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  1. Welcome! Agreeing with HomeAgain about using the Writing With Skill series. 🙂 As far as "bang for the buck" of doing Classical Ed. for 3 years of high school... Well, "Classical" seems to mean different things to different people -- things like: - Latin: learning Latin - Grammar: diagramming sentences - Rhetoric: persuasive/well-supported writing and speaking; possibly also public speaking, speech & debate - History: doing three 4-year chronological sweeps of World History at deeper levels each time - Science: doing three 4-year cycles of Life Science, Earth Science + Astronomy, Chemistry, Physics - "Great Books": synching up History time periods with the Literature and Philosophy of those times, and also reading primary source writings; plus, reading/discussing/analyzing/writing about the works Are you thinking along these lines for what "Classical Ed." means for your family? If so, then most of those will pretty easily fall in with "required" high school credits needed for college admission, and as a result, "Classical" education will be more a matter of how you chose to accomplish those credits, or what materials you use to do so. (Examples: Latin can be your foreign language; Rhetoric can be part of the English credit; "Great Books" can be part of your History credit and the Lit. portion of your English credit; etc.) Quite honestly, I think my priority with a rising 10th grader would be to think through/write out answers to the following questions, to prioritize what you want to make sure you get done in this fast-shrinking window of opportunity -- and also to note what would be great to do, but you could drop it off the list if you run out of time for it. 1. parent's 3-5 overall goals to accomplish 2. student's strengths, weaknesses, interest/passions, possible career leanings 3.a. academics desired by parent and/or student to accomplish (here's where some "Classical" goals could come in) 3.b. support skills important to accomplish (examples: typing; computer; public speaking; power point presentation; etc.) 4. sports/extracurriculars/hobbies/etc desired by student to be included in their high school schedule 5. life skills still needed to be covered in some way (not necessarily curriculum, can be just during daily living -- but things you want to be : (examples: house/auto maintenance; personal finance; shopping/cooking; laundry; driving skills; mental health; physical healthy/healthy lifestyle; emotional/s*xual relationships; etc.) The reason I suggest focusing more big picture and overall goals for the next 3 years is that if you are planning on college, you and your student are going to spend a lot of 11th grade doing test prep & testing, researching colleges (and financial aid topics), and possibly doing some dual enrollment or outsourced classes that leave less time for homeschooling. And in the fall of 12th grade there is a ton of time spent by the student in *applying* to colleges, and all of the spring "senior" things to do. And often a student is working part time, or doing dual enrollment, or involved in time-consuming activities in 11th and 12th grades, so it is harder to get in everything you want to do. All that said, as far as "Classical Ed", it sounds to me like the only thing you are saying is a need to be more rigorously and conscientiously about is Writing. You sound like you're doing a fine job to me! BEST of luck in transitioning to a more formal Classical homeschooling, and in your high school planning! Warmest regards, Lori D.
  2. - King Arthur and the Round Table (McCaughrean) -- at a gr. 4-6 reader level; nicely written - Illustrated Tales of King Arthur (Courtauld) -- at a gr. 3-6 reader level - King Arthur: Tales from the Round Table (Lang) -- at a gr. 4-8 reader level; nicely written - The Story of King Arthur and His Knights (Pyle) -- there's also the adapted Great Classics Illustrated version, if Pyle's original is a bit too "stout" - The Sword in the Stone (White) -- as a read-aloud only for a 9yo; this is actually the first of White's 4 books that are collected together in The Once and Future King -- the next 3 books have some mature parts, so I recommend waiting on that one until high school - Roger Lancelyn Green has a retelling, but I found his retelling of Troy to be tedious -- don't know about his version of King Arthur. - Emma Gelders-Sterne & Barbara Lindsey's version is the Golden Book one illustrated by Gustaf Tenggren -- it is "okay" - The Dragon's Boy; Sword of the Rightful King (Yolen) -- retelling of young Arthur - Young Merlin series (Yolen) -- fictional childhood/growing up of young Merlin the wizard - Camelot (Yolen) -- collection of short stories by various authors, all as "spins" on traditional Arthur and Merlin myths; more for grade 6+ I would guess - The Illustrated Book of Knights (Coggins) -- Arthur myths/stories + other knights and myths/stories - The Camelot Code series (Mancusi) -- Arthur time travels to 21st century, and adventures of trying to get him back into his place in history/myth
  3. DS#1 had his wisdom teeth out at age 25 and glad we didn't wait longer. One lower tooth was completely sideways (still deep in the gum), and the other lower one was very tilted. The sideways one esp. had to come out as over the years it would have moved forward and sheared off the roots of the teeth in front of it, which would have been a disaster. The potential future pain/problems far outweighs the minor risks for this type of routine surgery. The main thing is to find an oral surgeon who is highly rated and that you feel a lot of confidence in. Good luck! Hugs, Lori D.
