LG Gone Wild Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I agree that current dress trend is appalling but I think the author should do a follow up article on how parents should not dress their boys like village idiots or play dress up thugs. I really, really, really HATE seeing boys/men without their shirts and their pants so low you see the "v" to the "p". Or stupid ripped up shirts so that I can see all their pit hair. Or their underpants. Or their pants essentially around the ankles. Or untied shoes. Or hats on sideways. Ok. Got that off my chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCyndiGirl Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I agree with you. Totally. But, I still can't figure out what "the v to the p" is? :confused: ~ThatTragicallyUnhipCyndiGirl :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I can't stand the tees with the idiotic slogans and graphics. My mom will buy tees like that because they are on sale. They go straight to the donation pile. I refuse to put them on my boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I agree with you. Totally. But, I still can't figure out what "the v to the p" is? :confused: ~ThatTragicallyUnhipCyndiGirl :001_huh: I think that she is talking about the part of the abdomen that forms a "v" in men leading to the pubic area. Pants would have to be below hips to show this area. In my day, it was scandalous to see a man's happy trail which sometimes starts at their chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snickerdoodle Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 But, I still can't figure out what "the v to the p" is? :confused: Neither can I. I just don't like the saggy pants with all of the underwear showing thing. First, I thought this was and old thing from the 80's or 90's. Secondly, it just looks stupid. Thirdly, someone told me it had jail bird connotations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWhite Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 NOW I realize why I have always told my boys their hats need to be on forward or backward. I never knew why that bugged me before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 This must have been a generational thing that happened between my son's age and current young teens. My son did wear his shorts a little low but that was about it. The boys around here almost seem over dressed. They layer as much as my dd's. I currently have 3 male teens in my dining room. It is 75 degrees and they are all wearing two shirts, hoodies, jeans (pulled up to teh waist), sneakers and hats. Boys around here frequently wear slacks as well. I am very happy with the school dress code here because it is pretty strict and seems to spill over into out of school dress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewellsmommy Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I agree that current dress trend is appalling but I think the author should do a follow up article on how parents should not dress their boys like village idiots or play dress up thugs. I really, really, really HATE seeing boys/men without their shirts and their pants so low you see the "v" to the "p". Or stupid ripped up shirts so that I can see all their pit hair. Or their underpants. Or their pants essentially around the ankles. Or untied shoes. Or hats on sideways. Ok. Got that off my chest. :iagree: Very much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeghanL Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 He did refer to boys in the original article. I don't have the exact quote in front of me but it was something to the affect of: Little Wayne is popular but I don't let my son wear his pants dragging on the ground. So, I think he was trying to bring boys dress in to the debate as well. I think the focus is more on the female gender because the studies have shown eating disorders, depression and body image problems directly related to the dressing sexy at a younger age. To my knowledge, wearing thug clothes does not have the same psychological effect on boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 :iagree: And if I'm seeing any crack in my house, they better be fixing some plumbing or something equally useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 He did refer to boys in the original article. I don't have the exact quote in front of me but it was something to the affect of: Little Wayne is popular but I don't let my son wear his pants dragging on the ground. So, I think he was trying to bring boys dress in to the debate as well. I think the focus is more on the female gender because the studies have shown eating disorders, depression and body image problems directly related to the dressing sexy at a younger age. To my knowledge, wearing thug clothes does not have the same psychological effect on boys. I'd swear that it causes brain damage though. LOL. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCyndiGirl Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I think that she is talking about the part of the abdomen that forms a "v" in men leading to the pubic area. Pants would have to be below hips to show this area. In my day, it was scandalous to see a man's happy trail which sometimes starts at their chest. Ohdear. Vanilla Ice/Markee Mark, et. al. :001_huh: "Say 'hi' to your mother for me!" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I saw a boy the other day with big baggy shorts on (below the hips of course) and a really tight long shirt. It was very feminine looking. I also noticed while watching some old movies (80s and before) that the pants that came to their waist were more attractive and actually accentuated the male form. Now it seems if a man has a shirt on then he has no form.