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1. ## Spiral Pre-A options?

If did want to come back and share that part of my decision was based on the fact that my daughter gets bored with rote computation style problems. After looking over the scant samples I could find of various spiral options, I think she would wilt with a more standard pre-algebra curriculum. She doesn't mind occasional rote computation, and it can be good for review, but a whole page of it bothers her.
2. ## Spiral Pre-A options?

My daughter is up for trying AoPS PreA. So what we're going to try is to use that but add in Khan academy for spiral review. I'm not quite sure how I'll do that, I'll probably manually assign stuff for her to do that I think she'd benefit from seeing again.
3. ## xPost: Testing through AoPS?

You could try the "do you need this?" tests from AoPS and use what they get wrong to guide you in what chapters to cover.
4. ## Standardized Testing

I'm in a state that requires testing for homeschool students. I figure that if we have to take the time and money to test, I may as well choose one that gives me useful information. I've found something workable for me for elementary years, but I'm having trouble finding something for accelerated learners in middle school. My oldest did the MAP test this year. I thought that since it was adaptive and I was able to find the norms that it could be useful. When he took it, I saw some of the questions it gave him. They were definitely high school level math and reading questions that he was getting tested on, and his score is near the ceiling of what I've read the test can accurately measure. So I'm thinking this may not be a useful one to do next year. I'm debating having him do the SAT, figuring that an out of level test might be more useful. We're not interested in talent search or GT programs. How does a middle schooler with no photo ID take the SAT? Are score reports useful? Are they still useful if it is taken on the young side by someone not profoundly gifted? He'll be studying geometry next year, if that makes a difference. Are there other standardized tests that I should look into?
5. ## New Apologia General Science?

You can get unit 1 to preview at this site: https://homeschool-101.com/generalscience
6. ## Spiral Pre-A options?

I think the pace of the online AoPS PreA class would be too fast for her, and she likes having me as a teacher. Unless you were just referring to Alcumus as the online portion. I know Alcumus does some review, but I'm not sure it is frequent enough to keep things remembered. Does review come up more often if you work to green instead of blue before moving to the next topic? I'm looking for her PreA work to solidify elementary math and boost her confidence while preparing her for Algebra. At this point I'm not sure if AoPS Algebra or Jacob's Algebra will be a better fit for her. If one could go from TT PreA to Jacobs or AoPS Algebra, I'd be willing to do it.
7. ## Spiral Pre-A options?

My daughter is good at math, but is also good at forgetting if she doesn't use something. A quick review brings it back, but she gets discouraged that she has to have the review in the first place. Right now she's working in Beast Academy 5C. I'm looking ahead to Pre-Algebra. I think she could handle AOPS Pre-A, but I'm also thinking she might gain more confidence if we do a spiral pre-algebra program. Other than Saxon, what spiral Pre-A programs are out there? ETA: I don't want an online or video based curriculum; I prefer a textbook, workbook, or other physical resource.
8. ## Science for 7th and 8th - options?

I plan on using Conceptual Integrated Science Explorations (Hewitt, etc) next year with my son. It's, unfortunately, out of print, but used copies are still easy enough to find.

11. ## Raspberry Pi

My son has an enjoys playing with his arduino. He's interested in getting a Raspberry Pi. Other than the fact that it exists, I don't know much about it. What does it do? What does he need to get started with it? Anything you want to share or resources you can point me to?
12. ## vitamins and depression

I talked to my doctor, and she's good with me switching from 50k D twice a week to two 5000 every day to see if that improves my symptoms. What brands do people recommend for 5000 IU D3?
13. ## vitamins and depression

So let's say that I do have some undetected genetic issue that can cause B vitamin issues. Isn't the B-right formula one that would be ok with that?
14. ## vitamins and depression

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15. ## vitamins and depression

My D level is 16. The last time I had taken this dose, eight weeks brought my D up by 20 from where it was, so I know this form and dose works for me. My MTHFR result was homozygous normal, no mutation on either copy of the gene. For T4, they gave me both the free T4 number and the range, and mine was in the range.
16. ## vitamins and depression

I'm taking the large dose of D to get my levels up. The plan after that is to take more frequent smaller doses. I'm in an area of the country where it's likely I'm low on D due to lack of sun. No vitamin K. The MTHFR testing was by my doctor many years ago by my doctor. I think there was only one gene tested?
17. ## vitamins and depression

My TSH and free T4 have been tested, but not my free T3. The TSH and T4 were normal (numbers given, in normal range). My adrenal hasn't been tested. I just finished my period, so it's not that. My depression has had hormonal fluctuations in the past, and I'm at a point in my cycle where I'm typically OK. As for being weepy, it's at a point on my personal depression scale that is worse that I have been, but not my recent worst. Before I started medication, I was worse than weepy, where the depression was affecting my day to day functioning. I have had MTHFR testing, don't have it. If something was missed, the vitamin I'm taking is this one, which is supposed to be OK for MTHFR. I've been on this form of D before, and it didn't cause issues then. It's a 50k D, twice a week.
18. ## vitamins and depression

Is it possible for taking vitamins to make depression worse? I got my vitamin D level tested, and I'm deficient. I've started taking a mega dose of vitamin D along with a B-complex vitamin. It's only been a week and a half, but it feels like the depression is worse. It's been a long time since I've been weepy for no reason, but I'm on the verge of crying for no reason right now. Is this a it-gets-worse-before-it-gets-better vitamin issue? Should I stop the B-complex (my B levels weren't tested, but my doctor recommended them)? Prior to starting the vitamins, my anti-depressant has made the depression manageable where I'm melancholy sometimes, but not depressed to the point of affecting my daily function.
19. ## Should I push 6 yr in math?

