cindergretta Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/04/teacher-punches-student_n_871112.html?ref=fb&src=sp (video) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393978/Shocking-video-captures-moment-teacher-64-punched-student-face-cleared-child-abuse-charges.html (article with a little more detail) Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMOm Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) I definitely don't think punching students is okay BUT I've been that teacher who was cornered against a wall by a student who was much bigger than I was- and I can honestly say I don't blame her very much. It was then that he launched a verbal assault on her and called her a f***ing c*** and then walked towards her. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393978/Shocking-video-captures-moment-teacher-64-punched-student-face-cleared-child-abuse-charges.html#ixzz1OYaTzRhj students who witnessed the incident said the teen made contact first and the teacher was responding to that. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393978/Shocking-video-captures-moment-teacher-64-punched-student-face-cleared-child-abuse-charges.html#ixzz1OYamQKkK She has a clean disciplinary record and was voted by students for the school's Teacher of the Year award last school year. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393978/Shocking-video-captures-moment-teacher-64-punched-student-face-cleared-child-abuse-charges.html#ixzz1OYafRw00 Edited June 7, 2011 by FlyingMOm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraGB Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I had a teacher who was a nun crack my hands with a ruler in 6th grade for giving a smarty pants answer to a question and never even thought to tell my parents about it (too ashamed). I can't imagine having the b###s to approach a teacher with violent intentions and then lament about being hit. My, how times have changed. Not that I'm condoning any hitting of any sort, just thinking out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyR Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I don't blame her either. She deserved to defend herself. Plan and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Self defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristusG Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I don't usually condone a teacher hitting a student....but that guy was big, in her face, angry, and cursing. She didn't know what he would do next...grab her by the neck? Her fight or flight reaction was to defend herself and punch him. I can't blame her. He wasn't a small, defenseless elementary child. He was a big guy, probably very nearly an adult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsBasil Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A 16 year old male corners a 64 year old women at very close range while being verbally abusive? Not only self defense, but he had it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialmama Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A 16 year old male corners a 64 year old women at very close range while being verbally abusive? Not only self defense, but he had it coming. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindergretta Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 I felt scared for her. Just seeing the situation escalate made my heart thud. :( What are things coming to? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A 16 year old male corners a 64 year old women at very close range while being verbally abusive? Not only self defense, but he had it coming. :iagree: He was bigger than she was and students who were present are backing up her version of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dulcimeramy Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Before this incident she had 22 years experience and a perfect record of discipline in the classroom. Last year the students voted her Teacher of the Year. She's not an angry or abusive teacher. No way. I'm glad the charges were dropped. I've spent 20 minutes or so reading comments at various news sites known for different political biases and I'm glad to see that the overwhelming majority everywhere agree that it was a case of self-defense. Thank God we all still have some sense. That poor woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannqn Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A 16 year old male corners a 64 year old women at very close range while being verbally abusive? Not only self defense, but he had it coming. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snickelfritz Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I can't get the video to play, so I'm going off of the series of pictures..... Whether he technically made physical contact or not (which seems to be somewhat up for debate) the language he used and his "looming" posture, all while advancing on her and backing her in a corner....he meant to be physically intimidating. He was using his size against her. You can't do that to people, get in their physical space like that, and then claim (whether I believe him or not) that he didn't touch her, so she shouldn't have reacted...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewellsmommy Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I don't usually condone a teacher hitting a student....but that guy was big, in her face, angry, and cursing. She didn't know what he would do next...grab her by the neck? Her fight or flight reaction was to defend herself and punch him. I can't blame her. He wasn't a small, defenseless elementary child. He was a big guy, probably very nearly an adult. :iagree: It looks as though things escalated quickly. I don't think that she had time to calmly dissolve the situation. He didn't leave her with many options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohdanigirl Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 That kid is huge. Nobody even bothered to call for help. She must have been scared out of her mind. Self defense. Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I don't know, if I were her I would ahve been terrified. I can see why she did it and it seems no one was either coming to her aide or getting help for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) The whole thing is so sad. She seemed to be considered a good teacher but he was clearly looking to make trouble. Who, in their right mind, licks a window without shame at the age??? As far as the comment (here or in one of the links) about there being no discipline at home.....perhaps there is too much discipline and not enough guidance. Seems he has learned to use intimidation well. Sad for him as well if that is the case. Homeschooling is a breeze if that is the option. Edited June 7, 2011 by Once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Misogynist. I've been called, by someone who claimed to love me, the same thing she was called. That is, in and of itself, violence. Sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Honestly, I found myself wishing that the first shot had been a strong one to the jaw, and that the second had been a hard knee to the groin. Hard. Veerrry Hard. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazakaal Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 She was absolutely right to act in self defense. I can't believe that the student wasn't expelled for his behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanchGirl Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 This kid's parents should be embarrassed, not filing a lawsuit. Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saujana Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 He is a bully, that's it. He deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyinTN Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 He is a bully, that's it.He deserves it. I totally agree! Whatever happen to children respecting their teachers and acting like they weren't raised in barns?:001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie in Oh Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 she did the right thing. Pompous twit of a kid deserved more. Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 He is a bully, that's it.He deserves it. Yup. Intimidating someone is risky. They might decide they really are in dnager and lash out. That boy is just lucky it was a teacher in a relatively safe environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveOaksAcademy Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 If she was my mom or my daughter, I would be proud of her for handling a bully!