* Anyone know what I mean? *If his shirt is off then you can see the V shape... talk about scandalous. I think a woman being topless is more acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinF Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 He did kind of address it (in the article I read) where he said "The way I see it, my son can go to therapy later if my strict rules have scarred him. But I have peace knowing he'll be able to afford therapy as an adult because I didn't allow him to wear or do whatever he wanted as a kid." and something about his boys wearing pants that fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 He did kind of address it (in the article I read) where he said "The way I see it, my son can go to therapy later if my strict rules have scarred him. But I have peace knowing he'll be able to afford therapy as an adult because I didn't allow him to wear or do whatever he wanted as a kid." and something about his boys wearing pants that fit. He did which is what gave the hope for a follow-up article. He could greatly expand on that equally problematic area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraGB Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I agree that current dress trend is appalling but I think the author should do a follow up article on how parents should not dress their boys like village idiots or play dress up thugs. I really, really, really HATE seeing boys/men without their shirts and their pants so low you see the "v" to the "p". Or stupid ripped up shirts so that I can see all their pit hair. Or their underpants. Or their pants essentially around the ankles. Or untied shoes. Or hats on sideways. Ok. Got that off my chest. :iagree::iagree::iagree: The kids have a young-ish sports instructor - I love this guy; he's cute, he's smart, he's dedicated, he's funny, he's fantastic with all the kids...and then I got a load of his red and white boxers, not once, but twice, and now I can't look at him the same anymore. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdalley Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I'd swear that it causes brain damage though. LOL. :lol: Probably because having pants down around their knees causes them to trip and hit their heads. :D My boys will not have ripped up clothes, baggy pants, etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanier.1765 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I agree that current dress trend is appalling but I think the author should do a follow up article on how parents should not dress their boys like village idiots or play dress up thugs. I just have to tell you that recently I bought my son a shirt from the Renaissance Fair that says "Village Idiot" across the chest. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I can't stand the tees with the idiotic slogans and graphics. Me neither! I can't believe what some of them say! I once walked around the boys' section and couldn't find a regular type of t-shirt. But then, my local Macy's hardly even HAS a section for boys between the ages of 18 mo and 8 years. Seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristavws Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I agree with everything in the OP's post, but have to say this was great for a morning laugh In my day, it was scandalous to see a man's happy trail which sometimes starts at their chest. "happy trail" - I had never heard this phrase before :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I can't stand the tees with the idiotic slogans and graphics. What counts as "idiotic"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 What counts as "idiotic"? I shuddered at one I can't quite remember that suggested that the kid had offered the other person chocolate, except it was really mouse droppings. I see an enormous number of this sort at JCPenney. Here are some from their website: Lead me not to temptation...I can find it myself Rub me for luck A big delight in every bite (picture of a twinkie lassoing something, obviously a phallic reference) Game Over (picture of man and woman in bridal outfit) This is the part where I pretend I am listening If I ignore you will you go away? It's not that I forget, it's just that I don't care Sarcasm, just one of the services I provide I can't hear you, I've got my head up my bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWhite Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 [/url]A big delight in every bite (picture of a twinkie lassoing something, obviously a phallic reference) Honestly, I think this is a retro Twinkie commercial. I can't make that look like a phallic reference no matter what way I turn the screen. I suppose to some people it could be suggestive but not to my notion. Tacky though, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) Honestly, I think this is a retro Twinkie commercial. I can't make that look like a phallic reference no matter what way I turn the screen. I suppose to some people it could be suggestive but not to my notion. Tacky though, for sure. Yes, I get the retro Twinkie ad. But it looks very phallic to me, in every direction! Especially pointed up! With that hat!!! I cannot be the only one. (Urban dictionary makes this comment: " The phallic shape of the "TWINKIE" snack cake should not escape the reader's attention.") ... I realize that this t-shirt reflects the slogan for Twinkies. But why would a teenaged boy wear a tube-shaped pastry on his shirt, advertising a delight in every bite?, is the question. Edited April 21, 2011 by stripe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Found on a T-shirt featuring Daisy and Peach (Super Mario for nintendo characters) "Two girls, one up". :banghead: DD loves Daisy and Peach. I had to tell her that the T-shirt was not acceptable without explaining why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 