  4. DH had his 2 lower wisdom teeth removed a few years back while in his late 50s (the uppers were so high up and not in danger of coming down, they recommended leaving them). The 2 lower ones were finally starting to cause some problems of coming up a bit through the gum, then going down again, so the dentist recommended it. DH went with a great, very experienced oral surgeon who had them out in a jiffy. There was a little bit of a worry that one of the wisdom teeth was fragile and might break into pieces during the procedure and be troublesome, but it popped right out, totally intact. DH had a smooth recovery, no "dry sockets", and the only downside was it took close to 8 weeks for the holes to heal over, so he was having to use a special syringe to flush the pockets out after each meal. No after effects, so it was totally worth it.
  5. If the student is not gung-ho about Math, and the desire is to allow more brain development for tackling Algebra 1 when the student is a bit older, then, just me, but I'd probably "go wide" and explore for Math with a variety of resources in 6th grade that will be good prep for Pre-Algebra, and then go with a middle/high school Math progression along these lines: 7th = Pre-Algebra 8th = Algebra 1 9th = Geometry 10th = Algebra 2 11th = Pre-Calc 12th = be done with math --OR-- do Statistics --OR-- get a jump on college credits with dual enrollment College Algebra or 7th/8th = Pre-Algebra 8th/9th = Algebra 1 9th/10th = Geometry 10th/11th = Algebra 2 11th/12th = Pre-Calc For 6th grade, you could explore/prep for Pre-Algebra with things like: - TOPS: Metric Measurement, and, Probability - Hands On Equations - Patty Paper Geometry - Jousting Armadillos - Zacarro Challenge Math - Keys to Math series: Percents, Decimals, Fractions - Life of Fred: Mineshaft - Singapore Primary 5A/B and 6A/B - Beast Academy 5 Just a thought! BEST of luck, whatever you decide. Warmest regards, Lori D. ETA: AAARRRGGGHHHH! Disregard! Got caught by a zombie thread! 🧟‍♀️
  6. This summer, In addition to researching affordability of the schools on his list (see above posters' suggestions), you might also check *acceptance rates*. Schools with an acceptance rate that is below 15% are long shots. Schools with an acceptance rate below 30% are selective/competitive and should not be counted on too highly. Be sure that 1-2 of the schools on his list have an acceptance rate of at least 70%. You can find acceptance rate numbers by researching colleges at the College Data website, or via a quick online search for " ___college name___ acceptance rate". Both College Data and a quick online search can also give you information on each college's average (50 percentile) and top 25% (75th percentile) for SAT/ACT score and GPA score. The closer to the college's top 25% -- or top 10% -- of freshman scores your student's SAT/ACT and GPA are, boosts your student's chance at acceptance AND for merit aid. Here's a random example for Michigan State: - acceptance rate = 72% (that means 72 of every 100 students who apply are accepted, while 28 of every 100 students DON'T get in) - average (50%) GPA = 3.71 . . . . . 75th percentile GPA (top 25%) = 3.9+ - average (50%) SAT score = 1204 / 75th percentile SAT score (top 25%) = 1320 (or a 28+ ACT score) What do these figures mean? That it's not too competitive to be accepted to Michigan State -- but that a student needs to have higher scores to be competitive for substantial merit aid. Basic Financial Aid Equation: Cost of Attendance minus EFC = Financial Need - tuition & fees. . . . . . FAFSA generated #. . . school offers Financial Aid pkg. of: - room & board. . . . . that gov't & school. . . . loans+grants+work study+scholarships - books & supplies. . .expect families to. . . . .to help with part or all of this Need - transportation. . . . . pay out of savings, . . . (between 60-100%) -- any Need NOT covered - other expenses. . . . earnings, loans. . . . . . . by school's FA pkg is called "Self Help" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(i.e., more family $$ from savings, earnings, loans) Just a start of what you can learn from the financial statistics from a college before running a Net Price Calculator (and here, continuing the example of Michigan State): Financial Figures for Michigan State University (MSU): - only 67% of freshmen who apply for FA -- actually receive aid (mostly Federal loans+grants+work study, and college-awarded scholarships) - only 61% = average of Need met by MSU in their FA pkg. (so, approx. 