KrissiK Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 OK, I have had it. I make terrible cookies and I'm wondering if it's the fat I'm using. So, if you make good cookies, please let me know what you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i.love.lucy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 :bigear: I use butter for my Tollhouse cookies, but recently I used butter flavor Crisco for some dairy free Snickerdoodles I made and everyone raved that they were the best, chewiest, most wonderful cookies EVER. :confused: Should I use Crisco from now on? Even in my Tollhouse ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I won't brag about most of my cooking (I'm okay, but nothing special) but my cookies rock. Shortening is, indeed, a way I've seen that you can make your cookies be more chewy. But there are better ways. I mean, shortening is to be avoided, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I love to bake. I bake a lot. If you could see my love handles, you would have no trouble believing me. :D I only use butter, real butter. YUMMY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Real butter, always. Everyone raves about my chocolate chip cookies. I'm not tryin' to brag; but seriously, EVERYONE says how good they are. :D I just use the tollhouse recipe, honest. Nothing special. But you have to use real butter. Not margarine, and certainly not shortening. (And don't overbake them. That's the other thing that will ruin a cookie every time.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alte Veste Academy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I make super duper cookies, if I do say so myself. :D I use only butter. Shortening...is it even real food? :leaving: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alte Veste Academy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 (And don't overbake them. That's the other thing that will ruin a cookie every time.) :iagree: They need to still be soft when you take them out of the oven! They should be turning golden but they should still be somewhat soft. They will need to cool a couple of minutes before being removed to a rack. If they are firm when coming out of the oven, you've let them go too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 (And don't overbake them. That's the other thing that will ruin a cookie every time.) YES!!! They must still be mushy when you take them out of the oven!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Half butter and half lard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvnlattes Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 My absolute favorite chocolate chip cookie recipe uses equal amounts of butter and shortening. I have a hard time using shortening, it just seems wrong to me, so I only use it when I make these cookies. For all other cookie recipes I use butter only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest submarines Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Olive oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyBC Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Shortening...is it even real food? :leaving: Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsabelC Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I think most shop bought shortening contains hydrolyzed vegetable oil which turns into trans fats when heated. Many products also include genetically modified soy and/or corn. The only oils/fats we use are butter, olive oil, sunflower oil and very occasionally organic beef dripping. I only use butter for cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Mom4 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Real Butter All The Way. Except.... when I make something that needs to be dairy-free. Then I use high quality EVOO (extra-virgin olive oil) - the good kind that even has a nice taste when you taste it before cooking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCrazyMama Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Real butter, always. Everyone raves about my chocolate chip cookies. I'm not tryin' to brag; but seriously, EVERYONE says how good they are. :D I just use the tollhouse recipe, honest. Nothing special. But you have to use real butter. Not margarine, and certainly not shortening. (And don't overbake them. That's the other thing that will ruin a cookie every time.) :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda in FL Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 So far I'm the sole shortening (butter flavored crisco) user. I really only use it for Tollhouse cookies. My mom always made the best cookies and she started when shortening was on the official recipe. I have continued and they are always delicious. I will also add that you need to take the cookies off the cookie sheet as soon as possible - don't let them cool on the cookie sheet or they will be too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DianeW88 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I. Will. Not. bake with anything but butter. Shortening is nasty and makes cookies tasteless, IMHO. I can always tell when someone uses shortening instead of butter in their baking. :ack2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trabug Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I would love to use butter, yummmmm, but family allergies overrule. I use cold pressed extra virgin coconut oil, which is delicious, all natural and healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Lard and butter. Lard has less hydrogenated fat (aka trans fat) than shortening, and is much, much cheaper. It's also awesome in pie crust and biscuits. I used coconut oil when I was a vegetarian, and that was a good substitute for butter or shortening. But it costs even more than butter. No way would I bake with shortening. I try to avoid it in storebought stuff, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippen Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Depends on the cookie. Often it's all butter. Snickerdoodles and gingersnaps get all shortening. Choco chip are half and half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Unless it is my Grandma's puffy sugar cookie recipe, which is all shortening, I use half butter half shortening. I have found that with all butter my cookies are flatter and too greasy. Shortening helps them hold their shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catz Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I think shortening is "gross" too and tastes processed. But whole foods sells a shortening that is all vegetable and totally non-hydrogenated (no trans-fat). And I am happy with that product. I do have "butter" cookies and other cookies made with this shortening, and yet others that are a blend. Depends on the recipe. People ask me for cookie recipes on a regular basis and I always recommend this shortening. It is "softer" than other shortening, but it's a good compromise. Refrigerating dough before baking and not over baking are important cookie quality things too. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDmom Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 My favorite recipes for chocolate chip and snickerdoodles use half butter, half shortening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen in PA Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I use butter unless I need them to be dairy-free. Then I use coconut oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Huh. Who woulda thunk people'd get high horsey about cookie ingredients? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I chose other because it depends on the type of cookie. Snickerdoodles do really well with half vegetable shortening/half margerine. Peanut butter cookie I use all shortening. Oatmeal raisin, half shortening half butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunD Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Half butter and half lard. :iagree: Yep, that's my usual cookie strategy, especially with something like chocolate chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I use butter for two reasons: The flavor it imparts to baked goods is truly magnificent. Shortening is so very, very, very unhealthy I avoid using it at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa in the UP of MI Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I use only butter for my cookies expect for one recipe. I'll even substitute if the recipe calls for something else. But my mom's cut-out cookies are the best ever and they call for all butter-flavored shortening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I use earth balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Marmalade Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I voted for the combination. I tend to use all butter for most cookies, but when I decide I want jumbo cookies, then I use half butter/half shortening, because it gives the cookies the best spread and they cook evenly. If I use all butter in jumbo cookies, the edges get too dark or thin. I've been in a jumbo cookie mood as of late, so right now most cookies from my kitchen are a combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaners Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I follow different recipes for everything. Generally cookies use butter. My exception is cut-outs. I use margarine in those. I find them bland until they have been frosted, but they are very pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritaserum Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 YES!!! They must still be mushy when you take them out of the oven!! :iagree: All butter, take them out on the early side. I use a sugar cookie recipe that calls for butter and sour cream. They are fluffy and chewy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Only butter. Shortening leaves a greasy film at the top of your mouth when you use it, and it doesn't carry flavor. Alton Brown's chocolate chip cookie recipe is *the best* it's called The Chewy. over 900 reviews and 5 stars, it's THAT good. Don't substitute ingredients-like he has bread flour as the flour-it won't come out right if you use regular flour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetMissMagnolia Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I usually do butter---I don't make cookies with shortening..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 OK, I have had it. I make terrible cookies and I'm wondering if it's the fat I'm using. So, if you make good cookies, please let me know what you use. I used to use all butter, but my cookies were always flat and spread-out. Because shortening melts at a higher temperature, the cookies have time to rise and set. I use Spectrum shortening, though, because Crisco is hydrogenated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momof3littles Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 A friend tipped me off years ago to using a combo of shortening and butter. We buy the Spectrum organic shortening (not hydrogenated like Crisco) and combine that with butter. It makes cookies just the way I like them. A little chewy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 I used to use all butter, but my cookies were always flat and spread-out. Because shortening melts at a higher temperature, the cookies have time to rise and set. I use Spectrum shortening, though, because Crisco is hydrogenated. That's my problem. They flatten and spread out. THe edges are crispy. All of my cookies are a disgrace and I find that odd since I can bake excellent bread, people love my pies, but my cookies are just horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Well, I know it's sacrilege on this board, but I use margarine. Shortening (Crisco) has a certain flavor, and I don't want that in my cookies. I will sometimes use real butter, but prefer margarine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourFidgetyFriend Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I use butter. It has a certain taste that I need to feel like I'm getting a really good cookie. For those who are getting flat cookies, your dough is not cold enough. It either needs to be chilled in the bowl or (my preference) chilled in the freezer while already on the cookie sheet for about 5 minutes. Also, if you are making more than one sheet, the cookie sheet needs to either be cooled or you need to use another sheet for the next batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Here are some tips that might help: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/dining/17bake.html?pagewanted=all As an extra precaution I always refrigerate my dough before baking it. It really helps to avoid the problem of flat greasy cookies. H'mm - so letting the butter soften at room temperature may be making it too warm to use successfully? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Mom4 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 H'mm - so letting the butter soften at room temperature may be making it too warm to use successfully? I let the butter soften at room temperature to make it easy to mix with. However, I then chill the dough in the fridge for several hours, or in the freezer for 10 minutes on the cookie sheet before it goes in the oven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewellsmommy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Coconut oil and butter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewellsmommy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Only butter. Shortening leaves a greasy film at the top of your mouth when you use it, and it doesn't carry flavor. Alton Brown's chocolate chip cookie recipe is *the best* it's called The Chewy. over 900 reviews and 5 stars, it's THAT good. Don't substitute ingredients-like he has bread flour as the flour-it won't come out right if you use regular flour. Yep, that is my choc chip cookie recipe too! It makes the best choc chip cookies ever. I believe it's the bread flour that makes the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewellsmommy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Is it my imagination or is coconut oil particularly fantastic in baked goods? I've only fairly recently gotten into using it, but I swear it is even better than butter (in terms of performance and just as good in taste). It is. It makes awesome bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourFidgetyFriend Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Only butter. Shortening leaves a greasy film at the top of your mouth when you use it, and it doesn't carry flavor. Alton Brown's chocolate chip cookie recipe is *the best* it's called The Chewy. over 900 reviews and 5 stars, it's THAT good. Don't substitute ingredients-like he has bread flour as the flour-it won't come out right if you use regular flour. I'm going to have to try this. I love when recipes have you weigh ingredients. The recipe always comes out as intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Here are some tips that might help: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/dining/17bake.html?pagewanted=all As an extra precaution I always refrigerate my dough before baking it. It really helps to avoid the problem of flat greasy cookies. Helpful article! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 It also sounds like you need to add a bit more flour. Most recipes do not have quite enough flour for a nice, plump cookie. Cook at 25 to 50 degrees less than recommended and cook on parchment paper, that should also help. Cook until just a hint of light brown appears. Depending on your oven, you may have to rotate the cookies about 2/3 of the way through cooking time. Some ovens cook evenly and rotating is not needed. And yes, butter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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