Colleen Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I'm of course simplifying, in my poll here, a complex issue. If you choose "other", feel free to explain the nuances of your thought process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't support *fetal* stem cell research. Adult scr has proven to be quite effective in various areas. I certainly don't support government funded stem cell research. If there is a chance of scr curing anything, private companies would be all over it for the profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritaserum Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersDozen Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't support *fetal* stem cell research. Adult scr has proven to be quite effective in various areas. I certainly don't support government funded stem cell research. If there is a chance of scr curing anything, private companies would be all over it for the profit. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree: Me too. That is why I picked other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmgirlinwv Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I voted "other". I do not in any way support embryonic stem cell research. Other stem cell research I support in theory, but not w/ gov't $$. lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I voted "other". I do not in any way support embryonic stem cell research. Other stem cell research I support in theory, but not w/ gov't $$. ditto. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in Neverland Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnetteB Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 :iagree: I voted "other". I do not in any way support embryonic stem cell research. Other stem cell research I support in theory, but not w/ gov't $$. lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Same as all the other gals - no go on embryonic research. That should be no surprise as a good portion of us are pro-life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineFarmMom Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I voted "other". I do not in any way support embryonic stem cell research. Other stem cell research I support in theory, but not w/ gov't $$. lisa I agree with this statement!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangermom Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I voted "other". I do not in any way support embryonic stem cell research. Other stem cell research I support in theory, but not w/ gov't $$. lisa Yep, me too. The gov't doesn't need to be involved in medical research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemyboys Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't support *fetal* stem cell research. Adult scr has proven to be quite effective in various areas. I certainly don't support government funded stem cell research. If there is a chance of scr curing anything, private companies would be all over it for the profit. Yes to all your points here. The results with adult stem cells so far have been very promising, without all the tissue rejection complications (when a patient's own cells are used as in the case of the trachea/esoph. implant). I'm very disappointed that this funding moratorium was reversed, as if all these other avenues didn't exist. Research is being done, embryonic research is being done, private research is being done. It's dishonest to represent it as otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer in NH Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Only with adult stem cells, which can be collected without damage to the donor and can even be harvested, treated, and returned to the donor for person-specific therapies (well, someday). Seems there is a way to have all the benefits without the ethical dilemmas, but the scientific community is so fixated on freedom to research anything they see fit, regardless of "ideology" (aka moral concerns) that they are unwilling to give this therapy center stage. Furthermore, they insist on government funding that ethically heedless research with tax monies that could well be used elsewhere, since there is private money available to fund this promising area of research. :iagree: What she said! I voted other as well. There has been quite a bit of success in adult stem call research. it is too bad that it isn't concentrated on. I think all that about fetal stem cells curing everything from parkinson's to the common cold is just hooey. and I do have a dog in this fight...7 people in my family and Dh's family have parkinson's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support government funded embryonic stem cell research. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakven Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I too do NOT support embryonic stem cell research, and answered "No" on the poll because the common vernacular refers to it as "stem cell research" as if the adult version doesn't exist! ARGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katemary63 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree::iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakven Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Only with adult stem cells, which can be collected without damage to the donor and can even be harvested, treated, and returned to the donor for person-specific therapies (well, someday). Seems there is a way to have all the benefits without the ethical dilemmas, but the scientific community is so fixated on freedom to research anything they see fit, regardless of "ideology" (aka moral concerns) that they are unwilling to give this therapy center stage. Furthermore, they insist on government funding that ethically heedless research with tax monies that could well be used elsewhere, since there is private money available to fund this promising area of research. OH, just soooo totally AMEN!!!!!!!!!:iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momto2Cs Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenpatty Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ria Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support embryonic stem cell research. Ria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlemaiden Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I'm against embryonic stem cell research of any sort. Other stem cell research- placental, epithelial, etc.