SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I would buy them, but they always have onions in them. So I want to make one that is so creamy. That just never happens. It gets dry. They don't taste bad, but just they don't stay creamy. Maybe the creamy ones look better than they are, but I don't know how they do it. Chemicals probably right? So which chemicals do I need? LOL 1 Quote
kewb Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I always assumed it was because they are drowning in mayonnaise. I believe they also add extra oil and vinegar with the mayonnaise. 2 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 I always assumed it was because they are drowning in mayonnaise. I believe they also add extra oil and vinegar with the mayonnaise. See it can't be because I use plenty of mayo. Mayo itself isn't really so runny. At least not the one I buy. Quote
marbel Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Yes, lots of mayonnaise. And, I think they overcook the macaroni a bit. I love those salads. I bought some at the deli counter the other day. It was so good. My family despises the stuff so I don't bother making it. 2 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 How do you make your macaroni salad? I use my mom's recipe. Macaroni, a large chopped green pepper, a large chopped tomato, and then Miracle Whip, which I just eyeball. It has to be Miracle Whip and not mayo, but it stays plenty creamy. I have not made one in a very long time, but I always used mayo. I severely dislike Miracle Whip though. So if that is the answer..hmmm. LOL 2 Quote
Kim in Appalachia Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 The one at Walmart has sour cream in it, so that would make it extra creamy. 2 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 Yes, lots of mayonnaise. And, I think they overcook the macaroni a bit. I love those salads. I bought some at the deli counter the other day. It was so good. My family despises the stuff so I don't bother making it. I keep hoping I'll find one without onions. I did read years ago a recipe that said to overcook the macaroni. I haven't tried that yet. Quote
barnwife Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 My mom always adds a dash of milk to hers. 2 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 See I have tried the milk thing, the sour cream thing, etc. It's creamy right when it's made, but then that's it. It's not shortly after. Quote
MeghansMom Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Have you tried Aldis? I don't think their's has onion and you get a good size tub for $2.49. Not that I know anything about that. :leaving: 4 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 My DH HATES Miracle Whip. HATES it. But won't eat the mac salad without it. And I actually hate all mayo and miracle whip on ANYTHING.....except the mac salad (and mixed in with the mustard in potato salad.) Mac salad is actually the only reason I even buy miracle whip. I think I've been traumatized by MW. LOL When I was a kid my parents were both in the hospital at the same time for oh gee 3 months. So we stayed with an uncle and aunt who had no kids. So they'd make us lunch for school and they made tuna with large chunks of raw onion and MW. Now tuna I like ok. Raw onions....I'd starve before eating them (they make me puke literally)...and the MW just put me over the edge. So I tried to eat it the first time and I still can taste it over 30 years later. GAG. So I went without lunch for a very long time and since won't touch MW either. The school finally contacted them to say we weren't eating lunch. I was too afraid to say anything. I didn't want to give them a hard time. They just truly thought we'd enjoy the sandwiches because that was their favorite. They did make something else after. And my husband tells a traumatic tale involving MW. His grandmother when old had no taste buds after awhile so she'd make this macaroni salad that was basically a gallon of MW, a gallon of white vinegar, and a pound of salt. He said it was the most vile thing in the history of vile things. So he'd probably leave me if I bought MW. LOL 5 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 Have you tried Aldis? I don't think their's has onion and you get a good size tub for $2.49. Not that I know anything about that. :leaving: It definitely does have onion. There is even an onion on the picture on the label. Quote
Tap Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I think the problem you are having is that you need to increase your sauce. The pasta absorbs the sauce over time. When I make it, I make it a little extra saucy and then after it sits for 2 hour or so, the sauce is absorbed and it is fine after that. Maybe try one of the recipes from one of the southern cooks like Paula Deen, Hellmans mayo recipee Or Pioneer Woman. Quote
Suzanne in ABQ Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) The pasta absorbs all the water out of the mayo, and I have no idea what to do about it other than eat it right away. I've wondered the same thing about pasta dishes. How do the packagers produce a product that doesn't just absorb all the water out of the tomato sauce? Is there a special thing they do to the pasta that stops the absorption process? I honestly have no idea. Fortunately, one of the things I love about homemade macaroni salad is that it's dry! You get all the wonderful flavor without all the slime! :) (You're not missing anything by not eating store bought macaroni salad. It always has this weird chemical taste that leaves a metal aftertaste. -- It's probably the chemical they use to keep the macaroni from absorbing the water from the mayo!) Edited July 21, 2016 by Suzanne in ABQ 1 Quote
foxbridgeacademy Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I put actual cream in mine, it helps. Also I'll put a dollop of sour cream if it's a ranch flavored salad. 1 Quote
