Would you expect a 7th grader to know that Santa isn't real?

[Perry]

The point is WHO CARES, who or what does it hurt for these kids to still believe a little later than some? Implying that they must have something wrong with them, or be sheltered, have mental issues...what is that about? Seriously, what is the harm? Show me some stats that these kids will be permanently scarred for life lol because they the believed a little longer than some.

 

Middle school can be an ugly place. I would NOT want to take a chance that my middle schooler would be ridiculed and tormented by other 7th graders for believing in Santa. If the kid isn't around other 13 year olds, it might not be an issue. Otherwise, look out.

 

Maybe girls are better. But boys would eat him alive.

[Ester Maria]

see, now that was the avenue I was going to argue from. shoot, you took away all my fun :D

:D

 

A nice bubble you have there, though. ;) I like it, it sounds poetic.

[Sun]

I still don't think the real issue here is whether or not the child believes in Santa, or even whether the parents are right or wrong to allow or encourage him believe.

 

To me the issue is that the expectation that a pastor teaching a confirmation class not make a connection between a historical religious figure and the legend that grew up around him is an unreasonable expectation. His intention wasn't to crush belief in Santa or to reveal the "truth."

 

A simple, "Many people don't believe Santa is real. What do you think, dear child?" from the parents to the child would have gone a lot further to lessen the blow than an indignant phone call to the pastor.

 

Cat

 

:iagree:

 

I think what Cat said bears repeating.

[Sophia]

The point is WHO CARES, who or what does it hurt for these kids to still believe a little later than some? Implying that they must have something wrong with them, or be sheltered, have mental issues...what is that about? Seriously, what is the harm? Show me some stats that these kids will be permanently scarred for life lol because they believed a little longer than some.

 

Oh, ok.:D

Well, in this case, I think the OP's husband cares that he was reprimanded by a parent for sharing information that was age appropriate for his students because said parent wanted to perpetuate a legend.

 

My response was to the comparison that you made.

[Murphy101]

I don't think a kid will necessarily be scarred by perpetuating the fantasy beyond normal childhood development. (and I stand by the notion that there no normal way a 7th grader has not previously questioned Santa and been told he didn't exist)

 

I also don't understand this rather modern ideology over the supposed magic of childhood to the point that parents actively try to extend it.

 

I love my kids and there's many things I love and think sweet about their youthfulness. Bu it isn't some elusive magic I want to hang onto at the expense of seeing the what I feel is the greater magic of them growing into the mature young men and women I hope to raise.

[Lawana]

The bright child can figure out that while something might not be literally real, it pleases (almost) everyone to go along with a magical, poetic, generous truth.

Oh, I did not take any of the postings personally. I was only posting how my daughter still enjoys the thought of Santa and is a mature girl who is very intelligent in reasoning and logic. :)

It also helps that she is the oldest I guess but we all enjoy the thought of Santa together.

[Mom0012]

Holy smokes :confused: I'm thinking you need a :chillpill:

 

:iagree: Thank you!

 

Lisa

[Miss Sherry]

Middle school can be an ugly place. I would NOT want to take a chance that my middle schooler would be ridiculed and tormented by other 7th graders for believing in Santa. If the kid isn't around other 13 year olds, it might not be an issue. Otherwise, look out.

 

Maybe girls are better. But boys would eat him alive.

:iagree: It's not right, but it's so true. One more reason to homeschool.

[justamouse]

:D

 

A nice bubble you have there, though. ;) I like it, it sounds poetic.

 

and the wine keeps it shiny. :D It also helps me tolerate the gnomes getting footprints all over the windows.

[Miss Sherry]

Holy smokes :confused: I'm thinking you need a :chillpill:

Here's right back at you :chillpill::chillpill:

It certainly IS reasonable to think that almost ALL 12 or 13 year old's have plenty of critical thinking skills to ALREADY know that Santa is not real. It's kind of silly not to recognize that. It was a little out of line for the lady in the OP's original post to get onto her dh for teaching history regarding the "real" santa to the 7th graders. But I guess we can't reason with everyone. :tongue_smilie:

[Deeke]

Middle school can be an ugly place. I would NOT want to take a chance that my middle schooler would be ridiculed and tormented by other 7th graders for believing in Santa. If the kid isn't around other 13 year olds, it might not be an issue. Otherwise, look out.

 

Maybe girls are better. But boys would eat him alive.

