Alicia64 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 At 18, this woman is ten times more level-headed than I am in my 40's!!! http://gma.yahoo.com/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder-911-operators-okay-091106413.html Alley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 :hurray: Not that the guy was shot, but for her. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Now there is a woman with backbone ;) That is a lot to deal with at such a young age in such a short time. What a terrifying situation to be in but she is absolutely right, there is nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 What amazes me is that police didn't show up for 21 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theYoungerMrsWarde Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 What amazes me is that police didn't show up for 21 minutes. :iagree: The courts have also ruled that the police are under no obligation to help you (a rape victim tried to sue them and lost.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicia64 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 What amazes me is that police didn't show up for 21 minutes. My understanding is that this time frame is a lot more common than most of us realize. What I don't get is that she clearly has a full size German Shepherd. Those two idiots were going to face down the dog?? Or kill it with the knife?? I have to admit: I wouldn't think they'd barge in with a massive dog barking at them. (Although I've known very docile German Shephers so maybe this one was huddled behind a chair.) Alley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Well, I pretty much would have done the same thing but I don't know that I would have had the presence of mind to call 911. I once had someone trying to break into my home in Norman, OK when he knew there were only two young women at home and I drove him off at the point of my thirty ought six. I didn't even have a young child at the time but based on statistics alone you think that people would know not to poke a mama bear when she is protecting her young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 :iagree: The courts have also ruled that the police are under no obligation to help you (a rape victim tried to sue them and lost.) WHAT??? :svengo: If the police are under no obligation to help, what are they for?? :001_huh: My understanding is that this time frame is a lot more common than most of us realize. What I don't get is that she clearly has a full size German Shepherd. Those two idiots were going to face down the dog?? Or kill it with the knife?? I have to admit: I wouldn't think they'd barge in with a massive dog barking at them. (Although I've known very docile German Shephers so maybe this one was huddled behind a chair.) Alley The 21 minutes doesn't really surprise me. I am a little shocked that the dog didn't give them pause, though. That said, my dog (who is not a German Shepherd, but is still 70 lbs and has a 'big' warning bark) would give said warning bark and then sit down at their feet to be petted. :tongue_smilie: Nah, maybe not really. I've heard that even docile dogs can be pretty feisty if their owners are being threatened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snickerdoodle Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 When I read it "drug deal gone bad" is what came to my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cin Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 That said, my dog (who is not a German Shepherd, but is still 70 lbs and has a 'big' warning bark) would give said warning bark and then sit down at their feet to be petted. :tongue_smilie: :iagree::D That's the way my black lab was. I like the last sentence of the article. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdalley Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 More and more people are defending themselves. We've had two would be robbers shot in our area trying to hold up a store in the past month. Each of them had length rap sheets. The clerks said they were tired of getting robbed and took steps to defend their property. I applaud this woman for her calmness. Being a former dispatcher it is rare that someone in that situation is that calm but then she had just lost her husband and her baby was there. I stay calm around the kids. The other guy turned and ran and then turned himself in. It's obvious from the story - one of them had come by the house before - they were casing houses and thought she'd be an easy mark. There is no telling what the dog would do in that situation. I have a cocker spaniel that would tear someone up but a large lab mix that would probably go hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theYoungerMrsWarde Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 WHAT??? :svengo: If the police are under no obligation to help, what are they for?? :001_huh: The 21 minutes doesn't really surprise me. I am a little shocked that the dog didn't give them pause, though. That said, my dog (who is not a German Shepherd, but is still 70 lbs and has a 'big' warning bark) would give said warning bark and then sit down at their feet to be petted. :tongue_smilie: Nah, maybe not really. I've heard that even docile dogs can be pretty feisty if their owners are being threatened... