KSera Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, J-rap said: I'm so sorry! I know hospitals are postponing elective surgeries, but I haven't heard of places not allowing emergency surgeries. I hope things have improved for your sister since you last posted on here. “Elective” unfortunately doesn’t mean optional the way it sounds. It basically means planned, scheduled surgeries (rather than ones that arise as emergencies). I wish more discretion was used in choosing which can and can’t be postponed—it’s awful they postponed in this case. It sounds like the ban has been lifted now (though many nurses are protesting that and say it’s too soon). I hope today sees an improvement for your sister, Melissa, and that she will be stable enough to operate. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkTulip Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Sending positive healing thoughts and prayers to your sister and her medical team. May they make good decisions to help her and that she will be ok. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loowit Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I am sorry. I will be praying for your sister. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebcoola Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I'm so sorry praying for you. We went through a similar situation last year DH gallbladder was necrotizing and he wasn't as to get imaging or surgery for several days and was incredibly sick and it could have burst and killed him while waiting. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Praying. How awful and it totally bites that it sounds preventable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Praying now for your sister, Anne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, maize said: Doesn't surgery in a case like this at some point become emergent not elective? Yes, but you need the smart people to know when that line is crossed and be willing to stick their neck out to make that call. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mominco Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Sending positive thoughts and hugs Melissa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kareni Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Sending positive thoughts for your sister, Melissa, and for the whole family. Regards, Kareni 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, maize said: Doesn't surgery in a case like this at some point become emergent not elective? 1 hour ago, KSera said: “Elective” unfortunately doesn’t mean optional the way it sounds. It basically means planned, scheduled surgeries (rather than ones that arise as emergencies). I wish more discretion was used in choosing which can and can’t be postponed—it’s awful they postponed in this case. It sounds like the ban has been lifted now (though many nurses are protesting that and say it’s too soon). I hope today sees an improvement for your sister, Melissa, and that she will be stable enough to operate. 2 hours ago, J-rap said: I'm so sorry! I know hospitals are postponing elective surgeries, but I haven't heard of places not allowing emergency surgeries. I hope things have improved for your sister since you last posted on here. Gallbladders surgery isn't always straightforward. Cholecystectomy for biliary colic (intermittent pain that fully resolves) = elective Cholecystectomy for cholecystitis (progression to inflamed galllbladder that does not resolve) = urgent or emergent (depending on degree)surgery if indicated, but surgery is not always indicated. There are a lot of factors to consider, and the decision-making process is complicated, but in some cases operating on an inflamed+/- infected gallbladder can make the patient worse, not better - increased morbidity and mortality. Protocol in those cases is to treat with antibiotics and sometimes a percutaneous drain, then operate weeks later once the acute inflammation and infection have resolved. So with gallbladders, it can go from "elective" to "can't operate". And suspension of elective surgery because of hospital overwhelm means that more people will progress from the former to the later. It's a very unfortunate consequence of what amounts to informal pandemic triage. Melissa, I'm holding you and your sister in the light. 7 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbel Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I am so very sorry and am praying for your sister and the entire family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) I don’t have any updates. Haven’t heard anything since last night. the blanket ban on all surgery statewide except emergency (life or death like bad car crash) has affected a huge amount of people. It wasn’t because of hospitals becoming overwhelmed. There are surgical wards all over the state sitting completely idle. Surgeons all over have been going to the media saying there is the capacity but they are not allowed to operate. It s all to do with a power hungry tyrant that is the premier in this state. The hospital my sister was in doesn’t have a single Covid case. All Covid cases are shifted to a few designated hospitals in the state Edited February 4, 2022 by Melissa in Australia 2 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Oh Melissa, that’s just awful! It would have been at least a bit different if hospitals were full and there was no ability to do the surgeries, but knowing that the surgery could have happened is so disgusting and horrible! Your family must be so frustrated and angry in addition to being so worried about your sister. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamerGirl Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Oh wow, that is so terrible. I am outraged and sad on your behalf and especially on behalf of your sister. Sending you all the healing thoughts I can muster. ((hugs)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Tick Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 So sorry for all the pain your sister is in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said: I don’t have any updates. Haven’t heard anything since last night. the blanket ban on all surgery statewide except emergency (life or death like bad car crash) has affected a huge amount of people. It wasn’t because of hospitals becoming overwhelmed. There are surgical wards all over the state sitting completely idle. Surgeons all over have been going to the media saying there is the capacity but they are not allowed to operate. It s all to do with a power hungry tyrant that is the premier in this state. The hospital my sister was in doesn’t have a single Covid case. All Covid cases are shifted to a few designated hospitals in the state I think they announced yesterday they are restarting some surgeries here but I haven’t seen the details yet. I have someone close whose surgery has been delayed and while it’s not immediately life threatening, it could be long-term. Hopefully VIC will have a similar shift soon. I know someone who controlled gallbladder with diet for a long time before needing surgery but it sounds like it’s passed that stage. Hoping for some better news for you soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 An sort of update. She hasn’t been transported her to Melbourne. No transport ambulance available. 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said: I think they announced yesterday they are restarting some surgeries here but I haven’t seen the details yet. I have someone close whose surgery has been delayed and while it’s not immediately life threatening, it could be long-term. Hopefully VIC will have a similar shift soon. I know someone who controlled gallbladder with diet for a long time before needing surgery but it sounds like it’s passed that stage. Hoping for some better news for you soon. I had read that Victoria was lifting it as of “Monday” but wasn’t clear if that was last Monday or next Monday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said: An sort of update. She hasn’t been transported her to Melbourne. No transport ambulance available. Oh no! It is one terrible update after another. 😞 Is there anyone in the family who can arrange for a private ambulance to take her to the other hospital, or is there any kind of medical helicopter service available to get her to an even-better hospital? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMD Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, KSera said: I had read that Victoria was lifting it as of “Monday” but wasn’t clear if that was last Monday or next Monday. Next Monday. They're just lifting the ban, only allowing up to 50% of capacity. https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/elective-surgery-ban-lifted-as-1-4-billion-invested-into-healthcare-system-20220204-p59tr7.html So sorry Melissa, things are a sh*t show here at the moment. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie G Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I’m so sorry she’s going through this! Sending positive vibes for your family. How awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Praying here, Melissa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishes Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Thinking of you and your sister. May smarter heads prevail and she receives the help she needs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishes Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) Dp Edited February 5, 2022 by Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 She is currently In Transit to Melbourne.. I have no medical status update at all 31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Glad she is in transit. I hope she will get good treatment in Melbourne. I keep checking for updates. 🙏 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, KSera said: Glad she is in transit. I hope she will get good treatment in Melbourne. I keep checking for updates. 🙏 I hope so, too! I keep checking for updates, too. It’s such a scary situation. 😞 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauraw4321 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 May the great physician heal and guard her. May Christ continue to have mercy on her. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMD Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Melissa in Australia said: She is currently In Transit to Melbourne.. I have no medical status update at all I'm glad to hear that she's in transit. 🙏 Do you know which hospital they're taking her to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Update she only made it 40 km then her heart rate started plummeting so they rushed her to the closest hospital. It is 250 km from Melbourne. She was 300 km from Melbourne at the other hospital, bigger than the hospital she was at. She is in resus. She is no longer able to communicate with my mum, but was able to tell the doctor to ring my mum. I think my mum might be her emergency contact. The have stabilised her a bit, her heart is going too slow. I don’t know all the medical terms, but she isn’t getting enough oxygen through the tube in her nose, so they might run one down. They are going to do a lot of tests to try work out what exactly is going on. Mum said she doesn’t expect to hear anything for a few hours. 32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Thank you everyone so much for all your positive thoughts and prayers. It has to help every time I speak to mum, she just keeps saying over and over it will be alright…like she is trying to comfort herself. 4 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, LMD said: I'm glad to hear that she's in transit. 🙏 Do you know which hospital they're taking her to? They were going to take her to Monash, but she only made it to Sale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spryte Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Oh, I’m so sorry. Sending positive , warm thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 I am continuing in prayer. (((Melissa))) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyoffive Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Thanks for the updates. I have been thinking of her all day. Sending lots more prayers her way. Your poor mom. I am sending lots of hugs to her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klmama Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Still praying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin M Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Praying.. Hugs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 another update. that hospital has decided that they cannot do the tests she needs and they have stabilized her a bit . they have just called for an ambulance and are sending her to Melbourne. 18 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 I'm sorry she's not doing well but glad they can get her to an appropriate hospital! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said: another update. that hospital has decided that they cannot do the tests she needs and they have stabilized her a bit . they have just called for an ambulance and are sending her to Melbourne. Is helicopter transport not used for urgent cases there? I hope the rest of the trip to Melbourne goes smoothly. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkTulip Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Praying they can get her to Melbourne quickly and safely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bean Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Adding my prayers for your sister and your family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMD Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Goodness how frightening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 53 minutes ago, KSera said: Is helicopter transport not used for urgent cases there? I hope the rest of the trip to Melbourne goes smoothly. Yes. My nephew was air-lifted to Children's Hospital in Houston at birth. (He was born about 2 hours away in College Station) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, KSera said: Is helicopter transport not used for urgent cases there? I hope the rest of the trip to Melbourne goes smoothly. There is helicopter transport for super urgent like car crash etc. planes are also used for not so urgent. I don’t know why they are using road. I don’t know how they work out what to use 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Praying that she will get all of the best medical care and that she recovers completely and quickly. Hugs to you, Melissa. What a terrible situation. 😞 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 My sister just arrived at Monash hospital in Melbourne 45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Melissa in Australia said: My sister just arrived at Monash hospital in Melbourne I’m glad she made it. Hoping she gets the best possible medical care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innisfree Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Holding her, and your whole family, in my thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, KSera said: Is helicopter transport not used for urgent cases there? I hope the rest of the trip to Melbourne goes smoothly. Yes heli and RFDS is here but might depend on the patients situation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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