 

Oh I agree, and girls would probably eat each other alive if they could lol. We homeschool, my kids hang with homeschoolers and school kiddos...not an issue. I know if our circle, kids believe until they just don't believe. Never once in my 11 years homeschooling has this been an issue lol, even discussed. We just seem to all respect each other and remember some may still believe. I have 5 kids, the older three(25,23,21 now) all believed until about 10-12 also...and at that time they were all in school. I told them to believe what THEY wanted to believe if they came home asking. It's not like they were running around getting pics with Santa still lol, by that age the"knew" but maybe still WANTED to believe. Guess what...they have no issues now because of it, they managed to go to university, get degrees, become officer-cadets in the Air Force. We didn't ruin their lives because we perpetuated the MYTH of Santa, so not too worried about my younger kiddos. :lol:

[justamouse]

Here's right back at you :chillpill::chillpill:

It certainly IS reasonable to think that almost ALL 12 or 13 year old's have plenty of critical thinking skills to ALREADY know that Santa is not real. It's kind of silly not to recognize that. It was a little out of line for the lady in the OP's original post to get onto her dh for teaching history regarding the "real" santa to the 7th graders. But I guess we can't reason with everyone. :tongue_smilie:

 

lemondrop shots? I bet you'd like them...

[Tidbits of Learning]

The bright child can figure out that while something might not be literally real, it pleases (almost) everyone to go along with a magical, poetic, generous truth.

 

Is this the magical, poetic, generous truth that lands most American families into a ton of credit card debt and over spending at the holidays? Because to me it is a marketing dream to encourage Santa to keep coming and that Santa can bring anything b/c you have been a good boy/girl and it won't hurt Mommy and Daddy's pocketbook b/c Santa is at the North Pole with elves making all the gifts and no one has to pay for them.

Honestly, Santa Claus has grown to the gigantic symbol of Christmas and tradition b/c we as consumers have let him. There is no magic in pretending to my child that a jolly, fat man lives on the North Pole and brings gifts once a year in a sleigh.

I think if a child is old enough that you would be honest with them and say Mommy and Daddy can't afford such and such an item, then they are old enough to be told that Santa Claus is a myth. A 7th grader is definitely old enough for that lesson.

I refused last year to put the laptop that I stayed up 7 hours in line at a Walmart with crazy people as a gift from Santa Claus. I still have 3 believers and 1 "believer". I don't know about anyone else, but I feel jipped by Santa Claus. My dh and I work hard all year for the kids and budget and save to get the kids things they really want....I don't want to give all that credit to a made up guy who looks good in a red suit.

I know that I appreciated my gifts and was less let down if I didn't get something I really wanted but knew was out of my parent's reach after I knew that it was my hardworking Dad (working 7 days a week) and my penny-pinching Mom (buying sales so they could put me and my lil' sis through private school) that really worked hard and bought all those things b/c they loved me.

[Ester Maria]

and the wine keeps it shiny. :D It also helps me tolerate the gnomes getting footprints all over the windows.

Aaaah, that's the keyword! :D LOL, I actually wish I could have a glass of wine now.

[justamouse]

I see a lot of coal in people's futures :glare:.

 

But Santa brings me wine and chocolates so I'll share if you ask nice. And no, Santa doesn't have a credit card or go into debt, which is why all those elves have such great vacation packages.

[justamouse]

Aaaah, that's the keyword! :D LOL, I actually wish I could have a glass of wine now.

 

come on over and sit next to me, I have some great brie to go with. The attic mice had a party last week and they made sure to save me some. Of course I don't know if they pilfered it from the neighbors or not, but I figure it's better to not look a gift horse in the mouth.

[Lawana]

Is this the magical, poetic, generous truth that lands most American families into a ton of credit card debt and over spending at the holidays?

No, actually it is the idea that there is someone who would gift you with something you otherwise would not have. I'm sorry you are jaded about the whole comercializiation of Christmas. It can get out of control. What I was getting at was that there can be something magical in Christmas, and something poetical about someone who brings a gift, for whom you do the small favor of leaving a cookie and milk. It doesn't have to be about comercialism, although too often it is. For those who expect nothing, something is given. For those who expect everything, nothing is enough. Life in microcosm.

[Matryoshka]

I still have 3 believers and 1 "believer". I don't know about anyone else, but I feel jipped by Santa Claus. My dh and I work hard all year for the kids and budget and save to get the kids things they really want....I don't want to give all that credit to a made up guy who looks good in a red suit.

