creekmom Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 My friends tell me I really need to read this book, but I don't handle any kind of pain done to children well at all. - Not to spoil the book for anyone, but I know it involves the stuff of nightmares for parents. Can I skip this part? Is it truly worth reading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quad Shot Academy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Nope, don't read it. There is no skipping over the bad part. I deeply regret reading that book and I will never take book recommendations from the friends that told me over and over for years that I had to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Worse book ever terrible theology horrid writing sickening happening to someone's baby girl at the center of it all don't read it Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I enjoyed the book, viewing it as the fiction it is meant to be but you wouldn't be able to skip over the horrors, and still get much from the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeBookBread Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 From a Christian perspective, there is too much questionable theology for me to consider this book read-worthy. I know it's fiction, but the author himself said that wanted to write a book to explain theology to his children. So when people compare it to The DaVinci Code, or other books that question centuries-old Christian orthodoxy, there is no comparison. This book review written by Tim Challies explains the concerns. Click the "download here" button to view the PDF. Tim Challies is a Top 100 reviewer on Amazon, FWIW, and very respected Christian blogger. Additionally, if you click here and scroll down to the "Apologetics" section of this page, you'll see 5 more resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Don't read it. That plot point is central to the story, and there isn't really a way to avoid it, since there isn't one particular scene to skip over. I didn't love it or hate it, but it's definitely not a must-read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I LOVVEEEDD that book. Yes, it made me cry, but it also really hammered down some deeply entrenched stereotypes I had been dealing with. Caveat -I was going through a period of trying to find the feminine in the Institutional Church's masculine God. And I still am (which is another reason I left denominational churches), but that book was my oasis in a very dry place. I loved it, bought copies to give to friends and my Aunt came to be a Christian by it! It's a fantastic book. Read it for yourself before you take anyone's interpretation of it as your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melinda in VT Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I'd skip the book. It's hard to skip the part you want to avoid, and the book frankly isn't worth that much effort. To me, there was nothing there in terms of theology that you can't find somewhere else written much better. Just in terms of sentence construction, this is the worst book I read this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melinda in VT Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I LOVVEEEDD that book. Yes, it made me cry, but it also really hammered down some deeply entrenched stereotypes I had been dealing with. Caveat -I was going through a period of trying to find the feminine in the Institutional Church's masculine God. And I still am (which is another reason I left denominational churches), but that book was my oasis in a very dry place. I loved it, bought copies to give to friends and my Aunt came to be a Christian by it! It's a fantastic book. Read it for yourself before you take anyone's interpretation of it as your own. Have you read Dance of the Dissident Daughter by Sue Monk Kidd? I highly recommend it if you are exploring the Divine Feminine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) Read it for yourself before you take anyone's interpretation of it as your own. The book does not fall within the OP's stated parameters for content, regardless of any of our personal views of its theology. Edited December 15, 2009 by WordGirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katemary63 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I read it. I do not recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneRoomSchoolHouse Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I am currently 2/3 of the way through the book. It is very depressing and a very hard read for me. The only reason I have continued to press on is that I am interested in the theology aspect. I like to see how others interpret God, the Trinity, etc. There have been several things that I don't agree with. Like others have said, if you don't like to read about bad things done to children...don't read this book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I read it. To be honest, while the part about the man's daughter was horrifying, it was not the most disturbing part for me. The entire story made me shake my head at the end. I am just not sure it is worth reading - especially if you are sensitive to the details about the child. In the middle of the book, it retells what happened to her and how it all happened (as in how she was taken, how he turned his back for just a second...). I had nightmares for weeks just remembering the scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjones Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I share your concerns about the book, and have decided not to read it. I have had people actually seem angry and offended when I've told them I do not plan to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 My friends tell me I really need to read this book, but I don't handle any kind of pain done to children well at all. - Not to spoil the book for anyone, but I know it involves the stuff of nightmares for parents. Can I skip this part? Is it truly worth reading? I'm skipping it. I don't want to have images, storyline, etc in my mind about the child. Someone else can tell me about the theology parts they were interested in. :) I also did not see the Passion of Christ. Had my mother upbraid me for that. Sorry, no thanks. If my husband had been tortured to death to protect me would I want to watch it on a