coffeefreak Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 sick, sick, sick, sick, sick http://pearlchildtraining.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-pearl-laughs-at-critics.htmlhttp://pearlchildtraining.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-pearl-laughs-at-critics.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer in MI Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Where's the little throwing up guy? This makes me want to cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraGB Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thank you for posting that. It really does speak volumes all by itself. I'm glad he responded. Yes. It is a very humorous thing, isn't it? :ack2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmen_and_Company Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 ". . .My granddaughters laugh with joy after giving their baby dolls a spanking for “being naughty. . .†Umm, the above quote is quite sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 sick, sick, sick, sick, sick http://pearlchildtraining.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-pearl-laughs-at-critics.htmlhttp://pearlchildtraining.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-pearl-laughs-at-critics.html Whatever one's opinion of the whole issue, his response is far from compassionate and gracious which is what would have been befitting the situation IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I will say it again. That man makes me want to vomit. He is a sick individual. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he beats his animals too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 This is it right here: Even my chickens are laughing . . . well, actually it more like cackling, because they just laid another organic egg for my breakfast and they know that it was that same piece of ¼ inch plastic supply line that trained the dogs not to eat chicken.... Children are not dogs. I wouldn't even treat my dogs as badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funschooler5 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That guy is completely out of his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smrtmama Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 What an inhuman, despicable, disgusting madman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeefreak Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thank you for posting that. It really does speak volumes all by itself. I'm glad he responded. Yes. It is a very humorous thing, isn't it? :ack2: You're welcome. I belong to a group that "watchdogs" him and that's how I got the link. I hope it settles his state of mind once and for all to everyone that thinks he has an ounce of *WHATEVER* in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty ethel rackham Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 What a megalomaniac! Like nobody but "his" could ever be trustworthy, industrious, etc. Just want to vomit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 ". . .My granddaughters laugh with joy after giving their baby dolls a spanking for “being naughty. . .†Umm, the above quote is quite sick. That's what I was about to comment on too. How often do you need to beat a little girl for it to become part of her play???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristineinKS Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Absolutely disgusting - how nice that they're all able to "laugh" in a situation like this. I find it especially repulsive that he had the nerve to pitch his book at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmom3tn Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I will say it again. That man makes me want to vomit. He is a sick individual. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he beats his animals too. :iagree: And it's sick that he's using this whole situation to try to sell more books. Get your own copy of TO TRAIN UP A CHILDand find out what all the squawking is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggieamy Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 There's no words for how disgusted this man makes me. Utterly disgusted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamturner Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I couldn't read the whole thing. All the grandchildren are going around laughing when they see their daddy, mommy, and grandparents because these people are all wearing rubber hoses around their necks. They are so scared all they can do is laugh out of fear! Sheesh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cara Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 What a sick individual... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnandtinagilbert Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I'm all for the Pearl's doing their thing. The whole to each their own, really. I don't believe they are responsible for the deaths of late, although I believe all people will be responsible for what we teach to others. Although many people don't spank, *I* believe spanking has its usefulness. So now you know where I'm coming from. Now, the article was gross, mocking, arrogant, and reprehensible. As if children raised their way will be the only well trained or happy, adjusted children. :glare:That was pretty gross. I did not appreciate his comical tone at all (I like their Help Meet book). Perhaps when his day comes, he'll get his own a$$ whoopin' from God for behaving so poorly. Until then, we won't be buying, reading or suggesting anything from them. What a shame that the good they encourage will not only be overshadowed by the tragedies, but also by his arrogance. Despicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBeaks Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Why are they in the news again? Did something new happen? Just curious as I'm apparently uninformed. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikin' Mama Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 People all around the world, in places like Russia, China, Germany, New Zealand, Guatemala, Peru, Africa, and fifty other countries are laughing with joy .... Well, color me unimpressed with this geographic wunderkind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i.love.lucy Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Wow. Just......wow. And to think I have a perfectly intelligent friend who recommends The Pearls books. :glare::ack2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4kiddies Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Unbelivable. :tongue_smilie: He truly is a maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That is so terribly despicable. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenL Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 What a caustic, arrogant man... disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Why are they in the news again? Did something new happen? Just curious as I'm apparently uninformed. :confused: There has been a case in CA where a child has died from abuse and the parents have stated that they followed the Pearl's Principles of Child Rearing (I am paraphrasing here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheila in OK Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 :iagree: Reading that made me literally feel sick. Whatever one's opinion of the whole issue, his response is far from compassionate and gracious which is what would have been befitting the situation IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I posted this in another thread (afraid it would get deleted if it was it's own thread ;)). The arrogance is apparent. :confused: The complete stupidity to make such a post when the issue being responded to by his critics is the death of a child. The idea that what his critics object to is the presence of "spanking". :001_huh: Having to assert happy, laughing children? Reminds me of the message board defense "I'm right because all these PMs tell me the same thing." A child is dead. Is he not smart enough to shut up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna T. Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 "Even my chickens are laughing . . . well, actually it more like cackling, because they just laid another organic egg for my breakfast and they know that it was that same piece of ¼ inch plastic supply line that trained the dogs not to eat chicken...." Wow. Just wow. He has gone way too far here. Regardless to what one thinks about spanking, this is above and beyond anything sane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2jjka Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That. was. horrendous. Isaiah 2:12 The LORD Almighty has a day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber in SJ Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That man is just horrifying. I would love to leave a comment on his blog but to do so would require becoming a member and that is something I would never do. I find it very telling that Pearl claims that all good children, and all well adjusted adults are his. Pearl does not glorify God in any way nor aknowledge that all good comes from Him. To Mr. Pearl I would like to say; Whenever a mother finds herself going too far in taking your parenting advice and beating her child, may she find a loving counselor to help her do better. That counselor will be one of His. Whenever a parent finds himself in the unthinkable situation of being incarcerated for having murdered a child by following your advice, may they find a forgiving pastor or minister to help him. That pastor will be one of His. Whenever a child grows up to be an adult with an empty hole in his heart where safety, security and love from parents should be, and instead finds only fear and pain because, not only did his parents beat him but expressed their delight in doing so on your advice; may he find a friend to lead him to the healer of all sorrows, the Savior, Jesus Christ. That friend will be one of His. When a young adult finds herself terrified to hold her newborn baby because the only example she has ever seen are those who followed your advice and abused their infants, may she find someone who will show her a better way; the loving way to raise a child. That someone will be one of His. When you pass from this life, Mr. Pearl, do you expect that the Savior will meet you with a whip around his neck to give you what you deserve? No he will meet you with his palms upraised to show the wounds he received in atoning for your sins so you wouldn't have to feel the whip. Then he will ask you why you caused so much pain and suffering, sorrow and heartbreak in His name. I wonder what the answer will be. Just my 2 cents, Amber in SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 He says "laughing", I hear manical cackling. Just plain creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That man is just horrifying. I would love to leave a comment on his blog but to do so would require becoming a member and that is something I would never do. I find it very telling that Pearl claims that all good children, and all well adjusted adults are his. Pearl does not glorify God in any way nor aknowledge that all good comes from Him. To Mr. Pearl I would like to say; Whenever a mother finds herself going too far in taking your parenting advice and beating her child, may she find a loving counselor to help her do better. That counselor will be one of His. Whenever a parent finds himself in the unthinkable situation of being incarcerated for having murdered a child by following your advice, may they find a forgiving pastor or minister to help him. That pastor will be one of His. Whenever a child grows up to be an adult with an empty hole in his heart where safety, security and love from parents should be, and instead finds only fear and pain because, not only did his parents beat him but expressed their delight in doing so on your advice; may he find a friend to lead him to the healer of all sorrows, the Savior, Jesus Christ. That friend will be one of His. When a young adult finds herself terrified to hold her newborn baby because the only example she has ever seen are those who followed your advice and abused their infants, may she find someone who will show her a better way; the loving way to raise a child. That someone will