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Wow...this has been an intersting thread to read.

 

I'd have to say I'd pick a country where some of my ancestors came from. I know that's not very logical or well thought out, but I've always been more interested in countries that I knew I came from.

 

So, if the US weren't habitable anymore (which would be my first choice, only because I am part Native American,) then I'd pick Norway or Denmark. Or at least research those two countries first. Cause, you know, if an alien attach happened tomorrow, I'd have loads of time researching while we were running for our lives. If either of those two countries ended up not working out, we'd have to chose France since my dh is 3/4 French, via Louisanna. I could handle purchasing a some land by some small villa and having a vinard. (No, we are not discussing the legalities of illegal immigrants since this is a hypothetical situation, because then hypothetically all these countries would welcome my family with open arms and be happy that we chose them.) :lol:

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unfortunately there's a LOT of people worldwide griping about American Unilateralism that are still asleep too. Go figger ;)

 

Hey Peek... :patriot:

 

There was a post earlier about how many think anything left of the US is socialist and that we're not as middle as we think we are, or something of that nature? That was the point. That was the point of this country to NOT do the same as other countries where the government was the main show in town, keeping government out as much as humanly possible without anarchy. Argue that it's a bad thing or unrealistic, but that was, after all, the point. I don't want to be middle, personally. I'd have to say Texas too. :lol:

 

I will now bite my tongue very hard to avoid talking politics. That was history. Not politics. :tongue_smilie:

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:smilielol5::lol::smilielol5::lol::smilielol5:

 

You might as well come down south then.

 

We still have running water, single digit inflation compared to 2300000%, a fairly stable currency, an economy affected less by the global crisis than others (compared to Zim that means food in the shops), great sunny weather for most of the year, a democracy that is still intact, incredible opportunities for entrepeneurs ...... homeschooling is legal.....and the few problems we'll just ignore shall we?

 

Anyone else for Southern Africa? :rolleyes:

 

Hey, Cape Town or White River might be doable.... Thanks for the welcoming spirit at any rate! Last time DH tried to get a visa to go to RSA for a while so I could have dd, he was not on a US passport and they wouldn't let him do anything but transit through.:glare: (We were missionaries in Moz at the time.)

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I would not leave the U.S. I did research other places, just in case, and I couldn't find anywhere better than here. Chile looked promising for awhile, but we'd all have to learn to speak Spanish fluently and figure out a new way to make a living. Plus, it is one thing to leave my country for a few years to experience living in another place for fun, and quite another to abandon it altogether. I don't think I could do it.

 

My brother thinks we should all move to Texas in the near future, because he is convinced that state will secede from the nation if things get too bad, and then close their borders to the rest of us. I don't see any of that happening, though.

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Hey, Cape Town or White River might be doable....

 

I vote for White River. Cape Town's getting a bit crowded.... I grew up there and my father now lives in Gordon's Bay. Nice for a visit, but its too metropolitan for me now.

White River is growing too, but it's still a town - and close to the bush!

 

Thanks for the welcoming spirit at any rate! Last time DH tried to get a visa to go to RSA for a while so I could have dd, he was not on a US passport and they wouldn't let him do anything but transit through.:glare: (We were missionaries in Moz at the time.)

 

Where did you have your baby?

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Unless you gave up citizenship, you'd have to pay US taxes on earned overseas income.

 

Laura

 

If we're pretending that there has been a horrific nuclear accident which precludes anyone from living in the U.S., presumably taxes won't be an issue. :D

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I would not leave the U.S.

 

My brother thinks we should all move to Texas in the near future, because he is convinced that state will secede from the nation if things get too bad, and then close their borders to the rest of us.

 

:D Texas is most definitely my answer.

However, if I truly had to leave this land that love- I am not sure where we would go. Probably on a house boat, and if that didn't work- maybe Belize.

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We still have running water, single digit inflation compared to 2300000%, a fairly stable currency, an economy affected less by the global crisis than others (compared to Zim that means food in the shops), great sunny weather for most of the year, a democracy that is still intact, incredible opportunities for entrepeneurs ...... homeschooling is legal.....and the few problems we'll just ignore shall we?

 

Anyone else for Southern Africa? :rolleyes:

 

 

Alas those "few problems" include crime, gun control an extremely fragile (if still intact) democracy, impending farm confiscations, the murder of thousands of white farmers, affirmative action gone mad...no I am sorry but no.

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Alas those "few problems" include crime, gun control an extremely fragile (if still intact) democracy, impending farm confiscations, the murder of thousands of white farmers, affirmative action gone mad...no I am sorry but no.

 

But, but, but ...the weather's great!!!

 

Do you have ties with South Africa?

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:iagree:

 

DH points out that I have never been there, but that doesn't matter much. At least there's no rebel insurrection at the moment, and the appeal of a hammock on the beach is mighty fine. :001_smile:

 

DH said Mutare, Zimbabwe, right after Mugabe pops it. :tongue_smilie:

 

Susan

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Well I love Texas and I love the U.S. but I have wanted to move to France for a long time. It's not for political reasons, I just would like to live there for a while. It's a dream so I don't have great reasons except it's a beautiful country. Of course I would probably get there and miss Texas summers so much, we've move right back. Really though there's no place quite like home, in our case Texas even with our hot summers and large creepy crawlies!

 

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Well I love Texas and I love the U.S. but I have wanted to move to France for a long time. It's not for political reasons, I just would like to live there for a while. It's a dream so I don't have great reasons except it's a beautiful country. Of course I would probably get there and miss Texas summers so much, we've move right back. Really though there's no place quite like home, in our case Texas even with our hot summers and large creepy crawlies!

 

Judy

 

You would miss the freedom, make no mistake what we enjoy in the States is not found in all "democracies".

 

-pqr

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Hey Peek... :patriot:

 

There was a post earlier about how many think anything left of the US is socialist and that we're not as middle as we think we are, or something of that nature? That was the point. That was the point of this country to NOT do the same as other countries where the government was the main show in town, keeping government out as much as humanly possible without anarchy. Argue that it's a bad thing or unrealistic, but that was, after all, the point. I don't want to be middle, personally. I'd have to say Texas too. :lol:

 

I will now bite my tongue very hard to avoid talking politics. That was history. Not politics. :tongue_smilie:

 

i'm not sure what your point has to do w/ my point ...;)

MY point was that poor mandarinmom is being attacked for Not being Knowledgeable about history when there are supposedly-educated people all over the world screeching about Americans doing things unilaterally --w/ no permission or help. So if she's so wrong then it's only cuz she's been hearing that over. and over. and over. --NOT because she's "been asleep" ;)

 

I guess "no politics means no politics" only applies to a few of us.

 

hm. I guess so.

feel free to report the post [the little triangle in the upper right hand corner of each post].

 

or whine. your call.

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i'm not sure what your point has to do w/ my point ...;)

 

 

Your point has nothing to do with my point. I was responding to something else while giving a :patriot: to you first, but I fear I never learned to multi-quote and I was too lazy to go find the exact post and do a separate response. So, I fear I got confusing instead. :001_unsure:

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Your point has nothing to do with my point. I was responding to something else while giving a :patriot: to you first, but I fear I never learned to multi-quote and I was too lazy to go find the exact post and do a separate response. So, I fear I got confusing instead. :001_unsure:

 

oh! *whew!*

 

well in that case, plase accept my apologies for misunderstanding :D

 

:patriot: :cheers2:

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It is interesting that so many have picked Texas...

 

However, Arkansas, Montana (I could be wrong on this one, but it was during the Supreme Court gun control issue), and most recently Oklahoma have all already taken the first steps to put the federal government "on notice" so to speak that they will claim sovereignty should the need arise.

 

Personally, I hope that Texas would follow suit, after all, I'm in the middle of building a house on a new farm- the last thing I want to think about is moving!! However, we've always considered South America. You know...when the mutant zombie biker riders invade :rofl:

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That's fascinating about the states being able to claim sovereignty. What kind of circumstance would occasion that I wonder? If that were to start happening I can see the USA going the same way as the USSR with a whole bunch of little former states becoming countries.

I wonder what the risk/benefit analysis would be like. Surely there must be disadvantages to become your own very small country?

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That's fascinating about the states being able to claim sovereignty. What kind of circumstance would occasion that I wonder? If that were to start happening I can see the USA going the same way as the USSR with a whole bunch of little former states becoming countries.

I wonder what the risk/benefit analysis would be like. Surely there must be disadvantages to become your own very small country?

