I don’t think you should respond if you don’t want to change anything and her opinion doesn’t matter to you. Setting aside sibling baggage. You wrote this knowing the rest of the family probably wouldn’t appreciate it to various degrees based on past experience at the death of other family members being kept “low key” on this kind of thing - so it isn’t surprising that this is just the way you deciding to write any obit was going to go. That the sister who you think tends to be more out spoken generally is also the one who spoke up about it also shouldn’t be a surprise either. But I think it says a lot that your dad didn’t want it for his wife. It seems unlikely that he wanted it for himself and for ME, that would be the end of it no matter whether I agreed or not with him.

To be fair… are you fluent enough to know that’s what they said even if they did? Personally, I’m 100% that my husband’s cat has told me to flip off when I meow wrong at her. But also… what I’m fascinated by is that different cultures say animals make different sounds! Not every culture says the cow goes mooo, chicken goes cluck cluck, frog goes ribbit-ribbit. or that their onomatopoeias are the same either. Such as knock knock for example. This fascinates me for no profitable reason whatsoever. I makes me want to visit their places and find out if the their animals make different sounds than in other places. Sometimes they actually do!

Dh and I enjoyed Dr Slump. I stopped watching FlexCop after episode 10 iirc. Idk why. Bored? Fun fact. The ML in FlexCop is married with kid(s?) to the FL in Dr Slump irl. Queen of Divorce was fun. Now I’m watching Queen of Tears. And. Dadgum. It is. Today the 9th episode dropped and it’s the first one I didn’t need tissues for. So far it’s a fabulous show. You’ll cry and laugh and cry again. And it hasn’t had a slow moment yet. I’m watching the Taiwanese version of Fated to Love You to recover from watching the Queen of Tears episodes. FTLY is one of my fav kdramas and I’ve watched the Japanese and the Chinese versions. QoT is having a LOT of stunning cameos and Easter eggs from other dramas, namely Crash Landing on You. These two are the only things I’ve had a chance to watch lately.

Dh and I both loved this series and enjoyed season 2. Kim Beum is one of my favorite actors and he did his first ever cameo in a romcom last week for Wedding Impossible - he was the best thing about the entire show which I otherwise wouldn’t recommend. I’m currently watching Queen of Tears on Netflix. Bring your box of tissues and hang on for the emotional roller coaster. Excellent show so far.

I think it’s either Hulu or Prime that had season 3

No experience with that kind of x but otherwise - That is absolutely the accurate response in that situation and I’d totally have felt the same way. 100% Llama mama/wife over here.😆

I remember all the boardies mentioned so far. I miss their voices here.

Dadgum it. If I’m wrong someone point me the link to me bc every single thing I’m finding dead ends to no where. It’s a great program. I have first and second editions and wanted to go print the daily schedule. 😞 I keep thinking I need to get rid of soooo much curriculum instead of saving it years until the next kid can use it now that I’m down to my last 3 kids. But then I want to bulk buy everything too bc I just never know when another provider is going to bite the dust or just stop the particular program I loved.

This. Why do people keep acting like this part didn’t happen?! i’m 100% that if she had had her surgery and recovery done entirely via live streaming there’d still be people saying she was hiding and lying and what all else and that they had a right to that from her bc she’s famous or wealthy or royalty or a woman who should do it to “help” other women. It’s all BS though.

She tended to take that kind of mom role. And I too love her characters for it.

When the publicly available information is from the primary source? Sure. Otherwise it’s just gossip mongering. They did and hope they get their sued into closing for it. Sure. And yet also…. While she may or may not care about protecting a fairy tale image it’s more likely that same as anyone else - she simply has no desire to air her dirty laundry out to public ridicule. And that is her right too. Same as it should be for anyone else. I think in the big picture it doesn’t make one bit of difference. Frankly I think that’s BS. She has always advocated for mental health and family health and women’s health. And a huge part of that is women having the right and freedom to decide what is best for themselves and their family. They didn’t lie. They were not dishonest. They told the entire world more than any one person has a right to know at all. I doubt this will change that. Knowing someone else has stepped in crap doesn’t make anyone else happy about stepping in it. What would save thousands of lives of other mothers with young children is having the same access to medical care that the duchess has. Just hearing about some famous person doesn’t save anyone. Raising awareness about a problem is okay but pointless if it doesn’t supply any actual solution. You can have your opinion but what it’s based on wrt to KM is beyond me. She wasn’t hiding and lying. She was recovering and healing and probably circling the wagons to continue to do so. There’s absolutely nothing unethical about that. In fact - kudos to her for it and her family for supporting her in it. The closest you can get is that someone made the mistake of using a photoshopped image of her and the kids. A mistake for sure, but it’s not on par with hiding and lying. Then frankly that management at the London Clinic should be fired and blackballed from working at medical facilities. No one has said it’s a tragedy she didn’t get privacy. Frankly medical privacy is a joke everywhere. And that is a problem that needs to be addressed and probably never will be bc there’s more money in breaches than any laughable penalty for privacy failure. But as women and mothers and wives? Yeah. I feel for any woman who is going through what she is. And there’s millions. People want open and honest about the weather and how great the kids are doing. When it’s ugly they want to step far and wide of that pile of crap, not walk through it with someone. I’m blessed to have a few good people who have and would walk through it with me. Likely KM had told those who were walking through it with her and that’s all that matters for her and her family. This is the reality for most people in crisis. And that’s not protecting a fairy tale. It’s just people doing what they need to each day.

I think all parents are double concerned about their children’s job prospects bc 1) being poor generally restricts freedom and sucks and 2) the parents are also concerned that if their child needs help - the parent won’t be able to provide a safety net to do that. Letting a young adult make whatever decision they decide on with those facts in mind is not wrong or bad. It’s just reality. It’s rare in life that all of our mistakes are ours alone. And that’s not all wrong or bad either.

