jens2sons Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I have been trying to use A Reason for Handwriting and as much as I want to use it, it irritates me and I don't know why. Maybe it it the daily format? It also doesn't seem to really challenge a student. The version of the Bible irritates me as well because when we memorize scripture we don't use the Living translation like the workbook uses. We generally use NKJV, ESV or NIV. I was looking at R&S and I'm considering the purchase but I'd like some feedback. My son is 8 and would like to learn cursive but still needs lots of manuscript practice. I do not want to use something with manipulatives like HWOT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I tried 4 different kinds, but now we go without a curriculum because neither of us liked any of them. Getty Dubay was my favorite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I have been trying to use A Reason for Handwriting and as much as I want to use it, it irritates me and I don't know why. Maybe it it the daily format? It also doesn't seem to really challenge a student. The version of the Bible irritates me as well because when we memorize scripture we don't use the Living translation like the workbook uses. We generally use NKJV, ESV or NIV. I was looking at R&S and I'm considering the purchase but I'd like some feedback. My son is 8 and would like to learn cursive but still needs lots of manuscript practice. I do not want to use something with manipulatives like HWOT. Zaner Bloser. I prefer a traditional hand to begin with, and ZB is the grandfather of traditional hands. :-) Also, I like the way it teaches: first the strokes used, then the letters using the strokes. Although I like R&S generally, it begins with a "transition" hand before moving to cursive, and I just don't see a reason to waste time on a transition. You could use ARFH's pretty pages for additional practice. :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS Mom in NC Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Getty Dubay Elegant and efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wehave8 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We use old Zaner Bloser books. Their Old Style is my favorite. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 New American Cursive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF612 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We use Pentime. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahM Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We like Pentime then New American Cursive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momma2three Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I really like the Zaner-Bloser workbooks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
againstthegrain Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We use pentime. We like it as it offers a 2nd grade year that shows transition to cursive. Short but effective daily work. We are doing 3rd grade (all cursive) this year with the 7 year old and it's going wonderfully. Highly recommend and it is very easy on the budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I do not want to use something with manipulatives like HWOT. HWOT only uses manipulatives for little ones (like preschool). You don't use them for the workbooks. I found the methods really helped my kids, so it may be one to consider. A program I JUST heard about the other day but know nothing more than what's on the website--Cursive Logic. It sounded like an interesting approach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We've been very happy with HWOT. We just use the workbooks none of the other pieces... never been a problem. It's a pretty obvious progression. The hand is not my favourite, but it is clear and I can already see my oldest's own cursive hand developing from that starting point. We started with Getty Dubay because I liked the cursive look, but the print was more complex. It added frustration to the printing process for little ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caviar Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Cursive First - can stand alone, but was developed to go with Spell to Write and Read, then Modern Style Cursive Connections by Kathryn Libby Acacia Publishing, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtomom Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I like Getty-Dubay. I prefer it to the look of HWOT. But you can definitely do HWOT at that age with the workbook alone. You don't need manipulatives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We are currently using SCM's Print to Cursive Proverbs. It goes back and forth between cursive and manuscript and uses ESV verses from Proverbs. They do a page of cursive followed by a page or so of manuscript. Another program I liked was Cheerful Cursive. It moves at a slower pace, but the instruction in it is very well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) .... Edited June 22, 2016 by Guest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezyone Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Another vote for Zaner-Bloser style. There are many different workbooks that use it. My current favorite series is by Thomas Wasylyk who authored Zaner-Bloser’s books for nearly two decades. Universal Publishing makes two versions of each level, one with built in history/social studies content and one without so you can do two of the same level in a year for $13 or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility7 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Pentime. Inexpensive, and a lovely (enough) style. The copywork in Books 4, 5, and 6 has also been interesting for my DS (Bk 4 was on different states in the US, bks 5 & 6 have had paragraphs on different animals). Books 2 and 3 I think generally have cheesier moralistic copywork but my kids didn't mind that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceful Isle Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I like HWOT the best, but I know you said you didn't want that..... So my next best favorite is BJU handwriting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't particularly have a favorite. Zaner-Bloser is the closest to how I was taught and how I naturally teach my children. A couple of my kids never had a real program; my writing on their