Aubrey Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 ever again. I'm not sure if I can say more than that now, I'm shaking & crying so bad. I'm "very pregnant." That's the diagnosis. They sent me home w/ the IV in my arm a few min ago--after 10 hours waiting. That's the good part. And the baby's probably fine. Because, you know, it's in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvasMom Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug: Don't know what happened so just hugs for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 ever again. I'm not sure if I can say more than that now, I'm shaking & crying so bad. I'm "very pregnant." That's the diagnosis. They sent me home w/ the IV in my arm a few min ago--after 10 hours waiting. That's the good part. And the baby's probably fine. Because, you know, it's in there. Sounds like a very unfun way to spend the night. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skissugar Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm glad you are ok and the baby is okay... But my jaw dropped when you said went home with iv still in arm and 10 hrs of waiting!! Omg! I think I would be complaining to someone at that hospital... I always figure 4-5 hrs but 10 hrs? That's too much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallorie Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) (((hugs))) I'm sitting here in shock that they sent you home with an IV in your arm? Honey, you went to a bad ER, need to get to a different one, or call your regular doc the minute they open. They should not have sent you home in that condition. Is your husband or someone with you? Can you go to a different facility? I know you're scared, but something doesn't sound right. Don't let the fear hold you from getting care, you just need to stay away from THAT ER. Edited April 28, 2011 by Mallorie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissel Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Oh Aubrey :grouphug: That's what I was thinking when I read your other thread--you'd probably be waiting until you could just call your midwife anyway. My only experiences with ERs have involved wait times that should be illegal. I can't believe they sent you home with an IV!!! :confused: How is that even possible? I'm so sorry :grouphug: Nothing like piling on a little more stress right now. I hope you can get a little sleep and some reassurance from your midwife later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmosis Mom Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Hope all the best for Aubrey, poor thing. And congratulations of course. A baby is always a blessing. I only choose ERs at nice hospitals even if it means I have to go further. I often have used (when needed!!) the ER at a small Catholic hospital as opposed to the local one in a not-so-nice town. We have maximum been there 4-5 hours and that was for dh who needed several tests done. Other than that, in and out, thank God. Hope you follow up with a mw or something, Aubrey, so you can bond with the baby. I know I did not have health insurance with my last baby and did not see someone until after 14 weeks (when I finally went to a free clinic -at another Catholic hospital!! and got an ultrasound which reassurred me!) and then I felt I could start bonding. Bonding is so, so important and helps prevent ppd, imo. Please, slow down, and take care of yourself. Don't stress over things that are out of your control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaney Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 You poor thing! We have a good ER here and I am thankful. It also helps to be friends with my OB and one of the ER nurses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularMom Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 the baby's probably fine. Because, you know, it's in there. This is an unprofessional, not to mention condescending, diagnosis for the symptoms you described yesterday. If that's what they told you when they sent you home, you must contact a different doctor or midwife as soon as possible. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I speak from unhappy experience. You don't want to know the details. You do not have the "megrims". You are not a "flighty unpredictable pregnant lady." This is not happening all in your head. Don't let them treat you like this. Listen to your gut and take care of yourself and your little one. (((((((hugs))))))) but don't let this drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forMe Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 When I had to go to the ER with past pregnancies for severe dehydration, I was treated poorly. I think ER's in general hate pregnant women. It is sad, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm sorry Aubrey. Pls call your regular provider now--don't wait until she's "open," she probably has voice mail or an answering service for emergencies. If not, leave a message and try back asap. We have one ER here that we won't go to--they have a monopoly on Drs there--you have to use that Dr even if he isn't on your insurance, and we are fighting a bill. Sending you lots of hugs. Just don't hunker down right now, sweet friend--go get more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen in PA Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffe Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm so sorry Aubrey. I hope your midwife can give you reassurance and everything's ok. I pray the bleeding was no big deal and that the doctors/nurses who sent you home rot. Hugs, Hopscotch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Did they do an ultrasound or check your urine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Keeper Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm sorry for your bad