Jean in Newcastle Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Our car was one of many leafleted by the National Socialists. I feel icky from the ugliness printed on there - and the recruiting call to Anti-semitic Whites. My kids said, "Well, that counts out us and Daddy." I told them that counted out Mommy too. I've had some scary encounters with skinheads before - who specifically targeted me for having the audacity to "pollute" the white race. I had hoped we had moved to a safer area for a mixed race family. Now I feel icky again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Mom4 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I'm so sorry. That IS icky! :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJCMom Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 :grouphug: That is just awful. I'm so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 :ack2::ack2: :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoforjoy Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Wow, that is just horrible. :grouphug: I honestly can't imagine anything like that happening anywhere I've lived, but maybe I'm just naive. I'm really sorry your family had to deal with that today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 :grouphug: How horrible, I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imprimis Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Disgusting. Sorry that happened to you. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Yuck. We've had very limited run-ins--Dh has a website about Second Temple Synagogues, and some white supremists left threatening comments a while ago. Pretty scary--there's just no reasoning with indoctrinated idiocy. Didn't some lady on this forum turn out to be a white supremist? Maybe a couple of years ago? {Shudder} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacia Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 They're scary (as are all the hate groups out there). :grouphug: A good way to stay informed & help fight hate groups -- keep up w/ info from & support the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelaughs_times_three Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 :ack2: Yuck! So icky! So frustrated that you and your wonderful family have to deal with that! :grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug: I've had some horrid encounters with them myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 :grouphug: I'm so sorry that this happened. Remember who you are in Christ--beloved, treasured. Keep that truth firmly in front of you and walk in confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 They're scary (as are all the hate groups out there). :grouphug: A good way to stay informed & help fight hate groups -- keep up w/ info from & support the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center. Thanks. This group was listed on the site as a neo-Nazi group - which fits its rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 SPLC has a FABULOUS magazine. Although it's creepy because I don't often actively see these groups in action. It's creey because you find out how close some of them really are. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Education Explorers Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I'm sorry they really are creepy. I got to explain the whole skinhead concept to my daughter standing in line at Sea World. There were 2 thugs covered in tattoos which quite visibly displayed their hatred and intolerance in a most graphic manner. My daughter was pretty freaked and wanted to get out of line. Since they weren't mouthing off to anyone, I told her we were staying put. We were not going to let their hatred interfere with our enjoyment of Sea World. It was a great teaching moment. Thank goodness the 2 thugs were on their best behavior that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaffodilDreams Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I feel icky along with you. We're a mixed race family, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Atl Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 That is terrible, I'm sorry that happened. :( Didn't some lady on this forum turn out to be a white supremist? Maybe a couple of years ago? {Shudder} Yes, she had racist links in her sig line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 That is terrible, I'm sorry that happened. :( Yes, she had racist links in her sig line. I guess I blocked that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughCollie Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Our car was one of many leafleted by the National Socialists. Those people scare me. I'm sorry you all had to go through that. :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I guess I blocked that out. It wasn't obvious until another poster (maybe Sis?) and I got into it with her on the K-8 board over her saying crazy thing about ancient Egypt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Wolf's hustled me out of a public area before, refusing to discuss what was going on, just a 'move, move, move!'. Turned out he'd spotted members of Red Alert heading our way. (Red Alert is a First Nations gang, quite violent). When ignorance and violence go hand in hand, everyone suffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerkaza Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Jean, I am so sorry you have to deal with this. That makes me very angry. {{{Hugs}}} to you and your family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldGirl Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Jean, I am so sorry. That is scary {{{shudder}}}. My husband refuses to go on vacation anywhere without first finding out if it is safe for us to travel in that area. I have traveled many-a-places only on my computer :mellow: :grouphug::grouphug: Lisa in DE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 SPLC has a FABULOUS magazine. Although it's creepy because I don't often actively see these groups in action. It's