tablet paper was it. (Using a highlighter makes it easy to make words for tracing.) My current 7yo used Jump Into Cursive Handwriting to learn cursive this year. I think I picked it up on a freebie deal, but it's not expensive. DD/7 didn't feel confident enough to start switching subjects over to cursive when she finished this book, so she's now using Cursive Writing Handbook from the same author for one more gentle round. When she finishes this one I will just require it in her other subjects and drop penmanship as a separate subject. Once they know how to form the letters correctly mine no longer study separate penmanship. Insisting they use their best penmanship in other subjects is sufficient practice. When they're ready for cursive we work on it until they are able and then use it daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busymama7 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 We love pentime here. I tried cursive first many years ago and it was a disaster. I also tried creating my own copy work or using queens homeschool books and insisting on neat work for other subjects but that just wasn't enough for my kids. They have done really really well with a page of handwriting a day of actual practice with letter formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaConquest Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 We've used HWT and New American Cursive so far, which have been good. I love the look of Getty Dubay the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73349 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 We used HWOT without the manipulatives for printing, and now since DS still needs more practice, I make him sheets from handwritingworksheets.com with famous quotes, etc. I hate the HWOT cursive, though, and have ordered Pentime for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamaraby Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Zaner-Bloser - especially now that you can buy it Rainbow Resource For ds I used Joy of Handwriting - Cursive which was cheap and effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisoncooks Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 We use and like Pentime through Book 2, but then we switch to a more modern cursive. (We're trying NAC this year.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 We do D'Nealian manuscript handwriting, and I just make my own copywork here. For teaching the initial letters, we did the old LoE handwriting book which used D'Nealian before they switched to whatever that is now. Most of the adults I know write with a hybrid of printed letters joined together, and that's basically what D'Nealian is once you connect the letters, so I figured we'd save time and just start out with that. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Pentime for kids, Spencerian for adults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Pentime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBearsMama Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Pentime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umsami Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 HWOT It has worked well for us for both printing and cursive. You don't have to use all of the manipulatives, though. I learned that after I bought everything for DS1. LOL For other kids, we just write the letter in the air (in Kindy) and then do the workbook. I do think that the teacher's guide for Kindy is worth it. I also enjoyed Calvert's Handwriting, but it's uniquely theirs...and you can't find many supplemental materials for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Handwriting Lessons through Literature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 After my two older boys doing HWOT cursive and being successful with it, I made the mistake of switching to Pentime. It was so boring and monotonous and just ugh. Totally switching back this year. My older ones never minded doing cursive probably because it was fun with HWOT. My kids have great cursive. They really do develop their own style. Best of all my kid like to write in cursive and do it by their own free will. HWOT is just easier and quicker for them to use in everyday writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abeilles Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 We love Pentime - inexpensive, independent, and gets the job done. For my older kids it also serves as wonderful copywork practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess4879 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 For cursive we use A Reason for Handwriting, but only to teach the letter strokes. After that we move to copywork. I don't like the bible verses offered in the book either, so we skip those. For manuscript I like HWOT, but as others have said, you don't need any extra elements. All you need is the workbook. I only use HWOT to teach the letter strokes as well though. I don't like the large spaces they leave between words and prefer to move to copywork once they have the letters down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahamamama Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 We started off with Zaner-Bloser manuscript workbooks (worked great), then transitioned to Zaner-Bloser cursive workbooks (worked great), and ended up with homemade New American Cursive copywork made up on StartWrite software (which has its glitches, but it was worth working through them to get the result we wanted -- our own copywork in the NAC font). Overall, though, I think that (for us, at least) the most important factor in producing lovely penmanship has just been the focus and attention of the teacher while the students are writing. That is to say, no workbook or system (that I know of) will do my job for me -- I have to pay attention to how they are writing while they are writing. Also, I check all their work, and make them redo anything that is sloppy (for them). They all have beautiful penmanship (when they want to, LOL), both in manuscript and in cursive. So, in a way, we could use whatever we like, but the results are (IMO) less dependent on the product than on the consistent investment of attention and time on the part of the teacher. HTH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbgrace Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Getty Dubay. I wish I had used it from the start. I