shinyhappypeople Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Logic of English, lesson 1 has pink using the "first sound of i" which is the short i, like igloo. Is this a real pronunciation for some people, or is it "spelling list" pronunciation? FWIW, we pronounce it with a long e sound, rhymes with sink or blink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 sink and blink also use the short i sound, like in. in-k. ink. are you from the south? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhappypeople Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 sink and blink also use the short i sound, like in. in-k. ink. are you from the south? No, California born and raised. I have never, ever heard the "ink" words pronounced like that. Where are you from? (ETA: ok, just noticed under your avatar: VA, so nevermind :) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaners Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I'm originally from Upstate NY, and I've only ever heard those words with a short i sound. It sounds slightly different from the short i in pin though. I've never heard it with a long e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemosyne Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I use the short i for all those words (raised in WA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspasia Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I found this interesting when working through phonics with dd as well. But then I realized that it all kind of sounds the same in the end. At least to my ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 but i grew up in PA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Pink, pin, and pig have the exact same short i sound. I grew up in New England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 ink with a p on the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngieW in Texas Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I have only ever heard it pronounced with a long e sound. I have always lived in Texas. I have never heard -ink words pronounce any way other than long e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyofsixreboot Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Short I-Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Wizards Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Short i - all of the listed words short i as well. I am on the west coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GailV Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Short i. Indiana. But I knew people who didn't seem to differentiate pin and pen, which struck me as odd -- everything was short i. I'm pretty sure my Mom would say peenking shears for pinking shears. She's from Southern Indiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheres Toto Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Born and raised and still in New Jersey. I pronounce all three with the short i sound and never heard them the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soror Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 We had this in LoE Foundations and it throw me for a loop because I've always said and heard a long E. I cannot hardly figure out how to say it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeninok Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 So in as in pin sounds the same to you guys as ink blink or pink? Those are peenk, seenk, and bleenk to us. Ink sounds like in with a K on the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom2OandE Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Ok I said long e. Then I sat here sounding it out both ways and I think the nk paired with the I make the short i sound like long e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 the sound of in and ink are slightly different, i admit . . the cheeks come out a bit. but not as far as an ee. but sink is like sin is like in more than sink is like seen. Been, tho . . .seen is ee and been is short i. definitely regional. hey, my mom still pronounces drawer like draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenNotOfTroy Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 We use the short i sound. When I say peenk, it does sound familiar, so I know I have heard it that way, but that is not how I say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty.warden Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Oregon here, long e sound for all of the words ending in -ink that I can think of. I do have a relative who says Pay-nk but she also says May-gee and bay-g for Maggie and bag, which no one else in the family does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 definitely regional. hey, my mom still pronounces drawer like draw. Everyone in my family not from the Boston area makes fun of me for pronouncing "drawer" to rhyme with "car". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffe Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Long-e here and have never heard it any other way. Born in the South but raised all over the US. Learn something new every day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Logic of English, lesson 1 has pink using the "first sound of i" which is the short i, like igloo. Is this a real pronunciation for some people, or is it "spelling list" pronunciation? FWIW, we pronounce it with a long e sound, rhymes with sink or blink. All three of those have a short 'i' sound to me. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 So in as in pin sounds the same to you guys as ink blink or pink? Those are peenk, seenk, and bleenk to us. Ink sounds like in with a K on the end? The vowel in pin, in, ink, blink and pink is the same to me. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 short i. Although to many of you it might sound like I'm saying short u :-) We eat Fush and Chups here in the antipodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Long e here as well. Born and raised in the South. I can't even pronounce it using the short "i" sound. Being from the South, I'm just glad I don't say it pank, which is how I hear it a lot down here. :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I've lived all over the midwest (originally from IL) and can't recall ever hearing it with a short i. I say "peenk" I am always fascinated how our language changes from each area! We recently moved to the upper midwest and there are so many different words for everything! I can't tell you how many times I ask for common items in the stores and they give me a blank look. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 No, California born and raised. I have never, ever heard the "ink" words pronounced like that. Where are you from? (ETA: ok, just noticed under your avatar: VA, so nevermind :) ) i haven't either! I've lived in NY, NC, OH, IL, and visited most of the SW and California and I have never ever ever heard a short I pronunciation in pink!