Random: Do YOU pronounce the "T"??

[Heather in Neverland]

... in words like

 

Often (Of-ten? or Off-en?)

 

Interesting (in-ter-es-ting or inner-esting?)

 

Sentence (sen-tence? or sen-nence?)

 

 

OK, one more but not with a T...

 

Kin-der-gar-ten or kinner-garden?

 

Random, I know, but I am watching a course from The Teaching Company and this lecturer keeps saying "sennence" instead of "sentence" and it is driving me batty. Maybe it's regional?

 

But it could be just me. :tongue_smilie:

 

 

 

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[AndyJoy]

I pronounce the "T" in all of them, except I think I am inconsistent with "often". And yes, I pronounce the "D" in "kindergarten."

[theYoungerMrsWarde]

Yes. (Raised in California and Alaska.) Though I have a few times been complemented on my accent :confused:

[fraidycat]

I pronounce the "T" in all of them, except I think I am inconsistent with "often". And yes, I pronounce the "D" in "kindergarten."

 

This. Exactly. Sometimes a "t" in often, sometimes not. The rest are pronounced as spelled.

[Annie]

I pronounce the t (or d) in all of them except for often. I would say I'm probably 50/50 on that one. I'm from the upper Midwest.

[BakersDozen]

"T" pronouncer here! I make my dc crazy when I stop them mid-sentence so they can repeat a word correctly. Today's focus word was "to" rather than "tuh".

[Tammi K]

I make my dc crazy when I stop them mid-sentence so they can repeat a word correctly. Today's focus word was "to" rather than "tuh".

 

How about 'gunna'?

[OnTheBrink]

I can't stand it when people don't pronounce the T in button or mountain or mitten.

 

Buh-in

Mow-in

Mih-in

 

:banghead:

 

To answer the question, I don't pronounce the T in often, but I do in the other words listed.

[Mom2Es]

I don't pronounce the t in often because my third grade teacher had a serious peeve about people who pronounce the t in that word. She drilled it into us that we should never pronounce the t in often. And she was scary, so... (Actually, that led me to look it up, and without the /t/ is how it was for a very long time in British English and with the /t/ is more recent. It follows the same pattern as hasten, fasten, soften)

 

As for the others:

InTeresting

Sentence can go either way. I probably say it without the t more often, but when I'm talking to my kids, who can't spell, I am usually careful to say it with the t sound.

I always say the 'd' sound in kindergarten.

[lailasmum]

I pronounce the t in all of those examples.

[In the Rain]

The t in often is probably 50/50. I can't figure out a pattern to when I use it though. I think I hit all the letters in kindergarten and sentence. I don't think I've heard sennence before.

[Cassy]

I always pronounce the 't' in all of those words.

[Laura Corin]

Bearing in mind that I'm a darn Brit:

 

I say a T in almost all of those words. For some reason I go back and forth with 'often'.

 

How do you pronounce 'forehead'? I was brought up to say 'foh-red' (short 'o') but hear 'fore-head' more often these days.

 

Laura

[Joyofsixreboot]

In professional speech I pronounce it. In everyday life I do not offen say the "t" in inneresting sennences. I'm gonna git tuh it tho.

[BugsMama]

I pronounce the "t" in all of those. Southern California raised.

[Hoot]

I pronounce the "t" in all of those except kindergarten.

[MamaT]

I pronounce the "t" in all of those, except often. I was taught that it is silent in that particular word. That was in the late 60's, and I think it is okay either way now.

[kolamum]

Yes.

[TravelingChris]

I say a t in everything except often. I grew up in Virginia but have now lived all over America and overseas.

[Jan in SC]

I pronounce the "t" in all of those, except often. I was taught that it is silent in that particular word. That was in the late 60's, and I think it is okay either way now.

 

It is silent!!!! -

[Cassy]

It is silent!!!! -

 

You're right. I just looked it up in my Oxford Dictionary of English. I still prefer to pronounce the 't' though :001_smile:.

