CalicoKat Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 do I have the right to ask her to remove them?! I just joined facebook and I was shocked to see these pictures of my kids. She nanny'd for us back in January. Obviously these were taken with her camera phone. So that begs the question, "Can I tell future babysitters NOT to use their cell phone cameras to take pictures of my kids." I won't be able to control this, obviously, but do I have the right to ask it of them. I do feel a bit like privacy has been invaded here. What would you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Does she say who they are? Would anyone know they were your kids? If they are posted without being labelled or named, I wouldn't be too concerned. In any case, if it upsets you I would definitely ask her to take them off. They are your kids, after all. JMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 If you have contact w/her, I would ask her nicely to remove them, tell her you feel uncomfortable they are on the web, and you dont even post your own on the web. Thats just a little creepy to me. Jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 60+ ?! Sorry, but either she is simply immature (how old?) or that would raise red flags to me. I have only formal pictures that were given to me by the parents of the children I cared for and ONE picture that one of my charges wanted to take of me with his little brothers (and their mother wasn't pleased, but was okay that it wasn't more than one and because it was my last day with them). Pictures of other people's children, even if one is their nanny, should always and only be done with parental consent. They are also your children. You do have a right to gently explain that you have concerns with your children's pictures being posted on the internet due to safety, etc and could she please removed them from her facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*anj* Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think it would be okay for you to ask her to remove them. Maybe you could pick out a few of the less clear ones and let her leave those up? She really should've asked you first. People need to know that they can't just go around doing that.:glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StacyinKS Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think you should explain that it makes you uncomfortable to have your children't photos online, and that you would appreciate it if she removed the photos...And 60 photos?? That wouldn't sit too well with me either. I could maybe understand a couple of photos, but not 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalicoKat Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Does she say who they are? Would anyone know they were your kids? If they are posted without being labelled or named, I wouldn't be too concerned. In any case, if it upsets you I would definitely ask her to take them off. They are your kids, after all. JMHO. yes, she's clearly labeled each picture with their names. she is very immature -- that's why she's the former nanny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 yes, she's clearly labeled each picture with their names. she is very immature -- that's why she's the former nanny. Aaahh - I see now. Yes, that would be horrifying and yes, you most definitely have a right to ask (demand?) that she remove them. YIKES! That's seriously scary. You could probably get the folks at Facebook to get them removed if she is uncooperative. Hopefully she just doesn't get it and with a kind nudge from you would gladly remove them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*anj* Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 yes, she's clearly labeled each picture with their names. she is very immature -- that's why she's the former nanny. Wow. That is just totally out of line. You know, I wonder if facebook has any rules about that kind of thing. You could say that you found these pictures and you are really concerned, and you didn't grant permission, etc. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keroro Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I agree with the other opinions here. You certainly have a right to ask her to remove them. The worst part is when you ask her she may not "get" why you want her to take them down. When hiring future babysitters I think it would be perfectly acceptable to let them know it's an unacceptable practice. Although, I don't think it would even cross most sitters minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alenee Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 If it were me, I'd be phoning her pronto! There was a story on the news a few months back about not-so-nice people using these types of pictures for unmentionable things. In rare cases some kids were tracked down...and well, not good. I don't mean to freak you out but imo, no one should ever post their kids photos on the net w/o them being password protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 yes, she's clearly labeled each picture with their names. she is very immature -- that's why she's the former nanny. OH WOW. I would be ALL OVER THAT like white on rice. Seriously......tackle this issue TOMORROW and do not stop until they are gone. The fact that they are clearly labeled with your kids' names is a whole 'nother ball game! It skeeves me out! Hugs, Astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 But then, I am so paranoid about this kind of thing that I don't even have a blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenayofRohan Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Umm...ew! If it were me, I would demand right away that she take them off. Those are your children and she definitely should have had your permission first. 60+ pics - and labled? I'd be all over that. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~FireFly~ Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'd tell her to remove them NOW! Think about it... Did she ask you for permission to put them there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemyboys Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'd tell her to remove them NOW! Think about it... Did she ask you for permission to put them there? you have to sign a photo release (allowing or not) with the organization for each child. She's out of line and frankly the 60+ stopped me cold. How many total pictures does she have at this site? Is she using this to generate future business by showing all the things she did with the kids? (backfires anyway since a future employer would probably react like we are :glare:) But the answers to those questions don't matter anyway, the photos shouldn't be there. Glad you checked the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindyg Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 My dh knows the chief privacy officer at Facebook. He says contact Facebook immediately, and they'll remove them. No need to even contact immature former nanny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanga Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I do not even let my parents post pictures of my children on their web pages! They think I am horrible, but I am afraid that in doing their grandparent brag page they would provide too many details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doran Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 My dh knows the chief privacy officer at Facebook. He says contact Facebook immediately, and they'll remove them. No need to even contact immature former nanny. That impresses me. Facebook would just take down someone else's pictures based on another users request? Don't get me wrong Calico -- I think they should come off, right away. It was not within her rights to have put them there in the first place. I was going to advise you to tell her to remove them immediately. I'm just surprised that Facebook would have the right to do this without any verification from the accuser/accused. Let us know how it turns out. This is why people are so wary of Facebook and the like. :001_unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeacherZee Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 That impresses me. Facebook would just take down someone else's pictures based on another users request? Don't get me wrong Calico -- I think they should come off, right away. It was not within her rights to have put them there in the first place. I was going to advise you to tell her to remove them immediately. I'm just surprised that Facebook would have the right to do this without any verification from the accuser/accused. Let us know how it turns out. This is why people are so wary of Facebook and the like. :001_unsure: The tricky thing with Facebook is that THEY actually own your pictures once you have posted them there, so yes they could remove them if you ask. I would definitely ask (actually demand) she takes them down if they make you uncomfortable (and 60 plus pictures would certainly make me uncomfortable). I do have pictures of some of the kids I watched over the summer. They were taken at my going away party. But I would NEVER put them up online. They are for me to remember the kids by. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think it would be okay for you to ask her to remove them. Maybe you could pick out a few of the less clear ones and let her leave those up? She really should've asked you first. People need to know that they can't just go around doing that.:glare: :iagree: with anj. I would ask her politely to take them down and I would contact Face Book and inform them of the situation. And, yes! I guess you'll have to add that to your list of rules. What was she thinking.:glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I just wanted to add that I would start keeping a record/diary of all the communications with her and with Facebook. Never know If it might be useful later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Good grief. Surely she'll take them off when you talk to her. If she didn't I'd get semi-threatening, as in lawyer. Our old nanny was so discreet she wouldn't even tell my parents where I was if they called when I wasn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Knoll Mom Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 From Facebook's privacy policy: In the event that we learn that we have collected personal information from a child under age 13 without verification of parental consent, we will delete that information as quickly as possible. If you believe that we might have any information from or about a child under 13, please contact us at info@facebook.com .And according to this paragraph, they consider photo tags information mining.Facebook may also collect information about you from other sources, such as newspapers, blogs, instant messaging services, and other users of the Facebook service through the operation of the service (e.g., photo tags) in order to provide you with more useful information and a more personalized experience.So, from my reading, they will remove the pictures if your children are under 13 and tagged in the photo. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Yes, I would absolutely ask her to remove them. She should never have posted them without your permission! While people can be photographed in public places, she was not doing this. She was photographing your children at your home, etc., while caring for them. This crosses the line on privacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurel Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Definitely ask her to remove them. That's a ridiculous invasion of privacy. (I would suspect that she just put every picture she has on the site, and didn't stop to think how anyone else would feel...) I would ask her first, and then if she doesn't respond, contact Facebook directly. For future babysitters/nannies, could you just ask that they respect your privacy and confidentiality and not post pictures online (or other public places)? I love having pictures of the kids I nanny for (and especially of previous children, as I don't get to see them much anymore). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Wow. That was a bad nanny! I see why she's "former." I'm sorry you have to deal with this. That sick pit in your stomach about your kids is not fun. Email facebook and get them the heck off of there. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmgconner Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 That's EXTREMELY disturbing. Contact Facebok and the former Nanny right away. She needs to know that what she did was WRONG and potentially dangerous. How old is former Nanny? If she was under 18, I'd also contact her parents. Ugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Lynx Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 do I have the right to ask her to remove them?! I just joined facebook and I was shocked to see these pictures of my kids. She nanny'd for us back in January. Obviously these were taken with her camera phone. So that begs the question, "Can I tell future babysitters NOT to use their cell phone cameras to take pictures of my kids." I won't be able to control this, obviously, but do I have the right to ask it of them. I do feel a bit like privacy has been invaded here. What would you do? Yep, like others have said, contact her, contact Facebook and yes, you are perfectly within your rights to specify "no photos" to future babysitters. Make it perfectly clear to her that posting pictures of other peoples' kids without permission is a REALLY BAD idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy in Indy Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Skip her and deal directly with Facebook. They'll let her know that the pictures were removed because it was a violation of privacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashleen Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 From Facebook's privacy policy:And according to this paragraph, they consider photo tags information mining. So, from my reading, they will remove the pictures if your children are under 13 and tagged in the photo. Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I guess I'm the odd woman out here, but I don't see it the same way you all do at all. I definitely think it is a little creepy that she has 60 plus pics of your kids on her Facebook page....to me that speaks to a little bit of obsession on her part and that won't change by you calling her on it and making her remove the pics. I don't think the fact that my child's pic was on the web would bother me at all. My dh and I both have our ds on ours. I think the dangers associated with that are way exaggerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaMere Academy Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 do I have the right to ask her to remove them?! I just joined facebook and I was shocked to see these pictures of my kids. She nanny'd for us back in January. Obviously these were taken with her camera phone. So that begs the question, "Can I tell future babysitters NOT to use their cell phone cameras to take pictures of my kids." I won't be able to control this, obviously, but do I have the right to ask it of them. I do feel a bit like privacy has been invaded here. What would you do? I would tell her that for safety issues that you want them removed and ask her that she not post photos of your children anywhere on the internet. That being said I do have photos of my children on my blogs, however that is my choice and I don't think I'd like it if someone else did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdWTMer Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 :eek: That, I would not like at all! I don't know how you should attack it. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabelen Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I would have them removed immediately. Only then would I contact her informing her why and how inappropriate of her it was to do this without seeking your permission. She needs to be aware. If she is a minor, I would also contact her parents so they are also aware that she needs more guidance in this area of her life. I would definitely want to know if I were her mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahwahnee Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I would contact her and ask her to remove the pictures immediately.:confused: Explain to her that she is required to have permission from you to post the pictures. You have not given her permission, because you are concerned about your children's security and safety, and do not like nosey people looking at your children.:D If she doesn't take them down, then I'd contact Facebook and have them removed. In general, the more personal information about you and your children you keep off of the net the better. Bad people can always find a way of using the information in ways that are undesirable or dangerous. While I see the draw of Facebook, I would not have anything on Facebook that I didn't want everyone in the world to see, because they can.:chillpill: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Hood Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I do not even let my parents post pictures of my children on their web pages! They think I am horrible, but I am afraid that in doing their grandparent brag page they would provide too many details. :iagree: I've asked dd birth-grandma not to post anything online, ever, of pictures I send her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly IN Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I didn't read any posts so sorry in advanced if I repeated anything. You have every LEGAL right to ask her to remove them. Legally she is not allowed to post your children's pics without your permission. You can seek legal action over this. What she is doing is illegal. In our homeschool group we have to sign a permssion slip for postings of our kids on their webpages which is password and account coded. Still we had to for legal purposed give them permission otherwise they will not use the picture online. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Carol said: I would freak. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But then, I am so paranoid about this kind of thing that I don't even have a blog. I'm *not* paranoid about this sort of thing and I'd freak, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwilliams1922 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I find this freaky but one question keeps coming up.... Does she know you can see her page (with the photos)/ are you facebook friends? If you are then that tells me she is really immature/naive. If she does not know you can see the photos than that scares me for some reason. Where else could she have photos of the kids? Are there other social networking sites? Has she emailed them to other people? I think it's nice that she thinks highly of your kids but that crosses the line to freaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Knoll Mom Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I didn't read any posts so sorry in advanced if I repeated anything. You have every LEGAL right to ask her to remove them. Legally she is not allowed to post your children's pics without your permission. You can seek legal action over this. What she is doing is illegal. In our homeschool group we have to sign a permssion slip for postings of our kids on their webpages which is password and account coded. Still we had to for legal purposed give them permission otherwise they will not use the picture online. Holly Do you have sources for this? From my readings it all hinges on where they were taken. People cannot take your picture without permission in a place where you have a "reasonable expectation of privacy". If they were taken in a public place, then the nanny owns the copyright to the picture and has done nothing *legally* wrong. Here's some sites the OP might want to peruse about the rights of photographers. Krages.com Nolo.com However, she didn't follow Facebook's privacy policy (quoted in my earlier post) and you have every right to ask her & Facebook to take them down. As to the subject of should she even be taking their pictures... I nannied some girls back in my mid-20s (before kids) and we did a photo shoot one afternoon. I had just gotten a new camera, they wanted to "be models", so we spent one afternoon having a lot of fun. I gave the doubles to their parents and kept some for myself. I see nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make me a creep to want some pictures of some little girls who were very special to me at that point in my life. I think some grace needs to be shown to this nanny. In this digital age, it's easy to shoot 60 pics...no worries about film & developing costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'd insist they be removed asap. I'd also request she delete them from her files as she took them without your consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home4school Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 CalicoKat, I don't understand --- WHY are the pictures there? :confused: I can't think of a good reason she would want them there? I don't use facebook, so I really don't get for what reason she has them there. Just trying to understand. But I can't think of any reason I would allow someone to post that many photos of my children without my permission! Blessings, Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwilliams1922 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 As to the subject of should she even be taking their pictures... I nannied some girls back in my mid-20s (before kids) and we did a photo shoot one afternoon. I had just gotten a new camera, they wanted to "be models", so we spent one afternoon having a lot of fun. I gave the doubles to their parents and kept some for myself. I see nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make me a creep to want some pictures of some little girls who were very special to me at that point in my life. I think some grace needs to be shown to this nanny. In this digital age, it's easy to shoot 60 pics...no worries about film & developing costs. that's a good point... I've taken photos of kids from our TKD school at sporting events. I always gave a copy of the good ones to the parents and or TKD school as gifts. I may have put one photo on my myspace page. It was 2 of the older kids sparing (17 and 19 I think) and was just a really good action shot. The other photos I gave to the school who i believe had a release to use photos of the students on their web site or displayed in the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenParrish Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I would contact her and ask her to remove the photos from face book. If she does not, I would contact face book directly and ask them to be removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dominion Heather Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 All the advice you have been given is good, contact facebook or the old nanny... But, just so you know, there is a feature that will allow you to remove a tag on a photo. My fil posted a few less than flattering pics of me and tagged them and I went in and removed the tags. Not sure if that is only pictures of yourself though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Leaving the safety issue out of it, I still find her actions inappropriate and out of line. If she's younger, may it's poor judgment because of immaturity. If she's older, and should know better imo, I would be livid. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo2 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I didn't read the other replies, but I would definitely ask her to remove them. I am not comfortable with putting pictures of my family on the internet. That's a lot of pictures...kind of creepy that she even took that many photos of your kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalicoKat Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 I just wanted to add that I would start keeping a record/diary of all the communications with her and with Facebook. Never know If it might be useful later. please elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalicoKat Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 I find this freaky but one question keeps coming up.... Does she know you can see her page (with the photos)/ are you facebook friends? If you are then that tells me she is really immature/naive. If she does not know you can see the photos than that scares me for some reason. Where else could she have photos of the kids? Are there other social networking sites? Has she emailed them to other people? I think it's nice that she thinks highly of your kids but that crosses the line to freaky. I just started my own facebook page this week and found her through another mutual friend--I accepted HER invitation. THEN I found the pictures of my kids. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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