bettyandbob Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 mine were 4th grade dd winners SOTW 4("history is my favorite subject") Horizons math 6 French tutor (moving--bummer) Novels : A Little Princess, The Secret Garden, Number the Stars Growing with Grammar Just OK (disappointingly) Real Science for Kids, plus connects to language Losers Wordly Wise Ecce Romani (this is my fault) 8th grade ds History of US vol 8-10 Focus on world history: 20th century History of Science Teaching Company Geology DVDs Hamlet War of the Worlds Losers All Quiet on the Western Front, Black Duck, The Art of Keeping Cool My son asked why all the novels I picked were depressing, so we ending the year with Bringing Down the House and had some good discussions and writing on ethics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura R (FL) Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Easy Grammar Plus BJU Life Science Increasing reading/writing requirements Losers: How to Stay Christian in High School (yuk!) :tongue_smilie: IEW's Fix-It grammar (I just didn't feel like my dd really got anything out of it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy in ME Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Lively Latin, Writing Tales, RightStart Math, Latin Centered Curriculum Losers: Noeo Biology II, History Odyssey level 2 Middle Ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda in TX Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: IEW (I think I've raved enough about this :001_smile: ) CLE Math Ambleside Online Losers CLE Language (our second try with this, still not a good fit for us) Prima Latina (just never really got done) Apologia Elementary Zoology 2 lapbook (I have to accept this. My children don't like doing lapbooks.) Overall, I'm pretty satisfied with our choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Easy Grammar 4 Singapore Math Apologia Astronomy Our literature selections Barb's "Handbook of Nature Study" lessons - we're on week 3 and loving it Natural Speller - works great for us Okay: My custom US history curriculum - I tried to schedule too much, nothing like tweaking your own material Drawing Basics with Thomas Kinkade - I love his instruction, but the Lifepac format is too distracting for us Losers: Where is the US are you Geography - boring Any notebooking - we tried for history and science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpeach Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Lively Latin, GWG, MEP (free Math program from UK), Brave Writer SOTW: not a winner and not a loser -- I have to figure out a way for everyone to be more engaged. Losers: SWR (*sigh* - after finally figuring it out, I decided there had to be an easier way . . . AAS in the fall.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmamainva Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Teaching Textbooks PreAlgebra & Geometry Story of the World Volume 3 Sonlight Core K & Core 3 How Great Thou Art I Can Do All Things Natural Speller Apologia Physical Science & Physics Handwriting Without Tears Letters & Numbers for Me & Cursive Handwriting Losers: Easy Grammar 3 Developing Critical Thinking Through Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmom Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Rightstart math, Sequential spelling, home science adventures, G.U.M (grammar) Losers: spelling connections Overall we have had a great year with choices. We are hoping the same for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Losers Wordly Wise Ecce Romani (this is my fault) I'm just curious--what happened with Ecce Romani? I'm planning to use this next year and am a bit nervous! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmwife Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: FLL SWR Saxon 2 R & S Readers Losers: MUS (very dissapointing) OPGTR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jen210 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I loved: Winston Grammar IEW Horizons 5 Flying Creatures These were ok: Sequential Spelling Sonlight American History part 1 (I think I liked SOTW better the two years prior) Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 we have homeschooled off and on. This year we were back. I picked Ecce Romani, because they had used the text at their previous school. It was fine for ds who completed year 2, pretty much without me--he's talented with language. I have no background in Latin and am terrible with languages. I thought I could learn this along with dd. However, I had a lot of demands outsides of homeschool that prevented a strong focus on this, which I needed because I have no Latin background and poor language skill. If I can squeeze more time out of the day, I will take another stab next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacey Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Singapore Math STOW1 with AG My Pals Are Here Science Losers: Wordly Wise 3000 (thinking of trying original WW level 1 next year?) ABeka Science (just didn't fit my dd9's style) Take it or leave it: Abeka Language 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheBrink Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: MUS MOH Good stuff, but didn't fit for us: R&S English and Math Biblioplan Ancients Didn't care for: CKEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Singapore and Miquon Math Sonlight Core C (except Apple and the Arrow) Drawing with Children Hooked on Phonics Losers: Sonlight's LA1 A Reason for Handwriting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlynn Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners Rod & Staff English 3 Rod & Staff Math 4 Latin For Children A Apologia Astronomy Sonlight Core 3 O.k. BJU Science 3 Loser Singapore Math3a...have tried to incorporate this curriculum the past 3 years and it just simply isn't a match for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyDay Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Losers: Noeo Chem 2 Matin Latin Winners: MegaWords Classical Writing TT 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Alfred Academy Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 winners... DS7 GWG Dictionary Skills Workbook Right Start Level B (Jury is still out on this one) DS5 Happy Phonics Get Ready for the Code losers... DS7 Saxon math FLL Queen's Language Lessons DS5 Queen's Language Lessons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laure Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Teaching Textbooks Algebra I (6th grader) Math-U-See (2nd and 4th graders) Daily Paragraph Editing Lessons From History Discovering Great Artists Meet the Great Composers Happy Phonics (2nd grader, who has struggled with phonics and reading) English from the Roots Up Not a loser but we're using a different company next year: Noeo Chemistry II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Florida Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Learning Latin Through Mythology Themes to Remember Learnables for Spanish CHOW on CD-ROM English Prep Some Assigned Reading: Never Saw Another Butterfly, Ghost in the Tokaido Inn series, So Far From the Bamboo Grove Losers: Minimus Secundus (Someday I'll learn.) PH Science Explorer: Earth's Waters (Boring.) In terms of assigned reading: Day That Changed America series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmsurbat Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Jr. High: Jensen's Grammar CW Aesop/Homer: Older Beginner's Lightning Lit 7 (Whole book studies) BJU Literature 7 (Anthology w/ literary analysis) Math Relief Alg. 1 R&S Math 7 BJU World Studies (gr. 7) + Sonlight Readers/Read-Alouds Latin in the Christian Trivium Hewitt High School Syllabi (history)--good ideas for projects Apologia General and Physical Science OK: Wordly Wise Vocab--the kids like doing these booklets, but I often wonder if it is just brain candy for them. (I guess for junk food this is not too bad!) CW Older Beginner's, BJU Lit, and LitCT were the only new programs--I've already graduated two students--most of our curricula is now made up of the tried and true for our family. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanki Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Disliked: *Apologia Exploring Physical Science (really wished I had gone with the textbook rather than the CD-ROM) Liked: *R&S English *Saxon Math *Apologia Botany looking forward to next year with: *MFW K *MFW ECC *Prima Latina & Latina Christiana I *CKEB *Writing Tales 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closeacademy Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Spell to Write and Read (3rd year in a row) Singapore Math (3 years on this list) Minimus Latin Get the job done: Rod and Staff Reading Rod and Staff Math Story of the World My Pals are Here Science Losers: Tapestry of Grace (I love this program but it was too much for me.) I think I did really well this year in not buying curriculum that didn't work or we didn't use.:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genie Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 5th Grade: Winners: Philosophy for Kids Philosophy Rocks! Apples and Pears Spelling Books B & C K12 Literature Oral Language Lessons (A Beka) Easy Tech Technology lessons from Learning.com Losers: Calvert State History Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8filltheheart Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners repeatedly over the yrs: SSRW Horizons math Foersters alg New winners: LL from LOTR Apples and Pears (did improve the spelling awareness of my spelling disabled son) French Prep (after much hard work on my part to learn French pronounciation....wish there was more audio to accompany it b/c it is a great program) Prentice Hall Science Explorers Losers: CW Science Prep AAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in Central TX Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Big Winners: CW Poetry for Beginners A and OPGTR Runners-up: R&S English and CW Homer A Honorable mention: R&S Math, Elem Apologia Zoology, and McCall-Crabbs Standard Test Lessons in Reading Losers: Fallacy Detective & The Thinking Toolbox (these just didn't work very well once a week; they are good books, so we will read through them daily this summer). TWTM approach to history in the Logic stage. 