I'd say for K she's fine doing it the way she is. If it bothers you, change her to doing math by time rather than lesson when you start 1st grade. She may wind up flying through the 1st grade material, but that's fine. Just move her on to 2nd grade books when she finishes the 1st grade books. Doing it by time also ensures that when she hits new material that takes more work on her part, you won't be pushing her faster than she's capable of.
20. ## Prodigy as main maths

With my kids, Prodigy tends to skip around too much. Even though it advances them in grade level, there are topics they've never touched on. You could use the teacher override to set plans to make sure he covers the topics you want. But with the lack of teaching, it could cause problems further on.
21. ## MCT Grammar

We use the grammar, practice, writing, and vocabulary books (we skip the poetry book). I read a small bit each day from one of the books, starting the year with the grammar book. After the grammar book is completed, we rotate through the other books. I skip the writing exercises/assignments, but still read the writing books because (at least at the island and town levels, not as much at the voyage level) the writing book reinforces the grammar book nicely. We do all work either orally or on a dry erase board.
22. ## Grammar program comparison thread

I forgot a program we've used! Fix-It Grammar, book 2 (Robin Hood) * The student is supposed to copy the sentence(s) after going over it with the instructor, so, yes, it has a lot of writing. One could theoretically skip that, but I counted it as copywork and had my kids do it. * Unless you aren't a fan of copywork, it doesn't really have busywork. * No diagramming taught. I found that with MCT, we could diagram the practice sentences--this is not the case with Fix-It, as the sentence structure is too complex for my kids to diagram on their own. * It gives a lot of practice identifying independent and dependent clauses, more so than the other programs we've used. It also gives more practice with punctuating quotes than other programs. I did tweak it heavily, though. We used our own terminology (adjective clause rather than "who-which clause", independent clause rather than "main clause", etc). I also had my kids mark the part of speech for every word (which Fix-It does not require) and also mark subject complements, direct objects, and indirect objects (not required in level 2, perhaps required in higher levels). Since my kids knew about participle phrases and infinitive phrases, I had them mark those, too (not required, and not too many, since level 2 isn't meant to teach those). As we did it, it became a rigorous grammar program. I think it would have been light for my kids and where they were at without those modifications. If used as written and without prior grammar exposure, it probably would be fine. * In some ways it was easy to jump into level 2 for my kids who had prior grammar teaching (nothing too hard, some parts were just the right level of difficulty). But in some ways, it was tricky, because the program was assuming less knowledge than my kids actually had. * I might use it again simply because I already own it. If I were to do that year again, though, I'd likely use Daily Grammar Practice (DGP) instead, as it includes diagramming and requires more marking. The downside of DGP is that the teacher needs to know grammar to teach it, as there are no lessons included to teach new (to the student) concepts.
23. ## Grammar program comparison thread

ELTL levels 1-4/A-D * It is integrated (writing, grammar, spelling through prepared dictation), so, yes, it has a lot of writing. If you just did the grammar, it wouldn't be much writing, but it would take a lot of time to do all the reading/lessons just for grammar. You can easily do the grammar work on a white board. * I didn't do it exactly as written (skipped dictation, only one copywork a day). Done that way, it didn't feel like busy work. My kids didn't like having to diagram so many sentences each day, but I think that was what made it such a strong program. * Yes, diagramming starts in level 3/C. * I don't think it would be hard to jump in, especially since each level has so much review. * I've moved away from it. I really liked the grammar instruction/exercises (especially in levels C and D). But the writing didn't work with my kids, and, as stated above, it would take too much time to use it just for grammar. MCT: Island, Town (currently using Voyage) * Although writing is included (if you do all the books), we don't do the writing assignments. We do almost everything orally or on a white board. * I think the vocab books can have busy work (word finds, roman numeral math, etc), and the writing books have assignments that don't seem useful, but the grammar portions don't have busy work. * No diagramming taught, it does analysis that is helpful for diagramming (although it bothers me that the analysis doesn't by default include the student stating what is being modified by any given adjective, adverb, or phrase). * The instruction was very clear and concise. The practice sentences help cement the material. * I think one could easily jump in. There's a lot of review and the sentences to analyze start out very simple. * I do want to do it again. I'm trying to figure out how to fit it in with my youngest while also teaching diagramming. Beowulf Grammar (only one level available) * I did a lot of it orally with my kids. Done as written, it's not writing heavy, but there is writing. * It had some busywork. There are a lot of activities to learn about prepositions, for example. We skipped those. * It does teach diagramming. * It's fun and colorful. I'm planning on using at least the first half again as an introduction to parts of speech for my youngest. * It's a stand alone program. Easy to jump into and skip parts that your kids have solid. * This would be expensive to print (it's a PDF curriculum). But if you can do it on a tablet using a PDF viewer that lets you write/mark up the PDF, that's a great way to use it.
24. ## Besides here, good place for course reviews?

Levels don't equal grades for MCT LA. I'm pretty sure level 1 is for gifted 3rd graders. So CE I and II are more for 4th-7th grade or so.
25. ## Memorizing measurement conversions...

I don't push memorizing the volume measurements. They're the sort of thing that comes with use in cooking (if even needed then). I do want them to learn distance (inches to feet to yards only, not miles), time (seconds to minutes to hours to days), and weight (ounces to pounds only).
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