1/3 of the Feed is NOT met by the school's FA pkg.) - only 9% of freshmen receive merit-based aid (scholarships) AND ALSO had no financial Need - 50% of students must take out loans, and graduate with an *average* of $32,000+ debt - $3,766 = average amount of "need-based self help" * * need-based self-help is the term colleges use to mean "money you need to come up with out of savings, earnings, or more loans to finish making up the difference between your financial need and the school's offered FA pkg. (of LOANS, scholarships, grants, work study) Other factors to consider: - 36,000+ students applied to MSU, 71% accepted, for a freshman class of roughly 26,000 - 9% of those freshmen (roughly 2400 out of 26,000) receive merit-based aid (scholarships) AND had no financial Need -- so, a total gift, no "Need" attached - $10,000 is the *average* award of that merit aid with no Need - $28,500/per year cost = tuition & fees ($14,500) + room & board ($10,000) + books & supplies ($1,000) + other expenses ($3,000) - just 51% of students graduate in 4 years (which means more $$$ because it takes more than 4 years to graduate) What does all of this mean? - if you have financial Need, very likely less than 2/3 of it will be covered by MSU's FA pkg -- and part of their FA pkg. will be an offer of loans - half of all undergrad students have debt of $32,000 by the time they graduate -- so you can expect you'll probably be paying for a big chunk of college - half of all undergrad students need more than 4 years to graduate -- and most merit-based/need-based scholarships are only for 4 years - even if you are an in-state student and you are one of the lucky 9% of students who do get the average amount merit-based scholarship ($10,000) that doesn't require also having Need, that amount will cover about 2/3 of tuition & fees, still leaving $18,000 per year in remaining tuition & fees, room & board, and other expenses for the family to cover "Inside" scholarships are awarded through the college, and you find out about those in the financial aid package that the school sends a few weeks after sending an acceptance notice -- so, in the Spring of the senior year. Also -- your student may need to plan on attending a "Scholarship Day" in the Spring (some colleges have them in the Fall), in which the student goes to the school they are interested in and have applied to, and does interviewing, with the hope of landing a larger scholarship -- so again, probably find out in the Spring. "Outside" scholarships are awarded by institutions or individuals other than the school. Note: these are usually much smaller awards (a few hundred $$ to a few thousand $$), AND are usually NOT renewable (i.e. -- one-time awards, rather than the renewable/4-year freshman awards given by the college). Also, many colleges apply outside scholarships toward reducing the amount of scholarship $$ they would have awarded to the student, which means the student is NOT receiving any more aid/scholarships than they would have -- AND after the freshman year, those outside scholarships go away, and the student's renewable award from the college can be LOWER for the next 3 years than it would have been, if the student had not accepted the outside scholarship. So, if planning on applying for outside scholarships, make sure the college accepts "stacking" of outside scholarships on TOP of what they plan to award. If they do not allow stacking, then outside scholarships are likely NOT helpful for you, unless they are for a large sum AND are renewable. Also, a large amount of "outside" scholarships have a "need-based" requirement to them, even if they are "merit-based". The deadlines for many "outside" scholarships are the previous spring/summer/autumn prior to 12th grade -- so, now through November. (And you usually find out if you've landed the scholarship at the end of the Fall Semester, or early Spring semester.) Hope something there is of help. BEST of luck! Warmly, Lori D.