100EL--just not a good fit for my 3rd son. All in all, we've had a very successful year. I've been very happy with most of my curriculum choices, and I feel confident as we move into our next school year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningirl71 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 4th grade Winnners: Lively Latin SOTW parts of NOEO Chemistry II FLL (used FLL3 as a review) Losers: Abeka Math Latin Primer I (we abandoned it and went with LL) parts of NOEO Chemistry II (encyclopedia work) 7th grade: Winners: Apologia General Science Omnibus I Painless Poetry Losers: Traditional Logic I A few Literature selections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Homeschool in the Woods Time Traveler's Colonial CD Christian Liberty Press The Story of America Teaching Textbooks Pre-Algebra Times Tales Deluxe OK but disappointing: Trail Guide to U.S. Geography Losers: Truthquest History Guide for Ancient Egypt/Greece - not laid out enough for me and "talked down" too much. Abeka Math 3 (probably just my son on that one.) Saxon 5/4 - too much to do, too little time Streams of Civilization - a tad boring Lightning Literature - the one with Jane Austen - too much flipping - I need it all laid out one lesson at a time. Can I make a request? As I am reading all of these trying to glean the collected wisdom here, I am having some trouble with the acronyms. I've been homeschooling since 1992 so I am guessing some of the newbies would appreciate it, too, if we could spell things out, at least for this thread. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetbaby Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners R&S English and Math Natural Speller MUS Geometry Losers Christian Liberty Press' Building Spelling Skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Lynn Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: ETC (K-er) (Explode the Code) FLL3 (3rd grader) (First Language Lessons for the Well Trained Mind, 3) AO (AmblesideOnline) SWR - once I figured out how I wanted to use it (Spell to Write and Read) MUS (Math U See) Losers: Classical Conversations (one ds loved it, one ds hated it. For me it was too much meaningless drill and took away a valuable day of school at home) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 New-Found Winners: Lively Latin My Pals are Here Science Megawords The Learnables Spanish Losers: Sequential Spelling (DD through the process should go faster) NOEO Science (even with everything there we never got around to it) Power Glide Elementary Spanish Online (this is hands down the worst online implementation of a program I have ever seen -- not to mention that the course itself is poorly planned and laid out; it was usable for us because it was a supplement only) Rosetta Stone Spanish (DD didn't like it, and I didn't retain anything) Minimus Secundus Perennial Faves: Michael Clay Thompson's LA series Singapore Primary Maths Primary Grade Challenge Math History Odyssey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 WINNERS Math: Jacobs Geometry Math: MUS Pre-Algebra (spine) Math: Singapore 5A/B & 6A/B; Keys To Decimals & Percents (supplements) Spelling: Megawords Spelling: ABCs and All Their Tricks Writing: Jump In Grammar: Winston Advanced Vocab (roots study): English From The Roots Up 2 Literature: Literary Lessons from the Lord of the Rings Literature: WTM Great Books study of ancients Literature: Garlic Press publishers study guide for the Odyssey (Gilgamesh (abridged, by Westwood), Iliad & Odyssey (Fagles), Oedipus & Antigone (Fitts & Fitzgerald), Greek myths (various authors), Aeneid (abridged, by Church) History: Human Odyssey textbook (by Spielvogel) WORKABLE Writing: Put That In Writing 1 (after much modifying, it went from loser to workable) Science: Apologia Biology (content is fine; but the text is too chatty and dry; layout quibble: the line length is *too long* -- makes reading very tiring, and it's easy to lose your place) LOSERS Grammar: Analytical Grammar (just didn't get done here) Literature: SMARR study guide for Gilgamesh (by Robert Watson) ($8 for 7 sheets of paper folded into a booklet of 28 pages -- and 10 of those 28 pages were covers, publishing info, or blank!! Content was only vocabulary words, comprehension questions, and less than a dozen "critical thinking" or discussion questions.) Literature: SL6 historical fiction readers for the ancients (*I* liked these, but apparently these were too young