Amy in NH Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) On pbs.org at 7:00pm EST tonight instead of 9:00pm like the previous two weeks. Thanks go to dd for alerting me to the time change!Has anyone cheated and watched the illegal online upload earlier this week? (Not me) Edited January 16, 2017 by Amy in NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Peregrine Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Thanks, ds said it wasn't on this week. We never thought to check a different time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Anyone else get the feeling that this was the last show there will be, no season 5? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I just watched this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Crap!!! Why?!? We missed it. Where else can I watch it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsior! Academy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I've been stalking the Masterpiece Theater website waiting for it to be uploaded. Add it already!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Peregrine Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Crap!!! Why?!? We missed it. Where else can I watch it? We watch on the PBS website. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) I've been stalking the Masterpiece Theater website waiting for it to be uploaded. Add it already!!! IME it's not up til the next day. Edited January 16, 2017 by Seasider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Peregrine Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 IME it's not up til the next day. We've been watching the same night so far. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 What a strange ending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 What about Molly! One little glimpse at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 That was... something. Not sure what I think yet. (Although I'm sitting back with metaphorical popcorn watching Tumblr burn with rage right now and it's amusing...) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Anyone else get the feeling that this was the last show there will be, no season 5? I saw that hinted at in some interviews too. It sure seemed like they're ending it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 That was... something. Not sure what I think yet. (Although I'm sitting back with metaphorical popcorn watching Tumblr burn with rage right now and it's amusing...) Not sure what I think, either. What are some of the tumblr comments (generally speaking)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Not sure what I think, either. What are some of the tumblr comments (generally speaking)? "Betrayed" Johnlock shippers, mostly. Spoilers: I'm confused about so many things. Who was really pulling the strings here? Just the sister? Moriarty? Both of them? Or is the ones of those Moffat-y "just don't think about it" things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I think it was the sister...she talked Moriarty into filming those clips for her, and he was happy to oblige. My PBS channel has looped it back on again after Victoria. I'm watching it for the second time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsior! Academy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Anyone else get the feeling that this was the last show there will be, no season 5? They can't do that! No warning?! Masterpiece Theater does have it up to watch. Dh and I did watch the episode before posting. I need some time to process this one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckymama Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 We attended a watch party at WHYY in Philly :D I thought it was SO GOOD! I bawled through episode 2 so was very pleased to sit on the edge of my chair instead :lol: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Well, I just watched it and thought that it was very weird. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmMusa Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I did not care for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I especially enjoyed watching the "making of Sherlock " piece that aired before the actual episode. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scholastica Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 They can't do that! No warning?! Masterpiece Theater does have it up to watch. Dh and I did watch the episode before posting. I need some time to process this one. They announced a while ago that this would be the final season. All of their schedules are just too demanding to keep it going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2att Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I'm sad it's over, but less sad because this was not my favorite season. It was intense and definitely full of surprises, but less the crime-solving, intuitive Sherlock of the previous three. The Holmes parents seem so normal. Their children turned out so . . . not. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Spoilers..... I had mixed feelings. As a finale, I thought it worked. They wanted to wrap up some things. They left with the viewer being able to imagine all the beloved Sherlock characters still continuing in their usual places (which is kind of the underlying idea...that Sherlock as a character is enduring). But also they left Sherlock and Watson at sort of the end of a period of character/emotional growth. I thought the part with Molly was particularly touching. He went from having no idea of her feelings (or really just not caring), to openly making fun of her, to caring for her as a friend but still using her and then at the end he really seemed to understand how horrible what Euros wanted him to make her do was. That was huge emotional growth for him. As an episode, I enjoyed it much less than the ones from Season 1 or 2. If it had been one of the earlier episodes I'm not sure I would have wanted to keep watching. I just read a book about Seinfeld which made me think about the making of TV shows. Often, whatever hooks the watcher early on becomes difficult to keep doing. The really cool thing about the early episodes was the mystery solving and watching how he put the clues together. But I think after awhile that isn't new anymore so they tried to delve into the character's pasts more and go deeper. But that wasn't what hooked people in the beginning and I think is harder to sustain in a show that only is on 3 times a year (and skips 2 years in between seasons). Maybe that is why the new trend of having short run TV shows works so well. It never has a chance to get old. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Peregrine Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Spoiler... How did John get his food unshackled? LOL The technicalities that bother me. . . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrittanyM Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 They announced a while ago that this would be the final season. All of their schedules are just too demanding to keep it going. Where did you see that? Because I know they have no plans in the near future for another season but in everything I've seen Steven and Mark have indicated that they would like to do more if they can. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 If there is a fifth season, I think it's going to have to be after the conclusion of the MCU films, as both MF and BC play MCU characters now and will likely be in Infinity War. That could take a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrellyMama Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Spoiler... How did John get his food unshackled? LOL The technicalities that bother me. . . I wondered that also. This episode jumped a lot, and left small events out. I imagine how he got his foot out was unimportant. Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Spoiler. . . I wondered how a young Euros (who was what, 7? 8?) could have carved fake headstones. I don't doubt that a savant could make up the rhyme and the numerical cipher etc. but to physically put up those headstones seemed farfetched to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarasue7272 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Spoiler. . . I wondered how a young Euros (who was what, 7? 8?) could have carved fake headstones. I don't doubt that a savant could make up the rhyme and the numerical cipher etc. but to physically put up those headstones seemed farfetched to me. I thought she just used the headstones that were already there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Spoiler. . . I wondered how a young Euros (who was what, 7? 8?) could have carved fake headstones. I don't doubt that a savant could make up the rhyme and the numerical cipher etc. but to physically put up those headstones seemed farfetched to me. I think the whole "Euros did it" was entirely implausible. I believe she could bamboozle a lot of people, but pulling off the associated physical happenings was entirely too much of a stretch, imo. Completely controlling a high security facility, tying up men to be dropped in the ocean, transporting to the Holmes' estate... goes way beyond just headstones. Even with Moriarty involved in the past to record messages, his hand would not have stretched so far into the future. Anyone else catch the people unconscious on the airplane as a reflection of Mycroft's concoction of that airliner full of dead bodies? Edited January 17, 2017 by Seasider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I think the whole "Euros did it" was entirely implausible. I believe she could bamboozle a lot of people, but pulling off the associated physical happenings was entirely too much of a stretch, imo. Completely controlling a high security facility, tying up men to be dropped in the ocean, transporting to the Holmes' estate... goes way beyond just headstones. Even with Moriarty involved in the past to record messages, his hand would not have stretched so far into the future. And this is the problem I have with Steven Moffat, both in Doctor Who and now Sherlock. Instead of putting together something originally clever and riveting (like the show did the first two seasons), he crosses over into the patently ridiculous, as if to prove people will still watch it no matter what. Because, it's Sherlock (or DW). It's icky and a tad manipulative and takes advantage of its cult/fandom following. Of course, it's just a show, and the worst he can do is jump the shark and waste 90 minutes of my time thrice every few years. And occasionally on Christmas. Still, I had very high hopes for a puzzle that would twist and turn its way to a satisfying ending. Instead, it was slapped together moments of mortal peril, hand-waving solutions, with a few nice character moments to dangle in front of us until the end. Boy I have stronger feelings about this than I expected. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 The first two seasons showed a Sherlock who was certainly smarter and more observant than all of us, but we. like Watson, could understand how he did it after it was explained to us. But really, those shows relied on Conan Doyle for the basic plots and even to some extent the solutions but with some modern updates. But once they veered from Conan Doyle's mysteries it seems like the writers couldn't come up with original plots and solutions that still kept to the original character as created by Doyle. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 And this is the problem I have with Steven Moffat, both in Doctor Who and now Sherlock. Instead of putting together something originally clever and riveting (like the show did the first two seasons), he crosses over into the patently ridiculous, as if to prove people will still watch it no matter what. Because, it's Sherlock (or DW). It's icky and a tad manipulative and takes advantage of its cult/fandom following. Of course, it's just a show, and the worst he can do is jump the shark and waste 90 minutes of my time thrice every few years. And occasionally on Christmas. Still, I had very high hopes for a puzzle that would twist and turn its way to a satisfying ending. Instead, it was slapped together moments of mortal peril, hand-waving solutions, with a few nice character moments to dangle in front of us until the end. Boy I have stronger feelings about this than I expected. LOL thanks for saying all that, it really sums up my feelings, too! Plus, I am more than a little indignant that Molly didn't get a proper apology. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Stressful and stupid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 They have not decided whether or not there will be a Series 5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking Squirrels Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 LOTS OF SPOILERS I really liked it. Admittedly there was hardly any of the Sherlock that we fell in love with in the beginning, all of the lightening speed deductions. There was bits of it, like when he decoded the rhyme, but not what we're used to. But I'm okay with that. I think a character has to grow and change and so does a show. We would all be less and less impressed if it was just the same story of super quick deductions and he saves the day. This one was very much a character episode. It was about family and the past and coming to terms with his own humanity. I loved when they trolled Mycroft in the beginning, that was just awesome! I was nearly giddy when Moriarty showed up, even knowing it was probably a flashback. AS is one of my favorite actors and I felt his character was gone too soon. I was on the edge of my seat through most of the episode. I thought it was touching when Sherlock finally said those words to Molly. You could hear the meaning change each time. From mechanical to letting himself feel that he was hurting his friend. I would have preferred a bit more resolution there. He hugged John last episode, we should have gotten to see him hugging Molly with or without hearing a verbal apology. Looking forward to analyzing it more after a second viewing. I always watch episodes of Sherlock a second time after 2-3 days and the season again sometime within a few months. :D I hope it's not the end, but I expect it to be quite a while before we see more. I have never seen definitive word that it's over. I believe I read somewhere once that they would love it to continue for many years, it just won't be an ongoing thing, it will be when they can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I can finally open this thread!!! I absolutely loved it. Yes, there are some things I would fix/change, but I was on the edge of my seat the whole time, and I liked the surprises. I guessed the girl was the sister, but not in the way it was. Dh guessed Redbeard, but we both assumed it would be "the fourth" that was much discussed, and a twin, to boot. I was very surprised when it wasn't. Dh also guessed Mycroft's attempt to have himself picked *just before it got truly obvious, making me feel slow. :-p I didn't care for the way the gravestone puzzle was slapped together. And I hated the parents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulycrabby Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 http://newsthump.com/2017/01/16/missing-persons-case-opened-after-sherlock-writer-vanishes-up-his-own-arse/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking Squirrels Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I can finally open this thread!!! I absolutely loved it. Yes, there are some things I would fix/change, but I was on the edge of my seat the whole time, and I liked the surprises. I guessed the girl was the sister, but not in the way it was. Dh guessed Redbeard, but we both assumed it would be "the fourth" that was much discussed, and a twin, to boot. I was very surprised when it wasn't. Dh also guessed Mycroft's attempt to have himself picked *just before it got truly obvious, making me feel slow. :-p I didn't care for the way the gravestone puzzle was slapped together. And I hated the parents. They are BC's real parents! :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 http://newsthump.com/2017/01/16/missing-persons-case-opened-after-sherlock-writer-vanishes-up-his-own-arse/ Omg I just spit out my coffee. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 http://newsthump.com/2017/01/16/missing-persons-case-opened-after-sherlock-writer-vanishes-up-his-own-arse/ "...a full collection of the original books..." Bwahahahahahahahaha!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny_Weatherwax Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I was finally able to catch up while babying a tennis injury sustained this afternoon. I thought the final two episodes were both meh, definitely not the caliber of the first two seasons. I still become teary eyed thinking about Watson beseeching Sherlock to "not be dead." Why, oh why, did the writers depart from that? I was happy that the strange relationship between Watson and the girl on the bus was explained. Knowing he was manipulated makes it a bit easier to tolerate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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