wuhan - coronavirus

[KSera]

1 hour ago, Melissa in Australia said:

The almost girlfriend of my son has myocarditis from the booster. Her chance of getting ill from covid was greatly reduced by being double vaxed but she was forced to get the booster because of her job, a super athletic fit girl in her prime now ill from the booster. 

If she got myocarditis from the booster, it's not at all unlikely she would have had even worse myocarditis from catching covid. At least the booster form of myocarditis almost always passes quickly with no long term effects (unlike the disease version). I'm sorry she got it though and I hope she is over it very quickly.

[Melissa in Australia]

9 minutes ago, KSera said:

If she got myocarditis from the booster, it's not at all unlikely she would have had even worse myocarditis from catching covid. At least the booster form of myocarditis almost always passes quickly with no long term effects (unlike the disease version). I'm sorry she got it though and I hope she is over it very quickly.

She has been told by a medical expert that it will be at least 6 months for some improvement, and it is not known how many years it will take.

[Ausmumof3]

30 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:

Not in Victoria. All staff at schools, dwelp employees, medical staff, police, emergancy service workers etc had to have the booster last month.no exemptions at all I personally know many people who have had both doses, with bad reactions and who have since had covid that was milder than the reactions to the vax who have lost their jobs because they refused to have the booster. The Vic gov has just given themself an 3 month extension to their emergancy powers. They no longer need to get medical advice to justify this under their new laws they gave themselves. They are decrying the lack of the workforce, but excluding more and more fully vaccinated people from being able to work by their mandate that people have more and more boosters. 

Interesting. I wonder what impact our new gov will have. 

[Lisa]

Here's some good news about a drug being tested. 

An experimental COVID drug was so successful that they’re shutting down trials early

The drug, sabizabulin, halved the mortality rate for patients infected with severe cases of COVID.

https://fortune.com/2022/04/12/experimental-covid-drug-sabizabulin/

[Corraleno]

Drug company Veru announced yesterday that their Phase 3 trial was so successful the regulatory committee recommended ending it early. AFAIK they have not published the data yet, so there are lots of caveats here, including the fact that it is a very small trial of 200 patients spread across 6 countries (which makes me wonder how the placebo group was matched, how different the case rates and care protocols were in different countries, etc.). But apparently this drug has "Fast Track" status with the FDA and Veru says they will be applying for EUA shortly. 

"Sabizabulin treatment resulted in a clinically and statistically meaningful 55% relative reduction in deaths (p=0.0029) in the intent to treat population. Placebo group (n=52) had a 45% mortality rate compared to the sabizabulin-treated group (n=98) which had a 20% mortality rate. The secondary efficacy endpoints are still being analyzed at the time of this release. Sabizabulin treatment was well tolerated in this patient population with no clinically relevant safety observations in the sabizabulin treated group compared to placebo."

 

[Corraleno]

3 minutes ago, Lisa said:

Here's some good news about a drug being tested. 

An experimental COVID drug was so successful that they’re shutting down trials early

The drug, sabizabulin, halved the mortality rate for patients infected with severe cases of COVID.

https://fortune.com/2022/04/12/experimental-covid-drug-sabizabulin/

Just posted the same thing — I hope it's as effective as Veru's press release claims!

[KSera]

41 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:

She has been told by a medical expert that it will be at least 6 months for some improvement, and it is not known how many years it will take.

Oh dear! That is a very highly unusual course and I have not read of that happening to anyone else. I am very sorry to hear that happened to her and hope it improves much quicker than that.

 

eta: for people curious how vaccine-induced myocarditis typically presents, "Vaccine-induced myocarditis has a relatively benign course, with most patients making a full recovery within a week." This is in contrast with covid-induced myocarditis, which has a high rate of ICU care, ventilation and death.

Edited April 13, 2022 by KSera

[Melissa Louise]

15 minutes ago, KSera said:

Oh dear! That is a very highly unusual course and I have not read of that happening to anyone else. I am very sorry to hear that happened to her and hope it improves much quicker than that.

 

eta: for people curious how vaccine-induced myocarditis typically presents, "Vaccine-induced myocarditis has a relatively benign course, with most patients making a full recovery within a week." This is in contrast with covid-induced myocarditis, which has a high rate of ICU care, ventilation and death.

A co-worker's teen son had post vaccine myocarditis; it followed the course you've quoted here. 

