cdrumm4448 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 your SIL brought hand sanitizing wipes to your house to wipe doorknobs off with? Background: my nephew has had the flu complete with vomiting and fever since last weekend. I was told he didn't vomit yesterday (Tuesday) and his fever is gone today (Wednesday.) We are going to their house for Thanksgiving tomorrow. I have stuffed my children full of probiotics, yogurt, D3 and anything else I can think of that's immune boosting. I bought a can of wipes at Jewel today. I plan to wipe off the doorknobs we touch, as well as the bathroom. Would you be offended, or would you understand I don't want my kids to get sick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingersmom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would not be offended but I would think it was weird. What about the silverware, glasses, plates that someone who set the table touched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarlaS Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended, but I'm not that easily offended. I'd think "Cool! Someone's cleaning my house!" :lol: Seriously, if I had a sick kid and had invited people over, I'd probably clean quite thoroughly and then put the cleaning wipes out myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanne in ABQ Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would probably invite everyone over to my house instead. I'd tell my SIL that, after all she'd been going through with her ds all week, the last thing she needs to worry about is sanitizing the house and cooking Thanksgiving dinner. "Why don't you all just come over here. You can come early. We'll cook. It'll be fun!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended, but I also don't offend easily at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehogs4 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 i'd probably try not to be offended, but would be on some level, but that's just me and my own hang-ups. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet in Toronto Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'd think it was odd, and so wouldn't bring wipes. I'd just give my kids some hand sanitizer to use after using the bathroom and every so often. Or simply not attend the dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly IN Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended at all. (at least she is wiping HER germs off and preventing her germs on her hand from touching my stuff) :D:D:D:D:D:D:D Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) Would you be offended, or would you understand I don't want my kids to get sick? I wouldn't be offended at all, but I would think that if your kids go to the grocery, to pre-school, to music lessons, dance lessons, or any outside sports, that you were driving yourself crazy over something you have very little control over. :001_smile: If you suspect that she may be offended, perhaps it's not worth the wipes? (Or maybe just stay home?) Edited November 26, 2009 by Julie in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I think it might depend on how it was done. If you walked into my house with a big smile and a hug and you said, "Look, I'm crazy and I just really don't want my kids getting sick because I can't deal with that right now so I'm going to wipe down the doorknobs. Still my friend?" I'd laugh and say, "Whatever floats your boat!" If you were sneaky about it and acting "strange", I'd be more inclined to think, "What the heck is up with this crazy gal? She got problems with my cleaning or what?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyWImom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would be thrilled! Because I always feel like such a germ freak, I love it when I see other people acting the way I do. :D Most of my close friends are the same way, so we totally understand. Just tell her "I know you probably think I'm crazy, but I'd rather have that than risk my dc getting sick. Nothing personal." Happy Thanksgiving! ps-dh was at about 4 different stores today, and everytime I talked to him on his cell, I would say "You used your sanitizer, right? You didn't use the store's pen, right?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I think it might depend on how it was done. If you walked into my house with a big smile and a hug and you said, "Look, I'm crazy and I just really don't want my kids getting sick because I can't deal with that right now so I'm going to wipe down the doorknobs. Still my friend?" I'd laugh and say, "Whatever floats your boat!" If you were sneaky about it and acting "strange", I'd be more inclined to think, "What the heck is up with this crazy gal? She got problems with my cleaning or what?" :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayle in Guatemala Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I absolutely would NOT be offended! I think it's a great idea. I would look at it as she didn't want to get my kids sick again if her kids were carrying the flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex-mex Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Reminds me of the friend who used to pre-wash her soiled utensils with Clorox spray cleaner before popping them in the dishwasher to be cleaned. