juelle Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 It's dd's birthday. Everyone dresses up and has a party for her, and I don't even have to plan! People just look blank if I say she was born on Reformation Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Thank you all for the help. I have been sincerely trying to figure this out. Same with some messianic friends who think that Christmas is evil because of its pagan origins. It's just a load of baloney. Halloween is not about worshiping evil, Christmas is not about worshiping evil. The Bible even contains examples of incorporating pagan culture to win people to Christ. It's not pagans we need to be afraid of, it's the judgment and ugliness in our own hearts. People just want something to villify. If you google "Danielle Bean on trading in Reformation Day for Halloween" you will find a good article on Halloween from the Catholic perspective. If they do their research they will find out it was never about worshiping evil or false gods. So you are fine either way. There was also a sense that this was the time of year when the physical and supernatural worlds were closest and magical things could happen.[13][14] The souls of the dead were supposed to revisit their homes on Samhain eve. [15] To ward off these spirits, the Gaels built huge, symbolically regenerative bonfires and invoked the help of the gods through animal and perhaps even human sacrifice.[11] In the Western Isles of Scotland the Sluagh, or fairy host was regarded as composed of the souls of the dead flying through the air, and the feast of the dead at Hallowe'en was likewise the festival of the fairies.[16] Also this: It was traditionally believed that the souls of the departed wandered the earth until All Saints' Day, and All Hallows' Eve provided one last chance for the dead to gain vengeance on their enemies before moving onto the next world.[20] To avoid being recognised by a soul, Christians would wear masks and costumes to disguise themselves, following the lighted candles set by others to guide their travel for worship the next day.[20] Today, this practice has been perpetuated through children guising (trick or treating).[20] ~Wikipedia History of Halloween From Colossians 2:8: See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. 1 Corinthians 10:18-21 1Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? Do I mean then that a sacrifice offered to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons. 1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The public school here handled it by not having school that day!Then they are celebrating by having the day off! :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagira Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Trunk or treat. Sigh. That said, we're Christian and enjoy all the costumes, scary stuff, we all go trick or treating as a family.. You get the picture. As a teen, she used to hold a really scary Haunted House for the community. His birthday is a few days before, and he loves skulls, morbid things, pirates, Egyptian history, The Book of the Dead. He thinks Halloween haters are ridiculous. However, he thinks the trunk or treaters are worse ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangermom Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I don't know...are your neighbors handing out birthday cake? Ooo! I hope so! :D Yeah, probably not. But I'm hoping for a special treat this year, as my husband has offered to get me a nice cake, from a bakery and everything. Fancy! (My MIL once handed out baggies of chicken salad. She claimed it was all she could come up with at the time. I'll bet someone nearby could whip up a little cake with a couple hours notice.) :lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Donning my flame retardant suit.... So as some of you know, I work at a Christian school. About 75% of our students are professing Christians or are being raised by Christian parents. Still, I would say we are moderately conservative and not "fundies". We do, however, have a few extremely conservative parents and we always keep them in mind when making decisions in an effort to avoid offending them. So in our weekly leadership meeting we had to decide on the yearly request by some group or another to have ... You guessed it... A Halloween party on campus. Sigh. Well, the usual discussion ensued. Honestly, maybe I am just too old and cranky but this topic is so old and boring. The ideas... Let's not call it a Halloween party. We'll just say it is a costume party! (really? A costume party, with candy, coincidentally held on or very near Oct. 31? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...) Let's have a harvest party! (really? When is the last time any of us harvested anything and if you say we are harvesting souls I will punch you in the throat.) But my favorite... Let's call it a Hallelujah party! (A WHAT? Are you serious??? A hallelujah party??? What is a hallelujah party? Honestly, it makes me embarassed to be associated with Christians when they say stuff like that. And we wonder why people make fun of us!!! I know! Let's all dress up like ghosts and we will call it a Halle-BOO-jah party! No one will suspect! They will think we are still holy! I think I am going to hurl. :banghead: ) At least those who have reformation parties are celebrating an actual thing! Seriously, I don't care if you don't celebrate Halloween. I don't celebrate it because costumes are too expensive here and I am too lazy to make one. If you feel strongly about it, fine. But don't make up some RIDICULOUS alternate name for the party and then pretend like you are not "really" celebrating Halloween. Just buy some candy and eat it without guilt because that's all we really want anyways. And stop EMBARASSING the rest of us. :glare: I am sure this offends some of you but I am too exhausted from today's meeting about this topic to really care that much. Maybe tomorrow... :tongue_smilie: . Bahahaha! Thank you SO much for this post. Made me lol while I'm dealing with this issue myself. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 If you're having a get-together on October 31 and it's not your 50th wedding anniversary or your birthday, it's a Halloween Party. Like the costumes and candy weren't already dead giveaways. ;) End of story. I have a friend who got married on Halloween and gave birth to her daughter the following Halloween. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrightmom Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 :lol: I agree with you. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytwomonkeys Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) :iagree: I think Harvest parties are cool.... "celebrating Halloween" is celebrating evil to me. Dressing in silly costumes, handing out candy, carving pumpkins, hayrack rides... I can do those without glorifying things I consider evil. This is how I feel as well. My family isnt celebrating the roots of Halloween. Whatever it originally meant has changed for most people (this is true for so many things!). Some people tell me christmas trees are evil or easter eggs are satanic. Again, that is not a social norm. Halloween is a time when we go to a festival that is put on by the local firemen to raise money. Our kids dress up in costumes that are fun and not scary. We play games, have a hayride, do a cake walk. We eat food and enjoy our family time. In places we have lived previously, we enjoyed fall festivals. They were free and fun! It bothers me when other Christians imply my walk with God is somehow less than theirs for making choices that dont affirm their own. In those situations, if we actually start to compare, there are other areas that they seem rather hypocritical in almost always. i find it sad that these types of things create so much judgment and division. Edited October 10, 2012 by mytwomonkeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 :iagree: I think Harvest parties are cool.... "celebrating Halloween" is celebrating evil to me. Dressing in silly costumes, handing out candy, carving pumpkins, hayrack rides... I can do those without glorifying things I consider evil. That's me, evil to the core. *snort* :rolleyes: Nothing summons Satan to a party like tiny little packages of Smarties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex-mex Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 :chillpill: I think you're the one who needs to be embarassed for your poor behavior and witness by publicly gossiping about your fellow brothers & sisters in Christ. I don't agree with them but I agree with you even less. Seems you like to point out how so many Christians are doing things you disagree with in order to make yourself more popular with fringe/nominal Christians or non Christians. Feel better? :glare: Yikes. While I do not always agree with Heather's threads... I think she is using the WTM boards for stress release or support. (My only genuine concern for Heather is that a parent or staff member of her private school can trace these posts on Google or such. But Heather is a big girl and I think she can deal with that issue.) You need to :chillpill:, in my opinion. :D Feel free to ignore threads if it offends you or whatever. Variety is the spice of life here on the WTM forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsey Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 There was also a sense that this was the time of year when the physical and supernatural worlds were closest and magical things could happen.[13][14] The souls of the dead were supposed to revisit their homes on Samhain eve. [15] To ward off these spirits, the Gaels built huge, symbolically regenerative bonfires and invoked the help of the gods through animal and perhaps even human sacrifice.[11] In the Western Isles of Scotland the Sluagh, or fairy host was regarded as composed of the souls of the dead flying through the air, and the feast of the dead at Hallowe'en was likewise the festival of the fairies.[16] Also this: It was traditionally believed that the souls of the departed wandered the earth until All Saints' Day, and All Hallows' Eve provided one last chance for the dead to gain vengeance on their enemies before moving onto the next world.[20] To avoid being recognised by a soul, Christians would wear masks and costumes to disguise themselves, following the lighted candles set by others to guide their travel for worship the next day.[20] Today, this practice has been perpetuated through children guising (trick or treating).[20] ~Wikipedia History of Halloween From Colossians 2:8: See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. 