- I'm all for. We should be pouring research money into what works without destroying life. And I believe an embryo is life. The results have so far proven more promising in non-embryonic research anyways. As an added issue. Embryonic stem cell research will put a dollar value on embryos that will make the "business" of acquiring and/or creating embryos. That is unsupportable in my world. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie in Oh Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support embryonic stem cell research. Ria I ask because I respect you and want to know if I am missing the other side of the coin on this issue??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie in Oh Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I'm against embryonic stem cell research of any sort. Other stem cell research- placental, epithelial, etc.- I'm all for. We should be pouring research money into what works without destroying life. And I believe an embryo is life. The results have so far proven more promising in non-embryonic research anyways. As an added issue. Embryonic stem cell research will put a dollar value on embryos that will make the "business" of acquiring and/or creating embryos. That is unsupportable in my world. Jo I can't see the harvesting of embryonic stem cells not becoming a business for financial gain and I have a hard time with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I ask because I respect you and want to know if I am missing the other side of the coin on this issue??? Is it more ethical to dispose of (other other-wise discard) embryos left-over from IVF measures? Because this is (or was) the situation. Embryos have been destroyed for many years, when the alternative existed to create new stem cell lines with those embryos that other-wise would have been slated for destruction. If stem cells can deliver on the hope being offered on many fronts (a condition not yet fully proven) the ethics from my perspective is clear. It's better to use them in an attempt to cure disease and other terrible medical conditions rather than simply throwing them away. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Like many others I do not support embryonic stem cell research. Stem cells that are harvested from an adult body, willingly given by the donor, are another matter entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support government funded embryonic stem cell research.Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillary in KS Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't support *fetal* stem cell research. Adult scr has proven to be quite effective in various areas. I certainly don't support government funded stem cell research. If there is a chance of scr curing anything, private companies would be all over it for the profit. :iagree: What she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plucky Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't support *fetal* stem cell research. Adult scr has proven to be quite effective in various areas. I certainly don't support government funded stem cell research. If there is a chance of scr curing anything, private companies would be all over it for the profit. Well said. I totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I'm against embryonic stem cell research. Every time a baby is born, they are born with an umbilical cord. I've had 3 babies, and each time I was offered the opportunity to save their cord blood IF I payed a whole lot of $$$ to those cord blood banks. I would gladly give the cord blood from my babies birth's for research or to donate to a specific individual who needed it. BUT I'M KEEPING THE BABY!!!!!!!!!! (sorry for the cyber scream:tongue_smilie:) Sadly, donating cord blood freely is not an option for most mothers.:glare: btw - I have been personally touched by parkinsons and MS through family members. Neither of them would want to live a moment in a body healed by the destruction of another human being, no matter how small that embryo may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacqui in mo Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Is it more ethical to dispose of (other other-wise discard) embryos left-over from IVF measures? Because this is (or was) the situation. Embryos have been destroyed for many years, when the alternative existed to create new stem cell lines with those embryos that other-wise would have been slated for destruction. If stem cells can deliver on the hope being offered on many fronts (a condition not yet fully proven) the ethics from my perspective is clear. It's better to use them in an attempt to cure disease and other terrible medical conditions rather than simply throwing them away. Bill I don't think the question in this instance is which is more ethical. As I believe embryos are human life, both are unethical from my world view. No moral braking points seem to have been put in place with the development of IVF, allowing couples and Doctors to create more embryos than needed. There should have been some provision made on how "extra" embryos would be handled. Perhaps a couple could have to offer the embryos a chance at continued life through more implantations (Not all at once like the woman in CA, though!) or offer them out for adoption. There are organizations like Snowflake Children which advocate for adoption of abandoned embryos. To hold embryos frozen indefinitely, to discard them like trash, to experiment on them are all unethical. To use them to save lives sounds noble, but it is without the consent of the developing person. It pits the fully developed humans against the weak, without voices. Should comatose people be used for medical experiments because there's a promising new potential cure that can be extracted from the comatose brain? We could argue that those people will probably never wake up again, their lives are going to waste. But the end justifies the means is not a good argument. I hopefully am coming across in a discussion tone, maybe a little passionate, but not angry or upset. I do feel strongly about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philothea Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't think