Amethyst Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 ...is being the parent of adult children. At least it feels like it some days. That is all. 37 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildflowerMom Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I 100% agree. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkie Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I totally agree with you. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catz Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Absolutely. 🤪 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Agree. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottakee Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yep. I have 4 young adults with special needs. the consequences are so much bigger 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassia Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Another agreement. So challenging and frustrating at times. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt. Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 The hardest stage of parenting is always the one you are actually in. But I totally hear you all about young adults. As the parent of older teens, I believe you, but it's terrifying. You mean it gets even worse? 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Frog Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 It's hard because the rules (very loose definition) you made as a parent all changed and sometimes it's hard to know how they've changed and what the new expectation is. And frequently, the young adult doesn't know, either, but chafes at the old expectations. It sometimes requires a lot of humble communicating. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 My instinct is also the one you are in, but then again some phases are easier than others for individuals. I’ve always found newborns really easy. Preschool boys are really hard for me. So are tween girls. The few now young adults we fostered weren’t with us long enough for me to feel really responsible for them so I don’t know about that yet. I’ve noticed most other parents have a really difficult time between 19-24. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestavern Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Totally agree. I thought at this stage it would be smooth sailing, time to have fun and enjoy freedom from the responsibility of parenthood. And not only are the “adult” kids hard but it’s also when our senior parents start requiring our time and attention as well. Between my 19 yo and my mother with dementia I am more stressed than I’ve ever been. 😞 3 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Hopper Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Littles are harder physically. Bigs are harder mentally. Can’t just clock out when they turn 18. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambam Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Absolutely. It seemed hard in the beginning, but I had no idea. But the good times/connections are amazing when/if they happen. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yay... 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkTulip Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yep. My kids are 19-24 and it’s tough watching them make decisions that I totally disagree with. I keep telling myself, “they’ll figure it out,” and that “the most important thing is to preserve and strengthen the relationship,” but man, I miss those days when I had more say in their life! 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendyLady Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 It’s hard in such an unexpected way. I don’t feel like I have good memories of my parents parenting my siblings and I as young adults. We were sort of dropped off at college and forgotten - my parents were very hands off and almost uninterested in us. I rarely talked to my mom after I left home unless I was visiting her at her home, and I didn’t live near her. Maybe it’s partly our young adults staying kids longer? Maybe it’s having a vested interest in their success as we are helping a little with college? Maybe it’s because I genuinely like my kids and want them to have all the happiness? My mom lives near the college our kids have gone to and when I have visited to spend time with my college kids, she will say, “you do sooooo much for your kids!” I’m pretty sure she doesn’t mean it as a compliment.(And I feel guilty that we do so little compared to many parents.) 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, bolt. said: The hardest stage of parenting is always the one you are actually in. But I totally hear you all about young adults. As the parent of older teens, I believe you, but it's terrifying. You mean it gets even worse? Its easier to deal with my teens than for my relatives to deal with “problematic” children’s spouses. I am holding some money from my parents for my niece for a reason. I think it is so hard to not say anything and hope for the best when a child/sibling marry someone “problematic” (in this case money grabbing). Edited July 6, 2022 by Arcadia typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, bolt. said: The hardest stage of parenting is always the one you are actually in. I've heard this before. Maybe it's true. Sigh. I wonder if my parents think having children who are in their 60's is the worst. I don't know. I'm not going to rule it out. Thanks for the support, everyone. 