  7. Along with Happi Duck's suggestion, can there be an occasional compromise? Can just a few days a year -- maybe a few (3-4 of the holidays, discussed IN ADVANCE) --"be special", and be the once-in-awhile day that DD#1 who has been really good and uncomplaining get to have choice too? I'm just thinking that hot dogs are pretty quick to grill, and could be done alongside the chicken and kept on a warm plate, and then the rest of her meal would be choice from what's being served to all the other various family members (corn on the cob, vegetables, yogurt, goldfish crackers, a banana). I think the key is to have a discussion in advance (like what Happi Duck suggests), but also let her know she is worth the extra effort too, by making today's Father's Day grill day, her birthday, 4th of July, and some other holiday/special foods day, her "choice days". Just a thought! And so sorry you're having to struggle so much just to get food into everyone -- what a pain to have to make separate menus for -- 😵
  8. Don't know the answers to your questions, but we've been very pleased with the auto + home insurance from AAA. Now, granted, we haven't had to make any claims, LOL, so maybe we'll be very unhappy with the service if we need to make a claim, BUT... we get a good discount for doing both through AAA, and when our DSs were teens and starting to drive they got a "good student" auto insurance discount. We also have really appreciated having the AAA service in general, as our old last vehicle needed towing to the shop several times, and it was great to not have to pay for that AND the towing service arrived in less than 30-40 minutes each time. Plus -- free AAA maps and guide books! And free passport photos! And motel/travel discounts! (:D [We switched away from State Farm many years ago, as they were more expensive and difficult to work with.] As far as buying a new truck for your 16yo DD -- If that puts your total cars to 3 or more, I'd suggest listing the newer vehicles with you and your DH as the primary drivers, and list DD as primary driver of the oldest of the 3 or more cars. There is definitely a big price jump for teens in age/model of vehicle when they are listed as primary driver. If the new truck brings your total family cars to 2, then be sure that DD is NOT listed as one of the 2 primary drivers -- that it is you and DH -- to keep rates lower. (ETA: I am assuming when I suggest this that *all* of you will be rotating around through vehicles and taking turns driving the new truck -- if that is not the case, and if it will *only* be DD driving it, then disregard my suggestion, as it would not be true/valid.)
  9. As previous posters have mentioned, the financial aid and/or scholarships is a whole, separate conversation. (:D There are some really great threads on the topics of "Money Matters", "Financial Aid", and "Scholarships", all linked on PAGE 3 of the "College Motherlode" thread pinned at the top of the College Board. A few threads linked in that pinned thread to help "quick start" you on Financial Aid: Understanding financial aidCan someone please walk me through how financial aid works in the USA I think I need help with guidance counseling, I.e., I’m clueless ...and on Scholarships: Preparing for College: what scholarships/grants to apply for --- summary explanation of "inside" and "outside" scholarships, and the scholarship search process Scholarships -- search process, inside vs outside scholarships; explanation of Financial Aid equation: COA-EFC=Need What colleges give most merit scholarships? -- ties into discussion of college search process + how financial aid works And then a few threads on "alternate" ways of paying for college or reducing college costs: s/o Cautionary Tale/high college costs — a brainstorm $$ ideas thread! How are YOU managing to pay for college? -- lots of real-life creative ideasCollege as cheap as possible: need advice College breaking the piggy bank? -- how are homeschoolers affording college ideas/discussion BEST of luck as you enter the most complex and "hair-tearing" part of homeschooling -- searching for/applying to colleges and $$ !
  10. Yes yes! And to go along with that idea, while it is not a Bible study, Stormie Omartian's Power of a Praying Teen is a good go-along, to balance study of Scripture with deepening relationship with the Lord.
