Alenee Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) Just looking to find out what the spread is of the members of the board. No debate intended, really. :) Edited November 22, 2011 by Alenee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asta Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I run with the Roman Catholics. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) Evolution does not teach that humans are descended from monkeys. So, if #1 is meant to imply that humans are descended from monkeys, then nobody should be voting for it. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat02.html Creationism and evolution are not incompatible ideas. http://www.answersincreation.org http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-god.html I voted other. Edited November 22, 2011 by Mrs Mungo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lulubelle Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 old earth. not sure where humans came from - not enough evidence either way. maybe someday we will know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaNZ Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 In my opinion, your poll reflects a very narrow view of the debate - that discussed by North American Christians. I can see you guys getting bogged down in this all the time,and yet I never hear it from anybody else. For me: creation? Absolutely! Young earth, old earth etc etc ad nauseum? I neither know nor care because God in His infinite wisdom chose not to make this clear to us. We can worship God just as well, and probably better, not knowing. I answered other in your poll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other. Big Bang and evolution - the actual theory of evolution, not humans-as-monkeys as implied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onceuponatime Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) I'm really interested to see if anyone chooses young earth, evolution. Of course, compared to the rest of the universe, the earth is young, right? ;-) I believe that current rigorous scientific evidence fits the scenario that the earth is billions of years old and all of life on it today is related in some way. I also believe in a first cause and a guiding "hand." I can't help it. Edited November 22, 2011 by Onceuponatime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Evolution does not teach that humans are descended from monkeys. So, if #1 is meant to imply that humans are descended from monkeys, then nobody should be voting for it. Ah good point there. I did not catch the "Humans were not monkeys" in the poll options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 In my opinion, your poll reflects a very narrow view of the debate - that discussed by North American Christians. I can see you guys getting bogged down in this all the time,and yet I never hear it from anybody else. For me: creation? Absolutely! :iagree: Most people I know IRL believe in theistic evolution which is a form of creationism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepyl Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I picked young Earth Creation, bit I could have picked other. I believe in Creation, but I am not specifically YE or OE. It was never a topic of conversation in my church growing up and the first place I hears the terms was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty in Pink Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I believe in thiestic evolution and voted 'other' in the poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melora in NC Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I voted other for the same reason Mrs. Mungo explained already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsey Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I voted OE, Evolution. But, as has been said earlier, evolution doesn't mean that humans descended from monkeys. I don't think you'd find an evolutionary scientist who would make such a claim. It's simply untrue and a very common error in the way that creationists think regarding the issue. So. . . I could have voted for either of the OE possibilities you gave, but I assumed you simply made the common error and so I voted for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Maybe the poll would work better if it looked more like this? Old earth, evolution, no Creator Old earth, evolution, Creator Old earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator Old earth, no evolution, Creator Young earth, no Creator Young earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator Young earth, no evolution, Creator Other religious origins belief Just other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kewb Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other. I believe in old earth and evolution. I also believe that just because I believe in evolution doesn't mean that there is no G-d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other. Theistic evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momma aimee Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 i believe that teh 7 days of creation were not 7 24 hour days as we expereince them. I bvleive God did literally creat the world, creat Adam and Eve, destory all but Noah .... But I do not think the orginal creation was 7 human 24 hour days -- I blieve in adaptation of animals, and people, -- i remember a species of butterfies in the industrual revlution that changes color over time due to the change in their enviornemnt. I believe in, accept, specilaization -- i do not believe "darwin" eveloution where everything can from some random one cell of goo floating in water -- I believe in a creator (God) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other - old earth, evolution, no creator. Evolution doesn't say we came from monkeys, so I couldn't vote for that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraphina Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other, I believe in Theistic evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Maybe the poll would work better if it looked more like this? Old earth, evolution, no Creator Old earth, evolution, Creator Old earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator Old earth, no evolution, Creator Young earth, no Creator Young earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator Young earth, no evolution, Creator Other religious origins belief Just other Why not redo the poll? Those options would be more descriptive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Why not redo the poll? Those options would be more descriptive. Okay, I will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I didn't answer the poll, but we believe in science. That means, obviously, that we believe that our planet is billions of years old, and that evolution, as the only accepted scientific theory covering its subject matter, explains the biological processes it claims to explain. Anything else lacks a scientific basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvasMom Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 old earth. not sure where humans came from - not enough evidence either way. maybe someday we will know for sure. We do know for sure. We have DNA evidence. Google the Human Genome Project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 More specific poll here: http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326507 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrappyhomeschooler Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I voted other. I wasn't here when the earth began, so there's no way I can know how long the earth has been here. I do believe that living things evolve and adapt to new environments. Could a creator have instigated the whole process? I would not rule that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cera Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other. Big Bang and evolution - the actual theory of evolution, not humans-as-monkeys as implied. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytwomonkeys Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 creation. young earth. micro not macro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiCO Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Maybe the poll would work better if it looked more like this? Old earth, evolution, no Creator Old earth, evolution, Creator Old earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator Old earth, no evolution, Creator Young earth, no Creator Young earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator Young earth, no evolution, Creator Other religious origins belief Just other I like this poll better. If I was motivated, I might make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabel Lee Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Young earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator (I voted "other" in the main poll but this is what I'd have voted if it were available). ...but I am not all-knowing so I believe there is room for human error on my part. The Creator part is non-negotiable for me though. I don't feel as though science and Scripture necessarily conflict; sometimes it seems to me as if they explain each other, to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandsam Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I believe in the Big Bang, and a combination of evolution and creation. In my opinion, these are not incompatible. Evolution is taking place all around us, every day. But whether we decended from the apes, I'm not sure. If we did evolve from the apes, I believe it was by design - not chance. There has been scientific evidence of evolution in certain stages of the past (dinosaurs to birds, as a weak example since nothing better is coming to mind at the moment) - but humans cannot be traced all the way back. It is as much of a stretch to believe we evolved from the start of time as it is to believe there was a creator. Now I'm going to read everyone's replies. This is a hugely fascinating topic for me, and I am genuinely interested to read what everyone believes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammie Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Maybe the poll would work better if it looked more like this? Old earth, evolution, no Creator Old earth, evolution, Creator Old earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator Old earth, no evolution, Creator Young earth, no Creator Young earth, micro but not macro evolution, Creator Young earth, no evolution, Creator Other religious origins belief Just other Yes, this. Old earth, evolution, Creator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Old earth and theistic evolution. I also do not think it matters in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Old earth, evolution. But I won't completely disregard the possibility of some sort of greater force out there that may be influential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I voted for young earth creation. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeannpal Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Evolution does not teach that humans are descended from monkeys. So, if #1 is meant to imply that humans are descended from monkeys, then nobody should be voting for it. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat02.html Creationism and evolution are not incompatible ideas. http://www.answersincreation.org http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-god.html I voted other. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 HTH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science#Experimentation_and_hypothesizing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onceuponatime Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I would be interested to know the name of one Christian physicist/astronomer who believes in a young earth, and has published his views on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trish Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other. Big Bang and evolution - the actual theory of evolution, not humans-as-monkeys as implied. Didn't the Big Bang scientist later disavow his own theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukeswife Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other. Big Bang and evolution - the actual theory of evolution, not humans-as-monkeys as implied. :iagree: This is me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegGuheert Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I would be interested to know the name of one Christian physicist/astronomer who believes in a young earth, and has published his views on the subject.Dr. Russell Humphreys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 This is somewhat my thinking as well, although I am more of a theistic microevolutionist rather than a theistic macro evolutionist. Dawn Old earth and theistic evolution. I also do not think it matters in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Dr. Russell Humphreys But he's not a real working physicist, is he? He seems to work for Creation Ministries. When's the last (or any) time that he published research supporting his religious beliefs in a peer-reviewed, accepted scientific journal? When's the last time he worked for any non-religious organization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebug42 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Another vote for theistic evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virg Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I am a creationist. YE or OE doesn't really matter to me. I think it is fun to debate and to investigate but it has no real bearing on my spiritual or physical life. I don't stress or worry about either one. God didn't make it clear so it must not be too important for us to know :) I voted other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathmom Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I chose other because I don't know the age of the earth. I believe in creation and do not believe that macroevolution exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alenee Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 I specifically wrote the poll to reflect what I hear people say about "monkeys" (because whether it's scientific or not, people do believe it!) and if you don't believe that, that's why I added other. I wasn't writing the poll to cover every scientific option. Again, that's why there was an "other" option. To the pp near the top, this wasn't and isn't about a creation/evolution debate. This was just to garner a rough idea of the varying beliefs, Christian or not. Oh, and I voted "other". I believe God created everything but when or how it all came to be, down to the smallest detail, I don't know and I don't find it helpful to debate it either. What I do find helpful is to realize that there are a ton of different beliefs on this and that narrow thinking, like, "well doesn't everybody believe this?!" is, well, narrow. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfunnybunch Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other. I believe the universe was created by God. I don't know how or how long ago, nor do I care. Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise in Florida Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Other. I believe the universe was created by God. I don't know how or how long ago, nor do I care. Cat :iagree: I lean toward old earth, evolution with a Creator God, but the key is Creator God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emubird Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 :iagree: Most people I know IRL believe in theistic evolution which is a form of creationism. But one doesn't "believe" in evolution. It's not a creed. It's just that that's where the scientific evidence points. Now one might make an argument that one "believes" in the scientific method, as opposed to other ways of knowing, but the idea of saying one "believes" in evolution is frankly just odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyofsixreboot Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Evolution, OE BUT intelligent design at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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