Found on a T-shirt featuring Daisy and Peach (Super Mario for nintendo characters) "Two girls, one up". :banghead: DD loves Daisy and Peach. I had to tell her that the T-shirt was not acceptable without explaining why. Okay, that one I don't get. PM me to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 But why would a teenaged boy wear a tube-shaped pastry on his shirt, advertising a delight in every bite?, is the question. Oh BARF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in Neverland Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Oh BARF :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) Yes, I get the retro Twinkie ad. But it looks very phallic to me, in every direction! Especially pointed up! With that hat!!! I cannot be the only one. (Urban dictionary makes this comment: " The phallic shape of the "TWINKIE" snack cake should not escape the reader's attention.") ... I realize that this t-shirt reflects the slogan for Twinkies. But why would a teenaged boy wear a tube-shaped pastry on his shirt, advertising a delight in every bite?, is the question. I am almost ashamed to admit that I bought this for my future SIL as a pj shirt and he wears it everytime I visit. I am a baaad mom. He is 20 year old though and has the sense to keep it to house wear. I also have a shirt that says, "Don't make me pee on you. :angry:" (alpha female joke) I have and odd sense of humor. :001_smile: ETA: I bought the shirt that I linked above, not the one mentioned here. The one I bought has a little more ambiguity but still, I have no excuse. Edited April 21, 2011 by KidsHappen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 ... I realize that this t-shirt reflects the slogan for Twinkies. But why would a teenaged boy wear a tube-shaped pastry on his shirt, advertising a delight in every bite?, is the question. For the same reason that a girl plasters juicy across her rear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCyndiGirl Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Yes, I get the retro Twinkie ad. But it looks very phallic to me, in every direction! Especially pointed up! With that hat!!! I cannot be the only one. (Urban dictionary makes this comment: " The phallic shape of the "TWINKIE" snack cake should not escape the reader's attention.") ... I realize that this t-shirt reflects the slogan for Twinkies. But why would a teenaged boy wear a tube-shaped pastry on his shirt, advertising a delight in every bite?, is the question. I saw hat-wearing Twinkies for years as a kid and never thought of them as naughty. :lol: Besides which, wouldn't a guy HATE a reference to....uhm....BITING?!~ :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohdanigirl Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Sorry, but could you lnk the artcle you are referring to? Thanks. Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Oh BARF I was told it wasn't phallic! So are we to believe he just really likes twinkies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnitWit Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Okay my dd owns "If I ignore you will you go away?" and "If I throw a stick, will you leave?" It is her commentary on the smarmy *Romeos* who think that every girl is just waiting on them to cross her path. :lol (Hers are words only, no pics. ) But, I agree that boys' dress can use some work as well. And PUH-LEEZE with the skin tight, skinny leg jeans! blech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Found on a T-shirt featuring Daisy and Peach (Super Mario for nintendo characters) "Two girls, one up". :banghead: DD loves Daisy and Peach. I had to tell her that the T-shirt was not acceptable without explaining why. I recently had the same conversation with my daughter. It makes me sad that T-shirt companies think clever wording that has a sexual connotation is appropriate. My daughter really wanted that shirt. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Girls' Mom Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 The sagging pants are epidemic here in Fort Worth. You can't go anywhere without seeing some kid waddling down the street with a death grip on their fly so they can walk without tripping. I seriously do. not. get. it. There's even a huge billboard on the freeway that says "Big Mama says: PULL YO PANTS UP!!" My daughter wants to start a donation program. She thinks we should keep a pile of belts in the car and hand them out to all the poor boys that can't keep their pants up :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freerange Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 My daughter wants to start a donation program. She thinks we should keep a pile of belts in the car and hand them out to all the poor boys that can't keep their pants up :lol: I love your daughter's thinking. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HejKatt Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I believe this is the article? http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-19/opinion/granderson.children.dress_1_elementary-school-girls-push-up-bra-plastic-surgeon/2?_s=PM:OPINION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Honestly, I think this is a retro Twinkie commercial. I can't make that look like a phallic reference no matter what way I turn the screen. I suppose to some people it could be suggestive but not to my notion. Tacky though, for sure. Try this one: http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dtwinkie%2Bt-shirt%26fr%3Db2ie7&w=261&h=261&imgurl=www.spacedust.com%2Fwp-content%2Fthemes%2Fviroshop%2Ftimthumb.php%3Fsrc%3Dhttp%3A&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spacedust.com%2Ft-shirts%2Fretro-t-shirts%2Ftwinkie%2F&size=115KB&name=Vintage+Hostess+...