creey because you find out how close some of them really are. :( Yes indeed. Nebraska was a stronghold for years . The magazine is superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I am so sad and sorry this happened to you. I remember as a child that our neighborhood was canvassed by some supremacist group. I was one of the older children in the group of neighborhood kids and orgnixed the kids to find the papers and get rid of them. I don't know if they were trying to recruit (that is what the paper implied with a fill out coupon for more information) or if they were trying to intimidate. Probably both but as far as I know, no one was buying. We were used to crazy posters and pamplhlets. I distinctly remember when the Iranian Revolution happened and some politicians were talking about how it was a complete surprise. Well not to me, a child or teen. Why? Because my neighborhood was routinely decorated with anti-Shah posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaid Dad Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Jean, I am so sorry you had to deal with such ugliness. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-2-7 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 That is horrible! I'm so sorry you had to be exposed to that. We are a VERY mixed race family (white, mexican, Filipino and black). I worry about this kind of stuff when we move east in the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 We lived in a city that had riots when the National Socialists came to town. Ugly stuff! It was very scary for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenL Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) I'm sorry, Jean. While I have not personally experienced it myself, a friend of mine who taught at a middle school just south of my town was fearful of some of the students in her grade finding out she was Jewish because they were part of an anti-Semitic group. It was sickening to hear that people with these beliefs were so close. Edited June 13, 2011 by jenL spelling error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Our car was one of many leafleted by the National Socialists. I feel icky from the ugliness printed on there - and the recruiting call to Anti-semitic Whites. My kids said, "Well, that counts out us and Daddy." I told them that counted out Mommy too. I've had some scary encounters with skinheads before - who specifically targeted me for having the audacity to "pollute" the white race. I had hoped we had moved to a safer area for a mixed race family. Now I feel icky again. Very sorry, Jean. Those are a bunch of reprehensible idiots. When I lived down south, there was a short time that I lived in an apartment where across the courtyard from me a group of Posse Comitatus/Christian Identity folks set up camp. They were running "services" out of the apartment and you could hear their spew even with all the windows and door shut. :ack2: I moved as soon as I could come up with the deposit for another place. They were vile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllBoys Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I am so sorry that happened to you. At the risk of sounding naive, is this a southern thing? I can't remember even hearing something like that here in Maryland. We are close to DC and there are so many different races and nationalities and mixed race families it seems normal here. We do live out in the country but I never hear anything like this. I didn't realize there were so many people left like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 I am so sorry that happened to you. At the risk of sounding naive, is this a southern thing? I can't remember even hearing something like that here in Maryland. We are close to DC and there are so many different races and nationalities and mixed race families it seems normal here. We do live out in the country but I never hear anything like this. I didn't realize there were so many people left like that. I live in the Pacific Northwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacia Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 At the risk of sounding naive, is this a southern thing? I can't remember even hearing something like that here in Maryland. We are close to DC and there are so many different races and nationalities and mixed race families it seems normal here. We do live out in the country but I never hear anything like this. I didn't realize there were so many people left like that. You might want to check out the SPLC's Hate Map to see what groups are known to be active in your area... I don't know exactly where you are, but they list at least 12 active groups in DC, 29 in VA, and 17 in Maryland, for example.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllBoys Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 You might want to check out the SPLC's Hate Map to see what groups are known to be active in your area... I don't know exactly where you are, but they list at least 12 active groups in DC, 29 in VA, and 17 in Maryland, for example.... Wow, that is unbelievable! There are none near us (I guess because we live pretty far out) but it is really scary to look at that on a map. So sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I am so sorry that happened to you. At the risk of sounding naive, is this a southern thing? I can't remember even hearing something like that here in Maryland. We are close to DC and there are so many different races and nationalities and mixed race families it seems normal here. We do live out in the country but I never hear anything like this. I didn't realize there were so many people left like that. When I ran into them it was in North East PA. They are despicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medieval Mom Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) I dealt with this in Germany, when I was an exchange student there. I have dark brown eyes. My host family informed me my eyes were "evil", even pointing in my Langenscheidt