[kewb]

I pronounce the "T" in all of them, except I think I am inconsistent with "often". And yes, I pronounce the "D" in "kindergarten."

 

 

:iagree: Same here.

[Night Elf]

often, interesting, sentence: yes, I pronounce the t

 

kindergarten - I say kindergarden :blush:

 

The dictionary has this for often: /ˈôf(t)ən, which I take to mean the t is optional, right?

[AvasMom]

Yes, I pronounce them and make my kids do the same. I'm even pickier about it since we moved to Kentucky a couple of months ago. *twitch twitch*

[Mom22ns]

I pronounce the Ts in those words, although, sometimes often can become a slurred offen. Kindergarten is kindergarden (in fact I was an adult before I could spell that word correctly).

[Pamela H in Texas]

T sounds in often, sentence, and interesting every time.

But I say "kindergarden."

No T sounds in hasten, fasten, and soften.

Inconsistent T sounds in button, mitten, and mountain. I can't figure out why though! There doesn't seem to be a pattern.

 

I will say we enunciate a LOT with so many littles. My little people came to us with the worst speech and grammar.

The issue this week is saying "bee-sep" for except. It used to be "uh-ten" for pretend also. BLAH!

 

And now we have two toddlers so try to be careful about pronunciation. Monkey really enunciates most things, almost to an extreme. She has a definite /w/ at the end of wow. Cup is almost two syllables because of the sounded p at the end (btw, she can now spell cup also!). Oh, but to make this relevant to the conversation, she has almost no /t/ in the middle of BOTTLE. We regularly mess up ball/bottle because she says them SO similarly (though not exactly the same).

Edited September 25, 2012 by 2J5M9K

[abbeyej]

All except "often" -- I believe "ofTen" is still considered a "nonstandard" pronunciation.

[Jenny in Florida]

Often (Of-ten? or Off-en?)

 

Interesting (in-ter-es-ting or inner-esting?)

 

Sentence (sen-tence? or sen-nence?)

 

 

OK, one more but not with a T...

 

Kin-der-gar-ten or kinner-garden?

 

Somewhere in between of-ten and off-fen for me, with a very soft 't.'

 

In-ter-es-ting.

 

Sen-tence.

 

Kin-der-garden.

 

But it could be just me.

 

Nope. Not just you.

 

Edit: I forgot to say I was raised in Southern California.

 

Edit again: Is anyone else thinking of Gilbert and Sullivan?

Edited September 25, 2012 by Jenny in Florida

[Parrothead]

I pronounce all of the "missing" letters.

 

Oh, I'm a navy brat.

Edited September 25, 2012 by Parrothead

[Kathryn]

I pronounce the T in all.

 

When we were doing Sing, Spell, Read, and Write, they said often was a "rule breaker" because the T wasn't pronounced. That blew my mind. I asked about it on FB and everyone who replied found that odd also.

[Parrothead]

Bearing in mind that I'm a darn Brit:

 

I say a T in almost all of those words. For some reason I go back and forth with 'often'.

 

How do you pronounce 'forehead'? I was brought up to say 'foh-red' (short 'o') but hear 'fore-head' more often these days.

 

Laura

I say fore-head

[boscopup]

North Alabama here, but in a "northern town", so it's a good mix of dialects (not all southern drawl), plus my mom is a New Yorker. :D

 

Often (Of-ten? or Off-en?)

 

Off-en usually, but sometimes I'll say of-ten. My oldest son says of-ten. :D

 

Interesting (in-ter-es-ting or inner-esting?)

 

in-trest-ing

or

in-ter-es-ting

 

Usually the first one.

Sentence (sen-tence? or sen-nence?)

 

sen-tence

 

Kin-der-gar-ten or kinner-garden?

 

kin-der-gar-den

[boscopup]

I pronounce the T in all.

