astrid Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Pat Robertson says that it's OK to divorce your wife if she has Alzheimers and cannot perform her wifely duties. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44530424/ns/health-alzheimers_disease/ astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) What a jack*ss!!! Oops, did I just curse? Well, that only leaves 11 swear words I can use today. Edited September 17, 2011 by Nakia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Peach Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310678 And Nakia, you'd better use those wisely, it's early in the day yet! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 The saddest thing about Pat Robertson is that he doesn't seem to have anyone in his life who truly loves him. If they did love him, they would cancel his TV and radio contracts, obtain P.O.A. if necessary and find a good doctor for him, and take a few other measures to get him entirely out of the public eye. He's obviously gone 'round the bend. At the least, he has lost his filter. This isn't the first time he has been totally outrageous in recent years. Why aren't they protecting him from himself? Why are they letting these ridiculous episodes become his legacy, when he'd enjoyed decades of respect in his community? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Robertson is a moron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 What a crackhead! Yo dude..."for richer or poor, in sickness and in health" errrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 The saddest thing about Pat Robertson is that he doesn't seem to have anyone in his life who truly loves him. If they did love him, they would cancel his TV and radio contracts, obtain P.O.A. if necessary and find a good doctor for him, and take a few other measures to get him entirely out of the public eye. He's obviously gone 'round the bend. At the least, he has lost his filter. This isn't the first time he has been totally outrageous in recent years. Why aren't they protecting him from himself? Why are they letting these ridiculous episodes become his legacy, when he'd enjoyed decades of respect in his community? Maybe he has alzheimer's and his family moved on to bigger and better things?? I don't know...I would think he needs some medical attention...and you are probably right about his family pulling him out of the public eye. BUT, it is the outrageous that sells ad space...sigh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy in Ky Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Excellent commentary on this: http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/09/15/the-gospel-emptying-cruelty-of-pat-robertson/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieM Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 The saddest thing about Pat Robertson is that he doesn't seem to have anyone in his life who truly loves him. If they did love him, they would cancel his TV and radio contracts, obtain P.O.A. if necessary and find a good doctor for him, and take a few other measures to get him entirely out of the public eye. He's obviously gone 'round the bend. At the least, he has lost his filter. This isn't the first time he has been totally outrageous in recent years. Why aren't they protecting him from himself? Why are they letting these ridiculous episodes become his legacy, when he'd enjoyed decades of respect in his community? :iagree: And I find it rather ironic that one of the early warning signs of Alzheimer's is that "loss of filter." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritaserum Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Wow. What a gross idea. :( I lost my sweetheart of a grandmother to Alzheimer's six months ago. Her decline started ten years before that. She lived at home with my grandpa until a few weeks before she died. My dad and his siblings moved her to a home because my grandpa was in the hospital with pneumonia. It's a painful way to lose a loved one, but I'm sure my grandpa never even considered divorcing her! It probably helped that she was devotedly in love with him. Even though she forgot her grandkids and children, she didn't forget him. Every time she saw him she smiled and said how glad she was to see "her Tom." :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 The saddest thing about Pat Robertson is that he doesn't seem to have anyone in his life who truly loves him. If they did love him, they would cancel his TV and radio contracts, obtain P.O.A. if necessary and find a good doctor for him, and take a few other measures to get him entirely out of the public eye. He's obviously gone 'round the bend. At the least, he has lost his filter. This isn't the first time he has been totally outrageous in recent years. Why aren't they protecting him from himself? Why are they letting these ridiculous episodes become his legacy, when he'd enjoyed decades of respect in his community? I am not at all convinced he ever had an appropriate filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Pat Robertson says that it's OK to divorce your wife if she has Alzheimers and cannot perform her wifely duties. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44530424/ns/health-alzheimers_disease/ astrid Maybe he's getting Alzheimers; I can't imagine that is a popular opinion. It's surely not for my family... parents... and community!! I'm sure glad my mom and dad stuck together... even though my mom got cancer!! That's not "fun" either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I wasn't ever a fan or follower of PR so I don't know much about what he used to be like. I only know that people now say, "What happened to PR?" So probably he held some of these offensive beliefs in the past but was able to couch them in Christianese or something. It does seem like early stages of Alzheimers or dementia to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 We were kinda blown away when he said that. :( It's sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Idiot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G5052 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I bet his wife loved that comment! If she has relatives that have dementia, she is on "notice" for how he'll react if she shows signs of it. And I think of my poor father, who suffered horribly through my mother's dementia right until his last hour of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ria Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I am not at all convinced he ever had an appropriate filter. You and me both. I am dumbfounded that people have ever respected him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halftime Hope Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Pat Robertson says that it's OK to divorce your wife if she has Alzheimers and cannot perform her wifely duties. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44530424/ns/health-alzheimers_disease/ astrid Pat Robertson really was an intelligent, thoughtful, very successful business person, with a wide range of experience in a variety of endeavors, including some that were centerd around putting hands and feet to compassion. His decline is a sight that is very sad. The grace and compassion of his earlier years is no longer evident. That's why I'm thinking about what kind of a great-granny I want to be, and trying to cultivate those habits now. Lord, help me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I've never considered him someone worth paying any attention to. just becuase he claims to be a "good christian" doesn't mean he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I wasn't ever a fan or follower of PR so I don't know much about what he used to be like. I only know that people now say, "What happened to PR?" So probably he held some of these offensive beliefs in the past but was able to couch them in Christianese or something. It does seem like early stages of Alzheimers or dementia to me. some forms of alzheimers can totally change a person, all depends upon what area's of the brain are most affected. I observed a woman who was absolutely foul-mouthed and insulting of her son. I was *amazed* at how patient he was with her. I've a friend who cared for her mil who also had the "bad kind" of alzheimer's. that said - I think he's always thought these sort of things, just did a better job filtering himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annandatje Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 The saddest thing about Pat Robertson is that he doesn't seem to have anyone in his life who truly loves him. If they did love him, they would cancel his TV and radio contracts, obtain P.O.A. if necessary and find a good doctor for him, and take a few other measures to get him entirely out of the public eye. He's obviously gone 'round the bend. At the least, he has lost his filter. This isn't the first time he has been totally outrageous in recent years. Why aren't they protecting him from himself? Why are they letting these ridiculous episodes become his legacy, when he'd enjoyed decades of respect in his community? Those are the repercussions for surrounding yourself with yes men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i.love.lucy Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I lost my sweetheart of a grandmother to Alzheimer's six months ago. Her decline started ten years before that. She lived at home with my grandpa until a few weeks before she died. My dad and his siblings moved her to a home because my grandpa was in the hospital with pneumonia. It's a painful way to lose a loved one, but I'm sure my grandpa never even considered divorcing her! It probably helped that she was devotedly in love with him. Even though she forgot her grandkids and children, she didn't forget him. Every time she saw him she smiled and said how glad she was to see "her Tom." :):001_wub: Excellent commentary on this: http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/09/15/the-gospel-emptying-cruelty-of-pat-robertson/ That's what I was going to post. I hope the world doesn't think most Christians align with him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Pat who? :001_tt2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linguistmama Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 How horrible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ereks mom Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 The saddest thing about Pat Robertson is that he doesn't seem to have anyone in his life who truly loves him. If they did love him, they would cancel his TV and radio contracts, obtain P.O.A. if necessary and find a good doctor for him, and take a few other measures to get him entirely out of the public eye. He's obviously gone 'round the bend. At the least, he has lost his filter. This isn't the first time he has been totally outrageous in recent years. Why aren't they protecting him from himself? Why are they letting these ridiculous episodes become his legacy, when he'd enjoyed decades of respect in his community? :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakven Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Excellent commentary on this: http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/09/15/the-gospel-emptying-cruelty-of-pat-robertson/ Great article Tracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy to monkeys Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 oy vey Pat Robertson gag me with a wooden spoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I think he has Alzheimer's himself! Believe it or not I used to watch him in the early nineties - he seemed to make more sense then. At least when it came to economical issues, he was usually right...back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dominion Heather Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Pat Robertson says that it's OK to divorce your wife if she has Alzheimers and cannot perform her wifely duties. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44530424/ns/health-alzheimers_disease/ astrid PR needs a keeper. He infuriates me. I keep hoping that whatever idiocy he has come out with lately will be the one that finishes him off. Our well-loved pastor resigned our church years ago, when his wife was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, in order to spend the rest of the time she had left caring for her ad her needs. The way he cares for her, changing her diapers, feeding her, and remembering their anniversary every year is one of the most touching and inspiring things I've ever witnessed. What a privilege to be loved like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLVD Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 You and me both. I am dumbfounded that people have ever respected him. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I am not at all convinced he ever had an appropriate filter. :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: And his comprehension skills need some work, too. What part of "in sickness AND in health" did he not comprehend? :001_rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 :001_wub: That's what I was going to post. I hope the world doesn't think most Christians align with him! FWIW, I don't. There are whackadoodles in every group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail4476 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I don't know that much about Pat Robertson because I don't waste time watching "Christian" shows on TV. :glare: However, he must have had some credibility at some point, because I had to show my husband the quote to prove that he really made the statement. DH was still worried that it might have been taken out of context. He gave truly sick advice, and if he's supposed to represent mainstream Christianity then I wish they would shut down his show. I don't need that kind of representation. Not that I would consider myself "mainstream" anyway. My mother stuck by my father in his last days as he succumbed to dementia, and he was often verbally abusive, physically violent and downright dangerous because of his size alone, even in his emaciated state. Still, she stuck it out with an integrity I hope I can copy and she loved him till the very end. I can't imagine her moving on and "starting over" simply because he could no longer be her husband in any sense of the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Excellent commentary on this: http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/09/15/the-gospel-emptying-cruelty-of-pat-robertson/ Did you click on the link at the end of the article to read this one? Made me cry. Now THAT is what we should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeannpal Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: And his comprehension skills need some work, too. What part of "in sickness AND