[TCB]

3 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said:

I was talking about boosters in this age group, not unvaxed. 

The almost girlfriend of my son has myocarditis from the booster. Her chance of getting ill from covid was greatly reduced by being double vaxed but she was forced to get the booster because of her job, a super athletic fit girl in her prime now ill from the booster. 

 

3 of my adult children have had covid now. The ones with 2 shots had a slight snivel. That was all. the one that had the booster forced on him by his work begenning of last month has it now, and is ill, said feels like a very bad cold with aching bones. He said his whole work currently has covid. Every one of them, all triple vaxed begenning Feb. Forced to by gov mandate. It hasn't stopped people catching covid at all. 

It is crazy how unlucky the people you know who have been vaccinated are. I know loads of people who have had at least 3, some 4, and I do know some who felt unwell for a short while, a few days, but only one, and it was the friend of a friend, so I don’t know many details, who may have had myocarditis. On the other hand I’ve seen many people die from Covid, and I work with a number of people who have long Covid symptoms. It’s amazing how different all our experiences have been. It makes me realize how important unbiased data is.

[TravelingChris]

On 3/14/2022 at 5:44 PM, Melissa Louise said:

Masking is a very low stakes mitigation with minimal effects on freedom or other aspects of health. 

I don't enjoy masking, and I unmask for work that can't take place masked (phonics instruction), so I'm not inflexible about it.  It's just nuts to me that if your health people say 'hey, probably a good time to bring masks back in enclosed spaces', you, the government, say 'nah, doesn't play well in polling.'

We are.t having any increases in our state.  And yes, we are having primary elections next month but for governor, the far and away best ads are for our current governor and has a huge lead too and she was moderate in all her COVID actions.  And considering that I am seeing nonsense ads from her opponents- like urging people to elect them because they will do unconstitional actions.

[Ausmumof3]

Cases here were just below 5000 today. Wednesday is usually the highest day so I think we may have passed our peak. Hopefully dropping masks doesn’t change that. 

[bookbard]

27 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

Cases here were just below 5000 today. Wednesday is usually the highest day so I think we may have passed our peak. Hopefully dropping masks doesn’t change that. 

I think it's hard to say due to Easter coming up. Christmas caused a massive spread due to family parties. It may be Easter will do the same. We were invited to a family party and a friend party, and we've decided to go away partly to avoid both. 

[TravelingChris]

On 4/6/2022 at 3:04 PM, kbutton said:

This kind of thing is one reason I am reluctant to start church shopping. 

I feel like it's been good for me to have a break from politics in church, but the minute I go back to church (even a different one), it's likely to be there. I'm just now getting back to a place where I feel like I can hear sermons and not find things triggering. We're watching a church online that is not local to us, but family attend, so we've been there many times in person. It's SO MUCH better than most churches on these things, but one stray mark like "It's nice to be able to see your faces" after their mask mandate was lifted (very recently), and TBH, I am ready to quit again. I have to tell myself that they've been doing the right thing for more than two years, so they are probably happy to see people's faces.

It didn't have to be this way. Churches could've found ways to maintain a tether to the truth. They opted not to. That's the part that galls me.

I feel like I am learning all over again how to do Christianity without all of this stuff. It's in turns wonderful, awful, comforting, dismaying, and enlightening! 

 

Well is the church in an area with a resurgence?  Because we aren't having one at all and on looking at the map of the country, hardly any areas are.

[Katy]

17 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said:

She has been told by a medical expert that it will be at least 6 months for some improvement, and it is not known how many years it will take.

The 20 year old relative that I know that had myocarditis from the vaccine was 80% better in 6 weeks and 100% better in 3 months.  An anecdote isn't data, but hopefully she'll improve faster than hoped.

[Melissa in Australia]

On 4/13/2022 at 12:06 PM, TCB said:

It is crazy how unlucky the people you know who have been vaccinated are. I know loads of people who have had at least 3, some 4, and I do know some who felt unwell for a short while, a few days, but only one, and it was the friend of a friend, so I don’t know many details, who may have had myocarditis. On the other hand I’ve seen many people die from Covid, and I work with a number of people who have long Covid symptoms. It’s amazing how different all our experiences have been. It makes me realize how important unbiased data is.

I have only posted about things that have happened to very close people who I can confirm exactly what I am saying is true.