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'd be offended. Can't think I wouldn't. BUT, I wouldn't be offended if you just kept your kids on the hand sanitizer thing.... while at my house... say... well.. when there's soap and water... I'd just wash my kids hands... Carrie:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamato3 all-boy boys Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended if my SIL warned me, prepped me, told me ahead of time what she was doing...honestly and being forthcoming is important in those situations. I'd probably be relieved to know that someone else was watching out for buggies besides myself :) I've just had two close homeschooling friends deal with lice over the past week, and last week begged out of our weekly 3-family co-op day. I was feeling surrounded on all sides by lice. Everyone understood because I was upfront about it. ...of course, for Thanksgiving we're the family coming to dinner with the tail end of the flu, so I'll be doing my own wiping down at my MILs so *we* don't spread it to everyone there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) Why would that offend me? One of my sisters is a worrier, so that would not surprise me, and I would accept her need. I might be surprised if my brother did it, but I would not be offended. I would chuckle "Thanks! Goodness knows what the kids drag in". I would also probably say "I hear it's a bad flu season". And see if he wants to talk about it. Everyone goes a little *out there* sometimes, and that is not about me. If ya can't be frealy deaky with your sibs... Goodness knows what my siblings have had to deal with regarding my quirks over the years. (For a time there, I was pregnant or had babies near major winter holidays). lol Edited November 26, 2009 by LibraryLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Fairy Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended, but I have to wonder how helpful it is to wipe off the doorknobs. What about toys, furniture, etc.? I think if you are really worried (and I would be, in those circumstances), you shouldn't go. I know we can't live in a bubble, but the chances are pretty good that someone else in that house is incubating the virus, and even if they don't have symptoms yet they could still be contagious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would tell everyone who listened how obsessive you are. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended, but since I am finding myself in the same position that you are in (only the adult has been sick), I am thinking it is pretty much a lost cause. They LIVE in that house...their germs are in the air all around you. Making sure the kids wash their hands and such is about all you can do, unless you want to wear a mask (and you can't really wear a mask and eat, as one person pointed out in my situation! LOL). Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babysparkler Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended, but I'm not that easily offended. I'd think "Cool! Someone's cleaning my house!" :lol: Seriously, if I had a sick kid and had invited people over, I'd probably clean quite thoroughly and then put the cleaning wipes out myself. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy loves Bud Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Can't you just make sure your family washes hands regularly? If that's not enough for you, then I would say you should probably stay home. JMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thea Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would think it odd. If she's that concerned I don't think she should come to your house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindyg Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Is your SIL easily offended? You know her better than we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) I want to add that I think it's a bit 'out there' to think your kids are never going to get sick, or that they should never get sick. That it's even something you should always try to prevent as a matter of course. If you are very worried and won't feel cmfortable, I don't think you should go.I Edited November 26, 2009 by LibraryLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'd think that if you really wanted to avoid, then you wouldn't go. It's not like there was really enough time to air out the house (something I'd worry more about than wiping off doorknobs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacy in NJ Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended at all, but I would think that if your kids go to the grocery, to pre-school, to music lessons, dance lessons, or any outside sports, that you were driving yourself crazy over something you have very little control over. :001_smile: If you suspect that she may be offended, perhaps it's not worth the wipes? (Or maybe just stay home?) :iagree: Honestly, it is too much. I understand not wanting illness in the family, but unless someone in the family has an autoimmune issue (and then you should stay home) it is a bit obsessive to wipe down the door knobs. Bring some hand sanitizer with you and remind your dc to wash their hands reguarly, but leave the door wipes at home. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyof4ks Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I don't see the problem with bringing wipes, however the toys are likely to be a bigger problem and that would be a mess to clean all of those. Also everyone else in the house has been exposed and the boy is likely still shedding virus, so cleaning surfaces may not really do much. Just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanieZ Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 your SIL brought hand sanitizing wipes to your house to wipe doorknobs off with? Background: my nephew has had the flu complete with vomiting and fever since last weekend. I was told he didn't vomit yesterday (Tuesday) and his fever is gone today (Wednesday.) We are going to their house for Thanksgiving tomorrow. I have stuffed my children full of probiotics, yogurt, D3 and anything else I can think of that's immune boosting. I bought a can of wipes at Jewel today. I plan to wipe off the doorknobs we touch, as well as the bathroom. Would you be offended, or would you understand I don't want my kids to get sick? If I were you, I wouldn't even go. ;) The times we have done it, I've been sorry. Stomach bugs just don't go away in 24-48 hours. . . I wouldn't go if there had been stomach issues for 72 hours. (I wouldn't let them come to my house either!) Normally, I am pretty easy going about illnesses, but stomach bugs are the PITS and are insanely contagious, IME. Runny noses, coughs, colds, no worries. . . but stomach issues, NO WAY! This year, with H1N1, I also wouldn't go (or host) if anyone had a fever for the past 24 hours, (we can't afford for dh to get sick b/c of our business that would grind to a halt if he was out sick. . . and payroll for 12 staff would continue. . . so he CAN'T get sick!!) So, I think you are very brave to go at