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So we have no trees on our property. But our neighbors on one side do and our neighbors another door down on the other side have a giant tree that is pretty much their whole backyard. Rowhouses. Urban living. Both trees overhang our yard, which is shady as a result.

 

Over the years, I have basically taken care of the sticks but sometimes, I admit it, I get fed up. I have nowhere to put them. The trash collection people HATE taking them - they fall into this weird category where you're not supposed to bag them up because they're yard waste but they're not big enough to tie into bundles (I got in trouble for that with the trash people). Once I carted a bunch of them into Rock Creek Park, the big national park in the middle of the city. I should probably just do that. I'm sure that's illegal too though. When I'm being good, I pile them up then take an afternoon to break them all up into small enough bits to sneak into the trash or so that they're allowed to go into leaf collection. Except, leaf collection only happens in the fall.

 

These trees drop a ton of sticks. Old, giant, probably dying trees.

 

Anyway, sometimes... I throw them back into the neighbors' yards. What say the hive? Okay? Rude? The sticks should be the problem of the tree owners? Should I hang my head in shame for having done that sometimes?

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If the tree branches bother you, why don't you trim them? I believe that you have that right if they are overhanging your property - you can trim up to the property line.

Leaves and sticks that fall on your property are legally your responsibility, not the neighbor's.

 

How is your yard waste handled? We collect yard waste in large brown paper bags. If I have sticks I just put them in there.

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It might depend on state/local law.  I think generally your neighbor doesn't have to clean up after their overhanging tree.

 

I don't know that it's rude to throw the sticks over, but I'm not sure you have a "right" if the neighbors complain.  Do the neighbors seem to care?  What do they do with the sticks?  I assume they have the same disposal issues that you have.  Have you asked the city what to do with that sort of trash?

 

I'd probably just pile them up in a corner somewhere and then bury them in the leaf pile on leaf collection day.  :P  Or as another person suggested, use them to roast hot dogs and marshmallows.  (Assuming you are allowed to light a fire.)

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The one that's the worst the neighbors wanted to trim it and even cut it down but as a walnut tree, it's protected. They were allowed to trim it a little. I won't even get into the walnuts... that's a whole other thing. Sometimes they all fall in a row and it sounds so crazy. One hit ds when he was little and he was very upset by it. Poor kid.

 

The neighbors don't like us. The neighbors with the giant tree are renters - it's been a group house for ages.

 

I do sort of like the shade. But it also encourages mosquitoes so that's a toss up.

 

Every once in awhile there's a limb the size of my arm (like today as I swept the leaves). Those are the ones I'm extra tempted to return to the tree.  :tongue_smilie:

 

I can't imagine asking anyone to take care of the leaves, so it's probably just on me. Our yard waste collection is weird. They used to not do it except for a couple times a year. Now they're supposed to do it when they can. Seriously, that's the policy. Many times I've left stuff out there and it just sits for weeks and weeks. And once I got in trouble for having sticks in the leaves and yard waste. That's why they weren't taking it. They said I needed to call bulk collection. But bulk collection wouldn't take them either. They said they were too small.

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I should buy a fire pit. Maybe that should be my Christmas gift to the family this year. We should really have it for Solstice and have a fire back there with all the sticks (except, I just broke them and hid them in the trash again!).

 

Actually, I think I like that solution best!

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I used to think of it as something we didn't have room to do in our postage stamp yard, but I've seen people with those portable fire pits and I realized a little while ago that it would be fun to have one and I just keep forgetting to get one. If we're burning things, alley rats and raccoons won't bother us, right...?

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The one that's the worst the neighbors wanted to trim it and even cut it down but as a walnut tree, it's protected. They were allowed to trim it a little. I won't even get into the walnuts... that's a whole other thing. Sometimes they all fall in a row and it sounds so crazy. One hit ds when he was little and he was very upset by it. Poor kid.

 

The neighbors don't like us. The neighbors with the giant tree are renters - it's been a group house for ages.

 

I do sort of like the shade. But it also encourages mosquitoes so that's a toss up.

 

Every once in awhile there's a limb the size of my arm (like today as I swept the leaves). Those are the ones I'm extra tempted to return to the tree. :tongue_smilie:

 

I can't imagine asking anyone to take care of the leaves, so it's probably just on me. Our yard waste collection is weird. They used to not do it except for a couple times a year. Now they're supposed to do it when they can. Seriously, that's the policy. Many times I've left stuff out there and it just sits for weeks and weeks. And once I got in trouble for having sticks in the leaves and yard waste. That's why they weren't taking it. They said I needed to call bulk collection. But bulk collection wouldn't take them either. They said they were too small.

I honestly have no idea what to do if you don't have compost and yard waste collection. That to me is bizarre. Can you compost them? What do other people do with their leaves? The mind boggles.

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I definitely think that a fire pit is your best bet. 

 

I also think it's rude to toss them into your neighbor's yard.  Presumably these trees were there when you moved in, so you signed on for cleaning up yard waste from the trees.  Them's the breaks.

