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Mrs Tiggywinkle

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Regarding the new job, if you’re worried that citing childcare issues would burn that particular bridge for later, you might just tell them that you would like to move your start date out to Sept. 15 or something similar, and see what they say.  Say that you are in the process of moving and want to give the job your full attention when you start it, so you’d like to postpone that start.

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On 5/6/2021 at 2:57 PM, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

 

UPDATE: I emailed and rescinded my acceptance this morning. The hiring manager freaked out on me, so I think I dodged a bullet.

I have a fantastic job offer that I also have to turn down, and I have to figure out how to do it without burning bridges at that company.  I want to apply for some positions there in the fall, but I won’t have affordable childcare this summer. Fortunately next summer, we’ll be living in a county with a fantastic and affordable summer rec program so it won’t be an issue.

adulting is hard.

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For some reason I can't quote AND reply in the same response, so here's my reply.

It really does sound like you dodged a bullet. Thank goodness you turned it down.

As for the other job offer, instead of turning it down, would it be possible to accept, but delay your start date until the fall?

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Delays go both ways--I once interviewed for a job, and they liked me, but they felt more confident about the fit of another candidate. They were pretty positive another position was going to open up, and they definitely wanted me for it and wanted to stay in touch. A lot of people thought that was a red flag and that they were leading me on, but I didn't get other offers in the meantime, so I kept in touch. They did hire me for the next position a few weeks later (same title and responsibilities, different product line). That was the best job I ever had, and the product line I worked on was a better fit for me. 

If they are flexible about the start or at least will keep you in mind for the next opening if they can't wait, that might signal what kind of employer they'll be in the long run. 

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Mrs Tiggywinkle

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Just now, WildflowerMom said:

I'm really proud of you.   You have shown amazing strength and perseverance during obstacles that most people would cave under.   You deserve this job and you're going to do an awesome job at it.  They are lucky to have you joining that office.  💛💛💛

Wow, this made me cry. Thank you. I graduate with my master’s degree on Thursday.

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14 minutes ago, fraidycat said:

That is FANTASTIC news! I'm so glad you had the courage to explain your circumstances and not just turn the job down outright.

I was really just hoping to not burn a bridge with this company by explaining.  It’s large and has a reputation for being the best human service agency to work for in the area, but it can be hard to get hired there.   It turned out better than I had hoped for. 

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On 5/6/2021 at 4:57 PM, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

I got offered a job at a social service agency providing services for families of children with behavioral, mental, emotional and development disabilities.  Other than salary and the travel, I’d love the job.  I can take the pay cut sort of and accepted it.

But then I get this email from HR stating that they need the following: 

 

  1. Schedule Pre Employment/Post Offer Physical Exam

This physical exam is a “work physical”. The provider will be provided the job description of the position that you have been offered. It will include vital signs, vision screening, urine drug screening(please note we do screen for THC) bloodwork and a complete physical examination by a medical provider including an EKG.  The provider will be a Physician, Physician’s Assistant or Nurse Practitioner.  You will need to sign the accompanying forms allowing HR to view the results and your medical records.

....auto documents (-provide car inspection—NYS proof of car inspection as well as the car inspection report) car registration paperwork, insurance limits of liability (at least $100,000/$300,000), etc.

I have to drive to client’s homes but will never be transporting clients anywhere.  I’ve never seen any wanting the actual printed report of my car inspection and I’m sure I threw it out anyway. 

It all feels very invasive, especially the physical.  Especially for a part time position offering $15.75 an hour but requiring a master’s degree. This is a social service agency that’s just started in my area, so I don’t have anyone to really quiz about the company culture.

Or am I way off base? Other social service agencies I’ve worked for only required a drug screen and proof of car insurance. Also, marijuana is legal in my state, but I know as a federal Class 1 drug it can still be screened for. I do have a medical marijuana card, but that’s not something I want everyone knowing, especially an employer. (My current employer has a marijuana policy and it’s not a problem)

 

UPDATE: I emailed and rescinded my acceptance this morning. The hiring manager freaked out on me, so I think I dodged a bullet.

I have a fantastic job offer that I also have to turn down, and I have to figure out how to do it without burning bridges at that company.  I want to apply for some positions there in the fall, but I won’t have affordable childcare this summer. Fortunately next summer, we’ll be living in a county with a fantastic and affordable summer rec program so it won’t be an issue.

adulting is hard.

UPDATE 2:  I called HR of the second job and left a message with the HR person handling my job offer. I explained a little and stated that I hoped to reapply with their company again in the future.

She called me back and said you don’t remember me, but I’ve never forgotten your name.  Apparently eight years ago, I was the paramedic who responded when her toddler son choked on a Lego and cleared his airway. I actually do remember the call and that she had asked for my name.  She never forgot that.
She said look, I really want to help you out. And they offered me a job share at 1/2 time; more money per hour and vacation time even at a part time job.  And when I am living someplace where I have reasonable child care or my kids are older, I can easily go full time.

I immediately accepted. 🙂 🙂 🙂   I will be a family specialist working with therapeutic foster families, birth families and the foster children.

I LOVE this for you!  Congratulations!

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On 5/6/2021 at 4:57 PM, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

UPDATE 2:  I called HR of the second job and left a message with the HR person handling my job offer. I explained a little and stated that I hoped to reapply with their company again in the future.

She called me back and said you don’t remember me, but I’ve never forgotten your name.  Apparently eight years ago, I was the paramedic who responded when her toddler son choked on a Lego and cleared his airway. I actually do remember the call and that she had asked for my name.  She never forgot that.
She said look, I really want to help you out. And they offered me a job share at 1/2 time; more money per hour and vacation time even at a part time job.  And when I am living someplace where I have reasonable child care or my kids are older, I can easily go full time.

I immediately accepted. 🙂 🙂 🙂   I will be a family specialist working with therapeutic foster families, birth families and the foster children.

Oh, wow. What an amazing update!! That's so great! 

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On 5/6/2021 at 4:57 PM, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

She called me back and said you don’t remember me, but I’ve never forgotten your name.  Apparently eight years ago, I was the paramedic who responded when her toddler son choked on a Lego and cleared his airway. I actually do remember the call and that she had asked for my name.  She never forgot that.
She said look, I really want to help you out. And they offered me a job share at 1/2 time; more money per hour and vacation time even at a part time job.  And when I am living someplace where I have reasonable child care or my kids are older, I can easily go full time.

That is SO COOL! What a wonderful provision. It's really special when things come full circle.

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