all. I'd take Lysol and sanitizing wipes, and sanitizing hand rub. . . and pray a lot. Better yet, I'd stay home. Definitely. :) And, if your SIL is offended, she is just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughCollie Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 If someone brings wipes to my house with the intention of disinfecting the door knobs, I'd ask them to include all cabinet knobs, furniture knobs, faucet and toilet handles, too. While they are working, they may as well be thorough. A lack of thoroughness might bother me, but bringing wipes and putting them to good use would not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammaruss Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 If someone brings wipes to my house with the intention of disinfecting the door knobs, I'd ask them to include all cabinet knobs, furniture knobs, faucet and toilet handles, too. While they are working, they may as well be thorough. A lack of thoroughness might bother me, but bringing wipes and putting them to good use would not. LOLOLOL!!!:lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirth Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Yes, I would be. As a guest, I would just skip it if I thought there was this much of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippen Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Yes, I would be. As a guest, I would just skip it if I thought there was this much of a problem. I agree. I think this could cause more hard feelings than skipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestof3 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would completely understand. I think it would be best if you tell her ahead of time. My feelings don't get hurt about things like that, though. But, I would also consider staying home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess in the Burbs Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 if you were coming to my house I wouldn't be offended....just thankful it's you cleaning and not me :-) But I would want an explanation or I would think you are weird :-) Although family can be more awkward than friends I hope you can be honest and offer to help sanitize the place so no one gets sick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Ick, I would not go. Like Stephanie, I think that stomach bugs are worth doing almost anything to avoid! ime, just as one person in the family is getting better, the next one gets it . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrumm4448 Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'm so glad I asked this question! My SIL is not easily offended. We have a very good relationship and she understands me. I am quite normal compared to my brother, whom she is married to. That said, a pp said the virus is in the air in their house, and someone else might be incubating. I agree. I'm not usually so freaky about illness. I just spoke to my SIL yesterday to confirm what I'm bringing to her house (a salad) and she went ON AND ON about how sick the child was, the dr. put him on Tamiflu again, he was vomiting FOREVER, she took two days off work to care for him, how horrible it was. She freaked me out. She did not have a "no big deal" attitude about it. I guess they decided to still have the holiday because he's not vomiting anymore and his fever is gone? We're going to go, but I'm planning my attack. Oil of oregano all around before we go, and I'm bringing it with us. More rounds throughout the day. How long does a virus take to incubate, three days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrumm4448 Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 I realize I sound obsessive, but I just had my carpets cleaned and I have a four-year-old that is always taken by surprise by vomit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jujsky Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'd think that if you really wanted to avoid, then you wouldn't go. It's not like there was really enough time to air out the house (something I'd worry more about than wiping off doorknobs). :iagree: I really would be offended. I'd think it was weird and that she was treating us like dirty, disgusting people. My reaction would be similar to that above: "If you're that bothered by it, why come?" I wouldn't want to host someone who was obviously uncomfortable being there. I would much rather them make their apologies that they're uncomfortable with the possibility of getting sick and can't make it this year than having them come over and wipe everything down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellyndria Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended, but I'm not that easily offended. I'd think "Cool! Someone's cleaning my house!" :lol: :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMA Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'm so glad I asked this question! My SIL is not easily offended. We have a very good relationship and she understands me. I am quite normal compared to my brother, whom she is married to. That said, a pp said the virus is in the air in their house, and someone else might be incubating. I agree. I'm not usually so freaky about illness. I just spoke to my SIL yesterday to confirm what I'm bringing to her house (a salad) and she went ON AND ON about how sick the child was, the dr. put him on Tamiflu again, he was vomiting FOREVER, she took two days off work to care for him, how horrible it was. She freaked me out. She did not have a "no big deal" attitude about it. I guess they decided to still have the holiday because he's not vomiting anymore and his fever is gone? We're going to go, but I'm planning my attack. Oil of oregano all around before we go, and I'm bringing it with us. More rounds throughout the day. How long does a virus take to incubate, three days? Honestly, I wouldn't go then because you are still contagious after the flu for several days, even after the fever is gone. You can pick up the flu from anything. It only takes a cough or a sneeze or a quick touch from someone to pass on the flu. No wiping down will prevent that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheila in OK Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 :iagree: My thoughts exactly. :) I would be thrilled! Because I always feel like such a germ freak, I love it when I see other people acting the way I do. :D Most of my close friends are the same way, so we totally understand. Just tell her "I know you probably think I'm crazy, but I'd rather have that than risk my dc getting sick. Nothing personal." Happy Thanksgiving! ps-dh was at about 4 different stores today, and everytime I talked to him on his cell, I would say "You used your sanitizer, right? You didn't use the store's pen, right?