 

 

i'm kinda interested in researchng that a bit more, myself :)

 

As i mentioned in a post to Rebecca awhile back, I do think the disadvantages to remaining in The USA would have to be at least as severe and risky as the disadvantages to warrant states even considering it.

 

Just because the first civil war didn't succeed doesn't mean the second wouldn't either ;)

 

BUT! That's not what this thread is about. THIS thread is about all you foreign gals watching which countries us Americans would choose :D

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that's probably cuz we're a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy ;)

 

Really?!;) Yes. I realize that. The fact that the United States isn't a democracy was my point exactly.

 

ETA: Sorry about the double post. Peek knows I just wanted to be twice as emphatic. LOL

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I honestly can't say think of anywhere in the world where I would want to live. There isn't another country on earth where I think I would enjoy living nearly as much as the U.S. I don't think our family would enjoy our standard of living anywhere else in the world, for the amount of work that we do. The freedom that we have here in the US is a true blessing. I would want to live in whichever country is the closest to the US, I suppose, in terms of government and its role in our lives, and in terms of lifestyle. I suppose that would be Australia? I used to think that parts of Europe would be comparable, but I don't think so anymore.

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Belize. My DH and I met there years ago, and the official language is English.

 

 

My dad orginally planned to retire in Belize so I checked it out and it does indeed look good. There is a large expat population there, the cost of living is great, the weather is beautiful, it is easy to set up residency, the travel opportunities are great and they speak English. The downside would be the job market.

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Well, at this point in my life the only place I would consider moving is Texas. It is my home, where I grew up and where my family still lives. Now if a horrible nuclear accident precluded anywhere in the USA then we would go to Canada. It is absolutely beautiful, the culture is not completely foreign, we already speak the language in much of the country, homeschooling is legal in many places and it wouldn't be terribly difficult to get there. There is a job market for my hubby there and we could have approximately the same standard of living. On the other hand, I would imagine the country would absorb a lot of displaced American which would create its own problems.

 

Now if we are talking where we would live if we were rich and could live anywhere we wanted? I have always wanted to retire to Boston. I lived there when I was a teen and I loved it. My hubby has visited and loved it as well. It is also beautiful, there is so much to do and so much history which is the big draw for American history buff like my hubby and I.

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Texas.

 

LOL -- dh says the same thing. And we're here, so I guess the most we can do is secede! :lol:

 

Fwiw, I suggested Scotland. It's pretty. I figure there's no one else there. (Right? ;)) Dh is Scottish. I mean, aways back his family was. Yeah, & I think they let you in if you say that. (Right? :D)

 

But, no, he says Scotland is only for visiting. Too European for his taste these days.

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I think I liked this thread better when it seemed more lighthearted. But that's just me. I usually don't post much because I don't communicate well in cyberspace.

 

It's interesting to me that people have replied and said, "There's nowhere else I'd want to live". Not b/c I'm surprised they're happy here; nothing like that. Just that this thread was intended, as I understood it, to be posing a hypothetical question. Ria got that straight off the bat. If, for some reason, you absolutely couldn't live here any more, where would you go? Answering that question isn't displaying a lack of patriotism. It isn't saying you don't appreciate the United States. It isn't committing anyone to anything. It's just...a question.:)

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It's interesting to me that people have replied and said, "There's nowhere else I'd want to live". Not b/c I'm surprised they're happy here; nothing like that. Just that this thread was intended, as I understood it, to be posing a hypothetical question. Ria got that straight off the bat. The idea was, for some reason you absolutely couldn't live here any more, where would you go?

Answering that question isn't displaying a lack of patriotism. It isn't saying you don't appreciate the United States. It isn't committing anyone to anything. It's just...a question.:)

 

I love questions like these. I also like ones that are something along the lines of: Which time period would you choose to spend a year of your life? Ireland and England are the countries I just love for their beauty. I know nothing about their governments and don't care to know. This is my hypothetical dreaming. :D And I would want to spend a year in every major time period. (If I knew I would survive them!! :D)

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Funny that today we visited JAARS and Wycliff Bible Translators. There are still so many areas of the world that have no bible written in their native tongue. Wouldn't it be neat to just live somewhere and work on literacy and getting an undocumented language written down?

 

So, for me, anywhere that needs me would be great. What a wonderful way to raise your children to have empathy for others. Now, although this sounds stupid, I need to find out if I can take my dog and cat to another country with me because the kiddos would never leave them behind. Otherwise, they would love to go.

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