Teaching3bears Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 My special needs teen sons had a rough night. My oldest could not sleep last night and he laughed all night which woke up his brother. His brother slept this morning but when he woke up his face was puffy and he is limping badly. We went through this last summer. He limped for a few weeks and then got over it but this seems worse and what if he broke his leg? Nothing seems swollen but this normally hyperactive boy is really going slow and and avoiding using it though he was laughing for an hour when he first woke up. My oldest has been laughing all morning really loudly which probably woke him up. All the loud laughing is really getting to me. I did not sleep last night and I am feeling very sad about the bad night and my son limping. It's just hard to hear so much laughing. I tried reading to them and they were laughing and then my oldest started to fall asleep so I brought him upstairs but he got hyper once he got there even though I was reading again and then he took off all his clothes three times till I gave up and brought him down. My life is very difficult and doesn't make sense. I sometimes wonder if there is some spiritual reason our lives are so bad and my children are suffering so much. I feel like eating lots and lots of candy. Homeschooling was going well and we were reading so much until last night. I am thinking of getting my sons tested for drugs. The weird laughing makes me feel like they have drugs in their system. My oldest has been laughing like this since he was two and stopped talking. I am not talking about real drugs because they are with me all the time just like babies because their special needs are so severe but I feel like it's almost like their bodies produce drugs. I wonder if I could get them tested for drugs, both illegal and over the counter? I understand this post will not make much sense. It is full of run-on sentences and I live a really really weird and surreal life and the post makes me come across as crazy but I am not and just needed to vent. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink and Green Mom Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Hugs and prayers to you. I'm so sorry. What you are going through sounds very tough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Many (hugs) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaching3bears Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Medicmom2.0 said: It’s not drugs. Don’t bother drug testing; you know they aren’t accessing drugs and people’s bodies don’t create drugs. Especially if it’s been going on since he was 2. It sounds like a seizure. There is a type of seizure that presents as uncontrollable laughing, often high pitched and unusual. I am sure your SN children have seen neurology and this is something I would bring up to a neurologist. I also have two special needs sons. Life is...very difficult many days. I hope you can find some answers. It just looks like he's on drugs. I did discuss it. The neurologist did not think the laughing was seizures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsheresomewhere Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 45 minutes ago, Teaching3bears said: It just looks like he's on drugs. I did discuss it. The neurologist did not think the laughing was seizures. Bring it up again and maybe with a new neurologist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 53 minutes ago, Teaching3bears said: It just looks like he's on drugs. I did discuss it. The neurologist did not think the laughing was seizures. Can you tape it and show it to them? I'm so sorry! Your concerns need to be heard. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I am praying for you. I am very sorry that you are carrying such a heavy burden. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Skippy said: I am praying for you. I am very sorry that you are carrying such a heavy burden. I’m praying, too. I wish I had some help or advice for you, but this is completely out of my league. I’m so sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumto2 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Just now, Catwoman said: I’m praying, too. I wish I had some help or advice for you, but this is completely out of my league. I’m so sorry. Same for me.......I am sending hugs and prayers too! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippiemamato3 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Could he be hearing voices and that's why he's laughing? A psych eval might help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanier.1765 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Hugs from me too. I am just so sorry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 When was the last time you got a solid six hours of sleep? When was the last time you were out with a friend for a couple of hours to relax? When was your last date with your dh? Your post does not come across to me as crazy and surreal. Your posts makes me think you are very tired, very lonely, and looking for some hope that things are rooted in some physical problem that is going to get better. I'm sorry things are so rough right now. I hope you get some good sleep soon. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Just sending gentle hugs as I have no advice. That sounds extremely challenging. Is it possible that the laughter is related to pain if his leg is hurting? It could Invoke a different than expected response. Is it possible for you to have some respite care occasionally and get some quiet time for yourself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbutton Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Teaching3bears said: My special needs teen sons had a rough night. My oldest could not sleep last night and he laughed all night which woke up his brother. His brother slept this morning but when he woke up his face was puffy and he is limping badly. Fibromyalgia? https://www.verywellhealth.com/morning-symptoms-of-fibromyalgia-716013 Also, maybe they are experiencing some form of this: https://www.verywellhealth.com/allodynia-definition-and-types-fibromyalgia-715929 My mom gets allodynia in her feet--she's been through just about every kind of socks known to mankind. Some start out okay, but then as they get washed, the fabric changes, and they irritate her. I am sorry that your life doesn't make sense right now. It did make me think of this song (there is more to it at the link), and I am praying that you will feel held: Quote Well, sometimes my life just don't make sense at all When the mountains look so big, And my faith just seems so small So hold me Jesus, Cause I'm shaking like a leaf You have been King of my glory Won't You be my Prince of Peace... https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/965658/Rich+Mullins/Hold+Me+Jesus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mominco Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (((hugs))) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeachyDoodle Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Hugs