I now know a lot off people who have had Covid. All of them vaccinated. As there is hardly anyone in this country unvaccinated. All of them had at the worst like a heavy cold. Some of them, like the speech pathologist that works with my boys spent a week in bed after each of her 3 doses of vax, but when she had Covid it was just a persistent cough.

 

I haven’t even posted about other negative reactions like my oldest having to go to the doctor repeatedly for chest pain, but nothing was found

 

and I never include in my posts the rumours  of bad vax results, like the man who works at the local general store who a few days after his vax complained of bad leg pain, collapsed in the car park of the doctor’s office and died of a blood clot. I cannot verify if that is correct or local gossip.

I get the strong feeling from this forum that people don’t want to believe me, think I am making it up or intentionally or unintentionally minimise everything I say.

Edited April 14, 2022 by Melissa in Australia

[TCB]

2 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said:

I have only posted about things that have happened to very close people who I can confirm exactly what I am saying is true.

I now know a lot off people who have had Covid. All of them vaccinated. As there is hardly anyone in this country unvaccinated. All of them had at the worst like a heavy cold. Some of them, like the speech pathologist that works with my boys spent a week in bed after each of her 3 doses of vax, but when she had Covid it was just a persistent cough.

 

I haven’t even posted about other negative reactions like my oldest having to go to the doctor repeatedly for chest pain, but nothing was found

 

and I never include in my posts the rulers of bad vax results, like the man who works at the local general store who a few days after his vax complained of bad leg pain, collapsed in the car park of the doctor’s office and died of a blood clot. I cannot verify if that is correct or local gossip.

I get the strong feeling from this forum that people don’t want to believe me, think I am making it up or intentionally or unintentionally minimise everything I say.

I wonder if the difference in outcome from Covid in your area is more people being exposed after being vaccinated. I know lots of vaccinated people who have had very mild Covid too. But I live in an area with only about 55% of the population vaccinated so that may be why I’ve seen more bad outcomes from Covid. Fortunately my friends and relatives in the UK and the US have almost all chosen to be vaxed, and amongst all of these there have been no serious or long term vax complications, for which I am very thankful. We have just had very different experiences, but again the countries we live in have had very different experiences and it would be good to learn why.

[Jaybee]

1 hour ago, TCB said:

I wonder if the difference in outcome from Covid in your area is more people being exposed after being vaccinated. I know lots of vaccinated people who have had very mild Covid too. But I live in an area with only about 55% of the population vaccinated so that may be why I’ve seen more bad outcomes from Covid. Fortunately my friends and relatives in the UK and the US have almost all chosen to be vaxed, and amongst all of these there have been no serious or long term vax complications, for which I am very thankful. We have just had very different experiences, but again the countries we live in have had very different experiences and it would be good to learn why.

I wonder if which vaccine was used affects this too.

[Ausmumof3]

https://www.scotsman.com/health/scottish-child-receives-emergency-liver-transplant-in-hepatitis-outbreak-3656793

Hepatitis outbreak in kids in Scotland

Dr Jim McMenamin, head of health protection (infection services) at PHS, said: “Along with colleagues in other parts of the UK, several lines of investigation are ongoing. In a number of cases, adenovirus and SARS-CoV2 have been detected, so these links are currently being investigated.

“Parents should contact their GP or other healthcare professional if they notice signs of jaundice in their child. This can be a yellow tinge in the whites of their eyes or on their skin.

[Ausmumof3]

I did a quick search to see if there was any indication of a plausible covid link and found this

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7470895/

Mild-to moderate liver test abnormalities are becoming a frequent finding in subjects admitted to hospital for COVID-19 infection. Patients with known risk factors for COVID-19 infection presenting with acute hepatitis should be rapidly isolated and tested. In our patient, the abnormalities in liver function tests quickly normalized, in absence of specific therapy. The real meaning of liver tests transient alterations has yet to be determined in COVID-19 infected subjects. With the future evolution of the pandemic, prospective observations could provide further information on this specific clinical issue.

 

 

[Ausmumof3]

and a comment from Norman Swan.