 

Hey, Santa can't fit more than one (reasonable) gift per kid and some stocking stuff in his sleigh. The rest comes from us. :D And Santa doesn't have an electronics factory, although he does appear to have access to Playmobil. ;)

 

Actually, my older kids (yes, 7th grade) know Santa isn't real, but they still get the one Santa gift. Just because the kids know Santa isn't real doesn't mean you lose the magic, they're just in on it now. They still enjoy watching NORAD Santa. :tongue_smilie:

 

I would also find it odd for a kid that age to really still believe (as opposed to going along with the fun). My kids started pestering me for the "truth" years ago - I never wanted them to feel I lied, but I didn't want to pour water on it either, so I was annoying and would ask "what do you think?" - as they got older, perhaps accompanied with a wink and a smile.

 

And I don't get how this kid's been so damaged. St. Nicholas was a real guy. He's got his own holiday, for Pete's sake. I've often wondered how they keep it straight in Germany where they've always celebrated St. Nicholas Day on the 6th, but now seem to have thrown over the traditional idea of the Christ Child bringing the gifts for the Santa-esque "Weihnachtsmann" (Christmas Man. Really.) So, St. Nick comes on the 6th with a horse, thin and wearing a bishop's robe, and then goes north, gets fat, and comes back in a red suit for more on the 24th?

 

Anyway, I'm vehemently opposed to this widespread notion that Santa has unlimited resources for any whim or the current fad toy, or whatever the kid happens to have been convinced they need by manipulative advertising. That is indeed a marketing ploy aimed encouraging unbridled consumerism and parental guilt if they don't buy into it. Nope, not buying that here.

Edited November 4, 2010 by matroyshka

[Tidbits of Learning]

I know this thread has gotten into different debates about the maturity and logic and the age group, but honestly in the not too distant past children took on responsibility a lot earlier and were considered young adults by the teen years. I find it sad that more parents aren't raising young adults and instead are feeding fantasies longer than they should.

I think the child isn't to blame in this situation for being blindsided and having her bubble burst, but the parent is and is hurting the child more by calling and reprimanding an adult for not continuing the farce in the extent that there was a St. Nicholas and it is part of studies. He was teaching a class. If the child was old enough for the class, then the parent should have realized it would come up and been prepared.

[justamouse]

I know this thread has gotten into different debates about the maturity and logic and the age group, but honestly in the not too distant past children took on responsibility a lot earlier and were considered young adults by the teen years.

 

 

 

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for

authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place

of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their

households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They

contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties

at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

 

ATTRIBUTION: Attributed to SOCRATES by Plato, according to William L.

Patty and Louise S. Johnson, Personality and Adjustment, p. 277

(1953)."

[Miss Sherry]

I know this thread has gotten into different debates about the maturity and logic and the age group, but honestly in the not too distant past children took on responsibility a lot earlier and were considered young adults by the teen years. I find it sad that more parents aren't raising young adults and instead are feeding fantasies longer than they should.

I think the child isn't to blame in this situation for being blindsided and having her bubble burst, but the parent is and is hurting the child more by calling and reprimanding an adult for not continuing the farce in the extent that there was a St. Nicholas and it is part of studies. He was teaching a class. If the child was old enough for the class, then the parent should have realized it would come up and been prepared.

:iagree: It's so refreshing to read something with common sense. :001_smile:

[Sophia]

:iagree: It's so refreshing to read something with common sense. :001_smile:

 

:iagree:

 

I think it's because she's so openminded ;):D

[Miss Sherry]

:iagree:

 

I think it's because she's so openminded ;):D

:iagree: That could be :lol:

[Miss Sherry]

lemondrop shots? I bet you'd like them...

Why thank you. YOU are so sweet to offer. But I know I don't need them at all, thank you.

But you are certainly welcome to lemondrop shots if that's something you are into. Sounds a little too "different" for me. I'm SURE you'd like them and have a need for them . Have at it, friend.

[Sebastian (a lady)]

It sounds like what your dh said was quite appropriate given the setting. I might have tread more carefully in a class with 3rd graders, but I would assume that the point of a Christian confirmation class is to prepare the students for assume a more mature role as a member of the congregation. Learning the real background of a figure that has assumed mythological proportions seems fine.

[Miss Sherry]

It sounds like what your dh said was quite appropriate given the setting. I might have tread more carefully in a class with 3rd graders, but I would assume that the point of a Christian confirmation class is to prepare the students for assume a more mature role as a member of the congregation. Learning the real background of a figure that has assumed mythological proportions seems fine.