1 Corinthians 10:18-21 1Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? Do I mean then that a sacrifice offered to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons. 1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Do you let your children have candles on their birthday cake? Letting them make a wish? You know this is magic, right? Are you allowing them to practice pagan wiles and therefore insulting your deity? Or, are you just engaging in a fun tradition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovetoread Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 ! I know! Let's all dress up like ghosts and we will call it a Halle-BOO-jah party! No one will suspect! They will think we are still holy! I think I am going to hurl. ) :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I agree with you. Laughing about the HalleBOOjah party. Anyway, why don't you just have a Reformation party, if it is a Christian school (or will that offend some)? Not all Christians are Protestants. :001_huh: That's supposed to be a costume? :001_huh: I about fell on the floor laughing. There was also a sense that this was the time of year when the physical and supernatural worlds were closest and magical things could happen.[13][14] The souls of the dead were supposed to revisit their homes on Samhain eve. [15] To ward off these spirits, the Gaels built huge, symbolically regenerative bonfires and invoked the help of the gods through animal and perhaps even human sacrifice.[11] In the Western Isles of Scotland the Sluagh, or fairy host was regarded as composed of the souls of the dead flying through the air, and the feast of the dead at Hallowe'en was likewise the festival of the fairies.[16] Also this: It was traditionally believed that the souls of the departed wandered the earth until All Saints' Day, and All Hallows' Eve provided one last chance for the dead to gain vengeance on their enemies before moving onto the next world.[20] To avoid being recognised by a soul, Christians would wear masks and costumes to disguise themselves, following the lighted candles set by others to guide their travel for worship the next day.[20] Today, this practice has been perpetuated through children guising (trick or treating).[20] ~Wikipedia History of Halloween Sorry, your source is incorrect. (That is the problem with Wiki) There was no feast of Hallowe'en (or Halloween) celebrated by Pagans of Europe. If Celts celebrated anything they celebrated Samhain. Halloween is RC's All Hallows Eve, followed by The Feast of All Saints. (Actually a solemnity not a feast) The word Hallowe'een is a ba$tardization of the words All Hallows Eve. And no, it wasn't the Christians (or at least not only the Christians) who would wear the masks to disguise themselves when traveling after dark to church or not. Samhain is older than Christianity. You really need to quote a plausible source or do a bit of research yourself into the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 :iagree: I think Harvest parties are cool.... "celebrating Halloween" is celebrating evil to me. Dressing in silly costumes, handing out candy, carving pumpkins, hayrack rides... I can do those without glorifying things I consider evil. Perhaps you should research the roots of ancient harvest parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 My FAVORITE name so far for a "Halloween Party" (drum roll please.............) HOLY GHOST WEENIE ROAST Some church in the Raleigh/Durham area does this. I used to hear it on the radio every year. I think "Fall Party" or "Fall Carnival" suffices....if you must do it. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: That is the best name ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I am on linear mode. Who are you responding to? The OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 This is my third October at the Hive and this is my favorite controversial Halloween thread. :) Totally agree, Heather, but then again, I'm one of those "nominal" Christians who gets my kids evil costumes and lets them trick or treat. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Marple Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 My FAVORITE name so far for a "Halloween Party" (drum roll please.............) HOLY GHOST WEENIE ROAST . :lol::lol::lol: Too many funny ideas associated with THAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becca211 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Of COURSE it's a chicken! It's all dressed up in a duck costume for the Halle-Boo-ia party, thankful that it isn't a Holy Ghost Chicken Roast. :leaving: :lol: That is so funny!!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Fairy Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I find these "stupid (insert type--whoever disagrees with me) Christians, ha ha ha" threads distasteful, and I don't even have a problem with Halloween. Does every single post read like that, no--but plenty do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafdog Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 My FAVORITE name so far for a "Halloween Party" (drum roll please.............) HOLY GHOST WEENIE ROAST Some church in the Raleigh/Durham area does this. I used to hear it on the radio every year. I'm an atheist, and I'm totally stealing this for my Halloween Party this year. Awesome. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth in MN Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The schools here don't do anything around October 31. In December there is a Winter Recital with songs and the like. People will complain to me about how the kids don't sing Christmas songs. My response? "You can have Christmas back when I get Halloween back". Halloween is my favorite holiday of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDays Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I don't have a problem with harvest parties, and I don't think that makes me not authentic. However, I do live in the midwest, and harvest is still a way of life here... even in the cities, it's not as if you're far removed from it. We don't do haunted houses or scary/gross costumes, but that's us. I think church parties and "trunk or treat" and things like that let more people participate... people who don't like being around the "ghoulish" stuff, or people with small children who might be easily frightened. I think "Halle-boo-jah" party takes things too far into the "me thinks they doth protest too much" category, though. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Wait. When you do ritual, you don't don a sexy costume?? Are you doing it right?? :D :001_huh: I'm supposed to wear something for ritual? :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAMom Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Your snark is completely off the mark. :001_rolleyes: Heather is popular with me for our shared passion for fashion -- specifically shoes and handbags. Hey! I can join that club, right? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 That's me, evil to the core. *snort* :rolleyes: Nothing summons Satan to a party like tiny little packages of Smarties. :lol::lol::lol::lol: Sounds terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I really didn't know the Holy Ghost had a weenie, until now. The things you learn on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davysmom Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davysmom Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 My FAVORITE name so far for a "Halloween Party" (drum roll please.............) HOLY GHOST WEENIE ROAST Some church in the Raleigh/Durham area does this. I used to hear it on the radio every year. I think "Fall Party" or "Fall Carnival" suffices....if you must do it. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davysmom Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 :001_huh: I'm supposed to wear something for ritual? :001_huh: I used to joke with a wiccan friend back when I became a Christian that I had no choice, everyone is much better off if I am a conservative Christian with modest cloths than heading off to Wiccan rituals like she was in the buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I really didn't know the Holy Ghost had a weenie, until now. The things you learn on this board. Time to break out the windex and clean my screen! :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 :001_huh: I'm supposed to wear something for ritual? :001_huh: Sky clad is good but maybe our magick would work better with pasties? :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyKapers Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I really didn't know the Holy Ghost had a weenie, until now. The things you learn on this board. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I really didn't know the Holy Ghost had a weenie, until now. The things you learn on this board. Oh, the things I could say in reply to this. But I won't. Because I'm trying really, really hard not to offend anyone. *twitch* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I added a tag then realized it was a misuse of tags. blasphemy The Holy Ghost IS GOD. (Acts 5) Hallelujah praises HIS HOLY NAME and I don't find much of this funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamajag Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 But don't make up some RIDICULOUS alternate name for the party and then pretend like you are not "really" celebrating Halloween. Just buy some candy and eat it without guilt because that's all we really want anyways. And stop EMBARASSING the rest of us. :glare: I just read this paragraph in David Tennant's voice. This is a rant that is Doctor worthy. Halloween is my favorite holiday. Go buy a bag or two of candy and watch movies. DH (not the kids) is who insists on trick or treating...so when he's not in town for it we take the short cut and get the GOOD stuff for ourselves. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanchGirl Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Oh, the things I could say in reply to this. But I won't. Because I'm trying really, really hard not to offend anyone. *twitch* ok... so snorting at me is NOT trying to offend. got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanchGirl Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Perhaps you should research the roots of ancient harvest parties. I'm not involved in ancient harvest parties. I do come from a family of farmers who were pretty dang happy when the harvest was over. Why is that not ok with people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlifemom Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Breathe, everyone breathe. [sigh] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamzanne Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I totally agree with the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) ok... so snorting at me is NOT trying to offend. got it. Ah, and I believe you were the one who called Halloween "a celebration of evil," if I remember correctly? Sorry, but that deserves