 

[Laura Corin]

3 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:

I did a quick search to see if there was any indication of a plausible covid link and found this

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7470895/

Mild-to moderate liver test abnormalities are becoming a frequent finding in subjects admitted to hospital for COVID-19 infection. Patients with known risk factors for COVID-19 infection presenting with acute hepatitis should be rapidly isolated and tested. In our patient, the abnormalities in liver function tests quickly normalized, in absence of specific therapy. The real meaning of liver tests transient alterations has yet to be determined in COVID-19 infected subjects. With the future evolution of the pandemic, prospective observations could provide further information on this specific clinical issue.

 

 

My brother has post-covid liver damage. He's a  fit, slim man in his sixties, who was double-vaccinated. He is debilitated by the liver damage and is waiting to see a specialist to discuss next steps. The length of the waiting list suggests that he is not alone.

[TravelingChris]

10 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:

and a comment from Norman Swan.

 

Over here in Alabama, it is the adenovirus and they generally think it is a particular strain of adenovirus that can cause this complication.

[Dmmetler]

Got my 4th (Moderna, after the prior 3 were pfizer) yesterday. Not feeling too bad today, and it makes me feel far more confident in summer plans.

[Melissa Louise]

Ds woke up with a sore throat, tested because we have a family Easter lunch to go to - positive. 

He's in his own room with an air purifier, has P2 masks to wear when he has to leave his room, I'm running a large air purifier in the main room, and all windows are open. 

Only one bathroom.

Anything else I should/could do? 

I guess I should mask out of my room too? 

[Longtime Lurker]

8 hours ago, Dmmetler said:

Got my 4th (Moderna, after the prior 3 were pfizer) yesterday. Not feeling too bad today, and it makes me feel far more confident in summer plans.

This is what I am considering also, a Moderna after 3 Pfizers. My Pfizer booster was in late September so I may do it soon. Although since I will be traveling (for the first time since December 2019) at the end of May, I may try to time it to have maximum immunity at that point.

[freesia]

4 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

Ds woke up with a sore throat, tested because we have a family Easter lunch to go to - positive. 

He's in his own room with an air purifier, has P2 masks to wear when he has to leave his room, I'm running a large air purifier in the main room, and all windows are open. 

Only one bathroom.

Anything else I should/could do? 

I guess I should mask out of my room too? 

Oh, no! I’m sorry. I didn’t mask when dh had it except when I went in to care for him, but he had an attached bathroom and never left the room. I think ventilation is key, though. Keep the windows open and air moving, if you can. Personally, I still don’t think I’d mask with the windows open and air purifiers running, but you haven’t got anything to lose if you do. I think your ex should, if he will. 

[Melissa Louise]

I wish 4th doses were available to adults generally here. Only for seniors and immune-suppressed here. 

[Melissa Louise]

Just now, freesia said:

Oh, no! I’m sorry. I didn’t mask when dh had it except when I went in to care for him, but he had an attached bathroom and never left the room. I think ventilation is key, though. Keep the windows open and air moving, if you can. Personally, I still don’t think I’d mask with the windows open and air purifiers running, but you haven’t got anything to lose if you do. I think your ex should, if he will. 

Thanks. I'll tell him. He has had a 4th jab recently, so that's something. It's up to him if he does or doesn't though. 

I should keep the bathroom fan running, right? It has a window that opens - is that enough, do you think? 

[freesia]

3 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

Thanks. I'll tell him. He has had a 4th jab recently, so that's something. It's up to him if he does or doesn't though. 

I should keep the bathroom fan running, right? It has a window that opens - is that enough, do you think? 

Yes, I do think that’s enough. The fan will theoretically pull the fresh air through. I can’t remember all the details but if you keep the CO2 levels low it is protective against Covid ( not bc of the CO2 but as a monitor of air movement). At our church we pull the air through with fans from one end to the other. One elder, who works at IBM, monitors the air with a CO2 monitor. Since we started this last May when we went back in person, we’ve had no spread even with people occasionally testing positive ( no one around them got it.). Most people do wear masks and always during singing, but I really believe that good ventilation helps a lot. 

[Melissa in Australia]

30 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

Ds woke up with a sore throat, tested because we have a family Easter lunch to go to - positive. 

He's in his own room with an air purifier, has P2 masks to wear when he has to leave his room, I'm running a large air purifier in the main room, and all windows are open. 

Only one bathroom.

Anything else I should/could do? 

I guess I should mask out of my room too? 

Hope he has a mild dose. 