 

When we were doing Sing, Spell, Read, and Write, they said often was a "rule breaker" because the T wasn't pronounced. That blew my mind. I asked about it on FB and everyone who replied found that odd also.

 

Dictionary.com says this:

Pronunciation note

Often was pronounced with a t -sound until the 17th century, when a pronunciation without the  [t] came to predominate in the speech of the educated, in both North America and Great Britain, and the earlier pronunciation fell into disfavor. Common use of a spelling pronunciation has since restored the  [t] for many speakers, and today  [aw-fuhn] and  [awf-tuhn] [or  [of-uhn] and  [of-tuhn]] exist side by side. Although it is still sometimes criticized, often with a [t] is now so widely heard from educated speakers that it has become fully standard once again.

That explains why I say "of-fen" most of the time, but I say the 't' in other words. I'm just well educated! :lol:

[FeFe]

I pronounce those "t's" as well as the "d" in kindergarten.

[stripe]

Apparently the "t" in words like "often" is not supposed to be pronounced. But anyway, it's not the same as skipping the "t" in "interesting." At all. That sounds sloppy.

 

You can read about "often" here:

http://www.pbs.org/speak/speech/beastly/#Often

with a lot of funny quotations (In 1932 the English lexicographer Henry Cecil Wyld called AWF-tin “vulgar” and “sham-refined,”), and note they group it with words like listen, moisten, and Christmas.

So it is a separate category of words.

 

 

Do you pronounce the "l" in "palm" and "almond"? Apparently those are supposed to be silent letters too, but aren't much anymore.

[boscopup]

How do you pronounce 'forehead'? I was brought up to say 'foh-red' (short 'o') but hear 'fore-head' more often these days.

 

 

I had never heard anyone say 'foh-red', but Life of Fred said that was the way to pronounce it. I was confused. :confused: Sure enough, the dictionary says either one is correct. I've always said and heard 'fore-head'.

[boscopup]

Do you pronounce the "l" in "palm" and "almond"? Apparently those are supposed to be silent letters too, but aren't much anymore.

 

I say something closer to 'pawm' and 'aw-mond'. There might be a twitch of an 'l' sound in there, but it's hardly noticeable. Not as much as "all".

[8circles]

... in words like

 

Often (Of-ten? or Off-en?)

 

Interesting (in-ter-es-ting or inner-esting?)

 

Sentence (sen-tence? or sen-nence?)

 

 

OK, one more but not with a T...

 

Kin-der-gar-ten or kinner-garden?

 

Random, I know, but I am watching a course from The Teaching Company and this lecturer keeps saying "sennence" instead of "sentence" and it is driving me batty. Maybe it's regional?

 

But it could be just me. :tongue_smilie:

 

 

 

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I don't do either, except often pronounced 'offen' just like 'soften'. I don't consider that wrong or sloppy, its how was taught in school. Its pronunciation seems to follow trends and the current one is to pronounce the 't'.

 

The others are pronounced with a more of a 'd' sound, though not precisely.

 

So, in-der-esting, sen-dence, etc. It isn't a clear 'd', like kindergarten.

Interesting is sometimes 'intresting'.

Edited September 25, 2012 by momoflaw

[Laura Corin]

I say something closer to 'pawm' and 'aw-mond'. There might be a twitch of an 'l' sound in there, but it's hardly noticeable. Not as much as "all".

 

Pahm and ahmuhnd is how I pronounce them.

 

Laura

[Laura Corin]

I had never heard anyone say 'foh-red', but Life of Fred said that was the way to pronounce it. I was confused. :confused: Sure enough, the dictionary says either one is correct. I've always said and heard 'fore-head'.

 

They put their children (my parents) into private schools where they learned to speak in the RP (received pronunciation) of southern England. If you've ever seen 'Brief Encounter', that's an example of how my mother speaks.

 

That accent was what I learned too, but it has slipped a little.