"Learning the real background of a figure that has assumed mythological proportions seems fine." :iagree:You would think so. The problem seems to be that some people are just not reasonable and for that reason it is impossible to please everyone. :lol:

[annandatje]

From the outset, our personal choice was to not mislead our children about existence of Santa Klaus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and other imaginary entities, but the truth never distracted from the joy and celebration of special times that included making a pretend game of the myths.

 

We wanted to err on side of caution since a thinking child would inevitably and justfiably question the logistical impossibilities and the suspension of natural law: how a single man could circle the planet in one day to deliver gifts to all children, how a sleigh and reindeer could fly, how the man could return to North Pole to repeatedly refill an emptied sleigh. Further, they would ponder why Santa has so many mall impostors, why advertisers suggest gifts when Santa already knows what kids desire, why many people do not celebrate Christimas with or without Santa, and so on.

 

When the Santa topic arises, people are under no obligation to bolster folk tales up as fact because others choose that path. The parents referred to in the original post could reasonably expect a discussion of Saint Nicolaus's relationship to the Santa legend in a religious ed program.

 

I doubt that younger children or even some older children can distinguish between a concrete belief in a corporeal Santa and a metaphysical approach to magical spirit of Santa concept. Hence, our motto was when in doubt, the truth wins out.

 

If a 7th grader maintained a belief in a literal physical Santa, I would be concerned about his naivete.

[angela in ohio]

Actually - we can't.

 

God is, philosophically, a LOT more complex issue than Santa (and I'm saying this as an atheist). For Santa, just go to the link in my previous post - all of the knowledges contained in that article are within reach and experience even of a child younger than 12-13 old, and even a younger child should be able to reason that way (perhaps not so clearly or so precisely, but their reasoning should go along those lines, given all they know about the world, science and cultures of the world).

 

But God, God is a tough cookie. Invisible, in fact, not even corporeal (a mind that's not generated by a body! - it takes a HIGH level of sophistication of thought to understand the concept in the first place, and perhaps not every 7th grader is ready for that yet); not a subject to human laws, in fact, all human laws are derived from his arbitrary decisions; all of our moral and aesthetical perceptions are shaped by his nature (what we perceive as good, etc.), and so forth. God is a lot tougher to philosophically disprove than Santa, if we're not talking about "popular religion" (an old guy with a beard in the sky). I wouldn't expect that level of sophistication of an average 7th grader yet.

And while you can even claim Santa a miralce - a temporary suspension of physical laws which occurs once yearly - it's still totally unsupported by any religious text that I know of :tongue_smilie:, which is why a whole lot of religious people don't "do" Santa the way to trick the kids into thinking Santa actually exists.

 

It's not comparable. God, outside of the meaning of the word in "popular religon", is a completely different concept, on a completely different sophisication level, than Santa is.

 

Thank you, Ester Maria.

[angela in ohio]

I still don't think the real issue here is whether or not the child believes in Santa, or even whether the parents are right or wrong to allow or encourage him believe.

 

To me the issue is that the expectation that a pastor teaching a confirmation class not make a connection between a historical religious figure and the legend that grew up around him is an unreasonable expectation. His intention wasn't to crush belief in Santa or to reveal the "truth."

 

A simple, "Many people don't believe Santa is real. What do you think, dear child?" from the parents to the child would have gone a lot further to lessen the blow than an indignant phone call to the pastor.

 

Cat

 

Exactly.

 

Maybe someone else has mentioned this already, too, but isn't the point of a confirmation class that the child is assuming their adult role in the church. I'm not sure a child who believes in Santa is there yet. (I know it is generally based on age, rather than maturity, but still...)

[Wheres Toto]

I don't think the dh in the initial post was out of line at all but I would also not be surprised at a 13 year old still believing in Santa Claus nor would I have doubts about his mental capacity, emotional maturity or logical thinking skills.

 

What would be your opinion of the critical thinking skills of an ADULT who believes:

 

That aliens are watching over us and will someday return to bring us the next technological advance.

That angels are watching over us and our families.

That we were all created from primordial ooze over billions of year through completely random chance.

That we were created in 6 days by a supernatural being and all evidence to the contrary was placed by a different supernatural being.

That there are spirits of the earth and nature that strive to bring balance and harmony to the world.

That there was a flood that covered the entire world and only spared one family.

That at one time there was only one continent on the Earth which gradually spread apart.

That there are still dinosaurs living in a Land of the Lost-type valley in darkest

Africa and all evidence of them is being suppressed by the Powers that Be (and Google Earth).

 

I've met intelligent, educated adults who believe each one of the above. Whether they are thought insane or brilliant seems to have more to do with number of believers than "proof".