 My ds 23 and his girlfriend had it last week. He only felt like a heavy cold for 2 days and then they both felt fine. He came out of isolation today. We dropped food off at their front door last week, and the old Nintendo 64. After 2 days playing it nonstop they messaged me and asked how could I stand hearing the sound of it when he was a kid🤣😂🤣

 

[Dmmetler]

51 minutes ago, Longtime Lurker said:

This is what I am considering also, a Moderna after 3 Pfizers. My Pfizer booster was in late September so I may do it soon. Although since I will be traveling (for the first time since December 2019) at the end of May, I may try to time it to have maximum immunity at that point.

We need to go move L out of the dorm the 2nd week of May, so that, plus the fact that I have a few days before I go back to work due to Easter, weighed into timing. This way, I should be well protected for the trip through the "nver had a mask mandate" South and for dorm move out. Going in and out of the hospital daily in Jan-March when I had my last booster in late Sept was nerve wracking. 

[Dmmetler]

51 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

I wish 4th doses were available to adults generally here. Only for seniors and immune-suppressed here. 

They're available to 50+ and immune supressed. I'm borderline on the latter, and won't turn 50 until mid-Summer, and my immunologist advised getting it now so that if they have a specific booster next fall, I'll be able to get it. I usually get 2 flu shots, one early in the season and then one in winter, for the same reason. 

[Melissa Louise]

1 hour ago, Melissa in Australia said:

Hope he has a mild dose. 

 My ds 23 and his girlfriend had it last week. He only felt like a heavy cold for 2 days and then they both felt fine. He came out of isolation today. We dropped food off at their front door last week, and the old Nintendo 64. After 2 days playing it nonstop they messaged me and asked how could I stand hearing the sound of it when he was a kid🤣😂🤣

 

I'm not too worried about ds, more worried him giving it to me, or to his immunocompromised dad. 

Glad your ds and g/f had a mild dose.

It took DD about 8 weeks for her post Covid breathlessness to settle, and she is still dealing with fatigue 🙁

[Melissa Louise]

37 minutes ago, Dmmetler said:

They're available to 50+ and immune supressed. I'm borderline on the latter, and won't turn 50 until mid-Summer, and my immunologist advised getting it now so that if they have a specific booster next fall, I'll be able to get it. I usually get 2 flu shots, one early in the season and then one in winter, for the same reason. 

Over 65 here, not sure why the difference. 

Apparently anti-virals aren't available here either, unless you are unvaccinated ( specialist said they are only being used when someone unvaccinated gets Covid). 

Glad you're protected for the summer. 

[maize]

@Melissa Louise I hope your ds has a mild case and the rest of you don't get it.

My kids who had it were younger, but it was pretty mild for all of them and they were back to normal within a week or so. 

I know experiences are all over the place, some of my extended family have been much sicker including young kids and adults who were vaccinated and boosted. It's a weird virus. 

[Melissa in Australia]

Ds18 just tested positive. I rang him to make sure he had enough food. He said he feels normal crook. Whatever that means.  He said he has been crook for 2 days. My boys are all men of very few words. He sounded awful. But hopefully he has a mild case like his brothers had.

[bookbard]

So they've just dropped the rules that you have to isolate if your family member has covid. The only covid rule they seem to have retained is that you have to isolate if you're covid positive. That'll be next I guess. And to be honest I am sure there are a lot of covid positive people who aren't isolating at all, or testing, because of the inability to take time off work. 

[Ausmumof3]

@Melissa Louise

@Melissa in Australia

I hope both of your kids have mild cases and you both manage to avoid it

[Ausmumof3]

Positivity rate here is roughly 30pc. Hospitalisation is still ticking up. Cases were up today but not as massive a bump as it could have been for the first day of post Easter testing.

Shopped today and maybe 30pc of people were still masking. Had some holiday work - No one at work masked but me.

 

[Ausmumof3]

Having a bit of a weird maybe we did have covid way back moment. In Easter 2020 we had a bug go through extended family that originally came from someone’s boss when they came home from overseas. Testing wasn’t available then unless you’d come from China. It was a pretty nasty bug at the time.
 
every now and then I’ve wondered but dismissed the idea. I read today that covid is causing heart rhythm issues - something that two family members have developed in the intervening time. I’m sure it’s still quite unlikely but I can’t help wondering. There’s probably no way to ever know because antibodies would have long since declined.