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't be offended, but I would think it was silly and useless. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda1951 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Would not be offended. I wipe down our door handles and counters in the bathrooms and kitchen all the time. and the phone/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laundrycrisis Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would not want to go to the home of anyone that has had "stomach flu", aka norovirus. Did you know that: It is very contagious; It lives on surfaces for a long time; Most people will not develop any immunity to it, so families and individuals can keep reinfecting themselves over and over again, unless all surfaces are cleaned; BLEACH is the recommended agent for killing it on surfaces. Soap and water for hands, because even alcohol does not kill it. So hand sanitizer that is alcohol based is totally ineffective against it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/interviews/interview/838/ http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news-1/Stomach-Flu-Spread-By-Contaminated-Computer-Keyboards-9036-1/ However this brand of wipes can be used on hands, and contains benzethonium chloride, that can kill norovirus: http://writersblock15.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/great-newswet-ones-brand-anti-bacterial-kills-norovirus/ If I did go to their home, I would take my own box of Antibacterial Wet Ones and require my family to use them on their hands before eating or drinking, and remind them no hands in mouth or nose. If I had a little one mouthing toys etc or constantly sticking fingers in mouth, I would probably just not go. If someone was coming to my home in this situation, they would be greeted by the smell of bleach at the front door because I wipe everything down....but I would not be offended if they wanted to do it themselves, or brought their own wipes for their own hands. I would even offer them a box if they didn't have their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendi Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't go to a home where someone is that sick, or has been that sick within the past 48 hours. I think it's odd that she's still planning it and expecting people to come! If I were her, I wouldn't expect anyone to expose themselves to this illness. Wendi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPlaceLikeHome Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would just be wiping their hands often with hand sanitizer gel or wipes. I do that when my ds is at co-op and I just make a joke about it and say "cold prevention." I just cannot afford to get sick again since the last time I was sick for 8 weeks:001_huh:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgm Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't bring over anyone over to your SIL's dinner that is in the risk group, nor would I give them any leftovers from the meal. But that's me. I had one child who was in the risk group contract flu so far (rapidtest confirmation) and the precautions taken at the Dr.'s office were facemask and handwashing. At home, no one else was in the risk group and none have contracted the flu. We didn't wear masks, isolate the child from the rest of the household, or do anything beyond the normal handwashing and no sharing of cups/utensils/towels/personals and the standard wash sheets/ditch tootbrush once the flu passed. I agree totally with laundrycrisis. I actually find out who made what dish, and avoid the known 'stomach flu' households' contributions. I also do not eat anything that has been made the night before and reheated, because I know that my inlaws do not follow food safety rules. The harder thing that I've learned is not to eat any premade meals frozen foods that are served, b/c chances are that they were allowed to thaw on the counter rather than remain frozen and go into the oven. I feed my children before we go make our appearances...easy as the meals are at odd times anyway and my oldest understands the risks from not following food safety rules. Edited November 26, 2009 by lgm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaichiki Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 your SIL brought hand sanitizing wipes to your house to wipe doorknobs off with? Background: my nephew has had the flu complete with vomiting and fever since last weekend. I was told he didn't vomit yesterday (Tuesday) and his fever is gone today (Wednesday.) We are going to their house for Thanksgiving tomorrow. I have stuffed my children full of probiotics, yogurt, D3 and anything else I can think of that's immune boosting. I bought a can of wipes at Jewel today. I plan to wipe off the doorknobs we touch, as well as the bathroom. Would you be offended, or would you understand I don't want my kids to get sick? I think I would prefer her to bring a Lysol spray and get more than just the doorknobs... How nice of someone to help me disinfect around here... Nobody EVER helps me with that! (Some people in my family don't "believe" in germs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaichiki Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wouldn't go to a home where someone is that sick, or has been that sick within the past 48 hours. I think it's odd that she's still planning it and expecting people to come! If I were her, I wouldn't expect anyone to expose themselves to this illness. Wendi :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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