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Okay, so I'm not talking about TALKING chats, but the body language type of chats that are so fun to be woken up for!

 

Editing to add that I'm not talking about waking up DH in the middle of the night for s%x specifically. I mean just wanting a lot more s^x than he does.

 

Am I the only one who is much more interested in "chatting" than her DH? I'd be happy to chat a couple times a week, DH is fine with a couple times a month, or less. He's always been this way, it's not stress or depression, or anything like that. It's just how he is. Those couple times a month, he is quite happy to "talk", but that doesn't lead to a desire for more chatting. His "conversation skills" are just fine, that's not the problem either.

 

It's so taken for granted that guys are always eager for s#x, that they are usually after their wives for more, and it's the wife who turns them down. It kind of makes me feel like a freak, or like DH is a freak, or something is wrong with both of us.

 

So, (huge blushing going on here) anyone else in the same boat? How do you keep from feeling bad about it?

Michelle T, who is embarrassed to have admitted this.

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My need to chat depends on where my hormones are at the time. :glare: Sometimes I'm up for chatting more often, and sometimes I'm not. For DH it depends on how his day went (rough day at the office), how he sleeping was the night before. We chat at least once/week but sometimes more and sometimes less. We're both happy with that timetable. Sometimes it takes more work for ME because I have to get my head into it during the day/evening if I don't feel like it physically (hormones are in the wrong phase of the moon).

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Okay, so I'm not talking about TALKING chats, but the body language type of chats that are so fun to be woken up for!

 

Am I the only one who is much more interested in "chatting" than her DH? I'd be happy to chat a couple times a week, DH is fine with a couple times a month, or less. He's always been this way, it's not stress or depression, or anything like that. It's just how he is. Those couple times a month, he is quite happy to "talk", but that doesn't lead to a desire for more chatting. His "conversation skills" are just fine, that's not the problem either.

 

It's so taken for granted that guys are always eager for s#x, that they are usually after their wives for more, and it's the wife who turns them down. It kind of makes me feel like a freak, or like DH is a freak, or something is wrong with both of us.

 

So, (huge blushing going on here) anyone else in the same boat? How do you keep from feeling bad about it?

Michelle T, who is embarrassed to have admitted this.

 

 

You are not a freak; you just described me exactly! (and I am not a freak either ;)). I have always wanted more "chat time" than dh and it took years for me to not feel like a freak because of it. It isn't really so much that he isn't as interested as me, he is just the kind of person who lives a lot of his life in his head (think scientist here). So, even if he is thinking about chatting he never actually initiates the conversation, if you kwim. If I do he is usually more than happy to converse. So, I've had to start more conversations over the years than I've been comfotable doing, but it has gotten easier and more natural.

 

So, don't feel badly about your desire to converse. We are all wired differently and some of us women do love to chat! :D

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We chat all the time. Sometimes 3 times a day. Sometimes once.

Sometimes not all day.

 

I would say average of......well, I just asked dear boyfriend - he said average of 15 times a week. I might have said 9 or 10. You get the point!

 

I would be frustated if I were you. Are you by any chance in your late 20's early 30's? Or even 40's? I think it starts in the late 20's and keeps going from there. I am 36 and from what I hear the 40's are even more fabulous!

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So, I've had to start more conversations over the years than I've been comfotable doing, but it has gotten easier and more natural.

 

This is us too...I just chalked it up to me being so much younger than dh. :tongue_smilie:

 

Usually I'll give him our "key word" when he comes in from work or later on in the evening and he lets me know if he is too tired or not.

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We chat all the time. Sometimes 3 times a day. Sometimes once.

Sometimes not all day.

 

I would say average of......well, I just asked dear boyfriend - he said average of 15 times a week. I might have said 9 or 10. You get the point!

 

I would be frustated if I were you. Are you by any chance in your late 20's early 30's? Or even 40's? I think it starts in the late 20's and keeps going from there. I am 36 and from what I hear the 40's are even more fabulous!

 

 

My God, 15 times per week? :biggrinjester: You GO, girl!

 

Michelle T

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lol... um, yes... there's certainly an ebb and flow, depending on other factors in dh's life (book deadlines -- ugh!)... but generally speaking, yes, i'd be interested in more frequent "chats" than he. in talking to friends, i don't think we're alone at all.

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Just checking in to say that since I can't post anon I'm keeping my mouth shut...............for once!

 

You guys are cracking me up! Is there anything we don't discuss here?? 8)

 

Of course not. You were around for the waxing and shaving thread, weren't you? :ohmy:

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So, (huge blushing going on here) anyone else in the same boat? How do you keep from feeling bad about it?

Michelle T, who is embarrassed to have admitted this.

 

When my life was less stressful and his moreso, I was more interested in conversation than he. He would never turn down an opportunity to talk, but it just wasn't priority for him. I would indulge more in casual-type conversation rather than all-out debate, IYKWIM, just to make me happy and not take up as much time in "discussion." That was fine.