[Melissa Louise]

48 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

@Melissa Louise

@Melissa in Australia

I hope both of your kids have mild cases and you both manage to avoid it

Thanks. Ds has only been mildly unwell with cold symptoms. Nobody else sick at the moment.

Isolation for close contacts ends in NSW Friday night. Trust us to just slide in right at the end, and have to do a week of iso instead of holidays!

[Melissa in Australia]

2 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:

@Melissa Louise

@Melissa in Australia

I hope both of your kids have mild cases and you both manage to avoid it

thank you 

It is hard to get info form ds18. I think he is having a mild case.

 he is a man of very few words. I have to message very specific questions that he can answer with a yes or no to get any details from him. So I do know that he isn't having trouble breathing and isn't coughing much.

I am glad he shifted into a  mini unit a month ago. it would have been very hard to do isolation in a bungalow in the back yard of someone's house with no access to food or ability to store food. At least in the unit he has a fridge and a stove.

[prairiewindmomma]

I don’t think this has been shared yet: vaccine efficacy in those with inflammatory autoimmune disease: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanrhe/article/PIIS2665-9913(22)00096-0/fulltext

[Ausmumof3]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/21/first-person-to-have-covid-infection-for-more-than-a-year-identified-in-uk?fbclid=IwAR3hOCWXxtvYuqJvt0PEPhpAaSAEhRDirLOmC9__15AkCiCuGBJ0LVxzHDU
 

Doctors in the UK have called for urgent new treatments to clear persistent Covid infections after identifying the first person in the world known to have harboured the virus for more than a year.

The patient, who had a weakened immune system, caught the virus in 2020 and tested positive for Covid for 505 days before they died. Previously, the longest known PCR-confirmed case of Covid was a US cancer survivor in her 40s who tested positive for 335 days.

 

 

 

[Corraleno]

45 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/21/first-person-to-have-covid-infection-for-more-than-a-year-identified-in-uk?fbclid=IwAR3hOCWXxtvYuqJvt0PEPhpAaSAEhRDirLOmC9__15AkCiCuGBJ0LVxzHDU
 

Doctors in the UK have called for urgent new treatments to clear persistent Covid infections after identifying the first person in the world known to have harboured the virus for more than a year.

The patient, who had a weakened immune system, caught the virus in 2020 and tested positive for Covid for 505 days before they died. Previously, the longest known PCR-confirmed case of Covid was a US cancer survivor in her 40s who tested positive for 335 days.

Yikes! Besides obviously being miserable for the person struggling with an active covid infection for so long, extensive evolution/mutation in a single patient is apparently how we got Omicron.  

[Laura Corin]

This is the best data on UK Covid levels - random sampling of people with and without symptoms. Levels are still high but dropping

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/22april2022#main-points

[Ausmumof3]

https://www.statnews.com/2022/04/21/n-c-becomes-second-u-s-state-to-report-unusual-cases-of-hepatitis-in-kids/
 

A couple of cases of the hepatitis thinking in NC

[Ausmumof3]

Today. 
cases are down. Testing is way down. Hospitalisations are up. Deaths are up.

Two other families at church wore masks and then one older couple in a high risk group. No one else. A fair few people have had it recently so they’re not so worried. A few have taken weeks to get better but I don’t know anyone suffering more long term. There was a very small number of masks at the shop. 
 

Globally it looks like deaths are still well on the way down to around the 3000 per day mark so that’s a bit of good news.

[bookbard]

1 hour ago, Ausmumof3 said:

Today. 
cases are down. Testing is way down. Hospitalisations are up. Deaths are up.

Yes, I feel like the Easter/ANZAC holiday/school holiday thing has really played havoc with testing. I think once school is back and holidays are over, people will be more likely to test. And the real numbers will become clear. 

We've finally decided to pull the kids out of school because of covid chaos. I've applied for homeschooling and will call both schools on Tuesday. Legally, I think they have to attend until after assessment visit (which we've been warned will take 3+ months), but apparently the schools may allow 'home learning' till then - one school I know definitely will be ok with that, the other, well, we'll see. I am feeling a bit stressed but hopefully after it's done will be ok. Looking forward to the actual homeschooling.

[Melissa Louise]

@bookbard

Good luck with the permission for home learning. Good call. I can't see Term 2 being any less chaotic.