39 minutes ago, Tree Frog said: It's hard because the rules (very loose definition) you made as a parent all changed and sometimes it's hard to know how they've changed and what the new expectation is. And frequently, the young adult doesn't know, either, but chafes at the old expectations. It sometimes requires a lot of humble communicating. Lots of chafing, yes. 35 minutes ago, whitestavern said: Totally agree. I thought at this stage it would be smooth sailing, time to have fun and enjoy freedom from the responsibility of parenthood. Time for me and dh to just enjoy the freedom, right? Sigh. Not only are the young adults challenging, but I don't remember dh and I discussing what it would be like to be the parents of adults. Spanking or no spanking? Family bed? homeschool or public school? Public school or private school? Montessori or Waldorf? Sure. Talked about all that good stuff. I can't wait to teach them how to (swim/read/dance/play tennis/ride a bike) won't it be delightful? Yup. We covered that. But the letting go, the financial should we/shouldn't we/how much? Do we butt in or it's none of our business? Let them fail, or catch them? We didn't discuss this way back when. The kids are enough, I don't need conflict with dh too. Sigh. Some days. Sigh. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 53 minutes ago, Ottakee said: Yep. I have 4 young adults with special needs. the consequences are so much bigger I wish we still have the group hug emoji. I have seen how hard it was for my aunt and her spouse to take care of their only child with Down syndrome 😞 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyoffive Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yeah, I am feeling this. No adults yet, but man this worries me for the future. Does it get better at a certain age? When they get married, get a job, reach full adulthood? Give me something positive to focus on it. My big kids can be lots of help, but I much prefer little kids even though those days are physically exhausting. I am mentally and emotionally exhausted with tweens and teens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassia Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, PinkTulip said: Yep. My kids are 19-24 and it’s tough watching them make decisions that I totally disagree with. I keep telling myself, “they’ll figure it out,” and that “the most important thing is to preserve and strengthen the relationship,” but man, I miss those days when I had more say in their life! That's exactly it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassia Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, mommyoffive said: Yeah, I am feeling this. No adults yet, but man this worries me for the future. Does it get better at a certain age? When they get married, get a job, reach full adulthood? Give me something positive to focus on it. Oh, there's lots of good stuff! It's such a wonderful feeling to see them independent and thriving. ❤️ And the adult relationship can be a lot of fun too. I find it very rewarding most of the time. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livetoread Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Very true here. I haven't seconded guessed myself more in any other stage. The stakes are so much higher too. They really can make their own lives so much more difficult for years to come with one bad choice. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, mommyoffive said: Yeah, I am feeling this. No adults yet, but man this worries me for the future. Does it get better at a certain age? When they get married, get a job, reach full adulthood? Give me something positive to focus on it. My big kids can be lots of help, but I much prefer little kids even though those days are physically exhausting. I am mentally and emotionally exhausted with tweens and teens. Well, it helps when they have a career path which they are satisfied with. When they are out of college and regret their choice (or blame you for their bad decision), it is no so fun. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 hour ago, bolt. said: The hardest stage of parenting is always the one you are actually in. But I totally hear you all about young adults. As the parent of older teens, I believe you, but it's terrifying. You mean it gets even worse? My kids span the range of little to adult, so I'm in all stages and it's definitely the older teens and young adults who are the hardest here. We tend to have difficult babies (who become relatively easy kids), but even that hard baby stage paled compared to the older teens I was parenting at the same time as the baby. I'd definitely be way less stressed with a couple more toddlers in the house than dealing with the grown kid problems. I didn't expect this, because things still seemed pretty good when they were young teens and I thought we were somehow going to avoid any of the kind of stuff we're dealing with. 1 minute ago, mommyoffive said: Does it get better at a certain age? When they get married, get a job, reach full adulthood? Give me something positive to focus on it. I know my parents are very happy at this stage of their parenting with kids all grown with their own families. We're all functional and independent. I think whether it gets better depends on whether all your kids end up functional, independent, and relatively happy. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottakee Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Arcadia said: I wish we still have the group hug emoji. I have seen how hard it was for my aunt and her spouse to take care of their only child with Down syndrome 😞 My kids are higher functioning than many other individuals with Down Syndrome , but not all. My kids have friends with DS that work at a day care, write articles for the local newspaper, hold down jobs and live in their own. i think it is just harder as I am alone and there are 4 of them with various needs. Often the paperwork for them for DHHS, SSI, SSDI, CMH and MRS is what gets to me Edited July 6, 2022 by Ottakee 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yes! Right now my 20 and 22 year old (and 22 yo’s fiancé) are living with us. Dh and I went out for drinks a bit ago and he mentioned we sure do seem to be going out for drinks more often these days. Yes, yes we are, dear. 😬 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Mom in NC Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Mmmm hhhhmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth86 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Oh I can't imagine! It must be, but I'm 8 weeks pregnant right now, and no one can convince me this isnt the hardest stage. 😭 I suck at pregnancy. I just want my baby (my favorite stage) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, bolt. said: The hardest stage of parenting is always the one you are actually in. But I totally hear you all about young adults. As the parent of older teens, I believe you, but it's terrifying. You mean it gets even worse? I disagree. I've truly loved many (most) stages of parenting, and not just in hindsight. I have actually found that the hardest stage has been very specific to each kid. The hardest with my youngest was 15, but her hardest was easier than 90% of my eldest's years. And for all of them, young adult parenting has completely sucked. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I haven't gotten all of mine to adulthood yet, but I vote for the potty training stage as being the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spryte Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Tree Frog said: It's hard because the rules (very loose definition) you made as a parent all changed and sometimes it's hard to know how they've changed and what the new expectation is. And frequently, the young adult doesn't know, either, but chafes at the old expectations. It sometimes requires a lot of humble communicating. This, exactly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, Junie said: I haven't gotten all of mine to adulthood yet, but I vote for the potty training stage as being the worst. Really?! Oh my goodness, if only parenting my young adults was as easy as potty training them was. Even the worst day potty training I can't imagine carrying the kind of stress and repercussions of parenting young adults going through hard times. Worst that happens, you have poop on your floor 🤷♀️. Sign me up. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, KSera said: Really?! Oh my goodness, if only parenting my young adults was as easy as potty training them was. Even the worst day potty training I can't imagine carrying the kind of stress and repercussions of parenting young adults going through hard times. Worst that happens, you have poop on your floor 🤷♀️. Sign me up. Well, so far this is my experience. Sure, there have been some hiccups, but potty training was truly miserable here. I think part of it is that my kids are spaced closely together, so it seemed that potty training was never ending for a decade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Junie said: I think part of it is that my kids are spaced closely together, so it seemed that potty training was never ending for a decade. Whereas parenting young adults is going to be continuous for a minimum of two decades for me 😂 😭. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Honestly, I also think the potty training stage was the worst. They used to rip off their diapers and smear poop and laugh about it. OMG. I completely lost it a few times. And they still weren't sleeping through the night even though they were like 3. I'm telling you... if it somehow gets HARDER than that, I don't even know. I'm too old for this stuff. I'm two hot seconds away from two adults. Hopefully I won't have to reassess in a couple of years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, Junie said: I haven't gotten all of mine to adulthood yet, but I vote for the potty training stage as being the worst. Nope. Been there. It was awful. I had one that was almost FIVE before he was potty trained. Ugh. Awful. Still voting for young adulthood. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freesia Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I rocked potty training! I am finding the young adult stage harder for sure. When it’s good, it’s really good—they aren’t as moody, they talk and listen. But the ramifications of decisions and deciding how much to support and when to keep your mouth closed are all just hard. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forget-Me-Not Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Elizabeth86 said: Oh I can't imagine! It must be, but I'm 8 weeks pregnant right now, and no one can convince me this isnt the hardest stage. 😭 I suck at pregnancy. I just want my baby (my favorite stage) Congratulations!! I agree that each stage presents its own challenges, but I have to agree that late teen/young adulthood has been hard for me in a whole new way. I can’t always fix their problems with the standard food/shower/nap thing anymore. Though when my college age son called freaking out about a class last night, I did ask if he’d had dinner and encouraged him to just go to bed because he couldn’t do any more at that point and everything looks better on the other side of a good night’s rest. So maybe I am still using it somewhat LOL. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I thought about this more and would definitely not swap young adult parenting for sleepless nights with infants, so I guess lack of sleep was worse. I think this stage just requires a whole new skill set. And you're doing it without the benefit of constant oxytocin rushes. You have to learn a sort of loving detachment from your adult kids. It takes practise (well, it did for me). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Forget-Me-Not said: Congratulations!! I agree that each stage presents its own challenges, but I have to agree that late teen/young adulthood has been hard for me in a whole new way. I can’t always fix their problems with the standard food/shower/nap thing anymore. Though when my college age son called freaking out about a class last night, I did ask if he’d had dinner and encouraged him to just go to bed because he couldn’t do any more at that point and everything looks better on the other side of a good night’s rest. So maybe I am still using it somewhat LOL. I've found myself doing this with DH. It usually does help! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said: I thought about this more and would definitely not swap young adult parenting for sleepless nights with infants, so I guess lack of sleep was worse. I think this stage just requires a whole new skill set. And you're doing it without the benefit of constant oxytocin rushes. You have to learn a sort of loving detachment from your adult kids. It takes practise (well, it did for me). Oh, yes! This is why potty training was so hard here -- because I usually also had an infant at the times I had a toddler who was in the potty-training stage. So it was a double whammy, especially since most of my babies were not good sleepers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porridge Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Nooooo!!! Tell me it gets easier, please!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
***** Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 hours ago, KSera said: My kids span the range of little to adult, so I'm in all stages and it's definitely the older teens and young adults who are the hardest here. That was my family. Back in the late 60's, my mom was in the hospital delivering her last baby (large family here). My oldest sister announced she was madly in love and was going to marry John before he went off to the army. Mom just said, "I have 3 days in the hospital, let me have my 3 days and then we will deal with this." (Back then 3 days were customary in the hospital when delivering a baby.) Now that I think of it, I bet my mom savored every minute of her time there. (Nope, there was no talking my sister out of it, and years later, it did end in divorce. Sister recently told me she wished my parents would have tried harder to talk her out of it...(grrr!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMD Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Melissa Louise said: I thought about this more and would definitely not swap young adult parenting for sleepless nights with infants, so I guess lack of sleep was worse. I think this stage just requires a whole new skill set. And you're doing it without the benefit of constant oxytocin rushes. You have to learn a sort of loving detachment from your adult kids. It takes practise (well, it did for me). I'll get to try both at once in a few months (young adult + new infant). Pray for me y'all At present - ya/teenage girls are the hardest. At least mine. It's not even close. 🤐 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, LMD said: I'll get to try both at once in a few months (young adult + new infant). Pray for me y'all At present - ya/teenage girls are the hardest. At least mine. It's not even close. 🤐 New infant?! Congrats!! I will light all the candles for you 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMD Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said: New infant?! Congrats!! I will light all the candles for you 🙂 Thank you! Yes, gigantic surprise 😄 new baby boy due in Nov. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann.without.an.e Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I’ve said for a while… younger kids are more tiring physically and teens/young adults are more tiring emotionally/mentally. I’d take physical exhaustion over emotional/mental exhaustion any day 😜. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth86 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Forget-Me-Not said: Congratulations!! I agree that each stage presents its own challenges, but I have to agree that late teen/young adulthood has been hard for me in a whole new way. I can’t always fix their problems with the standard food/shower/nap thing anymore. Though when my college age son called freaking out about a class last night, I did ask if he’d had dinner and encouraged him to just go to bed because he couldn’t do any more at that point and everything looks better on the other side of a good night’s rest. So maybe I am still using it somewhat LOL. Thank you! We are so excited. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 10 hours ago, mommyoffive said: Yeah, I am feeling this. No adults yet, but man this worries me for the future. Does it get better at a certain age? When they get married, get a job, reach full adulthood? Give me something positive to focus on it. I’m sure it is situation-dependent, but I feel good about the place my dd (25 yo, married and employed) is in. I’m happy about who she married and I’m satisfied with her other life choices. My second child (m, 22yo, just graduated from college), I will worry less when he secures a “real” job. And probably still less when/if he gets married to his gf. My youngest (m, 17yo, one more year of high school) still gives me plenty to worry about. 😏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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