experience; I am glad that you are doing all you can to take care of you and your little one. I hope that your follow up visit with the midwife/doctor will go much better. :) Praying for you during this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny_Weatherwax Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug: I am so sorry you are going through this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin's Song Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoforjoy Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 When I had to go to the ER with past pregnancies for severe dehydration, I was treated poorly. I think ER's in general hate pregnant women. It is sad, really. This is the impression I get, too. I know that after 20 weeks my practice wants us to bypass the ER for any issues and go directly to L&D (which is a MUCH better experience), and for most things they'd rather have us wait and come in for an early appointment the next day than use the ER. I think the ER, while maybe not actively hostile to pregnant women, just isn't well equipped to deal with them or with pregnancy issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm sorry you had a bad time. Here, the ER sends to to Obstetrics when you're in your 2nd trimester. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariannNOVA Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I am so sorry - only once did I have to go to an ER after an auto accident when I was pg with the twins -- the ER attending wouldn't do an u/s b/c: (his words) if they didn't survive the accident there was nothing he could do about it. Yes, he said that. I went to my doc's office and they took me right in. It was Atlantic City Medical Center - downtown. Everywhere else I have gone, I have been treated well. Sibley in Georgetown is the BEST!!!!!!!!! I'm sorry Aubrey.:grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snickelfritz Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I lost a baby at 18 weeks and I had a horrible experience in the ER. So, no, I don't think your ER was particularly bad. I just don't think they are truly set up to handle early pregnancy problems and they don't send you to the OB floor until you are 20 weeks. I have relatives that work in ER/trauma areas and I know they do have a desire to help people and they have their own struggles (habitual ER users that know the catch phrases to be seen faster, people coming in with colds, etc.....) :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katiebug_1976 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Congrats on the baby! Babies are such blessings! I'm sorry you had an awful experience at the er. I don't think we have ever had a pleasant or uneventful trip to the er, but what you're describing is inexcusable!!! You should never have been sent home w/ and IV still in your arm! I would definately call you mw & then complain to the hospital (with that kind of treatment, they should pay your bill!!!)! I hope all is well, and I will be praying for you and your baby. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Oh no! The ERs I have been too are all great. Out of the 10 hospitals in my area, I will only go to two, but those two are wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbalgirl Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug: When I was going through my m/c last July, I called my midwife first and she said to go directly to L & D, even though I was 10 weeks along, because I would be treated better and faster there. I am sorry you had to deal with what you did. Please call your midwife ASAP this morning. I agree, don't wait until you think she's open, leave a msg. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyP Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug: I'm praying everything is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Peach Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 :grouphug: I am sorry. I hope you can get some (real) answers soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claire+3 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Hi Aubrey.:grouphug: I'm very sorry for you. I completely empathize and like you I will never go to the ER again. I've had 3 live healthy home births and 3 m/cs, all naturally occurring. My midwife is a direct-entry midwife and does not do ultrasounds. So with 2 out of 3 of my m/cs I called up a practice that has 2 OBS and 3 CNMs. I got a lecture from the Administrative Assistant about not having any previous pre-natal care, but once I got past her, the midwives and OB who did the ultrasound were really kind. Do you have anything like that where you live? I find that the practices that contain both CNMs and OBs are the most helpful. They got me in right away. Good luck to you. Sending positive thoughts and prayers your way, Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzymom Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm so sorry you had such a terrible experience when you most needed care & comfort. :grouphug::grouphug:Prayers for both you & your little one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I am so sorry. Sounds like our worthless hospital. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine_librarian Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I was sent to an ER when I was 6 or 7 months pregnant with my oldest dc because I had "Scarlet Fever." After 5 hours in the ER and not seeing anyone my husband and I decided I must not be that sick and went home. My only positive experience with an ER around here was at the children's hospital. And that was a 45 minute drive from my home - I think I probably passed 10 other hospitals to take my ds2 there. I hope your midwife will be able to help you and am so sorry about this emotional turmoil. Our midwife does universal billing (is that the correct term?), files with the insurance from date of delivery. So this early if you anticipated having insurance by the time the baby came you could probably get away with just a minimal downpayment to begin your prenatal care from this point forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mejane Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Yikes. What does your husband say? Mine acted like a maniac once when someone in an ER tried to blow me off (I was not pg, but bleeding profusely from a wound.) He threatened to sue, and that got everyone moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Oh dear...I'm sorry.:grouphug: Now I'm wondering which one you went to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Oh Aubrey :grouphug: That's what I was thinking when I read your other thread--you'd probably be waiting until you could just call your midwife anyway. My only experiences with ERs have involved wait times that should be illegal. I can't believe they sent you home with an IV!!! :confused: How is that even possible? Because they were so busy yelling at me for not having prenatal care before now, ridiculing the fact that I've used a mw, gaping at the gross error of not taking prenatal vitamins, telling me NEVER to come back there again because they wouldn't help me. Who has time to pull out an iv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kchara Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 They sent you home with an IV still in your arm?? Really??? Oh my word. :grouphug::grouphug: Call your provider ASAP, hon. I'm so sorry you had to deal with that all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Because they were so busy yelling at me for not having prenatal care before now, ridiculing the fact that I've used a mw, gaping at the gross error of not taking prenatal vitamins, telling me NEVER to come back there again because they wouldn't help me. Who has time to pull out an iv? How is that even LEGAL for them to tell you they wouldn't provide care? WTH?! :cursing: I'd be contacting the hospital admin. No way would I let this pass unchallenged. I might never be there again, but other women will be. Holy crapola. I've *never* heard of such treatment in my life. I've heard of idiots, "Sorry, you're in your first trimester, we can't do anything..." but abuse? WTH?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Hope all the best for Aubrey, poor thing. And congratulations of course. A baby is always a blessing. I only choose ERs at nice hospitals even if it means I have to go further. I often have used (when needed!!) the ER at a small Catholic hospital as opposed to the local one in a not-so-nice town. We have maximum been there 4-5 hours and that was for dh who needed several tests done. Other than that, in and out, thank God. Hope you follow up with a mw or something, Aubrey, so you can bond with the baby. I know I did not have health insurance with my last baby and did not see someone until after 14 weeks (when I finally went to a free clinic -at another Catholic hospital!! and got an ultrasound which reassurred me!) and then I felt I could start bonding. Bonding is so, so important and helps prevent ppd, imo. Please, slow down, and take care of yourself. Don't stress over things that are out of your control. They turned the computer away from me so I couldn't see the u/s. They turned the sound off. They didn't say two words to me while I was in there. I assumed that the dr had to report the findings of the u/s. She didn't even have a chart w/ her--asked when she came in (over 5 hrs after the u/s), "So what brings you into the ER today?" & "So you're not allergic to anything..." (I was wearing a red armband & it was in my file. No clue.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Because they were so busy yelling at me for not having prenatal care before now, ridiculing the fact that I've used a mw, gaping at the gross error of not taking prenatal vitamins, telling me NEVER to come back there again because they wouldn't help me. Who has time to pull out an iv? Oh. my. word. I would be making a phone call followed by a letter. Get hold of some administrator. They should not have berated you, ridiculed you, nor are they legally allowed to refuse you care. They also were negligent, fussing at you over minor things, ignoring the current issue, and then not even removing an IV before you left (major no-no). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraGB Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Because they were so busy yelling at me for not having prenatal care before now, ridiculing the fact that I've used a mw, gaping at the gross error of not taking prenatal vitamins, telling me NEVER to come back there again because they wouldn't help me. Who has time to pull out an iv? What?! I didn't even know they could do that! Can you call and report this? That's crazy! :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saille Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) Aubrey, I am very disturbed by this. Please call your primary care provider right away. If you don't have one, call the hospital and ask for the ombudsman or the patient rights advocate and explain the situation. Common causes of bleeding in the second trimester include: placenta previa (placenta blocking the cervix) placental detachment cervical infection or growths miscarriage pre-term labor Some of these are treatable, but not if the doctor screws around and refuses to treat you. Please see someone today, no matter what you have to do. Kick and scream. Bring someone with you to kick and scream for you. Please keep us updated. ETA that I just saw your last post, and the things they did could easily get someone fired. I don't know where the heck they are, that they can be so sheltered