DawnM Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Zoobie posted this and I just thought it deserved its own thread and discussion What in the WORLD is going on in that upstairs apartment???? Now I need to know! https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/709-Michaelmas-Ave-Cayce-SC-29033/11213633_zpid/ Mother in Law? Ghosts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I would not touch that house with a ten foot pole. An existing renter, who does not pay, but must be maintained. And I don't get to see the whole house? no thanks. The price is not cheap enough for that. My parents are putting a fairly nice house on the market in West Columbia, SC for the same price. Without those drawbacks Edited May 9, 2017 by vonfirmath 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-rap Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Whoa, that is really weird! I wonder if that requirement holds true even if you buy the house and it's yours? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerine Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I'm house hunting right now, and I've come across several foreclosed properties that say "no showings, do not bother occupant", and essentially "once you buy the house getting them evicted is your problem." I wonder if there's a similar situation going on. Edited May 9, 2017 by Tangerine 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIN MOUSA Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I appreciate the parenthetical note. (Yes, it does not make sense, please don't bother asking.) Bonus points for acknowledging the oddness??? :lol: But seriously, nope. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 Yeah, I keep wondering who in their right minds would buy a house like this? My guess is that it is indeed way overpriced for the area. If you fixed it up could you ever get out of it what you put in? My guess is that the answer would be no. For $60K MAYBE, but even then, the upstairs tenant would have to go. It might take a wrecking ball, but it would have to happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The real estate agent seems terribly frustrated by the situation. I wonder what that first meeting between the owner and the agency was like. "O.k. I have this house I want to sell. It needs a lot of work but I am not able to put in that work so I wish to sell it "as is". Oh, by the way, I have a tenant with a contract that pays no rent living upstairs. They won't be moving out and no one who looks at the property can look inside that area of the house. I have no idea what the condition of that area of the house is. The person who buys the property will have to deal with the person who is living upstairs rent free. I'm thinking I can get at least $140,000...." :blink: 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 The real estate agent seems terribly frustrated by the situation. I wonder what that first meeting between the owner and the agency was like. "O.k. I have this house I want to sell. It needs a lot of work but I am not able to put in that work so I wish to sell it "as is". Oh, by the way, I have a tenant with a contract that pays no rent living upstairs. They won't be moving out and no one who looks at the property can look inside that area of the house. I have no idea what the condition of that area of the house is. The person who buys the property will have to deal with the person who is living upstairs rent free. I'm thinking I can get at least $140,000...." :blink: I am surprised any realtor would take it on! But I do imagine that is what transpired. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paige Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I'm house hunting right now, and I've come across several foreclosed properties that say "no showings, do not bother occupant", and essentially "once you buy the house getting them evicted is your problem." I wonder if there's a similar situation going on. We have a situation where a family member has legal documents drawn up that another family member may live in an apartment for the rest of her life unless she marries and gets the property upon the death of the owner. This is part of the will of the previous co-owner. I wonder if it's something like this and the property must be sold with that clause included. My vote is ghosts, aliens, or dead bodies hidden up there. I wouldn't buy that if it were $1! Edited May 9, 2017 by Paige 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I saw someone share this the other day. And then I saw several people share other odd listings. One where part of the house had not been opened for decades. Another where the house was said to be haunted. I'm telling you... there's a short story in these things. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um_2_4 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Odd house, but those "conditions" might not even be enforceable. We looked at buying several tenant occupied houses and since we were moving in, they would have to move out by closing in CA. Now if we wanted to buy one to rent, then we would assume the lease, but I HIGHLY doubt the lease says "$0" rent. So the minute they don't pay, you can leave a 5 day "pay or quit" notice basically. But still WAY overpriced I have a feeling..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Ummm... did anyone watch last week's Doctor Who? It was one of those cautionary house hunting tales, where if it's too good to be true, it's probably hosting an alien species that eats people. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) The listing price should be the amount they will pay someone to take that megamess off their hands! No one in their right mind would buy that place, existing tenant et al. Edited May 9, 2017 by Seasider 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Odd house, but those "conditions" might not even be enforceable. We looked at buying several tenant occupied houses and since we were moving in, they would have to move out by closing in CA. Now if we wanted to buy one to rent, then we would assume the lease, but I HIGHLY doubt the lease says "$0" rent. So the minute they don't pay, you can leave a 5 day "pay or quit" notice basically. But still WAY overpriced I have a feeling..... I was wondering if perhaps the sellers just do not have the funds to put into a legal battle trying to evict a non-paying tenant. Pacific Heights, anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz4me Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Umm . . .picture 17. . .that's red paint, right? Just paint? I saw someone share this the other day. And then I saw several people share other odd listings. One where part of the house had not been opened for decades. Another where the house was said to be haunted. I'm telling you... there's a short story in these things. I'm thinking they'd make for a good HGTV series. ;) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Umm . . .picture 17. . .that's red paint, right? Just paint? I'm thinking they'd make for a good HGTV series. ;) :lol: Yep. And yeah, the red paint did give me pause... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 That is SO BIZARRE! Thanks for sharing, I'll be wondering about it all day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 That is SO BIZARRE! Thanks for sharing, I'll be wondering about it all day! I was truly worried that people had nothing better to do today. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkie Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 That is freaky. Now I'm curious whether anyone will actually buy it... Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellifera33 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Weird. When we were looking for our first house we expressed interest in a house that looked a little overgrown, but basically okay. We asked our realtor, who spoke to their realtor, who told us that we couldn't actually see the house unless we bought it. A relative of the deceased owner was occupying it, and chased away anyone who tried to see it. The kids, who had been willed the house, were trying to sell it, but were having a hard time evicting the weird cousin or whatever, and figured whoever bought the house could do it. Um, yeah. The house was on the market forever. They wanted market price for a house that could be shown and didn't come with a weird cousin, not a "grab-bag" price, which is what it warranted, being a grab-bag house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I notice they never actually said it was a person living there—just an occupant... :leaving: 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Truly bizarre. What a shame. From the outside, it looks like a house I would want to see, also seems there is a good-sized lot but what on earth could be the situation with the upstairs area? I wonder if anyone will even bother to look at it. The main area appears to be in great need of TLC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I notice they never actually said it was a person living there—just an occupant... :leaving: A family of rodents who don't pay rent? I had those too at one point. :laugh: Maybe the rodents were taking too many baths and flooded the upstairs - hence the water damage downstairs. If the downstairs has water damage, would it not mean there is some kind of "water" problem upstairs in the mysterious apartment nobody can see? Edited May 9, 2017 by Liz CA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Umm . . .picture 17. . .that's red paint, right? Just paint? I was wondering about that too. Read too many mysteries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The street name is cute. It makes me think of Jane Austen :-). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerine Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) The street name is cute. It makes me think of Jane Austen :-). I look at houses and always think about what it would be like to give people my address. Since I'm in the thick of it now, I've noticed it more. There's a neighborhood I've looked at with authors as street names. But not just "Dickens Rd." The street names are FULL names. James Fenimore Cooper Lane. John Greenleaf Whittier Place. On one hand, I think it is awesome. On the other, I feel like it would require a lot of spelling or explanation when giving your address. Fermilab has a neighborhood with a house for sale on Quark Court. I would sound like a complete idiot every time I tried to say Quark Court out loud. Edited May 9, 2017 by Tangerine 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madteaparty Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Guys! It's a mad, estranged wife! I read about this somewhere 😂 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Who wants to go to SC and get murdered? I'm not liking the over/under on if it's a Mrs. Bates type situation. That also doesn't seem like much of a discount for a non-paying tenant with a lease that entitles them to stay. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Guys! It's a mad, estranged wife! I read about this somewhere 😂 I'm so glad I wasn't the only one whose brain went there :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Is the seller named Mr. Rochester? That is just weird. The thing is, it clearly has been a rental, which means the owner is going to also pay capital gains on the place (I think) so even if he DID get $130K (choking), he has to pay a 20% tax on the difference. I don't even know how someone gets into a mess like this, but if I were this guy...boy, you can't just walk away...there are still the property taxes. And who knows what is liability is with the .... tenant. Ugh. And creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm thinking the current owners would need to pay someone to take it off their hands! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaluv+2more Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 https://hotpads.com/709-michaelmas-ave-cayce-sc-29033-1jtg3wt/pad What a difference a few months make? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamanthaCarter Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Median sales price for homes in West Columbia/Cayce is around $107k. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamanthaCarter Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 https://hotpads.com/709-michaelmas-ave-cayce-sc-29033-1jtg3wt/pad What a difference a few months make? Ohh! A hint: "upstairs is occupied by a professional artist." I vote crazy aunt or uncle who was willed into the lease. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 My DH said the listing should read "please buy this lawsuit". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I notice they never actually said it was a person living there—just an occupant... :leaving: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Who wants to go to SC and get murdered? So, so tempting. Unfortunately, I have to find a place to live *here* by the end of the month, so I don't have time for field trips. If it was near me though, I would seriously consider contacting the realtor and get him to show me the lower parts of the house (and the actual terms of the upper occupant's lease). So, so, curious. Not that I'd buy it... I mean, maybe if it cost the same as our previous house... which was about 1/10th of the asking price for this house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyGF Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Ohh! A hint: "upstairs is occupied by a professional artist." I vote crazy aunt or uncle who was willed into the lease. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'd bet there is some family unrest/problem in here. Emily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 LOL Upstairs apartment cannot be shown under any circumstances. What kind of weirdness is that!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 LOL Upstairs apartment cannot be shown under any circumstances. What kind of weirdness is that!!! And it says not to ask. That should be potential buyer's FIRST question! Who the heck lives there and why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Oh geesh and then there is more after.... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 That's the craziest thing I have ever seen/read! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well hot damn, if I lived closer I'd be going there to check this out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 "Upstairs apartment cannot be shown under any circumstances." ​Oh, okay, they don't want the liability of someone falling through the sketchy floorboards. "Buyer assumes responsibility for the month-to-month tenancy in the upstairs apartment." What in the heck?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Makes me wonder if they are even talking about a human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermom Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Why would they include photos at all, when it all looks really, really bad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawyer&Mom Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I don't understand how you can have both a month-to-month tenancy and a lease. With my admittedly minimal knowledge of property law, I would think it would be one or the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamanthaCarter Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I don't understand how you can have both a month-to-month tenancy and a lease. With my admittedly minimal knowledge of property law, I would think it would be one or the other. Glad I'm not the only one confused by that. The whole thing is baffling. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I don't understand how you can have both a month-to-month tenancy and a lease. With my admittedly minimal knowledge of property law, I would think it would be one or the other. Maybe the tenant has the right to break the lease with 30 days at at time but the owner doesn't. I wonder if the serinherited this property from a crazy relative and is just stuck with it. Can you refuse to accept something left you in a will? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I don't understand how you can have both a month-to-month tenancy and a lease. With my admittedly minimal knowledge of property law, I would think it would be one or the other. They could be poorly explaining person holding over at the end of the lease, which automatically creates a month-to-month tenancy. Maybe? So...starving artist in the upstairs, severe roof leaks going on, and whoever the last downstairs tenant was, they left a mess. Not for $130K. I wouldn't buy that hot mess for $130K if it was in a lovely bit of central Phoenix metro area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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