zoobie Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I keep hoping I'll find one without onions. I did read years ago a recipe that said to overcook the macaroni. I haven't tried that yet. I think you asked for recipes in the recent-ish past? The Hawaiian one I linked overcooks the pasta and stays creamy. There may be green onions in the recipe, but that's an easy omission. :) 1 Quote
Princess Ariel Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 A chicken salad I used to love at a local grocery store deli actually had cool whip added to it (I asked and they told me). I haven't had it in years due to now being gluten free. But it was really creamy. Quote
Carrie12345 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I always assumed it was because they are drowning in mayonnaise. I believe they also add extra oil and vinegar with the mayonnaise. I agree. There's no way that's JUST mayo (or MW, or sour cream.) Oil makes sense for the texture. Vinegar makes some sense for the tang, but I'm pretty confident many of them add sugar, too. 1 Quote
Carrie12345 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 And the Miracle Whip/mayo argument is a big one in our house. I absolutely cannot stand Miracle Whip and would rather starve. Not that I use any mayo or mayo-ish product on anything but salads. Dh can at least withstand real mayonnaise, even if it's not his first choice. So you'll only find MW in my house when I'm feeling extra nice (and not so hungry.) Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 I think you asked for recipes in the recent-ish past? The Hawaiian one I linked overcooks the pasta and stays creamy. There may be green onions in the recipe, but that's an easy omission. :) I did. I wonder if I missed it. I don't think I got many responses. I'll go look for it! Thanks. Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 I think the problem you are having is that you need to increase your sauce. The pasta absorbs the sauce over time. When I make it, I make it a little extra saucy and then after it sits for 2 hour or so, the sauce is absorbed and it is fine after that. Maybe try one of the recipes from one of the southern cooks like Paula Deen, Hellmans mayo recipee Or Pioneer Woman. I don't know. I seriously HAVE used plenty...more than plenty of mayo. There is something they are doing different in the store. I just want to know what on earth it is! Quote
KungFuPanda Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I put sour cream in my potato salad along with the mayonnaise. The answer to creaminess is always cream. 3 Quote
Corraleno Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I did read years ago a recipe that said to overcook the macaroni. I haven't tried that yet. Overcooking the macaroni makes sense because it would maximize the amount of water it absorbs while cooking, therefore minimizing the amount it would suck out of the mayonnaise/dressing. Rinsing it well in cold water would also get rid of any extra starch on the surface that would suck up liquid. (I never rinse pasta that's served hot, because in that case you want the sauce to cling to the pasta. With macaroni salad, it seems like you'd want the macaroni to be more "slippery" so the sauce doesn't cling to it so much.) Pioneer Woman uses mayo, vinegar, sugar, pickle juice, and a little milk. But the key (to her recipe at least) seems to be to add only 3/4 of the dressing, then chill, then add the rest after it's absorbed some of the dressing. 6 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 I'm happy with the way my potato salads come out. Quote
SproutMamaK Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 My secret: hard boil some eggs. Chop the egg whites and incorporate them in to the pasta salad. Take the yolkd and beat them with some mayo and a hint of mustard and dill (and vinegar), or basically however you like your deviled eggs. Add that to your usual pasta salad dressing. It makes it SUPER rich and creamy, and seems less prone to drying out. 1 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 My secret: hard boil some eggs. Chop the egg whites and incorporate them in to the pasta salad. Take the yolkd and beat them with some mayo and a hint of mustard and dill (and vinegar), or basically however you like your deviled eggs. Add that to your usual pasta salad dressing. It makes it SUPER rich and creamy, and seems less prone to drying out. That sounds good. I'm going to try that. Quote
Joyofsixreboot Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Just stir in some more mayo/sour cream mixed before serving each time. The macaroni absorbs a lot. But my favorite is Mexican pasta salad which uses sour cream, mayo and salsa. But I use MW because I don't like mayo. 1 Quote
Ausmumof3 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I have like no idea but I wonder if you mixed the pasta with a little oil to lightly coat it first whether it would stop it taking up the moisture out the sauce? I'm the only one who likes it in our house so I never make it, but the recipe I like does have sour cream. 3 Quote
happi duck Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I want macaroni salad! *whines* For some reason Mac salad is a party food for us so we never make it under normal circumstances. (Plus it's my sister's specialty so I'm used to just enjoying it not making it!) 1 Quote
foxbridgeacademy Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) The whole MW Mayo thing is weird for me. I used to only eat MW, I thought Mayo was gross. Then I bought Mayo for a recipe and suddenly started liking it.... now I can't stand MW and I've made the family switch too. I started eating a lot of different things around that same time, especially vegetables. Anyway.... adding cream and even milk to the salad before you store will give the pasta something to soak up which makes the noodles fat and leaves a lot of "sauce". ETA, and I do put oil on the pasta first so that could be a factor. Edited July 20, 2016 by foxbridgeacademy Quote
