Guest Olivia21 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Growing up, the idea of being homeschooled seemed to be amazing. Having a parent teach while still in pajamas and having anything to eat for lunch wasn’t a bad idea. However, as people got older, this desire changed. Not having group work in class, play school sports, or enjoy school activities didn’t seem fun at all. Even though having the ability to control the learning speed, students who are homeschooled miss the development of social skills, having limited resources and preparedness for the real world. The development of social skills is crucial in the life of a student. Since homeschooled students miss the ability to mingle with other students, it can cause issues in their social development that can affect them later on in life. Traditional students have the chance to interact with other students, teachers, and administrators in numerous ways throughout their school day. The lack of interaction can cause homeschooled students “shyness that comes with not being around other kids, and a tendency to work better as an individual†(The Advantages and Disadvantages). It is essential that students learn how to work with others because future events may force them to interact with others. Soon, parents of homeschooled students would soon have to find other means of socialization for their child, due to not having the ability to do so through school. Students who are homeschooled develop weak social skills due to limited socialization with others. The type and amount of resources available at school is instrumental to students’ educational growth. Imagine a chemistry class without being able to do lab experiments. The answer would most likely be uninteresting. Homeschooled students feel the same way because the resources they need are not always available to them. Since “schools will have better books, and the teachers will have a better education than a parentâ€the resources traditional students have are better than students who are homeschooled (The Advantages and Disadvantages).Homeschooled students depend on their parents to teach them accurately and efficiently whereas, a traditional student has a qualified teacher that specializes in that subject. Parents are then forced to buy the students’ necessities for each class they are taking, which can cause a financial strain on the family.Qualified teachers also have more experience on different styles of teaching that could assist children in the learning process.Homeschooled students are cheated out valuable learning assets that can affect then tremendously in the future. Furthermore, students who are homeschool miss valuable educational resources that could cause them to struggle in the future. Issues that develop in high school can help students later on in life. Making deadlines, having conflicts with others, and following disciplinary rules are all issues that can occur in the future. Going through challenges in high school prepares students for similar issues in the future. Traditional students learn how to manage and resolve uprising issues while homeschool students would be oblivious on how to handle the situation. In high school, students learn how to develop relationships with others. Not being able to mingle, homeschool students miss out on learning how to create relationships with others. Homeschool students only see issues that their parent allows to happen, while a traditional student has to deal with every situation that comes. Homeschool students are unaware and have tunnel vision on how life really is due to always being sheltered. Traditional students also have an advantage of being socially diverse and being able to work with different groups of people. This can benefit students tremendously when they become adults. Since homeschooled students are not socially diverse, they will develop problems when asked to work with different people. Once again, homeschooled students lack the ability to handle the real world. Homeschooled students miss out on valuable tools needed in life. Parents also have a greater responsibility in the education of their child if they teach from home. The thought of homeschooling is disregarded after evaluating all the issues that would come with it. Students gain more knowledge and skills by attending a traditional school. Not only will they enjoy school with friends and be in a real classroom setting, but they will benefit from the experience tremendously. Homeschooling deprives students from social skills, puts limitation on resources, and makes children unprepared for the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 reported 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momma2three Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Good grief! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 These are some compelling arguments. I think I'll enroll my kids in school now. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Does anyone else want to pull out the red pen? 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Teacher to student: "Wow, that's a great essay. Maybe you should post it on a random message board and see what they say." 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 9th grade essay? Reminds me of the anti-medicine bs I wrote in high school. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 These are some compelling arguments. I think I'll enroll my kids in school now. Have you been persuaded? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 9th grade essay? Reminds me of the anti-medicine bs I wrote in high school. I gave a speech on why I thought prostitution should be legalized. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamiof5 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Lol! Someone has too much time in their hands and wants to stirr the pot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syllieann Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 9th grade essay? Reminds me of the anti-medicine bs I wrote in high school. Sadly, it's probably a college essay (judging by the oh-so-original name) in one of the remedial English classes available at most universities. She's probably taking the class because she failed to acquire basic communication skills in high school. Just think how poorly our homeschooled students will write if this is what highly-trained experts produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Sadly, it's probably a college essay (judging by the oh-so-original name) in one of the remedial English classes available at most universities. She's probably taking the class because she failed to acquire basic communication skills in high school. Just think how poorly our homeschooled students will write if this is what highly-trained experts produce. Why would the name indicate that it's a college essay? Not denying it could be a college essay. Just wondering what the name says about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syllieann Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Why would the name indicate that it's a college essay? Not denying it could be a college essay. Just wondering what the name says about it. Because people are fond of putting their age into their name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 That does it; we're heading back to school. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 When this poster first posted there was a spam link at the bottom of the article. Now it isn't there. I wonder what that was about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Garga Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Ooooo! I used to work for a test prep company. Our students were given assignments to write essays and my job was to assess the essays. I can hardly stop myself from assessing this essay. Oh, so many mistakes! I don't even care about content; it's the grammatical mistakes that are jumping out at me. Must. Not. Assess. The. Essay. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I didn't get any further than "group work" being considered "fun" in the second sentence. Clearly, there must be a different world somewhere in the universe that this person has perhaps experienced? 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndGenHomeschooler Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I should send my kids to school so that they can learn to write that well? No thanks... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooksandBoys Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I didn't get any further than "group work" being considered "fun" in the second sentence. Clearly, there must be a different world somewhere in the universe that this person has perhaps experienced? No kidding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMD Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Random on the internet, clearly you've put more love and thought than I have into what is best for my kids. I'll just go ahead and change my entire life around so you'll approve. K? Yawn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Because people are fond of putting their age into their name. Ohhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lea_lpz Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Sadly, it's probably a college essay (judging by the oh-so-original name) in one of the remedial English classes available at most universities. She's probably taking the class because she failed to acquire basic communication skills in high school. Just think how poorly our homeschooled students will write if this is what highly-trained experts produce. If it's a college essay it's a really bad one. It cites one source, a website at that, not an academic journal, and makes many assertions without on any citations to back the claims up. "Imagine taking chemistry and not having the resources to go to a lab or do experiments." Cute! Maybe I should link a chemistry set you can buy online.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwik Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Surely someone finds group work fun? Nobody i know but someone? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lea_lpz Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Because people are fond of putting their age into their name. Didn't notice that! I hope she's really not a senior in college writing like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Oh my goodness, I never thought about science experiments! And....books? Do we need books? Looks like I better let the kids out of the basement too. I'm so busy controlling every aspect of my kids' lives so that they don't go through any challenges or hard issues, how will I find time to address these startling new revelations? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joker Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 This made me laugh so hard! My dds are in ps and oldest has been working on a group project in a 20th Century Lit class. She finally was fed up with the other members not pulling their weight and actually went to the teacher. Dd didn't even get to complete her first sentence before her teacher said she knew what was going on and was already grading her individually. This wasn't the first time but dd has been getting so frustrated with those types of projects and doing the bulk of the work. So, these projects really seem to be a lesson in how to advocate for yourself and not tell off your classmates. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewingmama Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I think this essay should be retitled..."Homeschooling Fallacies and Stereotypes 101". It made me smile for the day lol 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I just can't get over how horribly written this is. Olivia clearly has no idea how dreadfully bad the writing is or she'd never put this online. The mistakes are making me twitch. It's like looking at a crooked picture on the wall. I want to straighten it. That line about a chemistry class not having experiments, followed by the line, "The answer would most likely would be uninteresting," doesn't make any sense. She didn't ask a question, so she can't write "the answer...". URGH. I'm assessing the essay after I said I wouldn't! Must. Leave. This. Thread. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Some of the choices in tense ("The thought of homeschooling is disregarded after...") make me think this person's first language isn't English. In which case, bravo! This isn't bad. If English is your first language, I'm so sorry. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I don't think anyone is going to come back for Olivia's defense, and I don't even homeschool. It's a ridicule thread not a debate thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I just can't get over how horribly written this is. Olivia clearly has no idea how dreadfully bad the writing is or she'd never put this online. The mistakes are making me twitch. It's like looking at a crooked picture on the wall. I want to straighten it. That line about a chemistry class not having experiments, followed by the line, "The answer would most likely would be uninteresting," doesn't make any sense. She didn't ask a question, so she can't write "the answer...". URGH. I'm assessing the essay after I said I wouldn't! Must. Leave. This. Thread. I love the part about how schools have better books and teachers are better educated than parents. Obviously this person has never been to, well, pretty much any school ever. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I don't think anyone is going to come back for Olivia's defense, and I don't even homeschool. It's a ridicule thread not a debate thread. Actually, it's spam. Really excellent spam from which the mods removed the link so that we could ridicule it for our own enjoyment. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I love the part about how schools have better books and teachers are better educated than parents. Obviously this person has never been to, well, pretty much any school ever. Or into the massive library equivalents that festoon all homeschooling homes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Or into the massive library equivalents that festoon all homeschooling homes. Yep. I think it's probably a homeschooler rite of passage to look worriedly at your floors at some point and ponder their structural soundness as you assemble yet another bookcase. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2scouts Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I tried to articulate my feelings about this essay, but this is all I've got. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I don't think anyone is going to come back for Olivia's defense, and I don't even homeschool. It's a ridicule thread not a debate thread. Because it deserves to be ridiculed, not debated. :hat: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawthorne44 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I hope Olivia comes back. I see her last visit was 5:20 pm shortly after her post, so she doesn't know she started a genuine thread. Maybe instead of being 21 she is 12 and dyslexic. That is my theory. "limited resources" (laughs while blowing a raspberry) DD already has more kids books than the local library. I might have a book problem. She has better art/craft supplies than I ever had in school. And she goes to art classes in a genuine art studio twice a week, bringing home much more impressive projects. She owns the teaching toys that I'd been allowed to play with once like counting bears and c-rods. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 :coolgleamA: Wow, this plus the email link my mom sent me from a Facebook message that announces the local school down the street is #1 in our state really makes me want to send my kids to a public school. :lol: :smilielol5: :rofl: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawthorne44 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 that would be an interesting debate topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Actually, it's spam. Really excellent spam from which the mods removed the link so that we could ridicule it for our own enjoyment. I really think this is it because when I first saw and reported it, there was a link (which I did not click) after the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 You should assess. Maybe they posted so they could get assistance! Ooooo! I used to work for a test prep company. Our students were given assignments to write essays and my job was to assess the essays. I can hardly stop myself from assessing this essay. Oh, so many mistakes! I don't even care about content; it's the grammatical mistakes that are jumping out at me. Must. Not. Assess. The. Essay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDmom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Some of the choices in tense ("The thought of homeschooling is disregarded after...") make me think this person's first language isn't English. In which case, bravo! This isn't bad. If English is your first language, I'm so sorry. My vote is that it was written in Chinese and went through Google Translate. I can't actually read the essay closely without twitching uncontrollably, but I've had fun reading comments after skimming thought the op! Thanks for the laugh this morning ladies! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 DD already has more kids books than the local library. I might have a book problem. She has better art/craft supplies than I ever had in school. And she goes to art classes in a genuine art studio twice a week, bringing home much more impressive projects. She owns the teaching toys that I'd been allowed to play with once like counting bears and c-rods. My dd's have now taken three outside Physics classes between them, two at ps and one at the CC. They say the CPO lab equipment we got for 8th grade Physics at home was way better than anything they've had in the outside labs. Ironic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 My vote is that it was written in Chinese and went through Google Translate. I can't actually read the essay closely without twitching uncontrollably, but I've had fun reading comments after skimming thought the op! Thanks for the laugh this morning ladies! But the part where Olivia uses quotation marks is actually quoting someone from an answers.yahoo.com question. Which is a little disturbing because it seems to imply that this was a "researched" essay... This essay reminds me of the plagiarized work that my students would turn in when I used to teach online classes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 My vote is that it was written in Chinese and went through Google Translate. Some of the choices in tense ("The thought of homeschooling is disregarded after...") make me think this person's first language isn't English. I've read a fair amount of writing by students learning English as a second language, and this really doesn't sound like that to me. It's hard to describe...but there's something charming about ESL constructs that I don't see as I read this (ridiculous arguments notwithstanding!) I hope Olivia comes back. I see her last visit was 5:20 pm shortly after her post, so she doesn't know she started a genuine thread. Maybe instead of being 21 she is 12 and dyslexic. That is my theory. I'd be very surprised if it was someone that young. The vocabulary, examples, and overall structure sound like someone older to me. To me it sounds like one of two possibilities. One, a teen or young adult who struggles with writing but has some underlying skills. Someone who is trying to sound formal without really grasping how to do so. Someone who decides to reword a sentence, changes text on her laptop and then either doesn't re-read the sentence to hear how it sounds, or reads what she *thinks* is there instead of what's actually there. I've had to work a lot with this type of writer, and in another context I'd have much sympathy for the struggles and the amount of time and effort it takes to get this far. Two, a teen or young adult who thinks a rough draft is the same thing as a final draft, changed some wording mid-thought the way one might in an email, and then never proofread to find the errors. This type of student probably pulled off writing like this in high school and then thought the same would fly in college. (This really reads to me like a response to an English class writing prompt for a 5 paragraph essay.) Course, why someone chose to spam WTM with it might throw all theories out of the water--I can't make any sense of that piece! (I'm very curious what the spam link was that was removed, LOL!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I was curious so I fed it through a plagiarism checker to see if it could find the source but it only came back to here. It's so weird to me that this was originally with a spam link. All the other ideas about it made sense - that it was some high school kid's assignment or something. But why would a spambot put this up? It's so bizarre. I do not understand the world of internet spam. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Girl Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Well bless her little heart. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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