 

I also think tossing it in your neighbor's yard is probably making you enemies over a very minor issue.  Not smart, IMO.

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I used to think of it as something we didn't have room to do in our postage stamp yard, but I've seen people with those portable fire pits and I realized a little while ago that it would be fun to have one and I just keep forgetting to get one. If we're burning things, alley rats and raccoons won't bother us, right...?

Correct.

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I'd burn them, or put them in the bottom of the leaf bags. I set mine out in a trash can and the yard waste guys take them along with my leaves, but they're not flaky about what they take and when. Alternatively, you can bury them in your garden. It's a thing. It's good for the soil. http://www.richsoil.com/hugelkultur/

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Our teens like fire, and they really like roasting hot dogs over a fire, so the fire pit has been much appreciated. I can usually count on them to keep the sticks from our old maple trees under control, and especially when the weather is decent.

 

Invite a bunch of teen over from the neighborhood and tell them that if they pick up all the sticks, you'll provide the hot dogs and s'mores. You'll be the most popular mom in the area!

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We sneak ours into the trash.  Or burn them.

 

Our neighbor has 2 very large trees, both seem to be dying, right on their side of our fence.  Most of the tree detritus falls on our property: oak leaves and pine straw and big, fat limbs.  It is so very annoying to spend the fall cleaning up from his tree (I also have fears that the two trees, which are growing around each other, will fall on our house since they lean this way, but that's another story).

 

 

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What happens if you ignore the sticks?  

 

If I ignore them, there will just be sticks all over my patio. There's not really anywhere else for them to go. I have, in the past, piled them up in a bin... but then there's a murky bin of sticks. I've also stacked them in our car spot leaning against the neighbor's garage, but then it infinges on the ability to squeeze a second car back there.

 

I think if anyone has a normal sized yard it's maybe hard to picture that things like this are sort of more of an issue when your yard is the size of a large living room.

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To be honest, it offends me when our neighbor does that. We live in heavily treed neighborhood - my neighbor is an original owner of 30+ years, and we have lived here 15 years. The trees pre-date both of us.

 

They have trimmed the parts of the tree that overhang on their property, which is their right. Dumping normal products of the tree back into my yard strikes me as extremely petty.

 

I hope they enjoy the clean air my tree provides.

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I don't know.  I would consider that pretty petty.  Don't you enjoy having mature trees in your neighborhood?  Our neighbors have much bigger trees than us and we pick up sticks and rake leaves from them all the time.  I wouldn't think of dumping that stuff back in their yard.  It's the price of living in a neighborhood with mature trees.  Maybe try the desert next time?  :lol:

 

We have a little portable fire pit and it is fun!  We do burn sticks in it at times.  We finally put a little compost in our back yard too and sometimes haul out to the city compost. 

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I don't have your problem but I have been chastised by a neighbor because some of the leaves that fall off our trees blow into her yard.  I guess I am supposed to rake up the leaves the minute they fall so the wind doesn't blow them around.   She really thinks that everyone's leaves blow into her yard, but none of her leaves go into anyone else's yard. Yeah, she's a bit nutty.  We do have a lot of mature trees in our neighborhood.    Right now there are leaf piles all up and down the street in anticipation of the leaf sucker truck coming next week.

 

Anyway, the stuff that falls off a tree into your yard - or gets blown into your yard by the wind - is yours to deal with. 

 

I love my little firepit.  You  need to get one.  I bet you and your boys will love it.

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We have the same issue lots of trees in our mature neighborhood, but there is one close to the

Property line, but clearly our neighbor's that drop sticks, branches, and often limbs. The guy has trimmed the tree, my husband has trimmed the tree, but short of cutting it down, there is going to be sticks, and lots of them. We just pick them up and toss what we can, and burn the rest in the firepit .

We love the neighbors and it's not worth fighting over.

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Am I the only one who is jealous that my neighbor's tree ISN'T dropping walnuts into my yard?

You can be extra jealous of me. We collected two 5-gallon buckets of walnuts from the neighborhood park across the street last week. I get walnuts without leaves & sticks in my yard :).

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My parents have a walnut tree. Good luck with that. We've never gotten one. We'd have to declare a major all out genocidal war against the squirrels, and we haven't had the heart to do it. Mostly those things look up at you with a, "You can have this nut when you pry it from my cold, dead paws, make my day punk" face, and you just let it go.

 

 

Someday, maybe someday.

 

Darned squirrels.

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You can be extra jealous of me. We collected two 5-gallon buckets of walnuts from the neighborhood park across the street last week. I get walnuts without leaves & sticks in my yard :).

NO WAY! I want proof.

 

Where are the maniacal potentially rabid squirrels the size of dogs? Where? We have an entire herd of the dang things! They destroy every chance we have - short of hand grenades lobbed in their direction - of getting near the tree when the walnuts are ripe. It's maddening! I'm beginning to think that walnuts are imported from squirrel free countries! LOL :smash:  :smash:  :smash:

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NO WAY! I want proof.

