MIch elle Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 My younger ds, 15yo, had his physical today. His male doctor recommended HPV vaccine. I turned it down today but will look at the scientific data to see if he should get it next time as well as consider it for 18yo ds . If you vaccinate, will you give your boys HPV? And have you look at the data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 None for both son and daughter. Terrible side effects documented. No way for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No here, too, for both boys and girls. Too many people use scare tactics nowadays but this vaccine has some real questions surrounding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara in Colo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Not gonna happen here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Χά�ων Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 None for both son and daughter. Terrible side effects documented. No way for us! :iagree: There are a few that I refuse to allow DS to have and this is at the top of the list. I do not have a daughter but I am 100% against it for girls as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athomemom Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 :iagree: There are a few that I refuse to allow DS to have and this is at the top of the list. I do not have a daughter but I am 100% against it for girls as well. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenL Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 There are just way too many problems surrounding this vaccine. We're not there yet (although they recommend for as early as age 11!). We will not be getting it when we get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 None for both son and daughter. Terrible side effects documented. No way for us! Major news report here on a group of incapacitated girls, a couple now in wheelchairs. No way on this one. I don't do new vaccines anyway. If it isn't proven over a long period of time to have minimal side effects, I'm not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athena1277 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I am very pro-vax, but neither my boy or girl with get that vax. The benefits do not outweigh the possible problems from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginszoo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm another pro-vaccination person who has an indefinite hold on this one. If I were to have them get it, I'd have both girls and boys get it, but what long-term data out there is sketchy at best for efficacy, and the documented side effects are mounting. Even my children's pediatrician has backed off of recommending it, though they have it available in the office upon request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 We usually vaccinate, but this is the one I am for now refusing for my DD: it is still too new, there are bad side effects, plus the whole huge advertisement campaign pushing a new vaccine does not inspire my confidence. If I don't get it for DD, I surely won't get it for DS. I will wait and see how the information develops when the vaccine has been around for a longer time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Researcher Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No on this one for our family. Like others have said, it is too new and does not have the best track record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsheresomewhere Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I had cervical cancer and my kids will not get this one. DS is eligible but even my vaxing ped doesn't recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm pro-vax too and a mom of girls, but we're not getting that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Unless my ped suggests differently, I plan to have both my sons vaccinated during their high school years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorbackmama Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 We selectively vaccinate, and this one tops the BIG N-O list for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No, not here, not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Neither DS nor DD will be getting this vaccine - for all the reasons already mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No here, too, for both boys and girls. Too many people use scare tactics nowadays but this vaccine has some real questions surrounding it. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I vaccinate my kids but I turn down that one and the flu shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbeltmom Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I am very pro-vax, but neither my boy or girl with get that vax. The benefits do not outweigh the possible problems from it. :iagree: My kids will not get this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I vaccinate and I declined the HPV vaccine for my 16yo son. I told the doctor that I would let my son make his own decision when he is an adult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateReignRemix Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Major news report here on a group of incapacitated girls, a couple now in wheelchairs. No way on this one. I don't do new vaccines anyway. If it isn't proven over a long period of time to have minimal side effects, I'm not interested. Could you provide a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannqn Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No way! I read recently that there is evidence that it passes the blood brain barrier where it can cause cerebral vasculitis which may be fatal. Many of the reported side effects following HPV are indicative of cerebral vasculitis. These include intense persistent migraines, loss of consciousness, seizures, tremors and tingling, muscle pain, locomotor abnormalities, psychotic symptoms, and cognitive deficits. You can read the research paper I got this from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz4me Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I vaccinate and I declined the HPV vaccine for my 16yo son. I told the doctor that I would let my son make his own decision when he is an adult. That pretty well describes our approach, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Could you provide a link? Here is the youtube video of one of the reports I saw on television, and I think I saw one or two others. That was enough for me. You can disregard a couple of anecdotal reports, but when hundreds arise, I'm listening, especially when contradicted by those with financial interests in promoting whatever it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0vzBVYF4-c Combined with the information another poster included about this issue below, that was enough for me. http://sanevax.