in health" did he not comprehend? :001_rolleyes: I'm just sick that there are people who might actually take his words to heart. And this is not a Biblical stance on divorce by any means! My grandfather had a head injury that caused Alzheimer's like loss of faculties for the last 10 years of his life. My strongly Christian grandmother would not think of divorcing him even though he was in a nursing home with around the clock care starting at age 55. My grandmother was only in her early 50's/ She did remammary in her mid 60's, but not until my grandfather died. I admire the fact that she was willing to abide by her marriage vows even when her husband was not even able to know who she was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 So by his logic, should a woman be able to divorce her husband if he's impotent and can no longer perform his "husbandly" duties? Oh brother. It seems to me his misses the message that living with one who is suffering, one who can't love you back, changes you more to the image of the Suffering Christ than many things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadbhoward Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I think he is out there but wasn't his response to a situation where the husband was already cheating on his wife? Isn't that a little different than just saying, "Go and divorce your sick spouse b/c they are sick." Seems more like a well "if you are not going to honor your vows by being faithful than you should divorce her first." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail4476 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I think he is out there but wasn't his response to a situation where the husband was already cheating on his wife? Isn't that a little different than just saying, "Go and divorce your sick spouse b/c they are sick." Seems more like a well "if you are not going to honor your vows by being faithful than you should divorce her first." It seemed more like he gave the husband an excuse. ...to just consider the Alzheimer's to be like a "death" and therefore fulfilling the idea of "til death do us part." It comes across to me as, "Your wife is dead already, so moving on with another woman is no big deal." Pitiful advice. I hope he's fired. Probably won't be, though, considering the whackadoodles that fill Christian television and to borrow Audrey's term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpedIntoTheDeepEndFirst Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 "To have and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part..." Well, now that there is a line item veto on "in sickness" --- why can't any other line be vetoed? What would be the point of marriage vows in the first place? :banghead: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 It seemed more like he gave the husband an excuse. ...to just consider the Alzheimer's to be like a "death" and therefore fulfilling the idea of "til death do us part." It comes across to me as, "Your wife is dead already, so moving on with another woman is no big deal." Pitiful advice. I hope he's fired. Probably won't be, though, considering the whackadoodles that fill Christian television and to borrow Audrey's term. What would he be fired from, exactly? :lol: Doesn't he pretty much own most of that stuff? (the 700 club, etc...did he say this on the 700 club?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 The saddest thing about Pat Robertson is that he doesn't seem to have anyone in his life who truly loves him. If they did love him, they would cancel his TV and radio contracts, obtain P.O.A. if necessary and find a good doctor for him, and take a few other measures to get him entirely out of the public eye. He's obviously gone 'round the bend. At the least, he has lost his filter. This isn't the first time he has been totally outrageous in recent years. Why aren't they protecting him from himself? Why are they letting these ridiculous episodes become his legacy, when he'd enjoyed decades of respect in his community? That's a little harshly put, but I think you are onto the problem. My son asked me about this yesterday when he read it in the paper, and my first response was that he is pretty old man and just blurts out things he may not have said or thought years ago. Judge not, lest you be judged and all that. That's how I explained it. I also speculated whether he may be having this issue himself and is telling his wife what he wants. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 That's a little harshly put, but I think you are onto the problem. My son asked me about this yesterday when he read it in the paper, and my first response was that he is pretty old man and just blurts out things he may not have said or thought years ago. Judge not, lest you be judged and all that. That's how I explained it. I also speculated whether he may be having this issue himself and is telling his wife what he wants. Who knows? But he is a person of authority. It's not like grandpa sitting around in his living room spouting off information. It's not judgment to oppose what someone states in a public format. Many people are avid followers of Pat Robertson. I would speculate, because of the years he has been on TV, that many of those followers are elderly and perhaps dealing with ailing spouses. His comments could create a crisis of faith and loyalty to marriage for those who embrace his viewpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Let's pretend I am saying bad things about Pat Roberts here. I am not sure where the line is between "acceptable" and "yer banned!!!" on this topic. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Let's pretend I am saying bad things about Pat Roberts here. I am not sure where the line is between "acceptable" and "yer banned!!!" on this topic. :lol: And I'll pretend I'm shocked, but silently nod my head in agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 And I'll pretend I'm shocked, but silently nod my head in agreement. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annandatje Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I suspect that reporters call up Pat on a slow newsday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I sent my Christian friend a crossword puzzle book this week and she left me a bag of dog poo on my door step. I wet my pants laughing so hard, the kids though I'd lost my mind. :lol::lol::lol: When I called her, she told me in her sweetest voice ever, "Don't worry! I'm not that kind of Christian!" And that made me laugh even harder. :D So I've had a lot of fun with Pat Robertson this week. The freaking maniac... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama2cntrykids Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 gag me with a wooden spoon Well, I haven't heard that in forever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Our well-loved pastor resigned our church years ago, when his wife was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, in order to spend the rest of the time she had left caring for her ad her needs. The way he cares for her, changing her diapers, feeding her, and remembering their anniversary every year is one of the most touching and inspiring things I've ever witnessed. What a privilege to be loved like that. what a wonderful example of loving your spouse. thank you for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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