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoshannon Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I'm in IL and grew up in WI. We say short i. However, my mom and sister say ee. My mom grew up in CA. My mom also says pin when she means pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Somewhere in between, because the "n" affects the way the "i" is pronounced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennay Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 short i - always lived in suburbs of DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2att Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Short i. Indiana. But I knew people who didn't seem to differentiate pin and pen, which struck me as odd -- everything was short i. Spent the first 23 years of my life in southern Indiana. I still really have to think about "pen" and "pin" when I say them. Old habits die hard! And to me, the short i in pink and the short i in pig do not sound the same, but neither does pink have the have the long e sound of, say, green. It's like ink is a phoneme all its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 This is the first I heard that pink was supposed to be peenk, drink dreenk, think theenk, and now I'm trying to theenk of a song that uses the word dreenk, but all I can come up with is: bye, bye Miss American pie ... and good ole boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye ... but I can't remember if they were saying dreenking or drinkin. Lemme theenk about it some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanSue Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Short i. I have always lived on the East Coast. My midwest huband says it the same way. I laughed when I saw the poll and then was very surprised to see the results. I guess I don't get out much . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 NJ born and raised. Pink, ink, blink, sink, pig, lit, sill, whim, flip.... all short i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 If I think about 'pink' in my MIL's accent, it's definitely 'ee'. In fact it more-or-less has two syllables: 'pee-ink'. She was from Mart, Texas. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 i wonder if we dont really notice the difference - its a difference that has no meaning for our language so we probably dont even notice when someone says it the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaNYC Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Short i, just the way starfall.com pronounces a short i pin, big, ink, pink, blink, igloo, itchy, interesting, picnic, nitpick....all have the same short i which sounds nothing like a long e where I come from (NY). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 New England and now upstate NY. Pink, pig, sink, blink, igloo, pin, bin, fin, ink, all have the short i sound. I wouldn't know what someone was talking about if they used the long sound. And pin and pen sound very different and one would not be mistaken for the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 There's audio of 'pink' on this page and on this. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Short i here in Alberta Canada, I tried saying it with a long e and it sounded ridiculous to me. all -ink words are short i here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhappypeople Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 There's audio of 'pink' on this page and on this. Laura That's interesting. Do you hear a long e or short i sound in those pronunciations? They both sound the same to me (long e). I wonder if our accent affects how we interpret certain sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 looking for references. i cant find anything academic, but i thought this was funny (please, no offense meant) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rain Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Hmm, I don't recall ever hearing pin-k. I can only think about it with more of a long e sound. I have heard pay-nk (in Texas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 That's interesting. Do you hear a long e or short i sound in those pronunciations? They both sound the same to me (long e). I wonder if our accent affects how we interpret certain sounds. I hear short i in both. I think the difference in sound we here isn't the vowel sound it is how that vowel sound connects with the -nk because it is like there is an invisible g in there, so more of a -ing sound so p- ing-k still short i for sure but that implied g sound can make some hear or say it with a long e sound I think. particularily if not thinking about that g sound consciously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a27mom Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I'm originally from Upstate NY, and I've only ever heard those words with a short i sound. It sounds slightly different from the short i in pin though. I've never heard it with a long e. Lol I am from upstate NY too and I would have said it is a long e. but it doesn't sound like seen and it doesn't sound like pin, it sounds more like the sound in seen than in pin though. I thought "ink" makes its own sound, like ook and ool There's audio of 'pink' on this page and on this. Laura I could only here the first one but that is how I would say it, it sounds closest to a long e to me. (Though not exactly a long e) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhappypeople Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 Possibly one of the coolest sites ever for language nerds: Forvo (link goes to 5 people saying "pink" incl. 2 US, 1 UK and 1 Aus) ALL of them sound long e to me. What do YOU hear? I'm really fascinated with the idea that our speech might affect how we interpret sound. I think I might be on to something :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhappypeople Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 I hear short i in both. I think the difference in sound we here isn't the vowel sound it is how that vowel sound connects with the -nk because it is like there is an invisible g in there, so more of a -ing sound so p- ing-k still short i for sure but that implied g sound can make some hear or say it with a long e sound I think. particularily if not thinking about that g sound consciously. I hear the "ing" in pink, though I've never really thought about it before. How do you pronounce sing? all "ing" words are "eeng" to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Possibly one of the coolest sites ever for language nerds: Forvo (link goes to 5 people saying "pink" incl. 2 US, 1 UK and 1 Aus) ALL of them sound long e to me. What do YOU hear? I'm really fascinated with the idea that our speech might affect how we interpret sound. I think I might be on to something :) funny, they all sound like short i to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 ok, so bean and binky . . . do they sound the same? not to me . . . bean is a long e . . binky is a short i . . . i agree the 'ng' sound is confusing the issue . . . or even bean and bin . . . not the same sound, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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