the question in this instance is which is more ethical. As I believe embryos are human life, both are unethical from my world view. No moral braking points seem to have been put in place with the development of IVF, allowing couples and Doctors to create more embryos than needed. There should have been some provision made on how "extra" embryos would be handled. Perhaps a couple could have to offer the embryos a chance at continued life through more implantations (Not all at once like the woman in CA, though!) or offer them out for adoption. There are organizations like Snowflake Children which advocate for adoption of abandoned embryos. To hold embryos frozen indefinitely, to discard them like trash, to experiment on them are all unethical. To use them to save lives sounds noble, but it is without the consent of the developing person. It pits the fully developed humans against the weak, without voices. Should comatose people be used for medical experiments because there's a promising new potential cure that can be extracted from the comatose brain? We could argue that those people will probably never wake up again, their lives are going to waste. But the end justifies the means is not a good argument. I hopefully am coming across in a discussion tone, maybe a little passionate, but not angry or upset. I do feel strongly about this. I agree with you. I believe that IVF should be unlawful. But what to do about all of the forzen embryos? I think they should be given a proper and dignified burial. Perhaps a monument to respecting life and medical morality would be a nice way to honor them, instead of just disposing them or incinerating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty ethel rackham Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't support fetal stem cell research. I do support adult stem cell research. I also support cord blood SCR, but only if the harvesting procedures do not deprive the newborn of their own cord blood (like clamping and cutting too soon for the purpose of getting a greater volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXMomof4 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I haven't read any of the other posts, so this may be redundant. Last night on the news there was a story of 2 women who had neck injuries and were paralyzed as a result. They went to Russia for an experimental stem cell treatment for those injuries. Both received injections of THEIR OWN STEM CELLS - not embryonic cells. These women won't benefit at all from embryonic cells, but their own cells have proven useful. When I had my babies, I tried to donate the cord blood for the stem cells. That is a ready supply of cells. They want me to pay to keep it because it is proven to be useful - but I can't give it away. If embryonic cells are so useful, let private industry research it like it has been. If there are other sources of stem cells available (which there are) use them first. I don't think it's the place of the government to fund somehting that is morally questionable when there are other viable options available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I'm against embryonic stem cell research. Every time a baby is born, they are born with an umbilical cord. I've had 3 babies, and each time I was offered the opportunity to save their cord blood IF I payed a whole lot of $$$ to those cord blood banks. I would gladly give the cord blood from my babies birth's for research or to donate to a specific individual who needed it. BUT I'M KEEPING THE BABY!!!!!!!!!! (sorry for the cyber scream:tongue_smilie:) Sadly, donating cord blood freely is not an option for most mothers.:glare: I am very blessed to live in an area with a cord blood bank. I donated cord blood from both of my children. They keep it tagged so that, if I ever needed it, I'd be able to get (if it's still available). This makes more sense to me than storing it at an exorbitant cost for my own use. I do not support embryonic stem-cell research. Even if I did, I CERTAINLY don't support government money spent on it for a multitude of reasons. My best friend has MS, my mom has cancer. Neither are interested in prolonging their lives or curing themselves if it means a voiceless, weak person must, without volunteering, die to bring that about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Marple Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Support stem cell research that does not require harvesting of unborn babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree: Add me to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCrazyMama Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Originally Posted by farmgirlinwv I voted "other". I do not in any way support embryonic stem cell research. Other stem cell research I support in theory, but not w/ gov't $$. lisa Yep, me too. The gov't doesn't need to be involved in medical research. :iagree: My feelings exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ria Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I ask because I respect you and want to know if I am missing the other side of the coin on this issue??? The embryos from which the stem cells are taken are frozen "remnants" of IVF procedures. The cells divide to the blastula stage and are harvested. The other option is that the cells remain in the freezer forever. In both cases, no human life is formed, but in one case, some good can result from the creation of a stem cell line that might, someday, help scientists discover how cells differentiate, discover how to prevent or cure certain disorders, etc. Use of these cell lines could someday drastically decrease animal testing, and give better results as to what will or will not harm humans. It's a tough situation. In a perfect world, there would not be freezers full of little balls of human cells. The fact is, however, that those little balls of cells are there, and will remain unused. My guess is that at some point they will be destroyed anyway, because the cost of keeping them frozen indefinately (especially as more and more become stored) will become prohibitive. So, given the current situation, I support using them to create cell lines that could potentially help people. Ria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Is it more ethical to dispose of (other