Murphy101 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 My poor dh went to the pharmacy to pick up antibiotics for me and the pharmacist told him I would need to take some active yogurt or a probiotic with it to avoid a "flaming yeast infection". Dh was a bit disconcerted by this man to man conversation and having to explain as he walked away to our kids that he took with him what a yeast infection is. Brave man that he is, he trekked to the feminine aisle thinking it would be there and called me to ask which yeast infection stuff I wanted. I told him I didn't have a yeast infection and had never had one so I have no idea and none would be my preferred and why was he asking??? I've heard of other women complaining their antibiotic gave them a yeast infection, but it's not happened to me previously. Do I really need to buy probiotics? Recommendations on kind? I don't want to buy yogurt. Me and dairy haven't been on friendly terms in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Antibiotics have never given me a yeast infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clementine Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I have had one twice - because of antibiotics. It was so miserable!! I think I just bought the Nature's Bounty brand at Walgreens. It wouldn't hurt to take it. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I have had one twice - because of antibiotics. It was so miserable!! I think I just bought the Nature's Bounty brand at Walgreens. It wouldn't hurt to take it. ;) That was my next question. If taking it when I don't need it would toss things out of wack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Antibiotics kill all the bacteria good and bad. It's always a good plan to take a pro biotic . However the antibiotic can kill the good stuff in the probiotic too. Not an expert, but this is what I would recommend. Take the probiotic several hours before or after the antibiotic during the time you are on it. Then take the probiotic for several weeks after the probiotic. We keep PB 8 at our house all the time. No we rarely antibiotics, but DH has gut issues at times. Rarely do drug store or grocery stores carry a good quality one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clementine Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Rarely do drug store or grocery stores carry a good quality one. https://labdoor.com/rankings/probiotics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I'd be far more concerned about c diff than a yeast infection (not that a yeast infection is less likely, just a whole heck of a lot less serious). I recommend Florastor be taken any time someone is on antibiotics. Beyond that, any decent probiotic, taken several hours off from the antibiotic. Good heavens. Looked up c diff online. All medical Google searches end in death. This one apparently is death by diarrhea. :o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Take probiotics. It helps keep the good flora in your gut. The best way to do it is to take the antibiotic, wait a couple of hours and then take the probiotic. That allows them both to do their job without canceling each other out. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yes, c diff is extremely serious! Like stated upthread take the probiotic in between doses of antibiotic to give the good guys a fighting chance. (Eta: what Jean said! I type slowly.) Dumb question: why was yeast infection an embarrassing thing? Am I wrong that yeast infections are just a type of infection that aren't limited to just one area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yes, c diff is extremely serious! Like stated upthread take the probiotic in between doses of antibiotic to give the good guys a fighting chance. Dumb question: why was yeast infection an embarrassing thing? Am I wrong that yeast infections are just a type of infection that aren't limited to just one area? It wasn't embarassing so much as disconcerting and unexpected. Because I've never had one before and he has never gotten such advice when getting me antibiotics before. They aren't limited to one area, but vaginal yeast infections are apparently the most common and that's what the pharmacist was referring to. As in, "It isn't required, but you will likely be thanked if you get her some active yogurt or probiotics to avoid vaginal issues. It's common for this to cause a flaming yeast infection that are rather hard to deal with once they flare up." And dh was all, "uhh. Okaaay. Well we sure don't want mom having flaming vagina issues. Let's go get some of that next, kids." And headed for the Aisle of Womanly Mysteries as he calls it. The kids were just "wha? What's wrong with mom's vagina?! Why is it on fire?!" On the plus side, all my younger children doted on me when they got home bc they think this medicine dad brought home is going to make me one miserable person and they just feel awful for me. I'd laugh really hard but I can't gather enough air for it. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocolatechip Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 My mother would often have us eat yogurt while taking an antibiotic, and then if we could afford it at the time, a course of probiotics AFTER the antibiotic course was finished. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILiveInFlipFlops Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 And dh was all, "uhh. Okaaay. Well we sure don't want mom having flaming vagina issues. Let's go get some of that next, kids." And headed for the Aisle of Womanly Mysteries as he calls it. The kids were just "wha? What's wrong with mom's vagina?! Why is it on fire?!" :svengo: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: We're going down like dominoes here too. I seriously cannot take one more respiratory infection. I just can't. I actually came here to post a thread about it and stopped into yours first. I'm sorry you're so sick, but thank you for the laugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clementine Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 And headed for the Aisle of Womanly Mysteries as he calls it. Okay - my hubby now knows what to call that aisle! Lol! :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Girls' Mom Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I've gotten flaming womanly parts several times after antibiotics. I ran a bout of sickness that resulted in multiple infections this winter...I was on 5 different antibiotics over the course of two months. I just knew I would end up with issues, so I went heavy on probiotics. Not even a hint of flaming nether regions, thankfully! I took them in pill form, along with Good Belly (juice based) and drank Kombucha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfunnybunch Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Antibiotics have never given me a yeast infection. However, my doctor insisted that I take a particular probiotic while taking a heavy-duty antibiotic. She says it's a good idea anyway, because antibiotics can also kill off our good gut bacteria, and that the particular antibiotic she'd prescribed could cause nasty intestinal distress without the probiotic. (FWIW, I only burped a lot. I was taking the probiotic, though.) Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 When you take an antibiotic it kills all the bacteria - both good and bad. That provides a vacuum in your gut flora that other organisms can take advantage of. You don't know what will try to grow there. It could be candida or another yeast. It could be c-difficile (c-diff). It could be that enough of your good bacteria survives and nothing tries to take advantage. But probiotics and probiotic rich foods can even the odds a bit for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 When you take an antibiotic it kills all the bacteria - both good and bad. That provides a vacuum in your gut flora that other organisms can take advantage of. You don't know what will try to grow there. It could be candida or another yeast. It could be c-difficile (c-diff). It could be that enough of your good bacteria survives and nothing tries to take advantage. But probiotics and probiotic rich foods can even the odds a bit for you. I've always known what antibiotics do. I just never heard of pharmacist recommending probiotics and active yogurt for vaginal yeast infections with them though. Drs never said anything about it either. Not that that surprises me either. The antibiotic is a strong precautionary measure for other issues right now, but if probiotics don't hurt, I have no issue with taking them. Dh ordered the flarastor stuff online. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 :svengo: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: We're going down like dominoes here too. I seriously cannot take one more respiratory infection. I just can't. I actually came here to post a thread about it and stopped into yours first. I'm sorry you're so sick, but thank you for the laugh! I had the same reaction to the same quote. Holy cow I'm so glad I opened this thread. (get well soon, Martha ... but that was hilarious). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbridgeacademy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I wouldn't be concerned about a yeast infection, but antibiotics put my tummy out of whack. I do yogurt but a friend of mine always used Probiotics from the health store. As for treating a yeast infection before you have it???? Ummmm, no I wouldn't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasperstone Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I've been told that it's penicillin that's the problem (causing yeast infection). As it comes from mushrooms. Thus, creating candida in the body. So not all antibiotics are problematic etc... Though, I would still take a probotic after any round of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 antibiotics work by killing bacteria. broad spectrum antibiotics will kill any bacteria in your body. that includes the "good bacteria" in your gut. (the kind you want.) gut bacteria and yeast live side by side in the gut. as the bacteria die off, the yeast will take over. I would be more concerned about the state of my gut bacteria than a v yeast infection. (yeast overgrowth can be a problem) that's what the probiotics are for. I would eat a quality yogurt. re: regular commercial yogurts are loaded with sugar. (yeast eats sugar.) get some plain greek yogurt which has six kinds of probiotics. you can add crushed pineapple and coconut. (which was fun. I pureed the pineapple in my mini food-processor). I usually just add berries. my dh adds jam. (which has sugar . . . .) or a good quality probiotic to replace what the