and prayers. That sounds so hard. ❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaching3bears Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, hippiemamato3 said: Could he be hearing voices and that's why he's laughing? A psych eval might help. I have asked him about voices. He has always indicated that he is not. He just cannot control the laughing and he does not like laughing this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaching3bears Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Ausmumof3 said: Just sending gentle hugs as I have no advice. That sounds extremely challenging. Is it possible that the laughter is related to pain if his leg is hurting? It could Invoke a different than expected response. Is it possible for you to have some respite care occasionally and get some quiet time for yourself. Both boys were laughing. The older boy was laughing the most and kept us up all night. He was not the one with the hurt leg. He fell asleep at around 2:00 this afternoon and now it is 6pm. I don't know when he will wake up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaching3bears Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 I think he pulled a muscle or hurt his knee in some way. It is not swollen or red at all but he is really having trouble walking and going up and down steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73349 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Sleep deprivation makes everything harder. Hugs to you, T3b. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 HUGE HUGS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I've heard commercials on tv about PBA...Pseudobulbar Affect. I found info about it here: http://www.pbainfo.org/about-pba The website says that PBA is related to some neurological conditions, although I didn't see autism mentioned. I'm so sorry for all that you and your family are going through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, prairiewindmomma said: When was the last time you got a solid six hours of sleep? When was the last time you were out with a friend for a couple of hours to relax? When was your last date with your dh? Your post does not come across to me as crazy and surreal. Your posts makes me think you are very tired, very lonely, and looking for some hope that things are rooted in some physical problem that is going to get better. I'm sorry things are so rough right now. I hope you get some good sleep soon. You wrote exactly what I was going to write. Teachingbear, you need some respite. Everyone does. Even those with NT children need a break. It sounds like you are doing this 24/7 without any breaks and not even a break at night because of frequent interruptions. Do you work with a social worker, an agency, someone who can point you in the direction of obtaining respite care? Of course you feel like you are coming across as crazy but those of us who have read many of your posts know that you seem to deal with this all by yourself and nobody could do this alone or with a dh. You are certainly not crazy but you need some rest. Both of you must be totally drained. Edited February 7, 2019 by Liz CA 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottakee Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Have they tried a mood stabilizing seizure med at all for your son? The laughing and hyper sounds similar to mania. Mine takes Risperdal (anti psychotic), Lamictal (seizure and mood med) and Lithium ( mood stabilizer). It has helped so much. I agree that you need some respite but I also know how hard that can be to come by. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaching3bears Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 He is walking better today, though still limping. I am so grateful! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 hugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 20 hours ago, Ottakee said: Have they tried a mood stabilizing seizure med at all for your son? The laughing and hyper sounds similar to mania. Mine takes Risperdal (anti psychotic), Lamictal (seizure and mood med) and Lithium ( mood stabilizer). It has helped so much. I agree that you need some respite but I also know how hard that can be to come by. Yes, these were my other thoughts... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innisfree Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I'm glad he's feeling better today. Investigating the laughter more, with videos and a new neurologist, might be worthwhile. I wish I could offer help in person. You're carrying such a heavy load. Would school enrollment be an option, perhaps? It would at least get you a few hours daily to care for yourself. Your health is important. So many people depend on you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaching3bears Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 So, now they both have bad colds. The giggly often coincides with colds. Putting them in school is not an option and homeschooling has been absolute biggest blessing in their lives. My health is generally fine (unless I catch this cold). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innisfree Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Hugs, Teaching3Bears. I hope you can find some help for your boys and for you. I'm sorry about the colds, illness doesn't help anything. When I mentioned your health I was thinking in a more wholistic sense, though: more that so much stress has to be hard to deal with, and sometimes I find I need to put on my own oxygen mask first, kwim? And while I do have a dd on the spectrum, I'm not dealing with anything remotely like you are. So, you might need some stress relief too. On 2/6/2019 at 3:46 PM, prairiewindmomma said: When was the last time you got a solid six hours of sleep? When was the last time you were out with a friend for a couple of hours to relax? When was your last date with your dh? Your post does not come across to me as crazy and surreal. Your posts makes me think you are very tired, very lonely, and looking for some hope that things are rooted in some physical problem that is going to get better. I'm sorry things are so rough right now. I hope you get some good sleep soon. What prairiewindmomma said, in other words. More hugs and best wishes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 You don’t sound crazy, just tired. I pray you’re able to get some rest🌺 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mominco Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (((hugs))) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 More hugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Oh, hon. I am so very sorry. I wish there was something I could do for you. Hugs and prayers. ❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumto2 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hugs and praying you don’t catch the cold! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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