other-wise discard) embryos left-over from IVF measures? Because this is (or was) the situation. Embryos have been destroyed for many years, when the alternative existed to create new stem cell lines with those embryos that other-wise would have been slated for destruction. If stem cells can deliver on the hope being offered on many fronts (a condition not yet fully proven) the ethics from my perspective is clear. It's better to use them in an attempt to cure disease and other terrible medical conditions rather than simply throwing them away. Bill The embryos from which the stem cells are taken are frozen "remnants" of IVF procedures. The cells divide to the blastula stage and are harvested. The other option is that the cells remain in the freezer forever. In both cases, no human life is formed, but in one case, some good can result from the creation of a stem cell line that might, someday, help scientists discover how cells differentiate, discover how to prevent or cure certain disorders, etc. Use of these cell lines could someday drastically decrease animal testing, and give better results as to what will or will not harm humans. It's a tough situation. In a perfect world, there would not be freezers full of little balls of human cells. The fact is, however, that those little balls of cells are there, and will remain unused. My guess is that at some point they will be destroyed anyway, because the cost of keeping them frozen indefinately (especially as more and more become stored) will become prohibitive. So, given the current situation, I support using them to create cell lines that could potentially help people. Ria :iagree: And forgive me if I'm naive, but couldn't regulations be put in place much like the ones surrounding organ transplant, so selling unused embryos wouldn't become big business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiCO Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I'm of course simplifying, in my poll here, a complex issue. If you choose "other", feel free to explain the nuances of your thought process. I fully support all kinds of stem cell research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof165 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I support government funded embryonic stem cell research, as well as other stem cell research. Sonja _______________________________ Homeschooling JUST ONE - ds 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soph the vet Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I support non-embryonic stem cell research. :) :iagree: I am very thankful that I was once an embryo and look at me now...I can post on this board. I bet some of us here are young enough to have even been products of IVF. Aren't you glad you were not the one left in the freezer? All embryos are little tiny people. All the information (DNA) making them into big people is already there. How cool is that. How terrible to destroy one life to improve another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlemaiden Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 The embryos from which the stem cells are taken are frozen "remnants" of IVF procedures. The cells divide to the blastula stage and are harvested. The other option is that the cells remain in the freezer forever. In both cases, no human life is formed, but in one case, some good can result from the creation of a stem cell line that might, someday, help scientists discover how cells differentiate, discover how to prevent or cure certain disorders, etc. Use of these cell lines could someday drastically decrease animal testing, and give better results as to what will or will not harm humans. It's a tough situation. In a perfect world, there would not be freezers full of little balls of human cells. The fact is, however, that those little balls of cells are there, and will remain unused. My guess is that at some point they will be destroyed anyway, because the cost of keeping them frozen indefinately (especially as more and more become stored) will become prohibitive. So, given the current situation, I support using them to create cell lines that could potentially help people. Ria I believe this reflects the ethics behind keeping the embryos frozen, or worse to destroy them. I don't think they should be destroyed either. I agree it is a problem to have freezers full of embryos. But the answer isn't to destroy them. The problem is in the indiscriminate creation in the first place. In my medical ethics course in college we discussed the ending of life support. The rule in most cases of life support withdrawal is whether or not the person has the potential to survive on their own in time. In other words, do they have the potential of life? You can not withdrawal life support if the person has the potential of recovery. The same rule should apply to embryos. They all have the potential for life. Even when they are in the blastula phase. The *potential* is still there. To do research on these "cells" is truly objectionable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaid Dad Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Another supporter of non-embryonic stem cell research here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reya Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I don't support *fetal* stem cell research. Adult scr has proven to be quite effective in various areas. I certainly don't support government funded stem cell research. If there is a chance of scr curing anything, private companies would be all over it for the profit. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I support stem cell research with no reservations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reya Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I agree with you. I believe that IVF should be unlawful. But what to do about all of the forzen embryos? I think they should be given a proper and dignified burial. Perhaps a monument to respecting life and medical morality would be a nice way to honor them, instead of just disposing them or incinerating them. I wouldn't say that IVF should be unlawful! You do NOTNOTNOT have to create more embryos than you are willing to bring to term for IVF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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