 

Where are the maniacal potentially rabid squirrels the size of dogs? Where? We have an entire herd of the dang things! They destroy every chance we have - short of hand grenades lobbed in their direction - of getting near the tree when the walnuts are ripe. It's maddening! I'm beginning to think that walnuts are imported from squirrel free countries! LOL :smash: :smash: :smash:

We moved here a year ago right when the walnuts fell. I watched for a couple days to make sure I wasn't going to ruin someone's tradition if I gathered them, but no one came for them except crows. I have yet to see a squirrel in our neighborhood! They didn't find my parents' neighborhood until we'd been living there 10+ years. Then they pried open every unripe apricot, pried open the pits, and made off with the inner seed :(. We were livid.

 

Our only competition for walnuts seems to be preteen boys who use them as ammunition, the little old lady who collected 1/2 plastic shopping bag, and possibly crows. But I didn't see any crows this year so we made out well.

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You can be extra jealous of me. We collected two 5-gallon buckets of walnuts from the neighborhood park across the street last week. I get walnuts without leaves & sticks in my yard :).

 

Well, I am officially extra-jealous.

 

But then, we have yard waste collection to deal with sticks and shells besides!

 

I would eat so many walnuts. They are expensive here. We eat tons of blackberries in the summer and yes we have to trim them but it's worth it!

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Ha, sounds like this kind of thing could start a war with your neighbours, with things going back and forth. Maybe just have a chat about it without throwing anything?

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Just a heads' up to anyone suggesting trimming the tree:  you need to be really careful about trimming a neighbor's tree.  There are statutes and common law rules that, as I recall from property law about a jillion years ago, make you liable for damage you do to their tree.  The example I remember is that if a young tree starts growing over your property line, you can keep it trimmed to your property line even if it means that the tree grows up flat on one side.  But, once it's established and over your line, you're basically stuck with the general shape and size of the tree.  You can maintain that size, perhaps prune a bit to promote safety and tree health (or, of course, remove dead limbs), but you may not get a tree company to come over and make the tree flat on your side, running up from your property line.  This is much easier to explain with a picture, but trees are protected pretty well under the law in most states (ask anyone who has ever had a neighbor's tree fall on their roof and had to pay for the repair).

 

I don't know what to do about sticks, but, legally, they're probably your problem.

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This is so funny about the nuts. They're very hard to collect and process. I've tried, but there's nowhere to put them really to dry where they don't get decimated by the squirrels. I've brought a few inside in the past and done them that way, but they have to dry out for a good while. If anyone has ideas, I'm open to them.

 

The wood chipper idea would be hilarious to anyone who saw my yard. Again, size of your bedroom.

 

I think the reason the sticks get to me is that twice limbs have broken my windshield. Sigh. And it's hard to deal with the big ones like that. I do like having the big trees back there. The neighbor's magnolia in the front on the other hand... that could totally go. I love magnolias, but this one is not healthy and the leaves are a pain.

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Klmama may be onto something. I use a dehydrator for grape tomatoes, peppers, celery, onions, leeks, apple slices, peach slices, pear slices (boy are pears a pain in the rear to work with so I have to be in a really benevolent mood to do these for my family which only happens about once every four years when the memories of the last pear process have faded, LOL), and herbs. I think it might work for walnuts.

 

You can get a simple dehydrator cheap from Harbor Freight online.

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I know my neighbor throws them back over to us.  We rent and we have HUGE, TALL trees.  They are gorgeous and we love them.  The sticks are annoying.  I make my kids collect them.  But the neighbor throws them back over pretty sure based on the pile in one spot ;-)  Everyone has trees here....so i can't imagine not having trees.  Our oak tree blows leaves all over the street....pretty sure we are the only one with an oak tree.  

 

I think it is just part of being close to neighbors.  And having trees.  I think you could inquire about having it trimmed on your side of the property, but it would be your expense.  But maybe the neighbor wants the tree taken down....then suggest splitting the cost?  Helps you out in the long run.  

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Another suggestion: give them to somebody who heats with wood.

We had to cut down several dead limbs on our trees this fall, and I felt those were too good to be sent for shredding/composting. So I posted on facebook if anybody was interested in coming and getting them, and lo and behold, somebody was delighted to have them. Not only did they come and get all the larger pieces I had set aside, they also hauled away several large bags full of small sticks I had not thought useful.

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This is so funny about the nuts. They're very hard to collect and process. I've tried, but there's nowhere to put them really to dry where they don't get decimated by the squirrels. I've brought a few inside in the past and done them that way, but they have to dry out for a good while. If anyone has ideas, I'm open to them.

 

My parents have a walnut tree. They collect the nuts, bring them inside and let them dry in wicker baskets or, if possible, spread out flat in the basement. You could put them on trays on top of your kitchen cabinets and let them dry there.

Of course you can't dry them outside.

 

Attic would work well if you have one - you just need a space where they can sit. The attic does not even have to be finished.

 

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