a snort at the very least. Edited October 11, 2012 by Mergath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elinor Everywhere Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 How about calling it an "All Hallow's Eve" Party but shortening it to "Halloween"? :lol::lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2boysmom Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) I personally think Halloween is fun and I don't have a problem with people celebrating it (Preface) But.....What's wrong with enjoying "halloween" but toning it down a little? Some kids need a "milder" version. And this satifies the parents. Its probably not wise for a Christian school to have a bunch a kids in witches costumes, etc. to at school. It seems appropriate then for people who want to highlight the enjoyable things of halloween like candy, fun, family, games, etc. What's wrong with that? As an administrator, (the OP) you should know you go where your people want to go. It's the "people's" school right? If that's where they want to go, then recognize it and celebrate it instead of bash them and Christians on this board. That is kind of a bad thing IMO. Edited October 10, 2012 by 2boysmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The problem is we have for too long conformed to this world. We think we are missing out on something or our kids are missing out if we don't celebrate pagan holidays. If there is one thing I've learned over the past few years it is that living a Christian life is not about storing up as much happiness on Earth as can be desired and chasing after our dreams ... it is about following what God has commanded us and where He is leading. We are no better off than the Israelites in most of the Old Testament worshipping Idols at every turn ... why are we STILL worshipping idols? As my 2nd grader would say - why are they still worshipping idols, haven't they learned not to do that? *sigh* And some non-Christians would say that Christians worship idols...ALL Christians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) There was also a sense that this was the time of year when the physical and supernatural worlds were closest and magical things could happen.[13][14] The souls of the dead were supposed to revisit their homes on Samhain eve. [15] To ward off these spirits, the Gaels built huge, symbolically regenerative bonfires and invoked the help of the gods through animal and perhaps even human sacrifice.[11] In the Western Isles of Scotland the Sluagh, or fairy host was regarded as composed of the souls of the dead flying through the air, and the feast of the dead at Hallowe'en was likewise the festival of the fairies.[16] Also this: It was traditionally believed that the souls of the departed wandered the earth until All Saints' Day, and All Hallows' Eve provided one last chance for the dead to gain vengeance on their enemies before moving onto the next world.[20] To avoid being recognised by a soul, Christians would wear masks and costumes to disguise themselves, following the lighted candles set by others to guide their travel for worship the next day.[20] Today, this practice has been perpetuated through children guising (trick or treating).[20] ~Wikipedia History of Halloween From Colossians 2:8: See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. 1 Corinthians 10:18-21 1Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? Do I mean then that a sacrifice offered to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons. 1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. 'Your Wikipedia links don't suport any evil worshipping. I respect the choice not celebrate it in regards to the idol argument though. Not my takr but I get it Edited October 10, 2012 by WishboneDawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 So, do you all use alternate names for the months, since those have ancient pagan roots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanvan Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 This is my third October at the Hive and this is my favorite controversial Halloween thread. :) Totally agree, Heather, but then again, I'm one of those "nominal" Christians who gets my kids evil costumes and lets them trick or treat. ;) So funny b/c I thought I was one of those fringe/nominal Christians b/c I agree with Heather and find the whole re-naming of Halloween silly. And yet we don't do anything for Halloween. We're like the previous poster who said her family watched a movie. I think this years thread has managed to add a new twist on the conversation. Now I know that you can be a nominal Christian if you do celebrate Halloween and if you don't. The non-halloweeners and the pro-halloweeners have been brought together!:hurray: PS I usually just don't comment lest I offend anyone, but I couldn't resist. I have mixed feelings on the whole thing anyway.....but I do share a lot of the frustrations Heather expressed in her original post. ETA: I can see the point of people wanting something toned down for young kids who might be scared. I hadn't thought about that b/c we just didn't bother when our kids were young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I really didn't know the Holy Ghost had a weenie, until now. The things you learn on this board. That idea raises some quite serious theological problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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