be one of His. When you pass from this life, Mr. Pearl, do you expect that the Savior will meet you with a whip around his neck to give you what you deserve? No he will meet you with his palms upraised to show the wounds he received in atoning for your sins so you wouldn't have to feel the whip. Then he will ask you why you caused so much pain and suffering, sorrow and heartbreak in His name. I wonder what the answer will be. Just my 2 cents, Amber in SJ Well said. Full of grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeefreak Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 That man is just horrifying. I would love to leave a comment on his blog but to do so would require becoming a member and that is something I would never do. I find it very telling that Pearl claims that all good children, and all well adjusted adults are his. Pearl does not glorify God in any way nor aknowledge that all good comes from Him. To Mr. Pearl I would like to say; Whenever a mother finds herself going too far in taking your parenting advice and beating her child, may she find a loving counselor to help her do better. That counselor will be one of His. Whenever a parent finds himself in the unthinkable situation of being incarcerated for having murdered a child by following your advice, may they find a forgiving pastor or minister to help him. That pastor will be one of His. Whenever a child grows up to be an adult with an empty hole in his heart where safety, security and love from parents should be, and instead finds only fear and pain because, not only did his parents beat him but expressed their delight in doing so on your advice; may he find a friend to lead him to the healer of all sorrows, the Savior, Jesus Christ. That friend will be one of His. When a young adult finds herself terrified to hold her newborn baby because the only example she has ever seen are those who followed your advice and abused their infants, may she find someone who will show her a better way; the loving way to raise a child. That someone will be one of His. When you pass from this life, Mr. Pearl, do you expect that the Savior will meet you with a whip around his neck to give you what you deserve? No he will meet you with his palms upraised to show the wounds he received in atoning for your sins so you wouldn't have to feel the whip. Then he will ask you why you caused so much pain and suffering, sorrow and heartbreak in His name. I wonder what the answer will be. Just my 2 cents, Amber in SJ Amber, WOW! You brought tears to my eyes. That was truly amazing, and absolutely true. Dorinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Creepy, weird laughter. :glare: Yes and only members of his blog may comment. How controlling. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeBookBread Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Psalm 73:6 Therefore pride is their necklace; violence covers them as a garment. Read the entire Psalm. He just doesn't know when to stop does he? I believe he's blinded by his own lust for power and control. Pure evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisamarie Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 :iagree: I've never read anything by them, just know what I've read from people posting about them. I admit to being mildly curious about just what was in their books until I read this response. The guy is a fruitcake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 That man is just horrifying. I would love to leave a comment on his blog but to do so would require becoming a member and that is something I would never do. I find it very telling that Pearl claims that all good children, and all well adjusted adults are his. Pearl does not glorify God in any way nor aknowledge that all good comes from Him. To Mr. Pearl I would like to say; Whenever a mother finds herself going too far in taking your parenting advice and beating her child, may she find a loving counselor to help her do better. That counselor will be one of His. Whenever a parent finds himself in the unthinkable situation of being incarcerated for having murdered a child by following your advice, may they find a forgiving pastor or minister to help him. That pastor will be one of His. Whenever a child grows up to be an adult with an empty hole in his heart where safety, security and love from parents should be, and instead finds only fear and pain because, not only did his parents beat him but expressed their delight in doing so on your advice; may he find a friend to lead him to the healer of all sorrows, the Savior, Jesus Christ. That friend will be one of His. When a young adult finds herself terrified to hold her newborn baby because the only example she has ever seen are those who followed your advice and abused their infants, may she find someone who will show her a better way; the loving way to raise a child. That someone will be one of His. When you pass from this life, Mr. Pearl, do you expect that the Savior will meet you with a whip around his neck to give you what you deserve? No he will meet you with his palms upraised to show the wounds he received in atoning for your sins so you wouldn't have to feel the whip. Then he will ask you why you caused so much pain and suffering, sorrow and heartbreak in His name. I wonder what the answer will be. Just my 2 cents, Amber in SJ Wow! Great post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferB Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I have commented a few times that I am one who has read and gleaned/used some things from TTUAC and the Help Meet book. I've never been a fervent follower of TTUAC, but I have read several of the free newsletters, and I never thought of their materials as totally objectionable. I found a few things harsh, but I dismissed them, and didn't think much more of it. Since all this has happened, and since I've read many of the links posted here and on other blogs/forums, I will no longer read their materials in a state of an open mind. If I do read their materials now, it will be to keep myself aware of what they are writing, because some in my church have followed their methods. But, I will no longer take their parenting advice as a valid option for healthy parenting. I'm not to a point of totally rejecting spanking, but I do reject the attitude and spirit that comes from the Pearls. This statement from Michael Pearl was very weird to me. I've never noticed such a weirdness in his tone. He often writes in a tone of sarcasm, but this was beyond sarcasm. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I do believe that God disciplines His children sometimes, but picture Him with tears in His eyes, versus some type of "laughing God over our sadness." I'm one of the ones who has defended reading with Wisdom... tons of books... and I didn't take any of the book to extreme. But, even I.... read the Pearl's response and see no humility, sadness, love for the child who was killed, compassion for parents who didn't understand.... who wanted to do good... but lead themselves down the wrong road. I don't believe God laughs when one of His children are killed in the name of discipline. Surely there must have been a different response of sorrow that was possible. God help those who lack humility..... Sad for the influence that could have been for good... that is now for evil. Perhaps Mike Pearl should try a kleenex and prayer... instead of selling more books. It's a sad day for followers of Christ. Where is his earthly accountability?? Where is his church?? ;-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 II'm not to a point of totally rejecting spanking, but I do reject the attitude and spirit that comes from the Pearls. : Most people objecting to the Pearls aren't objecting to the presence of "spanking" but areas of unhealth, dysfunction and scriptural twisting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Not ONE WORD of compassion for the child that was murdered-I guess that would be admitting guilt? Egomaniac. Amber, your post was beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 That makes me want to throw up. He is an arrogant, self-righteous SOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 It's a sad day for followers of Christ. Where is his earthly accountability?? Where is his church?? ;-( I may be wrong, but is he not the *pastor*? If so, there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 http://www.rickross.com/reference/fundamentalists/fund180.html This mentions he is pastor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peela Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I've never read anything by them, just know what I've read from people posting about them. I admit to being mildly curious about just what was in their books until I read this response. The guy is a fruitcake. :iagree:I never read anything either other than what was written here. The man is obviously a fruitcake- unfortunately, a dangerous one. I now have him mentally pegged alongside cult leaders who have their cult followers all commit suicide, or who have sex with underage girls. To me, its pretty much of the same level of twisted (and I am not particularly anti spanking either). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Fairy Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Personally, I'm thrilled that Michael Pearl has unmasked himself. It's not good enough for people who were already convinced of the flaws in his methods to say, "Yep, he's twisted all right." I want those who have had their ears tickled by his words to see what a complete lack of humility and compassion he demonstrates, and to ask themselves if this is a man they want to defend and whose methods they want to employ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 That man is just horrifying. I would love to leave a comment on his blog but to do so would require becoming a member and that is something I would never do. I find it very telling that Pearl claims that all good children, and all well adjusted adults are his. Pearl does not glorify God in any way nor aknowledge that all good comes from Him. To Mr. Pearl I would like to say; Whenever a mother finds herself going too far in taking your parenting advice and beating her child, may she find a loving counselor to help her do better. That counselor will be one of His. Whenever a parent finds himself in the unthinkable situation of being incarcerated for having murdered a child by following your advice, may they find a forgiving pastor or minister to help him. That pastor will be one of His. Whenever a child grows up to be an adult with an empty hole in his heart where safety, security and love from parents should be, and instead finds only fear and pain because, not only did his parents beat him but expressed their delight in doing so on your advice; may he find a friend to lead him to the healer of all sorrows, the Savior, Jesus Christ. That friend will be one of His. When a young adult finds herself terrified to hold her newborn baby because the only example she has ever seen are those who followed your advice and abused their infants, may she find someone who will show her a better way; the loving way to raise a child. That someone will be one of His. When you pass from this life, Mr. Pearl, do you expect that the Savior will meet you with a whip around his neck to give you what you deserve?No he will meet you with his palms upraised to show the wounds he received in atoning for your sins so you wouldn't have to feel the whip. Then he will ask you why you caused so much pain and suffering, sorrow and heartbreak in His name. I wonder what the answer will be. Just my 2 cents, Amber in SJ Beautiful post!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPlaceLikeHome Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 :ack2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 :iagree:I never read anything either other than what was written here. The man is obviously a fruitcake- unfortunately, a dangerous one. I now have him mentally pegged alongside cult leaders who have their cult followers all commit suicide, or who have sex with underage girls. To me, its pretty much of the same level of twisted (and I am not particularly anti spanking either). Ahhh.. he is like a cult leader, isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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