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBlueLobsters Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 This kid's parents should be embarrassed, not filing a lawsuit. Sheesh. Hence the reason he is the way he is..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) I don't blame her either. She deserved to defend herself. Plan and simple. Here, we had a student come into a classroom and stab a teacher -she lost an eye. ANY threatening behavior from a much taller, menacing student and hey - I'd defend myself, too. Students need to know their actions WILL have consequences, and teachers WILL defend themselves! Just because they are teachers doesn't mean they have to stand their and take it. If the parents file a lawsuit - it is because the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and they hope to bully the school into paying up. I think all schools should cut into the budget for sports, etc. and provide mandatory self-defense courses for all adult school staff! Edited June 7, 2011 by JFSinIL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actuary Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 After watching the video, I agree it definitely looks like self defense to me. He was towering over her, literally right in her face. She told him to back away and he didn't. No one seemed to be going to get help from other adults - it seems like all the other students were just there watching. So what else was she supposed to do? In the video it looked like she could have been in imminent physical danger. It sounds like the teen needs help though. Licking a window, exploding into that much anger - it seems like his parents should be seeking some help for him instead of filing a lawsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 The smirk on the one kid's face in the beginning of the video makes me want to smack him. Then the girl yelling out as if the teacher had done something wrong. Yes, this is the level kids have sunk to. If anyone ever asks me again why I home school I will link them this article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty in Pink Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 That young man got what was coming to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 She was absolutely right to act in self defense. I can't believe that the student wasn't expelled for his behavior. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A 16 year old male corners a 64 year old women at very close range while being verbally abusive? Not only self defense, but he had it coming. :iagree: :iagree: I'd have punched him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A 16 year old male corners a 64 year old women at very close range while being verbally abusive? Not only self defense, but he had it coming. oh h*ll yeah :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Atta girl. She's got a pretty good right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A 16 year old male corners a 64 year old women at very close range while being verbally abusive? Not only self defense, but he had it coming. :iagree: The smirk on the one kid's face in the beginning of the video makes me want to smack him. Then the girl yelling out as if the teacher had done something wrong. Yes, this is the level kids have sunk to. If anyone ever asks me again why I home school I will link them this article. :iagree: Atta girl. She's got a pretty good right. Just needs to learn to follow up with a swift knee... Blows my mind that the parents would even consider suing. Insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 This kid's parents should be embarrassed, not filing a lawsuit. Sheesh. I hope someone punches these parents in the jaw or at least the pocketbook. Maybe if schools/teachers started suing parents would start to parent again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyKapers Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Unbelievable....I would have done the same thing.. Self Defense...If someone comes at you at takes a swing, I think it is just instinct that you would fight back.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/04/teacher-punches-student_n_871112.html?ref=fb&src=sp (video) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393978/Shocking-video-captures-moment-teacher-64-punched-student-face-cleared-child-abuse-charges.html (article with a little more detail) Thoughts? You may want to put a warning on that second link. My daughter was near me and there was an obscene picture to the right AND I kept getting one pop up after another :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I hope someone punches these parents in the jaw or at least the pocketbook. Maybe if schools/teachers started suing parents would start to parent again. I like that idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cin Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 The PARENTS are suing? If I were the teacher I'd take a medical leave (mental health issues) and sue THEM. Seriously. I don't know if *I* could go back into a classroom after an incident like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 If we were watching a video of this and the scene was the grocery store, then it would be a no brainer for EVERYONE. But for some reason, some idiot parents think they can dump these degenerate kids off for the day and the teachers will just suck up the abuse. That's awful!!! And why the heck that school hasn't thrown that kid out is beyond me. There's no way in heck I'd want my kids in a room with him!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 If we were watching a video of this and the scene was the grocery store, then it would be a no brainer for EVERYONE. But for some reason, some idiot parents think they can dump these degenerate kids off for the day and the teachers will just suck up the abuse. That's awful!!! And why the heck that school hasn't thrown that kid out is beyond me. There's no way in heck I'd want my kids in a room with him!! That is another thought. Why haven't the other parents raised h-e-double-hockey-sticks over this violent kid being in the school. Maybe it is just me. Violence in the schools is one of our top 3 reasons we homeschool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katiebug_1976 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 From what I can see it looks totally like self defense. It is completely out of line for a student, or anyone for that matter, to tower over and back someone up to a wall in a threatening manner. She had a right to defend herself imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 From what I can see it looks totally like self defense. It is completely out of line for a student, or anyone for that matter, to tower over and back someone up to a wall in a threatening manner. She had a right to defend herself imho. I agree. I admit to being a *little* surprised at the other students. There are other big guys in there, but they don't do anything until she punches the kid? The girl who yells that he didn't do anything? That's crazy. Bu, I've seen punk teens get away with worse. I will say that I think it's unfair to imply he learned to intimidate with his physicality from his parent(s). This is a kid who has been in the public schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I agree. Clearly self-defense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A rare case of common sense prevailing in schools apparently. Obviously one wishes there was another way to resolve this, but I'm glad she was cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 That is self defense. That poor woman. And good to the student who filmed it. Teachers and students need to be on notice that few things are secret now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsBasil Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A rare case of common sense prevailing in schools apparently. Obviously one wishes there was another way to resolve this, but I'm glad she was cleared. She was cleared of criminal charges, but I think the school district is still deciding if she will keep her job or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 She was cleared of criminal charges, but I think the school district is still deciding if she will keep her job or not. Did you notice that she's 64? Right before retirement. . . that poor woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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