SKL Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Allowed? I don't know. I say it, though. I haven't had a student, parent, or administrator complain. I think it is too minuscule for anyone to care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 My boys public school teachers and admin staff does and I don't mind. It is just an automatic reaction on their part. Some would also automatically give my boys a napkin/tissue paper and I don't mind that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candicane Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I don't think I ever had a teacher say it to me now that I think about it. I don't really mind, but I've gotten to a point (from having friends that did mind) where I say "Blush you" or some variation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Sounds like a strange thing to get one's knickers in a twist about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelotmom Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I certainly wouldn't complain about that one (or even notice it) unless it was part of a pattern of behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I transcribe high school and college classes for a living and can tell you that teachers say it all the time. I type that more than Gesundheit. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Χά�ων Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I would think "cover your mouth" and "wash your hands" would be more common response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerileanne99 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think it really has just become an almost ingrained reaction, although even in the middle of the Bible Belt where we live it has become more of a simple 'bless you.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 People around here just say "bless you." I'm not a Christian and I say "bless you." It has about as much to do with religion as someone saying, "omg." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That's just culture, I can't imagine it not being permitted. Are we going to start forbidding goodbye because it is a contracted form of God be with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think it's pretty clearly cultural more than religious at this point. I mean, the fact that so many people also say it in German of all things says to me that it's not really about religion or God per se. It's about a sort of ritualized greeting/saying. It's practically, "excuse me" or "See you later, alligator." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think it's pretty clearly cultural more than religious at this point. I mean, the fact that so many people also say it in German of all things says to me that it's not really about religion or God per se. It's about a sort of ritualized greeting/saying. It's practically, "excuse me" or "See you later, alligator." Wait. Are you saying when people tell me "see you later, alligator" they are not making an effort for me personally? I am shocked. And feel the urge to chomp someone on the leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Wait. Are you saying when people tell me "see you later, alligator" they are not making an effort for me personally? I am shocked. And feel the urge to chomp someone on the leg. I had a dream about an alligator last night. Maybe it was you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I had a dream about an alligator last night. Maybe it was you! If it bit you, it wasn't me. Talk to the crocodile down the street; her sister said, "after awhile", when she left for the gym......... She was last seen as a clutch and matching pair of pumps. Clearly a croc with issues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It's the meds again, isn't it BLA5....:) It soooooooo is. (Hey, at least thus far tonight I have not turned common nouns into names of reproductive organ parts!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Going to bed before I start typing utter gibberish, Try not to get any threads deleted before morning...... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think it's pretty clearly cultural more than religious at this point. I mean, the fact that so many people also say it in German of all things says to me that it's not really about religion or God per se. It's about a sort of ritualized greeting/saying. It's practically, "excuse me" or "See you later, alligator." It's such a weird cultural thing, though. I mean, in all other situations, a person's bodily functions are politely ignored by any onlookers. I don't say anything when other people sneeze, and I say "excuse me" when I do. I don't believe my cultural revolution has gained much traction, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerileanne99 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It's such a weird cultural thing, though. I mean, in all other situations, a person's bodily functions are politely ignored by any onlookers. I don't say anything when other people sneeze, and I say "excuse me" when I do. I don't believe my cultural revolution has gained much traction, though. Because it is late and I am over-preoccupied by staying awake to monitor a sick kid I decided a bit of research into society's preoccupation with oral expulsions was in order😷 Lots of interesting information, including the fact that nearly every culture around the world has a variation. http://people.howstuffworks.com/sneezing.htm Funnily enough, although there is some evidence for the thought that a person's soul could be expelled via a sneeze and thus needed a blessing; apparently other bodily noises did not such a portent indicate and could be ignored:) http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/blessyou.asp I did like the reference to the fact that apparently Pope Gregory decided that every sneeze should be immediately blessed as it might be an indication they had contracted the plague. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_bless_you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I mean, the fact that so many people also say it in German of all things says to me that it's not really about religion or God per se. "Gesundheit" means "health," not "God bless you." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I doubt anyone would care, really. I say bless you, but then I wonder why I do. It doesn't mean anything today other than polite social behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Bless You is more common in our school than God Bless You, but if/when someone sneezes, one is quite likely to hear at least 4 or 5 responding to it (the teacher being one of them). It's not even always the same kids responding. It's more like a "see who can do it first" thing and once enough respond, that covers it. It would be unusual if the teacher weren't one of them though. By high school we rarely have to tell them to cover their mouth and if they do it properly with their arm, there's no need to wash hands. If they use their hands, whether they wash them or not is up to them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilma Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have a kid who always sneezes in 3s. So the sneeze/bless conversation goes like this: Her: a-choo! Me: Bless! Her: a-choo! Me: You! Her: a-choo! Me: Pebbles! Her: thank you. *snuffle, snuffle* I'm 100% sure that all through my public school student career and teaching career people said "bless you" and other people either said "thank you" graciously or at worse just ignored it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Χά�ων Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This came across my facebook news feed this morning and I thought of this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I know it is a relatively harmless saying.....but it does bug me when people say it to me and makes me feel uncomfortable. I just graciously try to ignore the comment and the person intruding on my personal space! Makes me sound like a grouchy person - I'm not but it is one of life's little annoyances to me. Just like before my husband's surgery, the nurses asked if it would be okay to give him a blessing before they wheeled him out of his room.... inappropriate as it was not wanted or desired on any level but sort of "jinxing" him if we didn't....not something you want to have hanging over your head as you are rolled into surgery! Myra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 My math teacher in high school would scream at anyone who said that, because he said it was a violation of the separation of church and state. He also took off all possible Jewish holidays as vacation days [along with about 75% of the student body, although curiously their enthusiasm for Rosh Hashana had dwindled by Yom Kippur ;) ]. He was an interesting character. I also had my first cavity filled as a kid, by a dentist who paused for me to say Hail Mary. I am not Catholic and gave no indication that I was (I wasn't wearing a plaid skirt or something). It was kind of funny, as in, funny weird. Re other bodily emissions - I had a kindergarten aged kid insist that I needed to say "Bless you" when anyone burped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have a kid who always sneezes in 3s. So the sneeze/bless conversation goes like this: Her: a-choo! Me: Bless! Her: a-choo! Me: You! Her: a-choo! Me: Pebbles! Her: thank you. *snuffle, snuffle* I'm 100% sure that all through my public school student career and teaching career people said "bless you" and other people either said "thank you" graciously or at worse just ignored it. One of my kids is a serial sneezer. My other kid likes to call herself Pikachu. So I say, one kid is Pikachu, the other one is Pikachu-chu-chu-chu-chu. :) If I see it coming on, I will say "Pika" before each "chu." We are weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Anyone have a sunshine/bright light sneezer? My one son sneezes when he walks outside into bright sunlight. Photic sneeze reflex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Anyone have a sunshine/bright light sneezer? My one son sneezes when he walks outside into bright sunlight. Photic sneeze reflex ME! Literally, though, it's me. One of the boys might do it occasionally. But for me it's the norm. As far as the 'Bless you' goes, well, I say it and everyone I've ever known has. I don't think it has anything to do with religion. I never really have heard 'God Bless You' in this case, though. Just the standard 'Bless you'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I had a classmate who always had the cutest sneezes. She got "Bless you". When I sneezed, people were mostly waiting for the roof to come back down, which gave me time to turn red and duck. (Another child who loves dancing bacon. He says is a little strange, and a lot funny.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsey Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm an atheist, and I always say, "Bless you." I view it as a English-language and cultural convention. Sometimes I say "God bless you" because I said it that way for so long it just slips out. Not a big deal to me if I say it or anyone else says it. Of course teachers should be able to say it. It is essentially meaningless in the situation. Nothing more than a convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammi K Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Another photic-sneezer here. Sometimes it's so bad that even after I've been out in the sun and gotten past that initial hail of sneezes, just walking or driving past something that casts a shadow over my face will launch a sneezing fit when it passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbridgeacademy Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 People around here just say "bless you." I'm not a Christian and I say "bless you." It has about as much to do with religion as someone saying, "omg." Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaqui Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I think you'd have to really stretch a point to consider "bless you" after a sneeze, with or without saying "god", to be any form of endorsement of religion. And even if you did individually, the courts wouldn't agree. We can't even take god back out of the pledge or back off the money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tenn-teen-punished-bless-classroom-article-1.1911238 Huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tenn-teen-punished-bless-classroom-article-1.1911238 Huh. First, the teacher sounds like a loon or a person with serious control issues. Second, it sounds like what got the girl in trouble wasn't so much the use of the phrase as the fact she shouted it across the room and proceeded to argue with the teacher about it. When I was in 8th grade we had a group of Christian students who decided to make stands about two or three issues. They disrupted classes and refused to complete assignments. At the time I agreed with their stance on the issues but recognized that they were being jack holes about it. Is it possible this girl is being persecuted in the middle of the 'can't swing a cat without hitting a church' state of Tennesee? Yes. Is it very likely to be an 'if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck' ....... That's where I'd lay my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 First, the teacher sounds like a loon or a person with serious control issues. Second, it sounds like what got the girl in trouble wasn't so much the use of the phrase as the fact she shouted it across the room and proceeded to argue with the teacher about it. When I was in 8th grade we had a group of Christian students who decided to make stands about two or three issues. They disrupted classes and refused to complete assignments. At the time I agreed with their stance on the issues but recognized that they were being jack holes about it. Is it possible this girl is being persecuted in the middle of the 'can't swing a cat without hitting a church' state of Tennesee? Yes. Is it very likely to be an 'if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck' ....... That's where I'd lay my money. I think the bigger question is if SKL is a Time Traveler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think the bigger question is if SKL is a Time Traveler. This might be the most important question asked on this thread yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momofeat Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Anyone have a sunshine/bright light sneezer? My one son sneezes when he walks outside into bright sunlight. Photic sneeze reflex My ds does this! I didn't know there was a name for it. He's always called it his "sun allergy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Anyone have a sunshine/bright light sneezer? My one son sneezes when he walks outside into bright sunlight. Photic sneeze reflex I am. I have a kid who always sneezes in 3s. So the sneeze/bless conversation goes like this: Her: a-choo! Me: Bless! Her: a-choo! Me: You! Her: a-choo! Me: Pebbles! Her: thank you. *snuffle, snuffle* I'm 100% sure that all through my public school student career and teaching career people said "bless you" and other people either said "thank you" graciously or at worse just ignored it. DH and his sister are annoyingly serial sneezers. After the first couple, I'm "over" hearing them...lol... Fortunately, SIL's sneezes are cute. Unfortunately, I start counting them, and her last episode was 7 in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truscifi Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I'm a serial sneezer. With cute little sneezes. That everyone has to comment on. Every time. :huh: Seriously, it gets old for me too. Ds10 loves it though. He likes to count my sneezes. The most he's ever counted was 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think if the teacher did get in trouble for it, she could just claim she was mis-heard when said "gobless", in an attempt to prevent a mess on the floor in front of the sneezer, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 One of my kids is a serial sneezer. My other kid likes to call herself Pikachu. So I say, one kid is Pikachu, the other one is Pikachu-chu-chu-chu-chu. :) If I see it coming on, I will say "Pika" before each "chu." We are weird. Funny. My youngest sneezes at least 5 in a row every time. Maybe 3 times her whole life she's had just one sneeze. Every time she reacts like she won the lottery and runs around telling everyone in the family that she sneezed JUST ONE TIME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeto. Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tenn-teen-punished-bless-classroom-article-1.1911238 Huh. So in Tennessee, where the popular religious moral code inspired the "don't say gay" bill for schools, where LGBTQ students will be allowed to be... persuaded by their religious peers to adopt Christian moral preferred sexual standards, it's against the rule to say the customary "Bless you" following a sneeze? Methinks there's more to this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think the bigger question is if SKL is a Time Traveler. Doo-weeee-ooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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