  11. Congrats on nearing the finish line, Miribillis! And great ideas everyone! (:D And, you might check for more ideas in the "High School Time Table" thread (linked on PAGE 1 of the "High School Motherlode #1" thread, pinned at the top of the High School Board). 🙂
  12. Hope that works well and that you have an enjoyable and engaging Lit. year! One last thought -- you can also enjoy discussing "big ideas" and looking for literary elements in the extra time you'll have from re-scheduling LL7 with some high quality/"classic" YA (Young Adult) works. A few ideas that are great for the grade 7-9 range to get you started (some have links to lit. guides): Tuck Everlasting (Babbit) -- Glencoe Lit. Library guideBelow the Root (Snyder) A Long Walk to Water (Park)I Am Malala (Yousafzi)Brown Girl Dreaming (Woodson) Julie of the Wolves -- Glencoe Lit. Library guide Walk Two Moons -- Glencoe Lit. Library guide Maniac Magee (Spinnelli) -- Progeny Press guideEcho (Ryan)Wonder (Palacio) A Wrinkle in Time (L'Engle) -- Blackbird & Co. guide; Glencoe Lit. Library guide; Progeny Press guide Enchantress from the Stars (Engdahl) The Giver -- Garlic Press Discovering Lit. guide; Portals to Lit. guide; Progeny Press guide The Cay (Taylor) -- Progeny Press guide Island of the Blue Dolphins (O'Dell) -- Glencoe Lit. Library guide; Garlic Press Discovering Lit. guide; Progeny Press guide Sounder (Armstrong) -- Glencoe Lit. Library guide Where the Red Fern Grows -- Garlic Press Discovering Lit. guide; Progeny Press guide Bridge to Terebithia -- Glencoe Lit. Library guide; Progeny Press guide The Midwife's Apprentice (Cushman)The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle (Avi) -- Glencoe Lit. Library guideThe Evolution of Calpurnia Tate (Kelly) The Blue Sword (McKinley) The Secret of Platform 13 (Ibbotson)The House with a Clock in its Walls (Bellairs) The Westing Game -- Blackbird & Co. guide The Bronze Bow (Geoge) -- Progeny Press guide Eagle of the Ninth (Sutcliff) -- Progeny Press guide The Master Puppeteer (Paterson) -- Progeny Press guide The Great and Terrible Quest (Lovell) The King's Fifth (O'Dell) Hittite Warrior (Williamson) Bullrun (Fleischman) The War That Saved My Life (Bradley) Roll of Thunder Hear My Cry (Taylor) -- Garlic Press Discovering Lit. guide I Am David -- Blackbird & Co. guide
  13. I make up for lack of spending big bucks by spending lots of hours making a gift. I crochet a baby blanket with matching hat -- about $10 in yarn. For friends I am closer to, I also purchase 2-3 books -- board books, picture books, or favorite Richard Scarry or Dr. Seuss. So about $25 for both supplies and books, but the handmade "heirloom" blanket makes it a much more special and valuable gift (at least IMO 😉 ). If I was just giving cash or gift card, then I would probably give $25-50.
  14. You're welcome 😉😁 All Creatures Great and Small -- Book Rags; Teachers Pay Teachers; e-notes; Macmillian teacher guide; Sharp School free online teacher lesson plan Alice's Adventures in Wonderland -- Book Rags; Sparknotes; Prestwick House; Teachers Pay Teachers; Novel Guide Story of My Life -- Book Rags; e notes; Gale Engage Learning; Prestwick House: response journal "Rikki Tikki Tavi" -- Book Rags; Teachers Pay Teachers; C-Palms: literary analysis & narrative writing lesson plan; Learn Zillion: close reading lessons "Bride Comes to Yellow Sky" -- Book Rags; e notes; Prestwick House And a possible substitute study of poetry that can be gently spread over 3 years (7th-9th grades): CAP's Art of Poetry program. Or possibly the Michael Clay Thompson poetics series on poetry appreciation/understanding.
  15. My guess is that because LL7 is meant to be a beginning formal literature program, a lot of time is allowed for just learning to read works that are a good-sized jump up for most students in length, and complexity of sentence structure, vocabulary, and use of accents. Also, the *average* 7th grader hasn't written much (if at all, if my co-op classes are any gauge, LOL) about literature before, so that 7 weeks allows a lot of time for figuring out how to *write* about literature. I have a stealth dyslexic DS#2, and we motored through LL7 in about 28 weeks, and that was just doing it 4 days/week for about 40-50 min./day, and that time included doing the readings aloud together buddy style ("you read a page, I read a page") -- and we did a lot of discussing/analyzing as we read the works together. We also did -12 lessons per week out of Figuratively Speaking while doing LL7, and would practice looking for those literary elements in the lit. we were reading for LL7. Having LL7 be a lighter program allowed for that -- as well as for also doing full programs for writing, grammar, and spelling, since DS#2 was weak in the LA areas. All that said -- I have heard on these boards multiple times that people who were using CLE find LL7/LL8 to be too "lite", so you may prefer to go with a different program, or with a class that is more rigorous. BEST of luck, whatever you decide! Warmest regards, Lori D.
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