Because Inquiring Minds want to know! Anyone else remember those ADs?! It’s the blasted Pentaveret to blame for poor Kate. I know it is bc I read it in the Weekly World News, which has FACTS and over 10 million subscribers.

rarely was it all day. Except in cities. I would rephrase that to they had different pollution. Average families of the cities during early industrial times? Idk about that. I think the problem is different but still a problem. While back then the pollutants where easy to see what with the black smoke stacks and colored or weird smelling water - that we have managed to make things prettier doesn’t necessarily mean it’s less polluted. But the one thing I know to be fact is never question that things can indeed be worse.

Though honestly they mistake focus with entertained and end up with unreasonable expectations. Most teens and adults deeply focus best in 20 minute intervals. Maybe 30 minutes. But after that their focus starts to wain. So while they might continue to make the effort, they’d probably study better if they stopped after 20-30 minutes to do something else and then come back to it in 30 minutes.

So take that info and combine it with the digital dungeon affect when most school work is online and most “social” interaction is online and work from home scenarios - so that dynamic means they are enduring the same unresolved pollution issues of 15 years ago, but enduring it in an extended concentrated manner.

But again. Messing with them - why? Just for funzies? Okaaay. Sure people often and understandably go a bit wackado when in marriage crisis but I’m 100% confident that if she wanted to mess with the family or mess the family over - she could do better at it by saying one sentence than by sending this photo.

To what purpose? Is there a hidden message we need to decipher? I think it’s more likely it was something she was working on and hadn’t finished and someone else used it without paying much attention to details. idk. That’s what I know. Idk. 🤷‍♀️ I think it’s all weird. I think it’s sad if she's been having to fake that the family her and William have made together is built on sand instead of solid ground. Or that the family is fine but she very much isn’t. Or maybe worse. That she really did believe they were solid and had her world turned upside down when she found out it wasn’t. But really that’s also unfortunately normal life too. Being Royal and wealthy and beautiful doesn’t protect from that happening. If anything it makes it more likely.

Meh. Make no mistake people were pretty good at getting crazier without any excuses long before this.

It’s possible they scheduled something they thought they had time to address and then things worsen and the surgery couldn’t wait. It happens. Frequently actually.

It just shows a shadowy looking area on his upper jaw. Could be bruise. Could be shadow. 🤷‍♀️ I have a hard time believing he’d go out with an obvious black eye and bruise. I mean. These people have money and means to get makeup to cover that? But then again. The weird photo shop doesn’t make sense either.

Ugh. I once had someone comment that my kids were going to be “behind” bc other kids were learning how to make power points in 4th grade. To which I responded, Do you know what computer the people who invented computers used? The people who invented nearly all our tech didn’t have any of it as kids. Also. If a 4th grade can make a power point, I’m confident that if they aren’t obsolete (which would be for the better) when my kids are teens or adults - then as an adult I’m sure they will be able to learn it. Since the entire premise of tech is that it is supposed to be a tool that makes it easier to do something.

The supposedly most successful people tend to send their kids to very expensive private schools that also tend to be very low tech. The more successful in technology parents, the more likely this is true. I don’t think we need to send teens to Amish schools, but I do think tech should be far more narrow in scope of use and doesn’t replace actual in hand materials and teaching of a teacher.

I’m so sorry. It’s so hard to see teens and young adult struggle with mental illness. Depression is such a unaffecting word. So is “brain fog”. They sound so… trivial. It sounds like someone saying, “Hey, today’s brain forecast is some midday fog and mostly cloudy with a chance of tears - so take some meds with you today and don’t forget your smile!” We need some kind of better more emphatic descriptive language for how difficult this illness is.

There is so much to address in this post that I could write a clinical paper for it all. Firstly. Like Faith-Manor said, the bulk of the foundational skills needed to accept, understand, and execute the help you describe here is built primarily before age 7 and often much of that foundation is starting to settle or firm up by age 12/14. Now that does NOT mean it isn’t possible for high schoolers or even adults to manage to build up that foundation later. But it DOES mean that the foundation needs a lot of scaffolding to build it during that time. And it DOES mean that those people are going to have 2-3x the work bc effort to manage building foundation AND also at the same time accept, understand and execute that help. It’s like trying to build a house frame while still pouring foundation. Is it possible? Yes. Is it hella harder and more prone to falling apart? Absolutely. As though that’s not enough, don’t forget that nature decides to slap on some fresh hot puberty to deal with too. Actually this is normal for teen development. Up to age 12/14, kids are expanding their world and learning by exponents. At about that age though most kids start to narrow their interests. And a lot of that process is eliminations. They become less interested in their nuclear world and more interested in where they fit in the bigger world. And a huge part of that is the internet and peers. While you are different people, you do not have different brains. “Kids today” are not some new species of human. I 100% agree with you about the digital overload being a problem more than it’s a solution at these ages. Far too often I see “figure it out (online)” as nothing more than a teacher who can’t or won’t teach and then gets upset when students and parents don’t value them as teachers. Absolutely. The same teachers who struggle with how to use the same chrome books their students have and still think teaching via death by power point is “dynamic teaching with technology” will be the same teacher that ironically can’t grasp that their students can’t and shouldn’t have to sift through the ocean depths of the World Wide Web to discern what is useful and creditable towards answering their questions in a way they understand by end of class tomorrow. And I think it’s because of this insidious presumption that “kids today have different brains/are different”. No. They are not. in more ways than not, kids today are not much different from kids 50 years ago. What’s different is the environment adults have created for students to try to navigate.