as to never have seen a second-tri woman without prenatal care who isn't on vitamins, but boo-freaking-hoo. They still have to do their jobs, and they can advocate for care, but they have no business acting the way they acted. Get the patients' rights advocate, ombudsman, EAP or someone involved right away, so they can't do this to anyone else. To figure out anything major, your mw is going to need their resources. I predict you need to go through the L&D/Obstetrics department, not the ER at all. When I had complications with my third, I went straight to them (I used lay midwives.) Edited April 28, 2011 by Saille Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaKinVA Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm so sorry... about all of this! I would ask if you are in Stafford County, and did you go to Mary Washington Hospital... but I know better. Yeah, our ER's here STINK. I was sent by urgent care 2 weeks ago to the ER, because when I ate, my throat felt like it was on-fire and it was swelling up. My symptoms dissipated, and the ER sent me home, without doing anything. Gave me grief for bothering them (I was SENT by a DOCTOR). I'm with you, ERs STINK. :HUGS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Aubrey, I am very disturbed by this. Please call your primary care provider right away. If you don't have one, call the hospital and ask for the ombudsman or the patient rights advocate and explain the situation. Common causes of bleeding in the second trimester include: placenta previa (placenta blocking the cervix) placental detachment cervical infection or growths miscarriage pre-term labor Some of these are treatable, but not if the doctor screws around and refuses to treat you. Please see someone today, no matter what you have to do. Kick and scream. Bring someone with you to kick and scream for you. Please keep us updated. :iagree::iagree::iagree: Do whatever it takes, but don't let them get away with treating you and the baby this way. Their "treatment" is unacceptable, unprofessional, and immoral, and they MUST be called on it, and you MUST be properly seen and properly treated.:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin's Song Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 What???!!! Wow. And then they didn't even give you the ultrasound results??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 This is an unprofessional, not to mention condescending, diagnosis for the symptoms you described yesterday. If that's what they told you when they sent you home, you must contact a different doctor or midwife as soon as possible. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I speak from unhappy experience. You don't want to know the details. You do not have the "megrims". You are not a "flighty unpredictable pregnant lady." This is not happening all in your head. Don't let them treat you like this. Listen to your gut and take care of yourself and your little one. (((((((hugs))))))) but don't let this drop. They were very condescending. They took me to do an internal exam & made me undress from the waist down. No gown, nothing. Just stand there & wait while the bed. gets. made. When I wasn't thrilled w/ that, I was asked if I'd ever had an internal exam, was this my first baby. Very condescending. That's when the mw & birthcenter came up. Apparently, if you have any shred of inhibition, you're an uneducated IDIOT. At that point, w/out tmi, there was *significant* evidence of a problem. I was told nothing about the exam except that I would now be released. Even I forgot about the IV under those conditions. I managed not to cry until I checked out, found out the "down payment" for the services, and was literally told to leave. Ils came to stay w/ the kids but had to leave around 1 or 2 AM, so by the time I got back to the dr, I was alone. I had to leave the hospital in a t-shirt & jeans in the wee morning hours of a 45 degree night in downtown FW to wait for dh. At that point, I cried. There was some kind of gang issue while I was in the waiting room. They all came flooding into the area where I was sitting, to hide from the police & discuss who had killed who & cuss ea other out over cigarettes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Did they do an ultrasound or check your urine? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kchara Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Because they were so busy yelling at me for not having prenatal care before now, ridiculing the fact that I've used a mw, gaping at the gross error of not taking prenatal vitamins, telling me NEVER to come back there again because they wouldn't help me. Who has time to pull out an iv? We posted at the same time... but... I'd get on the phone to a lawyer and to the hospital's Patient Advocacy rep IMMEDIATELY. Every hospital has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin's Song Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I can't believe they had the nerve to bill you. How can they charge you for care they didn't provide? Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I can't believe they had the nerve to bill you. How can they charge you for care they didn't provide? Unbelievable. Fight this also. And I have also never heard of having a patient stand there, half nude, and never a gown provided. The more I hear, the more I'm thinking that this place is trying to get away with providing as little care as possible (I've known ER's like this and they should be shut down or overhauled!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 We posted at the same time... but... I'd get on the phone to a lawyer and to the hospital's Patient Advocacy rep IMMEDIATELY. Every hospital has one. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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