphasised more I really didn't like it.
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