[Tress]

I've often wondered how they keep it straight in Germany where they've always celebrated St. Nicholas Day on the 6th, but now seem to have thrown over the traditional idea of the Christ Child bringing the gifts for the Santa-esque "Weihnachtsmann" (Christmas Man. Really.) So, St. Nick comes on the 6th with a horse, thin and wearing a bishop's robe, and then goes north, gets fat, and comes back in a red suit for more on the 24th?

 

 

We are Dutch and we celebrate Sinterklaas (St. Nicholas). My children know that American children believe in Santa Claus and that Santa Claus is not real. They find this very obvious, I mean....a big fat man with a flying sled who lives on the Northpole and brings presents......come on :D. But Sinterklaas, who lives in Spain and distributes the presents by riding his horse on the roof of our house, he is definitely REAL. No doubt about that.

 

Children, logic :lol:.

[shanvan]

I know this thread has gotten into different debates about the maturity and logic and the age group, but honestly in the not too distant past children took on responsibility a lot earlier and were considered young adults by the teen years. I find it sad that more parents aren't raising young adults and instead are feeding fantasies longer than they should.

I think the child isn't to blame in this situation for being blindsided and having her bubble burst, but the parent is and is hurting the child more by calling and reprimanding an adult for not continuing the farce in the extent that there was a St. Nicholas and it is part of studies. He was teaching a class. If the child was old enough for the class, then the parent should have realized it would come up and been prepared.

 

:iagree:My children (who have never believed in Santa Claus) and I witnessed my SIL going to great lengths to lie to her 13 year old son who was questioning the existence of SC. She even implied there might not be presents if Santa thought he didn't believe. I think she wanted to hold onto his childhood a little longer. My DC were told never to interfere with others beliefs in SC, so they kept quiet, but they did not understand why she had to lie to him. It was obvious that he was looking for guidance from his mother, and I felt that she let him down.

 

Shannon

[Laura Corin]

Hey, Santa can't fit more than one (reasonable) gift per kid and some stocking stuff in his sleigh.

 

He can fit in an orange, some chocolate coins, a paperback book and a small toy. Anything else comes from named, corporeal beings.

 

Laura

[Littlemother]

I would think that they would know by now.

 

Littlemother

[vettechmomof2]

No, actually it is the idea that there is someone who would gift you with something you otherwise would not have. I'm sorry you are jaded about the whole comercializiation of Christmas. It can get out of control. What I was getting at was that there can be something magical in Christmas, and something poetical about someone who brings a gift, for whom you do the small favor of leaving a cookie and milk. It doesn't have to be about comercialism, although too often it is. For those who expect nothing, something is given. For those who expect everything, nothing is enough. Life in microcosm.

 

We actually leave chicken soup(homemade) and carrots. We figure he needs something warm by the time he gets to us.;)

[LaissezFaire]

Personally if the child is still believing in Santa in 7th grade it's time for the parents to sit down and have a chat with said child. That's my opinion anyway. It's perfectly fine to enjoy the fantasy at that age as long as he/she knows that it's make believe.

[amey311]

Dh just got a call from a parent of a student in his 7th grade confirmation class who was upset that he had referred to Santa as a legend in class. (snip) When he said as much to the parent, the response was that their dd preferred to hold on to childhood things still. Which is all well and good - but does that mean that she really had *no clue* that Santa is a legend, that dh burst her bubble?

 

My thoughts (and I haven't read ALL the replies yet) is that if this child is still holding on to childhood things enough that describing Santa as a legend upset her enough for her parents to call the pastor, then maybe this child isn't ready for confirmation classes.

 

It seems to me that the reason this class is held at 7th grade (or older) is because some higher level thinking skills are possessed by the children, and they're making a thoughtful decision to learn about and join the church. If you're still hanging on to Santa, then maybe you're not quite ready for confirmation.

 

That's not a punishment thing - that's an examination of the thought process and thinking levels of the students involved. Not everyone is ready at 7th grade to make semi-adult decisions: they can't all be left home alone, they can't all be trusted to use the stove, etc.

 

Also: I agree with a poster who said that it's not the job of a pastor (responsible for the religious education of the children) to perpetuate a myth.

