aggieamy Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 *blink*I think Diva should win the Nobel Science Prize. Ya know, for her potential. LOL. Yeah. Next year I'm nominating my girls! They got tons of potential too. You should see the interest they show in horses, which are animals, which is part of biology. Definite link. And how cool would that be for my scrapbook if one of kids gets the NPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariannNOVA Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 A line from the citation says, "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future." Mary As Lucy van Pelt says in "Charlie Brown Christmas": 'Oh, yeah, has he ever had his picture on a bubble gum card?' :lol: And, I do not undersand him receiving the award and it is frankly somewhat disturbing. And, I also cannot wait to see how long this thread stays alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Exactly what has he done to earn this? I'm truly not being snarky. He's been in office less than a year and I've not personally seen any significant contribution to world peace occur in that time. So, I'm curious how he earned this award. Again, not dogging on him, just truly curious (and, tbh, a bit bewildered). :iagree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 . However, I can see how the committee chose him, maybe living outside the US I can see a different perspective.. I think this is the key. The rest of the world, looking on the US, has been very troubled in the past decade. I think this has everything with a huge sigh of relief as an era of unilateralism drew to a close. Remember that in the past decade, polls abroad consistently showed that people outside the US thought the US was the biggest danger to global peace and security. Right or wrong, that was the people's perception of your nation. I think many Americans still don't quite realize that. I don't think he would have been my first choice but I don't think it's that bizzarre either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrellyMama Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 And, I also cannot wait to see how long this thread stays alive. I think it is going well. A good mix of pro Obama people and not so pro Obama people saying the same things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erica in PA Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 For actual accomplishments. Inspiring hope and global respectability is subjective. :iagree: Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoSylvia Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 As Lucy van Pelt says in "Charlie Brown Christmas": 'Oh, yeah, has he ever had his picture on a bubble gum card?' :lol: ..."Hmmm? How can you say someone is great who's never had his picture on bubblegum cards" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariannNOVA Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 ..."Hmmm? How can you say someone is great who's never had his picture on bubblegum cards" I thought that was how it went, but I didn't trust my memory --- THANKS AGAIN! (I also did not want to purchase the script on Amazon.com -- by the time it got here........):001_smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) I think this is the key. The rest of the world, looking on the US, has been very troubled in the past decade. I think this has everything with a huge sigh of relief as an era of unilateralism drew to a close. Remember that in the past decade, polls abroad consistently showed that people outside the US thought the US was the biggest danger to global peace and security. Right or wrong, that was the people's perception of your nation. I think many Americans still don't quite realize that. I don't think he would have been my first choice but I don't think it's that bizzarre either. From the nobel prize dot org website. February – Deadline for submission. The Committee bases its assessment on nominations that must be postmarked no later than 1 February each year. Nominations postmarked and received after this date are included in the following year's discussions. In recent years, the Committee has received close to 200 different nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The number of nominating letters is much higher, as many are for the same candidates. He was inagurated on Jan 20 less than 2 weeks before the deadline. (He did enough to be nominated for the prize in less than two weeks? It must have been that "poem" at the inaguration that did it). Alos from the official website. It is given to to "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses" What am I missing? I make no comment on the man, but this seems, well..... I will leave it at that. Edited October 9, 2009 by pqr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Even more than that, I feel like this is a European-centered stab at telling Americans what political views the world wants us to have and approves of. That ticks me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cindie2dds Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Exactly what has he done to earn this? I'm truly not being snarky. He's been in office less than a year and I've not personally seen any significant contribution to world peace occur in that time. So, I'm curious how he earned this award. Again, not dogging on him, just truly curious (and, tbh, a bit bewildered). :iagree: I truly wish there were some shred of peace in the world to earn this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 From the nobel prize dot org website. February – He was inagurated on Jan 20 less than 2 weeks before the deadline. (He did enough to be nominated for the prize in less than two weeks? It must have been that "poem" at the inaguration that did it). Wow, that must have been the most incredibly productive two weeks in office this nation has ever seen. Janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Wow, that must have been the most incredibly productive two weeks in office this nation has ever seen. Janet Maybe we are misunderstanding this. Maybe it's not for what he has done as president, but for what he did before that, in organizing, etc. Or maybe it is just because he has become the first African-American president of the USA, pulling the country together around a minority candidacy for the first time--this may look bigger and more significant outside of the US than inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 What am I missing? I make no comment on the man, but this seems, well..... I will leave it at that. Well I think the nomination would have to have been all about the campaign. Change, change, change and all