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Tomljenovic-Shaw-Gardasil-Causal-Coincidental-2167-7689-S12-001.pdf Edited November 5, 2012 by TranquilMind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnaM Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Pro-vax here. Pediatrician recommended it in the early summertime. He gave his own 12 year old twins the vaccine. DS12 has had the first of three, and scheduled for the next two before the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateReignRemix Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Here is the youtube video of one of the reports I saw on television, and I think I saw one or two others. That was enough for me. You can disregard a couple of anecdotal reports, but when hundreds arise, I'm listening, especially when contradicted by those with financial interests in promoting whatever it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0vzBVYF4-c 35 million doses. 18,000 reactions Only 8% serious - none proven to be related to the vaccine when investigated (although I believe that has changed since that report) Not exactly overwhelming evidence your link. All medications and vaccines have the potential for reactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trish Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 My younger ds, 15yo, had his physical today. His male doctor recommended HPV vaccine. I turned it down today but will look at the scientific data to see if he should get it next time as well as consider it for 18yo ds . If you vaccinate, will you give your boys HPV? And have you look at the data? Given some of the horrific side effects that have been noted (my cousin's daughter had one), I think it would be reasonable to allow your child to make the decision for him/herself at age 18, so they take responsibility for any negative health implications that could occur. Latest one I read about for girls is premature menopause leading to infertility. Of course these side effects are rare, but all too real for the young people experiencing them. Also I think the research and safety measures taken on behalf of this particular vaccination have been inadequate. (One of the women who was a developer of this vaccine has stated this) In general we vaccinate, but the HPV, no way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justLisa Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 NO way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I am pro vac but my older dd did not get this one (potential side effect is blood clot and she has Factor V Leiden). I will allow second dd to decide when she is 18. My only son was an adult when this came available so no, he hasn't had it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsior! Academy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 35 million doses.18,000 reactions Only 8% serious - none proven to be related to the vaccine when investigated (although I believe that has changed since that report) Not exactly overwhelming evidence your link. All medications and vaccines have the potential for reactions. Those are pretty low numbers for reactions. Our pediatrician highly recommends the vaccination. I did substantial research from reliable sources, and agreed. So did the boys, so they have both had two out of the three, and will finish the set shortly. For both their protection and that of their future wives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestof3 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Not gonna happen here! :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I haven't decided yet. I'll probably wait and let my boys decide. A friend of mine is anti-vax. Her dh is currently being treated for HPV throat cancer. She has decided that her boys will be getting the vax because it's just too close to home for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Girls' Mom Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 My kids have had most of the traditional vaccinations. They will not be getting the HPV vax at all. I wouldn't give it to a boy OR a girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristyB in TN Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yes for my daughter, no for my sons. I, quite honestly, didn't look at all the date for the boys but I didn't hesitate to read, research and make the appointments for my daughter to receive the vaccine. My oldest is in college and can make future decisions about his vaccinations for himself. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupOCoffee Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 There are just way too many problems surrounding this vaccine. We're not there yet (although they recommend for as early as age 11!). We will not be getting it when we get there. ^^ this! Our doc never even mentioned it at their last check ups; she was 10, he was 15. If I am asked at the next check up, the answer will be no on both counts. ~coffee~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoareyou Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 NO WAY. And this may be the splitting point for leaving our docs office and finding a new one. I've been able to hold off the nurse on the CP vax but if she keeps hounding me about CP and HPV I'm going to leave the practice. And what gets me is its the NURSE, not the doc. I selectively vax, the doc is fine with that but the nurse has some massive attitude. Ugh. No to hpv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypatia. Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 My kids are all below the recommended age but it will be a big NO here, for both my boys and my girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinmami01 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 My boys are 11 and apparently due for vaccinations at our last visit this visit. Due to my boys seizure history, I was uneasy. Yes, they had all vaccinations up until this time, and I don't want to make this a debate about vaccinations. I came across this during my research and this literally made my stomach turn. These were links posted in regards to the HPV vaccine specifically. http://www.citizen-times.net/archive/article/?id=71631 http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/05/03/nm_woman_sues_alleges_hpv_vaccine_hurt_daughter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 35 million doses.18,000 reactions Only 8% serious - none proven to be related to the vaccine when investigated (although I believe that has changed since that report) Not exactly overwhelming evidence your link. All medications and vaccines have the potential for reactions. Reactions that were documented. Remember, most are dismissed up front by doctors as they "could not possibly be from the vaccine, because vaccines are safe". Unless parents know to document their own reactions in the proper places, then doctors rarely report reactions because almost none will state that it is a possible vaccine reaction. The pressure against this stance is too great. So these are 18,000 reactions that we know about. Yes, of course all medications and vaccines have potential for reactions, but this particular vaccine has a troubling history and the evidence is growing. Merck is being sued right now in Australia in a class action over this vaccine. Merck paid out billions for the Vioxx debacle, by the way, so it is no stranger to getting product on the market and sold and worrying about liability later. You can't sue and win in the States because of the vaccine liability shield law. You roll the dice the way you choose, and I will roll the dice the way I choose. This one is a no here. Here are a few more videos here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 My boys are 11 and apparently due for vaccinations at our last visit this visit. Due to my boys seizure history, I was uneasy. Yes, they had all vaccinations up until this time, and I don't want to make this a debate about vaccinations. I came across this during my research and this literally made my stomach turn. These were links posted in regards to the HPV vaccine specifically. http://www.citizen-times.net/archive/article/?id=71631 http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/05/03/nm_woman_sues_alleges_hpv_vaccine_hurt_daughter/ Interesting. Love this, from the second article: Cossette Wheeler, a University of New Mexico microbiology professor who helped develop and test Gardasil, said there's no evidence suggesting deaths or injuries among girls who have received it are attributable to the vaccine. "People develop seizure disorders out of thin air -- young kids, old kids, everybody," she said. Right. Every day random teen girls become debilitated for no apparent reason right after this particular vaccination. :001_huh: Note the money phrase in bold. No bias there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 NO WAY. And this may be the splitting point for leaving our docs office and finding a new one. I've been able to hold off the nurse on the CP vax but if she keeps hounding me about CP and HPV I'm going to leave the practice. And what gets me is its the NURSE, not the doc.I selectively vax, the doc is fine with that but the nurse has some massive attitude. Ugh. No to hpv. Have you told the doctor that the nurse is harassing you about this? Unfortunately, this is the wave of the future. Peds are booting patients who make their own decisions on these things left and right for "noncompliance". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIch elle Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Thank you for all your responses. We will pass on HPV vaccine for my sons. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/11/13/hpv-vaccine-scrutiny.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljenn Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I am pro-vac as well, and this is the only one my dd did NOT get. Side effects, brand new, and its a vaccine against a STD. Why not just wait for marriage like we are teaching her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Lots of women wait for marriage and still contract an STD or HIV. Waiting until marriage really only protects the partner of the virgin, once s/he becomes sexually active. One remains vulnerable to STDs because one is dependent on the actions and health of others. As an example, I know someone who had an HIV test, and had her fiance get an HIV test, before marriage, who then contracted HIV from her husband. She is a very religious person and was not sexually active outside of her marriage, either before or during. It's one thing to oppose the vaccine, but I am not a believer that being religious automatically provides a shield from all harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momofkhm Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haven't read through the whole thread, not going to. But the few I did read talk about the side effects of now. This vaccine targets the female reproductive anatomy right? My daughters aren't getting it, nor my son, until there are LONG term studies showing that it will not effect their fertility or that of their daughters. I have a friend whose mother had horrible morning sickness. There was a drug at the time considered safe for that. Daughter (my friend) has a T shaped uterus and had 3 or 4 miscarriages. At least 2 of those were so bad she needed blood transfusions because she hemorrhaged so badly. You can say it's not the drug her mom took, but I still wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/05/03/nm_woman_sues_alleges_hpv_vaccine_hurt_daughter/ The woman who developed Gardasil is pretty clear, actually, that it is most effective in populations with high cervical cancer rates. 80% of cervical cancer occurs in the developing world. So therefore the number of women in the US with cervical cancer doesn't have much reducing to do. That doesn't mean it's a useless vaccine. Many women in the world never get pap smears, either. There is a HUGE room for improvement. According to the CDC, Cervical cancer used to be the leading cause of cancer death for women in the United States. However, in the past 40 years, the number of cases of cervical cancer and the number of deaths from cervical cancer have decreased significantly. This decline largely is the result of many women getting regular Pap tests, which can find cervical precancer before it turns into cancer. In 2008, just over 4000 women died of cervical cancer in the US. Compare that with women worldwide http://globocan.iarc.fr/factsheets/cancers/cervix.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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