 

When I was a kid, if Christmas happened to fall on a Sunday morning we went to church (our church did a Christmas Eve service regardless of the day, but not a CHristmas Day service unless it was a Sunday). I can remember the minister asking kids what Santa had brought for them during the little Children's Story part of the service. But this was meant for elementary school children. That I didn't see exactly as perpetuating the myth, I guess, but meeting kids where they were and knowing that's some of what they'd want to talk about. He may not have asked specifically about Santa (it may have been "so - did you get nice presents this morning?" or something), but we were United Methodists who I've found can be laid back about some things. :)

[mirth]

/

[saja1029]

Funny, I never really thought about "when" my children should "know" that Santa was not real. My oldest is almost 12 and still believes. He has questioned it many times....how does Santa do this, that, etc. but shrugs it off that Santa is magical. Isn't that what it's all about - how Santa is magical and do things that your everyday Joe can't?

 

Now, if my kids were in PS, I would have no doubt that he would know by now :(

 

As far as the comments about the child being special needs, out of touch, etc. - WOW - some of you can be cruel.

 

This thread is almost as bad as the one about Halloween....stopping trick or treating when the kid was 11 or something...because they thought they were too old, when it was basically because the parent couldn't be bothered anymore. Sounds like this situation.

[Deeke]

As far as the comments about the child being special needs, out of touch, etc. - WOW - some of you can be cruel.

 

This thread is almost as bad as the one about Halloween....stopping trick or treating when the kid was 11 or something...because they thought they were too old, when it was basically because the parent couldn't be bothered anymore. Sounds like this situation.

 

I do think sure, the parent may not have handled the situation well with how it played out, but just handle it and use it as a learning experience. What bothers me is how many people here are exactly what you say, cruel! That any kid out of the "norm" must have some issue, or not be able to think logically. Halloween we are guilty of still enjoying also, my 10 and 13 year old still go out and have great fun, Easter too...still collecting those eggs lol.

[amey311]

Halloween we are guilty of still enjoying also, my 10 and 13 year old still go out and have great fun, Easter too...still collecting those eggs lol.

 

I think enjoying the egg collecting is different from thinking that the Easter bunny is real. You can be an adult and enjoy all the pomp and circumstance of Easter and not think that some magical rabbit is delivering baskets full of jelly beans and fake grass to all the children in town. The two (belief and enjoyment) don't have to go hand in hand.

 

Believing in the SPIRIT or MAGIC or whatever other IDEA of the holiday is different from believing in an actual living person/animal who can somehow carry and deliver loads of stuff in a small period of time.

 

And honestly - if you're going to say that it's okay that believing in the MAGIC of Santa is okay, then other kinds of magic should be okay too.

[justamouse]

Ohh hey! This thread is still going and I still have booze.

[thescrappyhomeschooler]

Ohh hey! This thread is still going and I still have booze.

 

:lol:

[keptwoman]

We actually leave chicken soup(homemade) and carrots. We figure he needs something warm by the time he gets to us.;)

 

At our house he gets beer, by the time he finishes his Aussie run, he is probably well and truely hammered :rofl:

[MissKNG]

I think it's not my responsibility to perpetuate someone else's lies.

 

Yes, I'm cranky today.

 

 

:iagree: and I'm not cranky!!

[Pretty in Pink]

At our house he gets beer, by the time he finishes his Aussie run, he is probably well and truely hammered :rofl:

 

LOLOLOL!

[Murphy101]

At our house he gets beer, by the time he finishes his Aussie run, he is probably well and truely hammered :rofl:

 

Here too! Home brew at that.:D

[saja1029]

I think enjoying the egg collecting is different from thinking that the Easter bunny is real. You can be an adult and enjoy all the pomp and circumstance of Easter and not think that some magical rabbit is delivering baskets full of jelly beans and fake grass to all the children in town. The two (belief and enjoyment) don't have to go hand in hand.

 

Believing in the SPIRIT or MAGIC or whatever other IDEA of the holiday is different from believing in an actual living person/animal who can somehow carry and deliver loads of stuff in a small period of time.

 

And honestly - if you're going to say that it's okay that believing in the MAGIC of Santa is okay, then other kinds of magic should be okay too.

 

Yeah, but who's the one who leaves the eggs....the Easter bunny!

 

What other kind of magic are you talking about?? Not being snarky, just wondering ;)

[saja1029]

Ohh hey! This thread is still going and I still have booze.

 

 

Pass some off this way...after reading 15 pages I need it:)

[nd293]

I would definitely expect a child that age to know. When age appropriate information (as in your dh's class) needs to be censored to hold onto fantasy, I think it's time to let go of fantasy.

 

Dd10 has never been told Santa is real. As she started to realise what the whole Santa deal was about (more gifts!) she "believed" but it is about fun and fantasy, not faith. Faith should be reserved for more serious matters.

 

Nikki