love the look, practicality, and the speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vida Winter Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 We've tried just about everything and I am finally settling on HWT. I didn't like the font for a long time but then started getting interested in French Cursive. It is closest to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 We've tried just about everything and I am finally settling on HWT. I didn't like the font for a long time but then started getting interested in French Cursive. It is closest to that.French cursive is basically what my kids cursive ends up looking like. I thinks it's nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Just wanted to add, no matter what we all end up using, we're doing right by our kids. My two oldest were using cursive in one of there 4-H clubs last week and really impressed their peers. I didn't sound like it's a skill many others had learned. My goals were for my kids to be able to read others' cursive and use cursive when appropriate and desired. Both those goals have been accomplished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sterling Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Not to hijack this thread :), but how does Getty-Dubay compare to and differ from Zaner-Bloser? I like the one-stroke Z-B method, but the workbooks seem a bit weak to me, so I was thinking of replacing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamiof5 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 HWOT for us. I didn't even know they had manipulatives? We only do the workbooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisoncooks Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternallytired Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Not to hijack this thread :), but how does Getty-Dubay compare to and differ from Zaner-Bloser? I like the one-stroke Z-B method, but the workbooks seem a bit weak to me, so I was thinking of replacing it... I've not used Z-B, but G-D uses a one-stroke method, as well. I loved it (though I did adjust the order of the first book for my young writers). Rainbow Resource has page samples from each book, if you want to use that to compare the workbooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Tharp Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 New American Cursive. Layout (with the meerkat mascot) is cute and easy to follow. It's one of the few subjects my third grader will willingly do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Getty Dubay... This is my reason...almost every kid I know reverts to manuscript after years of cursive instruction and use. My son had gorgeous, mature, and VERY fast and legible cursive, but he reverted back to manuscript the second I allowed him. In fact, he only had one year of manuscript and 5 years of cursive, yet in 7th grade the second I told him I didn't mind anymore, it was 100% manuscript. He says it's because he sees the letters in his head as what he's used to reading. Fast or not fast, to him it is illogical. Then there's my daughter who learned two years of manuscript, and then two years of cursive. HEr cursive was so pretty and smooth, too....She was struggling so much with the cursive partly because of her spelling, (you can't just erase one letter)...so I allowed her to use manuscript again for a little while but, it's too slow. She now uses a form of Italic that she made up on her own, while looking at Getty-Dubay. She is very happy with it, and it looks great. It's a bit of a hybrid because she learned regular cursive but it's mostly Getty Dubay with a few loops here and there. Basically, Getty Dubay looks almost exactly like the manuscript, except with a few changes to join letters. There are no loops, no frills, and it's logical. It makes sense and in the mind of boys, and dyslexics, and just logical kids that hate cursive, it's worth learning. My two cents. I wasted like 3 years of my life, about 30 minutes per day teaching cursive. ANd then another seven years combined, dealing with complaints about cursive. It was a lot of wasted time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Getty Dubay. I wish I had used it from the start. I love the look, practicality, and the speed. Yes, and what's more important is, that the KIDS think it's practical....well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaHappy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Well, I really like ARFH for younger kiddos. But I also love Pentime for cursive practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daffodil Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 We've been happy with HWT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSinNS Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 HWOT-simple, easy to implement. My kids (it turns out) virtually all have major fine motor delays, and all have quite nice handwriting and good pencil grips thanks to HWOT. Not that it hasn't taken time. For most kids, you only really need the books and some golf pencils. I do like the chalk-boards for practicing letter formation in K (I just use regular chalk and a make-up sponge for wet-dry-try). And I use the expensive paper for T and D, since they find it really hard to write on regular paper. I'll start to transition T in the next year or so. S could always write nicely on other paper. I have the wooden blocks, but I would only recommend them if you had a child with big fine-motor problems. I did find them helpful for teaching one child capital letters, but that was really the only time I used them. S (11) has a really nice cursive hand, now. It looks less like HWOT, but quite mature and very legible, with a lovely slant. Very modern with no unnecessary loops. You should hear the "oohs" from the ladies over 50 when they see it. Our local schools don't teach cursive much or at all, so they are always quite impressed. T's writing also looks lovely. I was taught a beautiful but convoluted cursive, and honestly, hers looks closer to what I was taught than anything I ever achieved. Anyway, we shall see how their writing looks in a while, but so far I am very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy to monkeys Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Pentime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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