 

Now that my life is more stressful, I'm not turning anything down, but I'm more likely to be quiet. My mind is otherwise occupied, generally speaking, and my body is quite tired some days.

 

Nothing to be ashamed of or not. So long as he or you doesn't stop "speaking" to one another, just enjoy that you're more ready to chat than he is and I promise he's not going to be complaining much.

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I hear you, Michelle,

 

And no, you are not alone.

 

I was the OP on that other thread, and I really was primarily wondering about the "real" chatting, the kind you do with words. The thread has taken on a life of it's own, I guess, and it's fun, but I hear the pain in your question becauseI have been there.

 

I read a good book on the subject called The Sex-Starved Marriage, by Michele Weiner Davis. She describes a s#x-starved marriage as any marriage in which one person wants more than the other. It's not based on any standard number of times per month, or whatever. Anyway, the book helped me a lot by helping me understand my husband, and myselfs. And, it gave helpful suggestions. It's been awhile since I read it, so I don't remember the details. But, things have improved considerably. I don't feel so rejected, and he seems more open to intimacy on all levels.

 

There were other books recommended (on this board, actually, when I asked the same question awhile back). I have them in my Amazon wish list, but haven't felt the need to get them. I'll list them for you, though:

 

Passionate Marriage: Keeping Love and Intimacy Alive in Committed Relationships, by David Schnarch

Resurrecting Sex: Solving Sexual Problems and Revolutionizing Your Relationship, by David Schnarch

Rekindling Desire: A Step by Step Program to Help Low-Sex and No-Sex Marriages, by Barry W. McCarthy

 

Hope you find the help you need. I know it's a lonely place to be.

Suzanne

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Add me to this club. Especially while pregnant. One of our "issues" is that dh takes some meds that make him a little less "chatty" in general, but I find that frequency matters a little bit less when the quality of the "conversations" is high. :001_wub:

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And it drove me crazy. Then we found out he had too-low testosterone levels and too much stress. Exercise, sunshine, and a better diet helped both problems. :D Oh, and actually chatting more helped as well by raising his levels. We want to chat about the same amount now. Also, we had a number of talks (literally) about the problem and how to solve it or reach some kind of compromise. We're a bit more like Karen sn now! :D

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yes, i'd be interested in more frequent "chats" than he. in talking to friends
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May I just say that, analogous to the booKs/books topics, I think we need some way of distinguishing chatting from chatting (chatting and Chatting? chatting and *hatting? chatting and chattin*?), because I seriously (well, sorta) wondered if abbeyej was talking to friends or "talking" to friends - which struck me as VERY out of character for her - but then again, who can tell on a message board? Ya think ya know someone! On the other thread someone talked about chatting in the car (but I was thinking that poster was talking about chattin* in the car :auto::driving:, and while bike riding or something like that) and my head was spinning.... :001_huh:

 

Carry on. (Any way you want.)

 

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May I just say that, analogous to the booKs/books topics, I think we need some way of distinguishing chatting from chatting (chatting and Chatting? chatting and *hatting? chatting and chattin*?), because I seriously (well, sorta) wondered if abbeyej was talking to friends or "talking" to friends - which struck me as VERY out of character for her - but then again, who can tell on a message board? Ya think ya know someone! On the other thread someone talked about chatting in the car (but I was thinking that poster was talking about chattin* in the car :auto::driving:, and while bike riding or something like that) and my head was spinning.... :001_huh:

 

Carry on. (Any way you want.)

 

:001_smile:

 

:lol::lol:

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Add me to this club. Especially while pregnant. One of our "issues" is that dh takes some meds that make him a little less "chatty" in general, but I find that frequency matters a little bit less when the quality of the "conversations" is high. :001_wub:

 

My dh takes meds too that effect this. Even before meds, he was not a big "chatter". Okay, when we were still teenagers - he loved to chat... more info than you needed, huh? I used to feel like it was me. I was younger and really thought it was all about me. We had LITERAL talks about this and I understand him better now. We pretty much always chat once a week and usually twice. I am fine with that unless my hormones say otherwise. Then I could chat and chat and chat some more. I am so glad to know I am not the only one. The other thing dh and I figured out is that normal work and life stress play into this. When we go away on a vacation alone, we chat the week away. Okay, I am going to fold my laundry now. My dh won't believe this discussion!:D

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May I just say that, analogous to the booKs/books topics, I think we need some way of distinguishing chatting from chatting

 

:001_smile:

 

It can get confusing, can't it? I have no suggestion for the general term, but I will admit that, for some reason :confused:, Rich with Kids' post made me want to rename her Master Chatter. I have no idea why. :confused1: :D

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I think it's very normal. I have discussed this at length with some of my friends and it is just more common than you might realize. As others have said, my desire to chat has much to do with hormonal cycles. For dh, I think it's connected more to stress level, tiredness, etc. He is less talkative in his 40's than he was in his 20's, but he still very much likes to talk.