 

Laura

[the4Rs]

I say

 

Offen

 

In-trest-ing or inner-est-ing but never in-ter-esting

 

Sentence with a t sound

 

Kindergarten with the d sound

 

edited to add: I have lived all over: Alaska, Michigan, Indiana, Oregon...so I probably have a mutt dialect. ;)

[Cassy]

They put their children (my parents) into private schools where they learned to speak in the RP (received pronunciation) of southern England. If you've ever seen 'Brief Encounter', that's an example of how my mother speaks.

 

That accent was what I learned too, but it has slipped a little.

 

Laura

 

My mother was working-class North of England, she always pronounced it foh-red.

[QueenCat]

I don't pronounce the t in often because my third grade teacher had a serious peeve about people who pronounce the t in that word. She drilled it into us that we should never pronounce the t in often. And she was scary, so... (Actually, that led me to look it up, and without the /t/ is how it was for a very long time in British English and with the /t/ is more recent. It follows the same pattern as hasten, fasten, soften)

 

That's funny.... I had a high school English teacher who would stop you if you did NOT pronounce the "t" in often.

 

I use the "t" in all of the original words mentioned... except kindergarten, which comes out like a "g".

[TN Mama]

... in words like

 

Often (Of-ten? or Off-en?)

 

Interesting (in-ter-es-ting or inner-esting?)

 

Sentence (sen-tence? or sen-nence?)

 

 

OK, one more but not with a T...

 

Kin-der-gar-ten or kinner-garden?

 

Random, I know, but I am watching a course from The Teaching Company and this lecturer keeps saying "sennence" instead of "sentence" and it is driving me batty. Maybe it's regional?

 

But it could be just me. :tongue_smilie:

 

 

 

.

 

I pronounce the T in all but often. Although, I sometimes do. And I do pronounce the D in Kindergarten.

 

I can't stand it when people don't pronounce the T in button or mountain or mitten.

 

Buh-in

Mow-in

Mih-in

 

:banghead:

 

 

When I lived in Maine, the above is exactly how those words were pronounced.

[thescrappyhomeschooler]

I pronounce it in all of those except often.

[Laura Corin]

My mother was working-class North of England, she always pronounced it foh-red.

 

I rarely hear 'foh-red' these days.

 

Laura

[MommaOfalotta]

I live in southern Ohio.. aka "Ohiya." All of my older family members say "tomatah" instead of tomato, etc. I dont do that but I dont pronounce T's in a lot of words.

 

Kindergarten= Kindergarden

Congratulations= Congradulations

 

As for how I pronounce other words like sentence, mountain, etc.. I have no clue how to spell it out phonetically. Its almost like a sharp "eh" sound?

 

Its funny you asked, because Ive often (oftden) wondered who pronounces the t's.:001_smile: It sounds funny if I try to.

 

Please pardon any typos... I'm feeding baby.

[Cassy]

I rarely hear 'foh-red' these days.

 

Laura

 

Yes, I must admit that even though I was brought up with 'foh-red' I now say 'fore-head'.

 

It actually reminds me of a rhyme my mum used to say when I was a little girl:

 

There was a little girl

Who had a little curl

Right in the middle of her forehead

When she was good she was very, very good

But when she was bad she was horrid

 

:D

 

(The 'for-red' and 'horrid' kind of rhyming).

[Ellie]

I don't always say it in "often," but the others...always. Probably it's my Spalding training kicking in to remind me to have precise speech. :)

 

I think about things like that after working with a girl in my little one-room school. While waiting for her books to arrive when she enrolled after the start of school, I gave her some busy work (not all busy work is bad, lol), some of which consisted of writing out number words. She did fine with 1-19, but when she got to the 20s, it was "twenny-one, twenny-two, twenny-three..." :001_huh: And I realized that it is not uncommon for us to say it that way. I have pronounced that "t" clearly ever since.

 

I watched a design show where the designer said "assessory" instead of "ac-cessory." :001_huh:

[besroma]

I pronounce the t in all of those examples.

 

:iagree: