EJCMom Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 How do you pronounce the word "primer", as in a school book? My cousin, who also homeschools, insists it is pronounced one way, and I think it is pronounced a different way. Do you pronounce it with a long /i/ or a short /i/? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaT Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Definitely long /i/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJCMom Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 I forgot to ask if you would mind explaining why you voted the way you did. I always thought it was a long /i/ because the way I understand the phonics rule it would need to have 2 Ms in order for it to be a short /i/. If you voted short /i/ would you mind explaining why it's short and not long? I'm wondering if there's some phonics rule that I'm missing. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 It should be long i, but common pronunciation here in the U.S. is short i, which makes no sense either phonetically or if you look at the root. The Brits commonly pronounce it long i according to Webster's online dictionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 In the US people generally say it with a short i, in the UK people generally use long i. eta: That's the way it is said, it makes no sense to me whatsoever. Phonetically it should have a long i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo2 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have NEVER heard it with a short i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristinaBreece Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 In the US people generally say it with a short i, in the UK people generally use long i. eta: That's the way it is said, it makes no sense to me whatsoever. Phonetically it should have a long i. I've never heard it pronounced with a short i. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Add me to the list of people who have never heard it with a short i! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissel Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Merriam-Webster says: http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=primer01&word=primer&text=\%3Cspan%20class%3D%22unicode%22%3E%CB%88%3C%2Fspan%3Epri-m%C9%99r%2C%20%3Cem%3Echiefly%20British%3C%2Fem%3E%20%3Cspan%20class%3D%22unicode%22%3E%CB%88%3C%2Fspan%3Epr%C4%AB-m%C9%99r\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 According to Webster, primer with a short i is a small prayer or text- book, while primer with a long i is a material used for priming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Add me to the list of people who have never heard it with a short i! Me three! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolly Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short i if used as a reader. Long i if used as a base coat of paint.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I've never heard it pronounced with a short i. :confused: Really? Did you ever watch Little House on the Prairie? I'm sure they used a short i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Since I started homeschooling I have only heard it pronounced with a short i. I rebel against that, though. It only makes sense to use a long i. First of all, it comes from the Latin word prīmārium (long i). Secondly, it basically has the same basic meaning as paint primer, as in--what comes first, before you do what's next. So I prefer to say it with the long i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJCMom Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 According to Webster, primer with a short i is a small prayer or text- book, while primer with a long i is a material used for priming. But then why is it not spelled: primmer? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn in OH Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Long i. When the vowel is at the end of a syllable it is long. In order for it to be pronounced with the short i sound it would be spelled primmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWhite Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm American, and I learned to pronounce the word as a child from American teachers. Therefore, I say it with a short i, even though I have considered it an exception to the rules of phonics ever since I learned it. I have such respect for the people who taught me to pronounce it that I have always cringed when I heard it pronounced with a long i--- as one would to hear someone pronounce vineyard with a long i. It felt as if the person I was hearing had read the word without experiencing its meaning or having it introduced by a professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 But then why is it not spelled: primmer? :confused: Because of some stupid American decided to misspell or mispronounce it. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short i. Long I is something that you put on the walls before you paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 According to Webster, primer with a short i is a small prayer or text- book, while primer with a long i is a material used for priming. This is how I've always used the word. Two different pronunciations mean two different things. ETA: My OED says the same thing: short i for textbook; long i for stuff you use to prepare items for painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 But then why is it not spelled: primmer? :confused: Because pronunciation does not always follow the rules of phonics. That's why some spelling curricula teach kids to "think to spell." And it's why English can be so hard to learn. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuff Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I've always thought it was long I. Didn't hear it short until using MUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb_ Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Funny how we're running at 0% for "not sure". Big surprise.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classical Country Mama Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 This is how I've always used the word. Two different pronunciations mean two different things. ETA: My OED says the same thing: short i for textbook; long i for stuff you use to prepare items for painting. Yes, this exactly. Disclaimer # 1: I did not grow up in the U.S., so possibly pronounce a lot of words in my own special way. Disclaimer # 2: Even if I pronounced it prymer instead of primmer, I would immediately begin pronouncing it primmer now, because I have never dared argue with the OED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short i if used as a reader. Long i if used as a base coat of paint.:D Yep! In school books, it's a short i, but in paint, it's a long i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Disclaimer # 2: Even if I pronounced it prymer instead of primmer, I would immediately begin pronouncing it primmer now, because I have never dared argue with the OED. :smilielol5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Mom Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 According to Webster, primer with a short i is a small prayer or text- book, while primer with a long i is a material used for priming. :iagree:That's how we say both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 According to Webster, primer with a short i is a small prayer or text- book, while primer with a long i is a material used for priming. Short i if used as a reader. Long i if used as a base coat of paint.:D :iagree: I read a primer during school, while my dh puts primer on the walls. But then why is it not spelled: primmer? :confused: Because it's English. :glare: My ds has decided we should all speak Latin, it's easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDmom Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I always thought it was a long i, but then I was told that it should be a short i, so I changed the way I say it. It still feels wrong, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wapiti Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I say it with a long i (American), but it's rare that I hear the word pronounced. Once in the past year I heard it pronounced with a short i on TV and it took me several minutes to get my head around that. I assumed the guy was wrong :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangermom Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Primer with a short i is the book. Primer with the long i is the paint. Simple!:tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I've always thought it was long I. Didn't hear it short until using MUS. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyB Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short i is the only way I've ever heard it (the text). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamom Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short i. Long I is something that you put on the walls before you paint. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIS0320 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I say primer with a short "i" in regards to books/text. I say the long "i" when talking about paint? That is really weird when I think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I say primer with a short "i" in regards to books/text. I say the long "i" when talking about paint? That is really weird when I think about it. It is kind of weird, but not any weirder than when we say in'valid for an incapacitated person or inval'id for not valid; read with a long e for present tense and read with a short e for past tense; etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootsnwings Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 In Alabama it's pronounced with a super-long /i/ ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 In Alabama it's pronounced with a super-long /i/ ;) Are you sure that's not a short a?;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have NEVER heard it with a short i. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short i if used as a reader. Long i if used as a base coat of paint.:D :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 According to Webster, primer with a short i is a small prayer or text- book, while primer with a long i is a material used for priming. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm with the crowd that feels the pronunciation for paint under-coatings is different than that of the first-readers. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short i for a book. Long i if painting something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber in AUS Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I say long but I'm an Aussie :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasharowan Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I've heard it pronounced both ways and have no clue which is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary in VA Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short i. Long I is something that you put on the walls before you paint. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Definitely long /i/. That's what you do before painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLG Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short 'i' = book Long 'i' = first coat of paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Short 'i' = bookLong 'i' = first coat of paint :iagree: I forgot about paint! But, I still think primer the book should be pronounced long i, although I do say it "correctly." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaissezFaire Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Well that depends. if you are talking about paint it is a long /i/ if you are talking about a book it is a short /i/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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