&p=twinkie+t-shirt&oid=14b94cd2a378e7f1540ee4bdcb79975e&fr2=&no=12&tt=248&sigr=11pvisk63&sigi=123l0qlm6&sigb=12oub20as&.crumb=fJiTUEXipC4. I hope that links works. If not do a image search on yahoo and look at the Twinkie shirt that says, "It's what's on the inside that counts." There is also one that says something about filled with creamy goodness. I think these ones are much more obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn in OH Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Found on a T-shirt featuring Daisy and Peach (Super Mario for nintendo characters) "Two girls, one up". :banghead: DD loves Daisy and Peach. I had to tell her that the T-shirt was not acceptable without explaining why. I don't get it. When did I become my mother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWhite Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I'm still :confused: about the Twinkies. I guess it is the uber-sheltered homeschooled for high school little goody two shoes girl in me. I refuse to believe Hostess is peddling phalluses (phalli?). :svengo::ack2::leaving: I have been accused of hiding my head in the sand ostrich-style on other issues IRL- I guess my head is back in the sand over this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCyndiGirl Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I'm still :confused: about the Twinkies. I guess it is the uber-sheltered homeschooled for high school little goody two shoes girl in me. I refuse to believe Hostess is peddling phalluses (phalli?). :svengo::ack2::leaving: I have been accused of hiding my head in the sand ostrich-style on other issues IRL- I guess my head is back in the sand over this one. Great. All this TwinkieTalk has got me craving the phallic cakes. :glare: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I agree that current dress trend is appalling but I think the author should do a follow up article on how parents should not dress their boys like village idiots or play dress up thugs. I really, really, really HATE seeing boys/men without their shirts and their pants so low you see the "v" to the "p". Or stupid ripped up shirts so that I can see all their pit hair. Or their underpants. Or their pants essentially around the ankles. Or untied shoes. Or hats on sideways. Ok. Got that off my chest. :iagree::iagree::iagree: Thanks for saying that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I don't get it. When did I become my mother? When you had kids of your own. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I'm still :confused: about the Twinkies. I guess it is the uber-sheltered homeschooled for high school little goody two shoes girl in me. I refuse to believe Hostess is peddling phalluses (phalli?). :svengo::ack2::leaving: I have been accused of hiding my head in the sand ostrich-style on other issues IRL- I guess my head is back in the sand over this one. Hostess isn't doing it. Someone with a dirty mind saw a Twinkie and thought, "Cream filled, phallic shaped snack, hmmm." and then made a t-shirt. I'll send you a pm regarding the implication. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn in OH Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 When you had kids of your own. ;) I meant when did I become clueless. I used to be "cool" and "in the know". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Hostess isn't doing it. Someone with a dirty mind saw a Twinkie and thought, "Cream filled, phallic shaped snack, hmmm." and then made a t-shirt. I'll send you a pm regarding the implication. ;) Not really. It is an old slogan of theirs, and JCPenney sells other shirts with advertising on it (Mountain Dew, Dr Pepper, etc). Here is a photo of a 1978 comic book with a Twinkie plug: As the vintage slogan said, "You get a big delight in every bite." http://www.hostesscakes.com/cupcakes.asp Here is the old TV ad in which Twinkie is out lassoing things. http://wn.com/Classic_Twinkies_Commercial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 so that I can see all their pit hair. Ugh - brain bleach please! Found on a T-shirt featuring Daisy and Peach (Super Mario for nintendo characters) "Two girls, one up". :banghead: :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Not really. It is an old slogan of theirs, and JCPenney sells other shirts with advertising on it (Mountain Dew, Dr Pepper, etc). Here is a photo of a 1978 comic book with a Twinkie plug: http://www.hostesscakes.com/cupcakes.asp Here is the old TV ad in which Twinkie is out lassoing things. http://wn.com/Classic_Twinkies_Commercial Well, now I am confused. I knew that the Twinkie with Lasso and the bite slogan was from an old Twinkie ad but I thought that the tee I linked was just a new play (more risque') on this. However, now I see that it says vintage t-shirt: http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dtwinkie%2Bt-shirt%26fr%3Db2ie7&w=261&h=261&imgurl=www.spacedust.com%2Fwp-content%2Fthemes%2Fviroshop%2Ftimthumb.php%3Fsrc%3Dhttp%3A&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spacedust.com%2Ft-shirts%2Fretro-t-shirts%2Ftwinkie%2F&size=115KB&name=Vintage+Hostess+...&p=twinkie+t-shirt&oid=14b94cd2a378e7f1540ee4bdcb79975e&fr2=&no=12&tt=248&sigr=11pvisk63&sigi=123l0qlm6&sigb=12oub20as&.crumb=fJiTUEXipC4 . I really don't recall ever seeing this particular ad before this past year, just the ones that you linked. I was thinking that the original just seemed less perverse and I was trying to figure out why. I thought that maybe personifying it by having it standing up-right with a hat was what made the difference but then realized while describing it in words that made it seem more so not less, so I am going to have to go with the addition of the arms, legs and lasso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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