that. And to be nominated I don't think he'd have to had done tons yet - it's just a matter of getting the name on the list. Wouldn't the actual selection committee be able to consider things throughout this spring and summer & not just those 2 weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Even more than that, I feel like this is a European-centered stab at telling Americans what political views the world wants us to have and approves of. That ticks me off. Oh, the sweet irony of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I think you're on the right track. Maybe we are misunderstanding this. Maybe it's not for what he has done as president, but for what he did before that, in organizing, etc. Or maybe it is just because he has become the first African-American president of the USA, pulling the country together around a minority candidacy for the first time--this may look bigger and more significant outside of the US than inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) I think this is the key. The rest of the world, looking on the US, has been very troubled in the past decade. I think this has everything with a huge sigh of relief as an era of unilateralism drew to a close. Remember that in the past decade, polls abroad consistently showed that people outside the US thought the US was the biggest danger to global peace and security. Right or wrong, that was the people's perception of your nation. I think many Americans still don't quite realize that. I don't think he would have been my first choice but I don't think it's that bizzarre either. Exactly the point. Mr Obama has accomplished something. Something quite extraordinary in fact. In a very short time he has undone a great deal of the damage done to this nations standing and reputation in the world. Not just damage in the Islamic world, but healed deep ruptures with nations that have been our closest allies. Throughout the world we had former friends questioning what kind of nation the United States had become. To have repaired so much damage to these relations so quickly is rather astounding. People living here in the United States may not see, or want to see, just how tarnished a reputation we held just a year ago, and how differently America is seen today. The wounds that have been mended are hard to over-estimate, and is a great accomplishment. Turning hatred and anger into hope is peace-making in my estimation. The whole world sees this, feels this, and once again has a sense that the United States really is a beacon of hope in the world. I'm saddened that this community has (in large part) chosen to root against our Olympic bids, and against our President. But today, I'm proud of him, and proud to be an American. Bill Edited October 9, 2009 by Spy Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertDweller Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Have you forgotten about the "beer summit" he hosted at the White House? :cheers2: OMG, that must be it! (tongue planted firmly in cheek) Gee, hubby and I need to invite the snarky neighbors that live over on the corner to our house for a beer. Maybe we can get a community award for reaching out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanestMomInMidwest Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I think it is going well. A good mix of pro Obama people and not so pro Obama people saying the same things. :iagree: Yes, everything does go well here as long as nobody voices a dissenting opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erica in PA Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Even more than that, I feel like this is a European-centered stab at telling Americans what political views the world wants us to have and approves of. That ticks me off. :iagree: Yes!!! Thank for articulating this thought. I knew there was something that was bothering me about this, beyond the obvious. I agree with you about this. I feel like they are saying, "Yes, America, you have finally made the right choice in the election of your president. *He* has the views that your president should have. We approve." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erica in PA Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Oh, the sweet irony of this! What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Maybe we are misunderstanding this. Maybe it's not for what he has done as president, but for what he did before that, in organizing, etc. Or maybe it is just because he has become the first African-American president of the USA, pulling the country together around a minority candidacy for the first time--this may look bigger and more significant outside of the US than inside. This doesn't seem to be what the Nobel Peace Prize is to be awarded for, though. As for what he did before, was there anything that: "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses" I copied that from PQR's post. Before I write anymore, I will go do some research. Give him some more time is what I would say right now. Janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well I think the nomination would have to have been all about the campaign. Change, change, change and all that. And to be nominated I don't think he'd have to had done tons yet - it's just a matter of getting the name on the list. Wouldn't the actual selection committee be able to consider things throughout this spring and summer & not just those 2 weeks? Nobel Peace Prize nomination for a few speeches? And in the following months what, in order to fullfil the requirements of the prize, justifies his being "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca VA Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I was just on Rush Limbaugh's site, and there is already an article posted there from an e-mail interview he did this morning. He writes (in part): "...With this award the elites of the world are urging Obama, THE MAN OF PEACE, not to do the surge in Afghanistan, not to take action against Iran and its nuclear program and to basically continue his intentions to emasculate the United States. They love a weakened, neutered U.S., and this is their way of promoting that concept." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I was wondering what the nationality was of the committee that chooses the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize? Janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcjlkplus3 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I was wondering what the nationality was of the committee that chooses the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize? Janet good question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbie in OR Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 In a very short time he has undone a great deal of the damage done to this nations standing and reputation in the world. Not just damage in the Islamic world, but healed deep ruptures with nations that have been our closest allies. Throughout the world we had former friends questioning what kind of nation the United States had become. Hmmm...have you read any of the op-eds from the London and Russian papers the past several months? Your assessment doesn't line up with what I'm reading there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidre in GA Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I think this is the key. The rest of the world, looking on the US, has been very troubled in the past decade. I think this has everything with a huge sigh of relief as an era of unilateralism drew to a close. Remember that in the past decade, polls abroad consistently showed that people outside the US thought the US was the biggest danger to global peace and security. Right or wrong, that was the people's perception of your nation. I think many Americans still don't quite realize that. I don't think he would have been my first choice but I don't think it's that bizzarre either. i agree. Obama's presidency has already had an enormous effect on the global political climate. with the prize, the Committee is affirming the importance of the US and the necessity that we lead well. that being said, i was surprised and it sets Obama with a lot to live up too. a scene from Saving Private Ryan keeps popping into my head: the Tom Hanks character, having sacrificed all, looks up at Private Ryan and whispers "Earn this." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 with the prize, the Committee is affirming the importance of the US and the necessity that we lead well. ....but that is not what the prize is about or else every US president would win in the year of his inaguration. I ask again; how is he "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I was wondering what the nationality was of the committee that chooses the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize? Janet Here they are: http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/nomination_committee/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommyRyan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Not to be snarky, but Obama has taken little, if any, steps towards peace or nuclear disarmament on a global scale. He has talked a lot about it, but has done just about...nothing. As for our global reputation, many countries outside euro-socialist nations supported American efforts long before Obama. A PP said it best by stating this is Europe's way of giving us their stamp of approval on the election. America has always been far and out the most generous, altruistic nation on this planet. If people didn't like that, so be it. I worked in foreign service before having kids, and was given some very good advice: don't take advice from those rooting against you. ETA: I voted for Bob Barr in the election; liked and disliked a lot about Obama and McCain. But I was not for the War in Iraq from the get-go, am pro-disarmament, etc. which is what puts me off most about touting Obama's lack of efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I worked in foreign service before having kids, and was given some very good advice: don't take advice from those rooting against you. Probably good advice. But if we reflect just a little perhaps we can admit there are a lot of people rooting against our nation these days. And these people call themselves "Americans." Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danybug Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Exactly the point. Mr Obama has accomplished something. Something quite extraordinary in fact. In a very short time he has undone a great deal of the damage done to this nations standing and reputation in the world. Not just damage in the Islamic world, but healed deep ruptures with nations that have been our closest allies. Throughout the world we had former friends questioning what kind of nation the United States had become. To have repaired so much damage to these relations so quickly is rather astounding. People living here in the United States may not see, or want to see, just how tarnished a reputation we held just a year ago, and how differently America is seen today. The wounds that have been mended are hard to over-estimate, and is a great accomplishment. Turning hatred and anger into hope is peace-making in my estimation. The whole world sees this, feels this, and once again has a sense that the United States really is a beacon of hope in the world. I'm saddened that this community has (in large part) chosen to root against our Olympic bids, and against our President. But today, I'm proud of him, and proud to be an American. Bill :iagree: Very well said! I was holding out on voicing my opinion and you beat me to what I would say. I think that we, as Americans, should be proud of Obama! Whether we agree with his political stance or what he did or did not do, he is the President of our country and he deserves respect. Obama has garnered much positive attention and respect for us throughout the World and on top of that, broke barriers that some thought would never be broken in our own country. Others could definitely perceive a lot about Obama as bringing hope and peace to the World, whether or not it is truly tangible at this time. We can only hope and pray that we will further witness various remarkable results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 It's crazy! He didn't do a thing to be qualified for the office, Hilary said it best, "He wrote a speech." As President he hasn't accomplished a single thing in his first year at home let alone had any global effect. Unless trashing (along with Bush's help) the US dollar on the world stage counts as peace I can't see what he has done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I am absolutely not proud that he won the award. I am embarrassed and disturbed. But not really shocked. Even though I didn't vote for either Clinton or Obama, I would have not been disturbed if he won since he has done things. I also would not be embarassed or disturbed if Obama won in four or five years if he actually accomplished something. But he didn't do anything to bring about peace in the first 10 or 12 days of his presidency. We are a sad world if now we are reqrding potential rather than accomplishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheBrink Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 But he didn't do anything to