antibiotic will kill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 You can get a good quality probiotic from a natural food store or a health food store. I think some vitamin stores carry them as well. You want the ones that are refrigerated, the refrigerated area is where the good ones are kept. :lol: I also like that Good Belly stuff, I am allergic to dairy so I can't have regular yogurt. Some natural food stores carry coconut milk kefir, if they have strawberry flavored that stuff is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 :svengo: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: We're going down like dominoes here too. I seriously cannot take one more respiratory infection. I just can't. I actually came here to post a thread about it and stopped into yours first. I'm sorry you're so sick, but thank you for the laugh! I have been on three rounds of antibiotics since Christmas. It is bull, I am sick of sick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEmama Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 IME it's standard for doctors to recommend eating yogurt or taking probiotics with antibiotics. I've never NOT done that. Recently DS was on 6 weeks of antibiotics for Lyme. In addition to eating yogurt, he drank keifer or Good Belly juice every day, up to a couple weeks after. Even on an extended dose of meds he didn't have any issues. Keifer can often be tolerated by people with dairy sensitivities and s excellent for gut health. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Elf Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Well, I learned something new. I've never been told to take a probiotic with an antibiotic. I like sweet yogurt only, so that would be a problem. What about tablets? Is there a good probiotic that is a tablet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 We have always taken probiotics with antibiotics. Culturelle is a decent brand. Take two hours before or after. Personally, I don't think yogurt is enough and better safe than sorry. My kids have been on heavy duty antiobiotics for several years now and have yet to get a yeast infection, so it works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKim Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Doctors around here have started prescribing (or at least recommending) probiotics with antibiotics. Guess they are finally catching on. We usually just wait until we've finished the round of antibiotics, and then take huge doses of probiotics for a while afterward, instead of trying to time taking them at the same time. Just to build our gut bacteria back up afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Night Elf, on 06 Mar 2015 - 05:01 AM, said:Night Elf, on 06 Mar 2015 - 05:01 AM, said:Night Elf, on 06 Mar 2015 - 05:01 AM, said:Well, I learned something new. I've never been told to take a probiotic with an antibiotic. I like sweet yogurt only, so that would be a problem. What about tablets? Is there a good probiotic that is a tablet? I've had good luck with pro-15. (15 types of probiotics) it is enteric coated so it doesn't start to dissolved until is it IN your gut. (I've taken/looked at a number of different ones.) My son's ND has him taking hlc mindlinx capsules. he just started them. I bought them off amazon. they are refrigerated. (an ice pack should be included with the shipment.) eta: different brands of greek yogurt can have a very different flavor. I don't have the link, but someone did a taste test of six of them and wrote up a comparison. I just buy Costco's plain greek and add berries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I've always known what antibiotics do. I just never heard of pharmacist recommending probiotics and active yogurt for vaginal yeast infections with them though. Drs never said anything about it either. Not that that surprises me either. It amazes me that doctors don't routinely recommend probiotics with antibiotics. This stuff is well-documented and well-known, and has been, like forever. I've even mentioned to the doctors when they prescribe antibiotics to my kids, and they say "oh yeah (now that you mention it) that wouldn't be a bad idea to take probiotics." But they never mention it proactively. Why???? Heck, we just brought the dog to the VET and they insisted we put the doggy on probiotics with his antibiotic so he wouldn't get gut issues, even made dh buy a bunch along with the antibiotic prescription. So, the vet makes sure the dog is okay, but the human doctors remain clueless? I've always known to take the probiotics because waaay back in the dark ages before I was even born, my mom was on antibiotics for a strep throat, and got the flaming nether regions, and after that if she so much as looked at an antiboitic without taking lots and lots of probiotics at the same time, it would recur. So she drilled in the importance of it to me from childhood on! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catz Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 It amazes me that doctors don't routinely recommend probiotics with antibiotics. This stuff is well-documented and well-known, and has been, like forever. I've even mentioned to the doctors when they prescribe antibiotics to my kids, and they say "oh yeah (now that you mention it) that wouldn't be a bad idea to take probiotics." But they never mention it proactively. Why???? Heck, we just brought the dog to the VET and they insisted we put the doggy on probiotics with his antibiotic so he wouldn't get gut issues, even made dh buy a bunch along with the antibiotic prescription. So, the vet makes sure the dog is okay, but the human doctors remain clueless? I've always known to take the probiotics because waaay back in the dark ages before I was even born, my mom was on antibiotics for a strep throat, and got the flaming nether regions, and after that if she so much as looked at an antiboitic without taking lots and lots of probiotics at the same time, it would recur. So she drilled in the importance of it to me from childhood on! :iagree: Both my dd and I have a tendency for gut issues anyway so we always take a probiotic. Just last year when my dd was having a lasting forever stomach bug I asked if doing probiotics with her might be a good idea and the ped was like "umm ... ok ... sure". Seriously? I've been taking them for like 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 When you take an antibiotic it kills all the bacteria - both good and bad. That provides a vacuum in your gut flora that other organisms can take advantage of. You don't know what will try to grow there. It could be candida or another yeast. It could be c-difficile (c-diff). It could be that enough of your good bacteria survives and nothing tries to take advantage. But probiotics and probiotic rich foods can even the odds a bit for you. You mentioned in the other thread that you take a probiotic. What is the one you take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I've never had a yeast infection, but last year when I landed in the hospital with a kidney infection I was given probiotics and told to take so e when I got home too. They seem to be giving them to everyone who takes an antibiotic now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILiveInFlipFlops Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I would eat a quality yogurt. re: regular commercial yogurts are loaded with sugar. (yeast eats sugar.) get some plain greek yogurt which has six kinds of probiotics. you can add crushed pineapple and coconut. (which was fun. I pureed the pineapple in my mini food-processor). I usually just add berries. my dh adds jam. (which has sugar . . . .) This is starting to sound like it needs some rum to go with it! Though I don't think that would work with yogurt. I'd probably leave the yogurt out... I have been on three rounds of antibiotics since Christmas. It is bull, I am sick of sick. I hear you. I'm at least grateful that I haven't gotten hit yet, because I have to take care of everyone else! But I figure it's only a matter of time before my turn comes. You mentioned in the other thread that you take a probiotic. What is the one you take? I wondered the same thing! :bigear: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMamaBird Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 It wasn't embarassing so much as disconcerting and unexpected. Because I've never had one before and he has never gotten such advice when getting me antibiotics before. They aren't limited to one area, but vaginal yeast infections are apparently the most common and that's what the pharmacist was referring to. As in, "It isn't required, but you will likely be thanked if you get her some active yogurt or probiotics to avoid vaginal issues. It's common for this to cause a flaming yeast infection that are rather hard to deal with once they flare up." And dh was all, "uhh. Okaaay. Well we sure don't want mom having flaming vagina issues. Let's go get some of that next, kids." And headed for the Aisle of Womanly Mysteries as he calls it. The kids were just "wha? What's wrong with mom's vagina?! Why is it on fire?!" On the plus side, all my younger children doted on me when they got home bc they think this medicine dad brought home is going to make me one miserable person and they just feel awful for me. I'd laugh really hard but I can't gather enough air for it. I am laughing way too hard over here! Now my stomach hurts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 You mentioned in the other thread that you take a probiotic. What is the one you take? I take the refrigerated Ultimate Flora ones by ReNew Life. They now have a colon specific one too which I found very helpful after having a colonoscopy where they cleaned out the good bacteria as well with the colonoscopy prep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpyTheFrog Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yogurt is NOT enough. You need billions and billions of bacteria each day and most yogurt has colony forming units enough types nor enough strains. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 If the worry is c-diff then the yogurt recommendation comes from a recent study done on patients taking antibiotics in the hospital. The were given two 6 oz portions of a particular yogurt every day during and for a period following the course of medication. The study showed a significant decrease in the amount of c-diff infection in patients taking the yogurt (containing 5 different strains if I remember right). The study is available online. You need to take the yogurt at least two hours before or after the antibiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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