in reading level, or too much ancients for our boys, and many did not get read) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlashine Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Ordinary Parents Guide to Teaching Reading First Language Lessons for the Well Trained Mind 1 Spelling Workout Handwriting Without Tears Story of the World Getting Job Done: Saxon Math Losers: Drawing With Children-I feel like I need a class to properly teach it, too much set up time. Hodgepodge science curriculum-Spine was on perpetual back order from Rainbow Resource, so threw stuff together as year went along. Planning out my own before hand this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen500 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Singapore Math Singapore Challenging Word problems Lively Latin National Gallery of Art website-great online activities; educational section with art/history/math etc Bill Nye DVD's Just OK: Wordly Wise Losers: Prima Latina Writing Strands Bonjour Les Amies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyR Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners for us Writing Tales 1 Prima Latina Children's History of the World Gods of Greece from Calvert 3 Calvert's spelling Sonlight readers Kumon ( my daughter started off not liking them , but warmed up to them and enjoys it now ) Lapbooking ( has been great fun and love the fact my girls learn from them . ) Losers Calvert ( we're just totally burnt out from using it . ) The Calvert science ( I'd rather rake my eyes out with my own fingers then to teach it again for another year . Horribly dry and borning ) Calvert Math (just not a good fit for us at all . Actually its an awful fit . Pages are too busy , the teacher's manual is a waste of good paper , totally useless ) not enough practice even with the student workbook . Dry , the worst math program I've ever used . ) 3rd grade Calvert History , boring and dry . I haven't used a whole lot this year as we are with a cyberschool right now and don't have the time to use alot of our own stuff . Hopefully next year will be alot different . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latinteach Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I'm just curious--what happened with Ecce Romani? I'm planning to use this next year and am a bit nervous! Thanks! I'm not the original poster, but there's a discussion list for Ecce Romani at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ecceromani/ and they have some helpful sites listed including the site run by the author of the text as well as lots of online practice links (including the Prentice Hall site, lots and lots of Quia games, etc.) Looks very helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Lynn Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Big Winners: CW Poetry for Beginners A and OPGTR Runners-up: R&S English and CW Homer A Honorable mention: R&S Math, Elem Apologia Zoology, and McCall-Crabbs Standard Test Lessons in Reading Losers: Fallacy Detective & The Thinking Toolbox (these just didn't work very well once a week; they are good books, so we will read through them daily this summer). TWTM approach to history in the Logic stage. 100EL--just not a good fit for my 3rd son. All in all, we've had a very successful year. I've been very happy with most of my curriculum choices, and I feel confident as we move into our next school year. Slight Hi-Jack :blushing: I was wondering what you will change for history for next year? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 The Calvert science ( I'd rather rake my eyes out with my own fingers then to teach it again for another year . Horribly dry and borning ) :lol: Ouch, my eyes are hurting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMindy Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: TOG-redesigned Ancients Zoo 1 (Apologia) lots of memory work Losers: No real losers, but I'm ready to be done with LC 2 and move onto Latin Prep 1next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosy Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Loving this thread! Winners: Saxon 1 & 2 MCP Spelling Workout Discover 4 Yourself Bible Study series (these are excellent!) Notebook/encyclopedia approach to learning animals Honey for a Child's Heart (great book list) TCR Elections (I did a co-op class based on it, we'll do part 2 in the fall) Dover Human Anatomy coloring book Phonics Pathways--love it! DS hates it, but his transition from letter sounds to blending to reading has been much more natural than his older sis OK: SOTW (I loved it, but we didn't have enough time to do it consistently...next year should be better with the little kids getting more independent) Writing Strands Usborne World History--using it alone got boring Losers: Drawing with Children (I'm so with you, Starlashine--the book wasn't enough for me) TWTM approach to Classical music...just didn't work for my family to