dictionary to make sure I understood. They promptly asked for a transfer of houses. I cannot even count the number of times I was pushed off public buses by Neo-Nazis, and the bus driver did... nothing. When I was in the Czech Republic, where brown eyes are acceptable to the Neo-Nazi groups there (apparently), my host family's daughter was dating a guy who bragged to me about how many gypsies he'd killed and filled me in about his group. I was never so glad to get back home. (Edited out personal info here.) People are NUTS!!! I've run into racism far more in Europe and Latin America than in the U.S. I know it's here in the U.S., too; I just haven't experienced it on a daily basis here. I'm truly sorry that you had such a rotten experience, Jean! ETA: Thanks for the link to the SPLC. I see that I've just moved to a city with a National Socialist Movement group. Great. :glare: Edited June 13, 2011 by Medieval Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntgoodwin Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Ugh, that's disgusting! Sorry you have to experience that. I have never had the misfortune of seeing organized racism like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndie Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) Oh that's just gross. :( I had no idea such groups still existed. According to the map, there are several right here in my area. I wondered why my friend didn't want to come here to my home although she wanted to come visit me. She is in a mixed race marriage... now I understand. I find it hard to understand such racism and hate. I'm sorry you were exposed to that today Jean. Edited June 13, 2011 by Wyndie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvasMom Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I am *shocked* by how many groups are in New Jersey. 49 in our tiny little state! Really?? The only ones who have more are Florida (barely, they have 49), Texas, and California (but both of those are huge states). There was barely room on that map to cram all the icons in. So gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvasMom Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Oh and New Jersey seems to have as many black supremacist groups as white, lest it be implied that it's just white supremacists on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPlaceLikeHome Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 They're scary (as are all the hate groups out there). :grouphug: A good way to stay informed & help fight hate groups -- keep up w/ info from & support the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center. :iagree::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: I am sorry you had to experience that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaffodilDreams Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 No wonder it's kind of creepy driving through some of the little towns in this state. Many of them are home to a nasty racist group. Great. So much for trying to move a bit away from the city. I think we'll just stay put in the 'burbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm sorry you had to go through that. Unfortunately, my state has had more than their fair share, and we nowhere near the south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 So sorry, Jean. I think it's probably a good thing that you had the opportunity to point out that you don't align yourself with such groups, and that they would reject you. It's probably an important discussion to have. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 So sorry, Jean. I think it's probably a good thing that you had the opportunity to point out that you don't align yourself with such groups, and that they would reject you. It's probably an important discussion to have. :grouphug: I was actually speechless for a moment that dd would even think that I would consider it because I am white (though I'm not anti-semitic or racist). Ds is old enough to understand and be disgusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogMom5 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm sorry Jean. That's a horrid thing to have happen to you. :grouphug: We were sent recruitment materials twice. Once in the D.C. area and once here in FL. I don't know how they got our name and address but the material was disgusting. We thought about taking it to the local post office but I wasn't sure that they could do anything about it. In the end, we threw it in the trash. We haven't received anything since then, thank heavens! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleWMN Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) Yuck. I'm so sorry. We are a multiracial family. We've come across a very vocal black segretist and know (knew?) some white supremists but I've never experienced it in an organized manner. We lived in a smaller town in our state where our dd was the only black person in town (we moved when she was 2). I knew a lady who had a biracial son and some man spit in his face in the Walmart parking lot and made a racial slur to her. The baby was only 6 weeks old at the time. :( This was only 5 years ago. We were targeted at the zoo by the black segretist. I've shared the story before so I won't go into it again, but we had to call the cops. And we are no longer welcome in the home of some relatives because our daughter is black. Edited June 13, 2011 by littleWMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I was actually speechless for a moment that dd would even think that I would consider it because I am white That was my reaction when I read it, and I was thinking that might have hurt. :grouphug: I have also had people assume I will want to join in their random ethnobash moment, and it is actually an ongoing problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah C. Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: I am so very sorry that happened to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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