SamanthaCarter Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 I think at least part of it could be chilling the cooked pasta BEFORE you make it into salad. And lots of dressing. 1 Quote
MeghansMom Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 It definitely does have onion. There is even an onion on the picture on the label. Hmm I just ate this last week for several days with my lunch and did not notice any onion. I just love how creamy it is. Of course I have now moved it to my banned list with oreos and puffy Cheetos and trail mix. :-( 1 Quote
HeWillSoar Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 How do you make your macaroni salad? I use my mom's recipe. Macaroni, a large chopped green pepper, a large chopped tomato, and then Miracle Whip, which I just eyeball. It has to be Miracle Whip and not mayo, but it stays plenty creamy. I just made this today and it was so easy and delicious! I would have never thought to use Miracle Whip. The one and only time I use It is for leftover Thanksgiving turkey on sourdough bread. Thanks for posting your mom's recipe. Normally if I make macaroni salad, I just use Marzetti's cole slaw sauce that comes premade in a jar. 1 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 21, 2016 Author Posted July 21, 2016 Normally if I make macaroni salad, I just use Marzetti's cole slaw sauce that comes premade in a jar. Hah. I just bought a jar of that for coleslaw and I thought huh...I bet this would work for macaroni salad. So my plan is to try that next. 2 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 21, 2016 Author Posted July 21, 2016 The whole MW Mayo thing is weird for me. I used to only eat MW, I thought Mayo was gross. Then I bought Mayo for a recipe and suddenly started liking it.... now I can't stand MW and I've made the family switch too. I started eating a lot of different things around that same time, especially vegetables. Anyway.... adding cream and even milk to the salad before you store will give the pasta something to soak up which makes the noodles fat and leaves a lot of "sauce". ETA, and I do put oil on the pasta first so that could be a factor. I guess for me...I don't understand what MW is. It tastes like nothing else to me. Quote
hornblower Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) Those of you who want to do more taste testing should try out Hampton Creek's Just Mayo & the Hellman's competition called Carefully Crafted (which came out just after they unsuccessfully tried to block Just Mayo from the market). Both are vegan - completely egg-free (& therefore cholesterol free) (MW isn't) Edited July 21, 2016 by hornblower 1 Quote
SparklyUnicorn Posted July 21, 2016 Author Posted July 21, 2016 Hellman's is my favorite brand. That's what I always use. 2 Quote
vonfirmath Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 And the Miracle Whip/mayo argument is a big one in our house. I absolutely cannot stand Miracle Whip and would rather starve. Not that I use any mayo or mayo-ish product on anything but salads. Dh can at least withstand real mayonnaise, even if it's not his first choice. So you'll only find MW in my house when I'm feeling extra nice (and not so hungry.) In our house, it is Miracle Whip all the way. My husband's dad tried to "Fool" him by making a sandwich with white stuff on it (He was sure DH really could not tell the difference between MW and mayo and was just doing it to be difficult) and not telling him what it was. After one bite, my husband gagged and refused to eat anymore. He can taste the egg in Mayonaise and can't stand it. He doesn't like French toast or such either. Only stuff where the egg is completely incorporated passes muster. Since I grew up thinking "Mayonaise" meant Miracle Whip, we get along just fine. Quote
katilac Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 (He was sure DH really could not tell the difference between MW and mayo and was just doing it to be difficult) How could dh's dad possibly think that MW and mayo taste alike? I will eat either, but they aren't that similar! Quote
shawthorne44 Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 My theory is that it is like leftover pasta. it has to be oversauced when stored because the pasta absorbs the water. Quote
ktgrok Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Those of you who want to do more taste testing should try out Hampton Creek's Just Mayo & the Hellman's competition called Carefully Crafted (which came out just after they unsuccessfully tried to block Just Mayo from the market). Both are vegan - completely egg-free (& therefore cholesterol free) (MW isn't) Hornblower, I love you, and I'm a former vegan, but those things are not in the same family as mayonnaise, lol. Hellman's mayonnaise is good because you can taste the egg in it. Remove the eggs and it is kind of pointless. But then, I never got into the whole tofu scramble thing either. Nothing really replaces the taste of egg. And eating cholesterol doesn't raise cholesterol. (eating fat may, but eating cholesterol doesn't). Quote
happi duck Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 In our house, it is Miracle Whip all the way. My husband's dad tried to "Fool" him by making a sandwich with white stuff on it (He was sure DH really could not tell the difference between MW and mayo and was just doing it to be difficult) and not telling him what it was. After one bite, my husband gagged and refused to eat anymore. He can taste the egg in Mayonaise and can't stand it. He doesn't like French toast or such either. Only stuff where the egg is completely incorporated passes muster. Since I grew up thinking "Mayonaise" meant Miracle Whip, we get along just fine. Ha! I grew up with mw and we called it mayo too! The first time I had real mayo I was so confused why it tasted so terrible. 1 Quote
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