sit and listen quietly without doing something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfside Academy Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Perennial Winners: MUS SWR SOTW Growing w/ Grammar Looking forward to using next year: Prima Latina Easy Classical.com's science Not Great... Sequential Spelling (like the concepts, just no theory behind it) La Clase Divertida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewday Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners *SOTW1 with Activity Guide ("I LOVE history!" is a frequent comment around here :D) *Ancient Times Complete Set Notebooking Pages CDROM (from notebookingpages.com) - a fantastic tool! *Rod and Staff (again) English, Math and Reading (though next year we're moving away from the Reading program for my oldest and incorporating more real books and Charlotte Mason narration etc). *Swimming Creatures of the Fifth Day, Zoology II by Fullbright. *(Always a winner) Alpha Omega's old Horizons American Language Series K-1 (teaches phonics, reading, vocab, spelling, and comprehension and is just a stellar program all around). *A few read alouds we really enjoyed - Understood Betsy and Trumpet and the Swan. Losers *Latin Primer 1 (my dd really loved it and learned a lot, but it's not teacher friendly at. all. We're switching to Latina Christiana next year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Lynn Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners *(Always a winner) Alpha Omega's old Horizons American Language Series K-1 (teaches phonics, reading, vocab, spelling, and comprehension and is just a stellar program all around). Is this the one with readers called: Fun in the Sun, Scamp and Tramp, Soft and White, At the Farm, Sounds of the Sea, (and I think there's one more!)? We use these readers and LOVE them!!! They've been out of print for awhile (which is why I usually don't mention them), but I'm not sure if Children's Books ever got the rights to start printing them again or not. I never had the whole program - just the readers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yobella Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: FLL SWR Singapore Math Nora Gaydos readers Dick and Jane!! (repetition is GOOD:p) OK: MFW First Grade Loser: MFW 1st grade Bible Reader (it was just torture for my child, but otherwise I'm sure it's great for some) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali in OR Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I like what we use. Either I do a good job picking, or I can teach with anything, or I'm flexible, or my standards are low! Anyway, we had a good year and it all worked well. These stand out: Winners: -Singapore math -Biblioplan with SOTW (Medieval, Renaissance, and Reformation) -Noeo Chem I Losers: -Voyages 2nd grade for Bible (Concordia)--I heard good things about Voyages, and I know it is a different format for 3rd grade and up. 2nd grade was just little booklets with simple Bible stories followed by an activity designed for to keep a class busy I think. Would have been better off just reading a good Bible story book. -Spelling Workout D--Hit a point where dd had more trouble with it--reading the cursive list, doing the spelling, some activities that were a bit difficult and value was unclear like unscrambling words to make a list word. Looks like we're moving to R&S next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 2nd grade winners: -BiblioPlan MA/Ren/Ref (every book was good, easy to use, like TOG without the steroids) -everything from Critical Thinking Co. (Think a Minutes, MindBenders, etc.) K/1 winners: -Mind Building Math (Crit. Thinking Co) -SL Readalounds (PK and K) -100EL -Happy Phonics (LOVE this) 2nd grade- "worked amazingly well but we HATED it"-Shurley grammar Winners for both grades: -Bible Study Guide for All Ages -Living Math website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaLisa Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 New Winners This Year: IEW (SWI-B and -C as well as SWI-CC) Precepts Bible Studies (found them very manageable for my 5th grader) Sequential Spelling Omnibus I (though we're crawling through this) PA Homeschoolers Old Favorites: Greenleaf Guide to the OT Debate & Speech Lots of other stuff that works, but these are the standouts! Many blessings, Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamarind Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners Calvert French Kolbe Junior High Literature Elson Reader (Grade 5) Sadlier-Oxford Vocabulary (grades 5 & 7) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenKitty Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Winners: Apologia Science Teaching Textbooks Fallacy Detective Thinking Toolbox Lightning Literature Lollipop Logic Explode the Code Bob Books Nora Gaydos Readers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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