 

So no, you're not weird, and your dh probably isn't either.

 

Oh, and Pam I am going back to try and rep you for the "little chat" vs. "long conversation" analogy. You crack me up! :D

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We chat. We chat the heck outta each other. I was not a chatter in my first marriage. What a difference love and respect can make in a marriage! Sometimes I have to chat to myself! :w00t: (Oh, please, you knew I'd go there...)

 

 

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:lol: Is it Wednesday again...Time for those two minutes of heaven.. :lol:

 

So no, you're not weird, and your dh probably isn't either.

 

Oh, and Pam I am going back to try and rep you for the "little chat" vs. "long conversation" analogy. You crack me up! :D

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It can get confusing, can't it? I have no suggestion for the general term, but I will admit that, for some reason :confused:, Rich with Kids' post made me want to rename her Master Chatter. I have no idea why. :confused1: :D

 

Oh my goodness, I'm glad I didn't have a mouth full of tea when I read that. :lol:

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Okay, so I'm not talking about TALKING chats, but the body language type of chats that are so fun to be woken up for!

 

Editing to add that I'm not talking about waking up DH in the middle of the night for s%x specifically. I mean just wanting a lot more s^x than he does.

 

Am I the only one who is much more interested in "chatting" than her DH? I'd be happy to chat a couple times a week, DH is fine with a couple times a month, or less. He's always been this way, it's not stress or depression, or anything like that. It's just how he is. Those couple times a month, he is quite happy to "talk", but that doesn't lead to a desire for more chatting. His "conversation skills" are just fine, that's not the problem either.

 

It's so taken for granted that guys are always eager for s#x, that they are usually after their wives for more, and it's the wife who turns them down. It kind of makes me feel like a freak, or like DH is a freak, or something is wrong with both of us.

 

So, (huge blushing going on here) anyone else in the same boat? How do you keep from feeling bad about it?

Michelle T, who is embarrassed to have admitted this.

 

Didn't read responses.

 

In the same boat here, always have been.

 

The Marriage Bed Maybe this site will be of use to you. :)

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Nah, you're not weird. I can't quite recall the name of the program, but I think it was in the 70's - Three's Company? With John Ritter? Have you seen it - and Mr. Roper? His wife was always trying to get him in the mood, LOL. They wrote his character for a reason; it's certainly not unheard of and is probably a lot more common than you might think.... I think Maude was somewhat like that, too, with regard to her relations with her husband....

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Frankly, my dh would probably like to spend a month with some of you gals. Chatting is one of his favorite pastimes while I tend to be on the quiet side. Go figure. And, while I'm baring all here, I can tell you that plenty are the times when I'd like to be YOU.

 

My only little tidbit of advice comes from the perspective of having worked with a difference in...er...loquaciousness for much of our marriage. It has caused some struggles, I will admit. So, allow me to gently suggest that you just keep the lines of communication about this open and relaxed. Try not to allow his lack of interest to leave you feeling rejected. If, for any reason, you feel that the difference is causing stress in your marriage, by all means talk honestly about that to him and possibly even seek some reading material or counseling to help you both.

 

You didn't really ask for advice, did you? Please forgive me if I've stuck my foot in my mouth here.:blushing:

 

Hugs to you!

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I'm new here, but WOW, I think I could really grow to love this board! LOL

 

I agree with a PP that my DH would like some of you ladies. DH wants to chat a bit more often than I do... that is, until we decide to have more kids or during the last month of pregnancy. Then, he can't shut me up! Hee, hee.

 

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And it drove me crazy. Then we found out he had too-low testosterone levels and too much stress. Exercise, sunshine, and a better diet helped both problems. :D Oh, and actually chatting more helped as well by raising his levels. We want to chat about the same amount now. Also, we had a number of talks (literally) about the problem and how to solve it or reach some kind of compromise. We're a bit more like Karen sn now! :D

 

Low T here, too. On the one hand, it was a huge relief to find a *reason,* otoh...sometimes I wonder *how* one lives w/ such a thing. Ime, there's really no one to talk to--I haven't found this to be a common situation, & it can be pretty lonely.

 

It seems like mostly you get, "Wow. You're so lucky." Ha. They can't imagine. Whether or not you're actually in the mood, you start to feel pretty unattractive & rejected, even when you know your dh loves you.

 

I wish I could offer more than sympathy, but we're just not there yet. Not being pg helps, though. ;)

 

:grouphug: I hope some of the other suggestions work for you.

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It seems like mostly you get, "Wow. You're so lucky." Ha. They can't imagine. Whether or not you're actually in the mood, you start to feel pretty unattractive & rejected, even when you know your dh loves you.

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YES! This is it exactly! The feeling unattractive and rejected. It's hard not to take it personally, even though I know DH doesn't mean it that way.

Michelle T

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