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html "The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation." This is an old article, but there have been several more rulings that say the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazakaal Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Wow. That woman really has guts. I think I would have cowered in a closet with my baby. Of course, I don't own a gun, so that wouldn't have been an option for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunD Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The crazy thing is, in some states you have to run. You can't always shoot someone breaking into your home. If you're in a duty-to-retreat state, you have to run away and then can use deadly force if they pursue and attack you. In other states the law says you can "stand your ground" and shoot anyone breaking into your home, vehicle, or business. Castle doctrine on Wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Good for her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty ethel rackham Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The crazy thing is, in some states you have to run. You can't always shoot someone breaking into your home. If you're in a duty-to-retreat state, you have to run away and then can use deadly force if they pursue and attack you. In other states the law says you can "stand your ground" and shoot anyone breaking into your home, vehicle, or business. Castle doctrine on Wikipedia But how do you run with an infant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kidsforME Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The crazy thing is, in some states you have to run. You can't always shoot someone breaking into your home. If you're in a duty-to-retreat state, you have to run away and then can use deadly force if they pursue and attack you. In other states the law says you can "stand your ground" and shoot anyone breaking into your home, vehicle, or business. Castle doctrine on Wikipedia I'd take the chance. There is no way i would be able to run with my 4 kids. You break into my house knowing I am there with my kids you are going to get shot. I'll let the courts (all the way to the supreme courts if need be) decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunD Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 But how do you run with an infant? That, I don't know. I'm glad she was in Oklahoma and didn't have to try. Maybe retreating to a bedroom and locking that door would be "good enough", but you wouldn't know unless you shot them, got sued/charged, and then found to have been justified. I've never seen anything that specifies how you're supposed to get away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Good for her. He deserved to be shot. Too bad the other got away. He deserves it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetMissMagnolia Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 yeah.....we never know what we can do until we're put in that situation....good for her..... :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Whoa!! Did you see the video? That gal has cojones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 D***, wow! How terrible to be a widow at 18 and then have some A******* try to break in. Yup, she wins backbone of the year award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 This reminds me of an African folktale about a lion family. During a drought the father was far-ranging for food for the baby. The mother felt threatened by hyenas, then a leopard began trailing her. She moved her cub into a protected overhang of a cliff and waited. She placed herself face out blocking the entrance. When the father finally found them, there was a dead leopard outside the enclosure. The mother was dead, but turned inside so that her child could feed from her body. The old people who tell the story end it with the admonishment that no matter what you do as a hunter, you never, ever, go after a mother with a baby.... Good lesson to know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parias1126 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 She is amazing! Good for her! I would had been scared to death! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laundrycrisis Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I'd take the chance. There is no way i would be able to run with my 4 kids. You break into my house knowing I am there with my kids you are going to get shot. I'll let the courts (all the way to the supreme courts if need be) decide. :iagree: I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Yes, I am glad she had that 12 gauge close by and knew how to use it - and I am glad that it's still legal to have a weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Wow! What jerks to go after a recent widow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 WHAT??? :svengo: If the police are under no obligation to help, what are they for?? :001_huh: The 21 minutes doesn't really surprise me. I am a little shocked that the dog didn't give them pause, though. That said, my dog (who is not a German Shepherd, but is still 70 lbs and has a 'big' warning bark) would give said warning bark and then sit down at their feet to be petted. :tongue_smilie: Nah, maybe not really. I've heard that even docile dogs can be pretty feisty if their owners are being threatened... Yes, everything changes when they perceive a threat. My always docile mastiff once placed herself between me and a man who was cleaning out my chimney. Every hair on her back was raised. As soon as he was done and gone, she relaxed. I don't know what bad vibe she got but she turned protective immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAutumnOak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 :iagree: I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I would have done the same exact thing, if I had a shotgun, which I don't. I would not have asked permission either. (Although I would have called 911, but it would have been a different conversation--reporting, please hurry, O my goodness, they are breaking in, BAM!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissad2 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I would hope I would have the guts to do the same! Stuff like this makes me want to get a CWP and a gun immediately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) More info on this story. http://www.news9.com/story/16446500/prosecutors-charge-accomplice-of-man-shot-killed-by-blanchard-mom Edited January 5, 2012 by Faith correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laundrycrisis Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 More info on this story, accomplice is now charged with the shooting. http://www.news9.com/story/16446500/prosecutors-charge-accomplice-of-man-shot-killed-by-blanchard-mom He's not charged with the actual shooting, but, "Prosecutors have now charged Stewart with first-degree murder because he was engaged in a felony crime when his accomplice was killed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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