movie? Nope. I didn't want to watch Christ tortured either. Only one person I know who was profoundly moved by it at first sustained a changed life because of it. No graphic stuff for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I'm skipping it. I don't want to have images, storyline, etc in my mind about the child. Someone else can tell me about the theology parts they were interested in. :) I also did not see the Passion of Christ. Had my mother upbraid me for that. Sorry, no thanks. If my husband had been tortured to death to protect me would I want to watch it on a movie? Nope. I didn't want to watch Christ tortured either. Only one person I know who was profoundly moved by it at first sustained a changed life because of it. No graphic stuff for me! I still wish to this day that I had never watched The Passion and never will again, though I don't usually admit that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I haven't read it and don't intend to, again because of the theology issue. I hang around with mostly very well read and studied liberal Christians and amongst them it's got a bad reputation as well. I think the value of the book is something a lot of Christians, from liberal to conservative can unite on.:) I get the feeling it's appeal is mostly to cultural Christians or occasional churchers who aren't really familiar with much thoughtful Christian theology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I get the feeling it's appeal is mostly to cultural Christians or occasional churchers who aren't really familiar with much thoughtful Christian theology. Wow. That's quite a generalization and is not true in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekmom Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 Thanks for the advice. Since I've had children, I'm soooo sensitive to that kind of stuff. I remember watching the Titanic (pre kids), and it was sad, but it didn't upset me. I can't imagine watching the movie now with the children trapped on the bottom floors, and the water filling up.... nope- can't handle that!! I'll skip the book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medieval Mom Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Why didn't I read this thread BEFORE starting The Shack???? A friend of mine gave me the book, telling me I HAD to read it; in fact, her mother has purchased DOZENS of copies to give away to friends, etc. Ugh:confused: I can not read another page of such DRIVEL!!!!!! Life is too short, and my scant reading time just too precious, for this book. I rarely leave a book unfinished once begun, but I simply cannot finish this one. :ack2: Just goes to show-- I should check all decisions in life with the Hive first. ;) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Putting aside the theology issues, it was poorly written, and what happened to the little girl haunted me for weeks. Even looking it as purely fiction (no theology), it wasn't worth reading. My then 20 yr old dd liked the book and asked me to read it. Otherwise, I probably would never have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Worsebook ever terrible theology horrid writing sickening happening to someone's baby girl at the center of it all don't read it Ever :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ereks mom Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I enjoyed the book, viewing it as the fiction it is meant to be but you wouldn't be able to skip over the horrors, and still get much from the book. :iagree: HOWEVER, be aware that the "horror" part is not described in detail, although the allusions are there. I liked the book, but you have to understand that it is NOT intended to be a theology book, but an allegory of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ereks mom Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Read it for yourself before you take anyone's interpretation of it as your own. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I have not read the book, so no review here. However, the author was sexually abused as a child when his parents and he were missionaries. I can imagine the terrible pain he has carried all these years is somehow represented in this book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susankenny Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 i really enjoyed this book. it's totally fiction, but good! it was a super easy read for me, finished it in a day at the beach last summer. the tragedy is part of the book, but it's not the purpose of the book (healing out of brokenness is the main gist & knowing you don't have to go through it alone). you could probably skim over the first part, picking up the necessary plot, and then just read the latter with what happened in mind. library lover, yes, the author talked about his sexual abuse in an interview. he actually went through years of therapy. this book stemmed after he had an affair on his wife and all of his own tragedy came out during counseling while repairing his own marriage. he says the story of the shack is completely fiction but ever so real for him & was part of his healing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhudson Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Don't read. Thought it had bad, bad, bad theology and gave me nightmares. I didn't think the point of the story justified the bad theology or the horrific story line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susankenny Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Wow. That's quite a generalization and is not true in my experience. LOL. no kidding! Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 From a Christian perspective, there is too much questionable theology for me to consider this book read-worthy. This book review written by Tim Challies explains the concerns. Click the "download here" button to view the PDF. Tim Challies is a Top 100 reviewer on Amazon, FWIW, and very respected Christian blogger. Thanks for linking that! Very well written and interesting (the review I mean!) I have looked at The Shack several times on the shelf and always put it down. I am usually very liberal in my reading, but for some reason I didn't like the sound of it. Based on that review, I'm glad I skipped it. I'm ok with theology I might disagree with, but I don't like it presented in a "sneaky" way. The reviewer described it as "quietly subversive", and I have seen that before in other books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in NS Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 My friends tell me I really need to read this book, but I don't handle any kind of pain done to children well at all. - Not to spoil the book for anyone, but I know it involves the stuff of nightmares for parents. Can I skip this part? Is it truly worth reading? If you're afraid of the nightmarish part, then I wouldn't bother reading it. I don't think it's a "must read" for any other reason. It's a story, and to me, it was a very bothersome story. I agreed to read it for a church small group discussion I was in, but was annoyed that I agreed to it. I get tired of books like this being used for church group discussions - I told my friends in the group I'd rather have read something unrelated and meatier, like The Scarlet Letter I was reading at the time, to discuss, but was asked, "But is that something we could use to pray for each other?" after our discussion. I guess I'm just tired of what I perceived to be Christian pop culture around books like The Shack. It roused emotions that were resolved by different emotions, rather than any solidly thought-out conclusion, IMO. I get the feeling it's appeal is mostly to cultural Christians :iagree: I can't imagine watching the movie now with the children trapped on the bottom floors, and the water filling up.... nope- can't handle that!! I'll skip the book! Nope, then you definitely won't like this book. Read a Shakespeare tragedy instead, lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PollyOR Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 After hearing raves about this book I decided to give it a try. I think it would be impossible to read it without the tragedy sneaking in. I believe God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three separate beings. I realize most Christians believe in the trinity, but I was still hoping to get something from the book. I was lost by the end. I can't say that I regret reading it, but I will say that I came away from it very confused...to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex-mex Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) My MIL gave us this book for Christmas last year. Hubby, an ordained minister, told her flat out he refuses to read the book and explained point for point (i.e. Bible's view on the Trinity vs heresy -- the feminine divine POV in the book.) why he felt that way. Personally, the details of a grisly murder of a child repulses me for recreational reading. Edited October 14, 2010 by tex-mex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Then, please, also do not read The Lovely Bones. Talk about haunting and freaky. It talked about heaven...albeit not in the way I imagine Heaven to be. Neat all the same. However, a child describing her murder and rape from her own POV. NO. Bad. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Interesting thread. I have in in my "read basket" behind me. It was recommended on this forum by several people in a thread about my questioning spirituality. I *hated* the movie The Butterfly Effect because of the implied sexual abuse of children. It disturbed me. I haven't been able to read "true crime" books since having kids even though I used to read them a lot before then. I love forensics but true crime stories usually involve families with children. I'm not usually upset about "bad theology" ;) and so I am guessing that it was recommended because it embraces a theological perspective that would interest me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I'm glad to find out I'm not the only person alive who doesn't like The Shack. :001_smile: I didn't even get far enough to honestly evaluate the theology. I just found the book painfully boring after the guy went to the shack. And the God characters got on my nerves; I couldn't identify with them at all. One part of me wanted to finish the book just because I'd started it, but I finally decided not to waste my time when there are so many other books I want to find time to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simka2 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 As a mom this was a very difficult book to read. As a Christian who has been the victim of a sexual assault, it was wonderful. The comfort it brought from all the deep questions I was asking at the time was wonderful!!! I will say this.... before haveing my faith almost shattered I wouldn't have liked it. After coming to the brink and questioning how God could allow such horrible things to be committed?!! Why doesn't He protect? He's all powerful, right? ...I love it!!! If you decide to read it, read it for what it is. You don't have to judge it against some special theological standard, because it is sold at Christian bookstores ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yucabird Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 A relative gave me a copy last year. It didn’t appeal, but her rave reviews made me feel a little guilty pushing it aside. My MIL, a religious scholar, kindly offered to read it and give me her impressions. She sent me the following: “I waded through the book, with effort. The book of Job tackles the topic with more honesty, without sentimentality, and is an infinitely much better piece of literature!†So I read an Atwood novel instead! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyKapers Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 As a mom this was a very difficult book to read. As a Christian who has been the victim of a sexual assault, it was wonderful. If you decide to read it, read it for what it is. You don't have to judge it against some special theological standard, because it is sold at Christian bookstores ;) :iagree: My 2 cents, which really are probably only worth 1 cent in today's economy;): Since you mentioned things that are sensitive in nature pertaining to children bother you, than I would not recommend reading it. If you are going to read for theological accurateness, than I wouldn't bother. If you like to think outside the box, than read it. It made me think about God in a way I never would have. Yes, there are some solid facts about God, but I think there is so much I don't know. I think I am going to be surprised when I see God face to face. I am limited on my understanding of who God is just because I am human and I see things through my filter of experience. For myself, just because I read something, doesn't mean I have to embrace everything that is written. I can think about it, research stuff Biblically or through other reading, and than keep what is meaningful. I can think of very little reading that I do where I embrace every single idea in it. Even with curriculum :), I take what I think is helpful and use it and let the other stuff go. How he wrote about where God was when we are being hurt was meaningful tome especially because of things that happened in my life while I was growing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in NS Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 “...The book of Job tackles the topic with more honesty, without sentimentality, and is an infinitely much better piece of literature!†Exactly! I wish I'd thought of this when we were tossing around the idea of The Shack for our small group book study. I totally agree with this above quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanne in ABQ Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 This thread is almost a year old. I'm seeing a lot of these old threads pop up today. Troll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 This thread is almost a year old. I'm seeing a lot of these old threads pop up today. Troll? Medieval Mom (who resurrected this thread yesterday) is not a troll but simply regrets not having read this thread and others before she started to read the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 As a mom this was a very difficult book to read. As a Christian who has been the victim of a sexual assault, it was wonderful. The comfort it brought from all the deep questions I was asking at the time was wonderful!!! I will say this.... before haveing my faith almost shattered I wouldn't have liked it. After coming to the brink and questioning how God could allow such horrible things to be committed?!! Why doesn't He protect? He's all powerful, right? ...I love it!!! If you decide to read it, read it for what it is. You don't have to judge it against some special theological standard, because it is sold at Christian bookstores ;) You said it better than I ever could have. I found this book when I was asking God to show me the feminine in God, I was sick of hearing about "Father'' God and sick of the icky patriarchy I had been dealing with. This book was balm to my soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytwomonkeys Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 wow. where's the popcorn icon, lol i liked the book. it was entertaining and thought provoking enough....even if those thoughts roused feelings of injustice, anger, or theological upset in the reader. it's not God's Word, and isn't intended to be. it's just a paperback book in the fiction section of your local bookstore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 A relative gave me a copy last year. It didn’t appeal, but her rave reviews made me feel a little guilty pushing it aside. My MIL, a religious scholar, kindly offered to read it and give me her impressions. She sent me the following: “I waded through the book, with effort. The book of Job tackles the topic with more honesty, without sentimentality, and is an infinitely much better piece of literature!†So I read an Atwood novel instead! :D I have not read the book. It's not really my thing. However, I have to say that Job sets a pretty high standard of never questioning God or His wisdom. I can see the appeal of a book that allows for more human frailty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaissezFaire Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 All I will say is that this the the Number One book on my "worst books of all time" list. Deeply regret starting it (I refused to finish it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medieval Mom Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 This thread is almost a year old. I'm seeing a lot of these old threads pop up today. Troll? Medieval Mom (who resurrected this thread yesterday) is not a troll but simply regrets not having read this thread and others before she started to read the book. Thanks, Jean. :) P.S. Going back into my cave to eat bread made of bones... Humpf... Aroomph... Humpf... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanne in ABQ Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Medieval Mom (who resurrected this thread yesterday) is not a troll but simply regrets not having read this thread and others before she started to read the book. Oh good. I was just concerned because it seems like there are a lot of old threads popping up today. I'm glad to know it wasn't a troll who brought this one to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekmom Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Thanks, Jean. :) P.S. Going back into my cave to eat bread made of bones... Humpf... Aroomph... Humpf... ;) :lol: Just an update from the OP... I never did read the book, but my husband did. He threw the book in our fireplace and told me not to waste my time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I wish I had not read the book. I did NOT start out "accepting" the book as fiction. It portrays itself as true and I was thinking it WAS true until I tried to google some of the details. Then I became skeptical. By the time I came to a tacked on afterward that admitted it was not true, I felt lied to and deceived. Oh and I had nightmares. Nothing was explicit, no. But it was explicit enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in Neverland Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Meh. It was barely an average book. Yeah the theology was bad and the writing equally so but it was the melodrama of the whole thing that irked me. Just so overdone. It did not answer any deep, burning spiritual questions for me and I really thought the whole thing was sort of silly. I didn't get my panties in a twist over it but I also would not recommend it as a "must-read". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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