bring about peace in the first 10 or 12 days of his presidency. We are a sad world if now we are reqrding potential rather than accomplishments. :iagree::iagree: Let's hand out doctorate degrees to kindergarteners, because they have hope and potential of becoming doctors. It's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) I'm proud of our president! He has inspired hope in so many people and brought the US back to a position of global respectability. What the hell do people think the Nobel Peace Prize is for, anyway? It is held in contempt by some conservatives as another type of one world order-the gospel of La Haye... Edited October 9, 2009 by elizabeth mispelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I think this is the key. The rest of the world, looking on the US, has been very troubled in the past decade. I think this has everything with a huge sigh of relief as an era of unilateralism drew to a close. Remember that in the past decade, polls abroad consistently showed that people outside the US thought the US was the biggest danger to global peace and security. Right or wrong, that was the people's perception of your nation. I think many Americans still don't quite realize that. I don't think he would have been my first choice but I don't think it's that bizzarre either. After talking to many people overseas about this, this is what I have come to realize, too. But for how this honor is being received by some in the states? I have no comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Exactly the point. Mr Obama has accomplished something. Something quite extraordinary in fact. In a very short time he has undone a great deal of the damage done to this nations standing and reputation in the world. Not just damage in the Islamic world, but healed deep ruptures with nations that have been our closest allies. Throughout the world we had former friends questioning what kind of nation the United States had become. To have repaired so much damage to these relations so quickly is rather astounding. People living here in the United States may not see, or want to see, just how tarnished a reputation we held just a year ago, and how differently America is seen today. The wounds that have been mended are hard to over-estimate, and is a great accomplishment. Turning hatred and anger into hope is peace-making in my estimation. The whole world sees this, feels this, and once again has a sense that the United States really is a beacon of hope in the world. I'm saddened that this community has (in large part) chosen to root against our Olympic bids, and against our President. But today, I'm proud of him, and proud to be an American. Bill Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 In the words of the President "I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures that have been honored by this prize," ...seems he is more realistic in his appraisal than many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 oh and I would never root against our Olympic bids! I think it would be great.:patriot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 In the words of the President "I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures that have been honored by this prize," ...seems he is more realistic in his appraisal than many others. There is a virtue called humility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I am a Republican and Rio was my first choice for the Olympics but not because of anything against the President or the US or Chicago. If any other place other than Rio was going to get it, I would want that to be Chicago. I wanted Rio because South America has never had the Olympics there and I thought it was time for them to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyrooch Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I'm proud of our president! He has inspired hope in so many people and brought the US back to a position of global respectability. What the hell do people think the Nobel Peace Prize is for, anyway? :iagree: I find it interesting that our own people disrespect him and bash him but in the eyes of the world America is more respected and thought upon "peacefully" than we have been in a very long time. I would say that how he is respresenting America to the world is something that we Americans should respect and be proud of. The rest of the globe sure the heck is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 People living here in the United States may not see, or want to see, just how tarnished a reputation we held just a year ago, and how differently America is seen today. I think there is a contingent of Americans who greatly enjoy having the rest of the world think not-so-positive things about the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in FL Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 According to the AP article I read about it: President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and stress diplomacy and cooperation rather than unilateralism. That's what has me baffled! Why should a Nobel prize be given to "encourage" anyone? If that's the criteria, I nominate my ds, he could use some encouragement. Melissa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Originally Posted by pqr In the words of the President "I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures that have been honored by this prize," ...seems he is more realistic in his appraisal than many others. There is a virtue called humility. There is also a virtue called honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 That's what has me baffled! Why should a Nobel prize be given to "encourage" anyone? If that's the criteria, I nominate my ds, he could use some encouragement.Melissa Yours and mine both! Heck, let's give it to all homeschooling PARENTS!:D Lord knows my house coudl use some sibling peace some days.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in FL Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Have you forgotten about the "beer summit" he hosted at the White House? :cheers2: That's it!! I was baffled, but now I see the light! It's all about beer summits!!! :party: Melissa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I can respect the office of the Presidency without agreeing with or admiring the President. It is similar to the Catholic priesthood. I have all the respect in the world for it. Individual priests, I don't necessarily agree with. Does that make me a bad Catholic? I don't think so. And I don't think I am a bad American if I don't agree with somethings a president does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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