Sasharowan Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 What science programs are there for logic stage? We tried Science Explorer this year and it bombed majorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I am using Oak Meadow's sciences which are not so dry and textbook-y, but have lots of great info presented in a format that my kids like. They have good samples online to look at too. I know there are several other OM users here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckymama Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Never fear, CPO girl is here :lol: Go here, hover over the educator's tab and you'll see the choices for middle school science. It is written for 6-8th grades but I'm using Earth Science with great success in 5th grade. She LOVES the hands-on aspect! There are lots of threads about CPO---if you click on the tags I just added, you'll find some of them :) And CPO is secular. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be using it :D Edited November 17, 2010 by Luckymama adding more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooh bear Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I would like to know as well. We tried using the Chem C1000 kit, and to say it was a flop, is a major understatement. And then there is the added challenge of finding something secular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooh bear Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Never fear, CPO girl is here :lol: Go here, hover over the educator's tab and you'll see the choices for middle school science. It is written for 6-8th grades but I'm using Earth Science with great success in 5th grade. She LOVES the hands-on aspect! There are lots of threads about CPO---if you click on the tags I just added, you'll find some of them :) Please tell me that I don't have to spend $2,100 just on science! :svengo: Could I just buy the student book and the investigation manual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Please tell me that I don't have to spend $2,100 just on science! :svengo: Could I just buy the student book and the investigation manual? Only if you want 30 textbooks :p It still looks pricey... 70 for the student set (okay) 130 for the teacher's guide... and then 1175 for the equipment??? Or is there a way to get the equipment separate? Edited November 17, 2010 by lionfamily1999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda in FL Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 We're using Rainbow Science for 7th and 8th grade. Rainbow Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckymama Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Oh gracious, no, it's not that expensive! I bought the student text, the teacher's text (which is sooooooo much more than I expected) and the investigation manual (ie lab book). You don't even need to buy the lab book because it's all there for download on the book's webpage, right side in "ancillaries" as "Student Record Sheets." I probably spent $70 for all including shipping from three different sources through Amazon used. And I think I've spent $25 so far on supplies for Earth Science----two plastic paint tray liners, sand, rocks, some PVC bits, thermometers, a scratch plate, HCl, a spectrograph. We already owned a bucket w/ spigot and a regular bucket, two clip-on workbench-type lights and a few other things. I've got posts on my blog for the labs we've adapted. Another one will be up as soon as I get back to finish it. Life will be cost a bit more because I'll need slides and some specimens, but I'd need those for any Life curriculum anyway. Physical will take more adapting----I've got time to figure that out! There are two different series----the "regular" CPO Earth/Life/Physical and the California-standards-based CPO Focus on...(Earth/Life/Physical). The only differences between the two series are where some topics are covered, in Earth or in Physical. If you start with one series, stick with it so that you don't have a gap or a repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I'm considering this, but the supply list is somewhat daunting! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate in VA Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I haven't tried this myself but looking into it for next year.... It also just came out and there are other courses (that follow) coming out soon.... The samples look great :D Classiquest Science hth kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 A friend reminded me of Joy Hakim's The Story of Science series, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritaserum Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I haven't tried this myself but looking into it for next year.... It also just came out and there are other courses (that follow) coming out soon.... The samples look great :D Classiquest Science hth kate Secular or not? Please secular? :) I can't open the samples files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooh bear Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I haven't tried this myself but looking into it for next year.... It also just came out and there are other courses (that follow) coming out soon.... The samples look great :D Classiquest Science hth kate That look very interested, but the title of the page puts me off a little The bestest materials for classical educators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagira Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Singapore Interactive Science for Inquiring Minds is another science program to consider for the Logic Stage, and the one I'm aiming to use in.. oh, 5 years or so :D I do like the texts for CPO too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 That look very interested, but the title of the page puts me off a little :iagree: I get jokes... but they can make me wary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateLeft Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Thank you for the clarifications regarding CPO. I've looked at it before, but didn't spend much time on the website since it was so clearly geared towards classroom purchasers. (I'm goofy like that.) I'll have to check it out again for my son next year! My 7th grader is using Oak Meadow life science this year, and my oldest used OM physical science in 8th grade a couple of years ago. In 6th and 7th, my oldest used K12's earth science and life science, which she loved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I don't necessarily follow SWB's order for science, and my 7th grader asked to do chemistry this year. We're using NOEO with the Chem2000 kit. So far it's okay, and while the company isn't secular, the program is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patchfire Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Another option is PLATO. While I wouldn't consider it a complete course on its own, it's a great 'spine.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 It's basically a reading schedule andset of lesson plans incorporating Kingfisher Encyclopedia of Science and another science reference or two from Usborne. Extras like memorization and experiments are thrown in. So it's not a "program", per se, IMO. It pulls together resources for you, from what I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Thank you for sharing this one! I forgot to look at Singapore... *jotting down options*... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate in VA Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Secular or not? Please secular? :) I can't open the samples files. I do believe it is secular... you may not be able to open the files because it use a new version of adobe.... see if your needs updating... mine did... "bestest"! Ha I wonder if they realized this.... if so I find that funny... we use that "word" here but only joking of course..... that wouldn't deter me though.....I have seen many more typos in homeschooling curriculum that have been worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiobrain Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Well, as I am insane and cannot ever go with any one science text... I am using... sporadically... CPO Focus on Life Science (used, think I spend $40 for TM, ST, Investigations man.) OM Life Science (Thanks to Caitlin for loaning this to me for the year!xoxox) Galore Park So You Really Want to learn Science book 1 Hakim: Newton at the center We also have some outside science classes. All are good, secular, and all are quite different from each other. I am a bit of a sideways thinker in regards to science...so this spazzy way of doing things doesn't phase me. As I have my math, LA and History completely locked in... I can let science be my monster lab. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasharowan Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 I haven't tried this myself but looking into it for next year.... It also just came out and there are other courses (that follow) coming out soon.... The samples look great :D Classiquest Science hth kate This looks great. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verity Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 We have been using Noeo Chemistry II this year and so far we are getting more science done than in previous years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacy in NJ Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 fine for 6/7/8 grades by Apologia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMom2One Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 fine for 6/7/8 grades by Apologia. :iagree::iagree::iagree: That's our plan too! Blessings, Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 We have been using Noeo Chemistry II this year and so far we are getting more science done than in previous years. We're using Chemistry III, but I have to say the same thing. We are actually getting science done on a regular basis. So far, Chemistry is the only science available in Level III. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 :iagree: I get jokes... but they can make me wary. Do you really think they are joking? Because nothing else about this website gives me the sense that they would joke. Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I have bought both Science Explorer and CPO science books, but I always end up going back to putting together the study myself, sorry! I just have never really found a "text" or complete program that I like enough to do it stand alone, without adding in lots of extra reading, videos, field trips, and other project work. Someone else just asked in another thread what text we'd use if we were using a text and I told them basically I guess I'd use Conceptual Chemistry and Physics, and a biology book by Hoagland. I linked to those in that thread if you want to look at them. Although I must say that I bought Conceptual Physics and didn't end up using it, because my son was doing algebra at the time and I knew that he would balk at having what he considered "two math classes" every day. He ended up choosing to do a dual credit geology course that year (ninth), instead. And I did use the Hoagland book with him for biology (eighth), but I also supplemented the reading list heavily with suggested works from the end of those chapters and tons of other books, as well as outside bio classes taught by biology folks who covered various topics, did some dissecting, etc. So is there a stand alone program that covers the reading, the written work that you need to help cement the reading, the projects and experiments? I guess the Apologia high school books or BJU high school books that have experiment kits readily available to go along with them do the best job of covering the most of these bases (though not all). But I've just never liked Apologia (and don't like texts, in general, so I can't bring myself to try these).... For earth science for older kids, I've always looked at the Ring of Fire stuff, which is pricey. If my older son hadn't chosen a dual credit, then I probably would have done that with him. I linked that one in the other thread, too.... There is a high school level science program out now that I saw at convention this past spring. When I have a chance, I'll see if I can find it and link it. For kids who are science oriented, it might be a good program. I will also say that I love the look of the Apologia middle school science books, but I can't see covering so narrow a topic as only mammals or only birds for an entire year, or even an entire semester, when the subject of biology is so very broad and I'm only taking one shot at it for middle school.... Ellen McHenry's Organic Chemistry program is good for middle school, and she has lots of games and additional info at her website, too, but it alone is not meaty enough for an entire year's worth of work, in my opinion. I am using it this year, but along with her Elements program, another chemistry program called Friendly Chemistry, John Tiner's history of chemistry book, a big workbook I found that drills him on the elements and matter, and a ton of other stuff I've put together. So no, it's not stand alone by any means unless you want to go light on science.... For earth science last year, I ended up using the MSNucleus website and Oregon State's Volcano World sites as my "spines". They both include activities and experiments. The MSN site now sells some kits that are ready made to use with their labs. The OS site has tests. It is undergoing rehab right now, so I don't think they have back up all their modules yet.... I still added in a bunch of other stuff that I pulled together.... And for middle school bio, you don't even want to know the number of books we used.... So yes, I'd love to see a good, comprehensive type of program developed, but I haven't seen one yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 And here's the link to that thread: http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224950 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany in Texas Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I really want those videos. I don't want to jump ship on my current book but I think I might be able to supplement with these videos. Has anyone watched them? Are they worth $99? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekmom Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 That look very interested, but the title of the page puts me off a little I checked out the website and seeing "bestest" was more than I could take. I emailed the company about it... this was their response if you're interested: Thank you so much for calling this to my attention. Actually, it is not a joke but an error. The mistake is the result of a late night edit to the website that did not seem to be "taking". I had to change the wording to see if the required text changes were, in fact, being fed to the server. And then I simply forgot to change it back. It has been corrected, but my embarrassment is sure to last for some time. Again, thank you for making me aware of my blunder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny_Weatherwax Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I am using Apologia for my DS but I am supplementing with stuff from the local community college's library. I am finding lots of good resources there. DS does quite a bit of online research, too. And then there are the field trips. Fun, fun, fun!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I checked out the website and seeing "bestest" was more than I could take. I emailed the company about it... this was their response if you're interested: Thank you so much for calling this to my attention. Actually, it is not a joke but an error. The mistake is the result of a late night edit to the website that did not seem to be "taking". I had to change the wording to see if the required text changes were, in fact, being fed to the server. And then I simply forgot to change it back. It has been corrected, but my embarrassment is sure to last for some time. Again, thank you for making me aware of my blunder. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Do you really think they are joking? Because nothing else about this website gives me the sense that they would joke. Odd.Apparently not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanagnostos Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 We're using Science Excursion, but I don't care for it at all. I just ordered CPO Earth Science from Amazon and hoping (fingers crossed) that it will be something we like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Apparently not. Well, then, that's the worstest way (or at least not the bestest) to get business.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcskipper Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 :iagree: I just got the ClassiQuest Biology for Logic Stage and it looks really solid and fun! We're going to start it in Jan. Best, Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I checked out the website and seeing "bestest" was more than I could take. I emailed the company about it... this was their response if you're interested: Thank you so much for calling this to my attention. Actually, it is not a joke but an error. The mistake is the result of a late night edit to the website that did not seem to be "taking". I had to change the wording to see if the required text changes were, in fact, being fed to the server. And then I simply forgot to change it back. It has been corrected, but my embarrassment is sure to last for some time. Again, thank you for making me aware of my blunder. :D What a great reply. I guess they now know that late night is probably the worstest time to be editing published material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dovrar Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Ellen McHenry's Organic Chemistry program is good for middle school, and she has lots of games and additional info at her website, too, but it alone is not meaty enough for an entire year's worth of work, in my opinion. I am using it this year, but along with her Elements program, another chemistry program called Friendly Chemistry, John Tiner's history of chemistry book, a big workbook I found that drills him on the elements and matter, and a ton of other stuff I've put together. So no, it's not stand alone by any means unless you want to go light on science.... Do McHenry's programs overlap with Friendly Chemistry? What I saw of Friendly Chemistry seemed too much overlap for what it costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Friendly Chemistry is all about equation writing. There's more of that in the book than any other single topic of work, I think. I'm adding it in a little later and it's been years since I did it with my older son, so ask me later in the school year what I think of it once I'm back into it and I'll let you know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristavws Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 :iagree: I just got the ClassiQuest Biology for Logic Stage and it looks really solid and fun! We're going to start it in Jan. Best, Tara Please, please post a review!!! Krista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Well, then, that's the worstest way (or at least not the bestest) to get business.:D I was starting to wonder if the name was Classicest with a spelling oops thrown in to boot :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I really want those videos. I don't want to jump ship on my current book but I think I might be able to supplement with these videos. Has anyone watched them? Are they worth $99? Where did you find CPO science videos for $99? :confused: Are these different from the free short videos on the website? Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschnee Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Listening in, that's all. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmermom3 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Has anyone used any of the Walch Education science books? I will confess to a certain fondness for Walch Publishing. Whenever I have a quirky homeschool need to fill, they seem to have the right product. My kids dislike worksheets intensely but the Walch books seem to be the exception. Swimmer Dude and I were thinking of adding Introduction to Biotechnology and Forensics from the Hands-On Science Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Has anyone used any of the Walch Education science books? I will confess to a certain fondness for Walch Publishing. Whenever I have a quirky homeschool need to fill, they seem to have the right product. My kids dislike worksheets intensely but the Walch books seem to be the exception. Swimmer Dude and I were thinking of adding Introduction to Biotechnology and Forensics from the Hands-On Science Series. Those look great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Please let us know how these work out if you try them. I've been thinking we need an incubator! Capt_Uhura Has anyone used any of the Walch Education science books? I will confess to a certain fondness for Walch Publishing. Whenever I have a quirky homeschool need to fill, they seem to have the right product. My kids dislike worksheets intensely but the Walch books seem to be the exception. Swimmer Dude and I were thinking of adding Introduction to Biotechnology and Forensics from the Hands-On Science Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg_puppy Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Please, please post a review!!! Krista I agree I would like to see a review of ClassiQuest Biology for Logic Stage. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany in Texas Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I have sent a request to the representative to give me a table of contents for the videos and for information if they are different from free videos online. Click Here for Link http://www.cpo.com/home/CPOProducts/TeachingLearningSystemsTLS/MiddleSchoolLifeScience/tabid/240/Default.aspx 592-3520 Interactive DVD $99.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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