Lady Florida. Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I've never owned a pair of hiking boots in my life. I grew up in Florida and when I do what passes for hiking here I only need to wear walking shoes, usually Brooks or New Balance. I'm going to visit a friend in Crete next March - her husband is stationed at Souda Bay. She said I need hiking boots with ankle supports because where she plans to take me regular walking shoes/tennis shoes won't cut it. There are two important things. 1. I need to try them on so I don't want to order online, at least not at first. I need to try on and walk around. 2. The places that sell hiking boots are limited here. We have Dick's Sporting Goods, Bass Pro Shops, and Academy Sports & Outdoors. I'm hoping I can find a pair at one of those three places. Are there brands one of those stores sell that you love? Any to stay away from? What in particular should I look for in this type of shoe? Please talk to me like I'm 8 or 10 years old. My footwear of choice is Skechers sandals unless I'm doing something that requires the walking shoes mentioned above. Everyday footwear year round means open toe, open back shoes. I'm new to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottakee Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Any chance you have an REI in driving distance? For members ($20-25 one time fee) they offer 365 day return policy even if you wear the boots hiking and they don’t work. I buy all my hiking shoes there as I have had to return a pair when they didn’t work. They are also good at looking at your feet and watching you walk to find the best pairs to try. in the hiking world they say the best ones are the ones that fit YOU the best. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I'd check REI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ottakee said: Any chance you have an REI in driving distance? For members ($20-25 one time fee) they offer 365 day return policy even if you wear the boots hiking and they don’t work. I buy all my hiking shoes there as I have had to return a pair when they didn’t work. They are also good at looking at your feet and watching you walk to find the best pairs to try. in the hiking world they say the best ones are the ones that fit YOU the best. and if you lost the receipt they can simply look it up on the computer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Just know that unlike hiking shoes, hiking boots need to be broken in. You will also want to buy some hiking socks. As others have mentioned, REI is a great place to shop for them. That’s where I purchased my last pair of hiking shoes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsie Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I think a lot is going to depend upon your feet. I like KEENs, but I have a wide foot and they are about the only hiking boots wide enough for me. My daughter has a much narrower foot and prefers other brands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 The Bass Pro shop here carries more hiking boots than Dicks Sporting Goods. Hiking boots do need to be broken into and also you have to consider how waterproof you would like it to be. Keens and Timberland have been great for my husband in terms of walking in muddy areas and in slush. However, he doesn’t need ankle support and prefers mid cut boots. I prefer my boots high cut with good grip/traction and I need to try in store as my feet have high arches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 No general recommendations possible. It all depends on your foot. Dd, ds and dh love their Merrels and Vasque; identical model gave me excruciating pain. I wear Obosz Bridger and love them. Go to REI. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsheresomewhere Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Keens are great. Some are narrow than the others and fit me better. Merrell has some really nice hiking boots. DH has a wide foot and their wides are fantastic according to him. When I replace mine once they wear out, I am considering the merrells for myself instead of my trusty keens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Echoing the recommendations for going to REI—even if you have to drive quite a bit. We are all in hiking boots here, and we all wear different brands because of fit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I’ve had good luck with Salomon and Scarpa but this is so personal. Like other mentioned, REI or your local outdoor store if they will do returns. I returned 4 pairs to my local store after trying them out, then ordered 7 pairs from REI, returning all but one. However, I’m assuming Crete is hot so I’m going to throw out a different idea. Hiking boots are usually waterproof and make my feet hot. When my feet get hot I am more prone to blisters. Many hikers these days are switching to trail runners. I prefer trail runners unless it’s really cold, really muddy, or really wet. Instead of boots, hiking poles may be a better investment. It will help you be more stable and less likely to twist your ankle. Plus it makes hiking easier on your knees. You can’t carry them on airplanes though, so if you aren’t checking a bag, ignore me. In my group of 5 hiking friends, 2 prefer boots, 2 prefer trail runners, and I’m the only one who wears both. We have hiked several hundred miles together since 2017 and only one person has ever had an ankle injury, one of the boot girls. She’s also the only one who doesn’t use poles. Anyway, just throwing out the idea. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibiche Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Another recommendation to go to REI where someone can help you find what will work. Boots are an investment. If you have small enough feet you can get away with kid’s boots, which are usually much less expensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottakee Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I don’t know the terrain of Crete where you will be but most hikers on the Appalachian trail wear trail runners. Hoka makes a mid high one . Hiking poles are very very helpful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rachel said: I’ve had good luck with Salomon and Scarpa but this is so personal. Like other mentioned, REI or your local outdoor store if they will do returns. I returned 4 pairs to my local store after trying them out, then ordered 7 pairs from REI, returning all but one. However, I’m assuming Crete is hot so I’m going to throw out a different idea. Hiking boots are usually waterproof and make my feet hot. When my feet get hot I am more prone to blisters. Many hikers these days are switching to trail runners. I prefer trail runners unless it’s really cold, really muddy, or really wet. Instead of boots, hiking poles may be a better investment. It will help you be more stable and less likely to twist your ankle. Plus it makes hiking easier on your knees. You can’t carry them on airplanes though, so if you aren’t checking a bag, ignore me. In my group of 5 hiking friends, 2 prefer boots, 2 prefer trail runners, and I’m the only one who wears both. We have hiked several hundred miles together since 2017 and only one person has ever had an ankle injury, one of the boot girls. She’s also the only one who doesn’t use poles. Anyway, just throwing out the idea. This. Personally, I would never choose hiking boots. Even hiking shoes are far better for me and just fine for the majority of hikes. I’d go online and read some of the pros and cons of hiking boots vs hiking shoes vs trail runners. And maybe have your friend give you the names of the some of the actual hikes she is planning so you can do some research in advance before heading to REI or another store. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsie Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Also, good socks can be as important as good shoes. Be sure to try on shoes with socks comparable to the socks you will be wearing with the shoes. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottakee Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bootsie said: Also, good socks can be as important as good shoes. Be sure to try on shoes with socks comparable to the socks you will be wearing with the shoes. Yes look at smart wool or darn tuff socks. I like those bit often wear ininji toe socks for hiking. They feel weird going on but no blisters when hiking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) Crete has some really rocky gorges that are beautiful. She may very well actually need hiking boots. Edited October 29, 2022 by prairiewindmomma 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I have a pair of timberlands that seem like they’re going to outlast me. I just added new insoles after a decade, but the soles are still awesome. I only hike occasionally though; I’m not out there doing the whole appalachain trail or anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 If your feet are wide, I recommend trying Oboz. I've had my pair for years - they've been re-soled once and are going strong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebcoola Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Rei or some place to try some on. I like hokas these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeLovePassion Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 My boots are Keen Targhee 2's I also recommend hiking poles and wool socks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny_Weatherwax Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Before looking at boots, I think you should consider your budget. Are these boots a one time wear purchase? Will you be likely to hike anywhere requiring boots after hiking in Crete? Boots are bulky and heavy and will take up room in your luggage. Will you want to bring them home with you or leave them there and bring home souvenirs instead? If the boots will be one time wear and get donated in Crete, getting less expensive boots from a store closer to you should be fine. Just make certain you break them in well in advance and buy the best socks you can afford. If you think the boots will be an investment for your feet (because that truly is what good quality hiking boots are) and you know you'll bring them home and wear on future excursions, invest in more expensive boots. As others have said, brand recommendations are too personal to be beneficial. I cannot wear Keens as they are too narrow in the toebox for me but another poster here has said they are perfect for her wide feet. I currently have three pair from three different brands - Oboz, Merrell, Vasque. Each were purchased when preparing for my (postponed) AT hike. All are comfortable, good quality, and holding up well. I grab a different pair each time I hike so there is a constant rotation of boots. I have about 10 pair of thick wool hiking socks. You want wool, even in a warmer climate like Crete. I wear my wool socks year round. They come in fun colors and are a great way to personalize your hiking outfit. You want long socks; socks that stick up over the top edge of the boot. This will prevent rubbing and blisters from the leather/faux leather. Trekking poles are good but will take up space in your luggage. If hiking isn't the primary reason for your visit, I would see if your friend could borrow some poles for you. She may even have a pair already. Do you have a good quality pair of sunglasses and a good wicking sun hat? I would spend money on those before other accessories. Tilley hats are great and float on water if the wind blows them off. You are going to want good eyewear and headwear if you are going to be climbing on lots of light colored rocks (sun reflection). These items are lighter and will pack well. I could go on about other things but since you asked directly about boots, I'll stop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 13 hours ago, Ottakee said: Any chance you have an REI in driving distance? 13 hours ago, gardenmom5 said: I'd check REI. Thanks everyone for the REI recommendation - I only quoted two for context. I've heard of REI but like Land's End it's just a name I know, not a place I've ever had a need to shop. There's one about an hour away just north of Orlando, which is an area we go to often. I'll plan a trip there soon. 13 hours ago, Frances said: Just know that unlike hiking shoes, hiking boots need to be broken in. You will also want to buy some hiking socks. That's why I want to buy them soon, so I can start breaking them in before my trip next March. I'll ask about socks when I buy them. 12 hours ago, Rachel said: However, I’m assuming Crete is hot so I’m going to throw out a different idea. Not in March. My friend (also a Floridian) was surprised at how cold it was in spring. The average high when I'll be there is upper 50's to low 60s, lows in the upper 40s. Add in the constant cloud cover and that's freezing to this Florida cold weather wimp. 11 hours ago, prairiewindmomma said: Crete has some really rocky gorges that are beautiful. She may very well actually need hiking boots. Yes, it's quite rocky. She's posted many photos. There are three of us going to visit her at the same time and we recently video chatted with her and her husband. They both said make sure we get hiking boots with ankle support. Do hiking shoes come with ankle support? I'll definitely talk to someone at REI when I go and let them know what type of walking/hiking I'll be doing. 7 hours ago, rebcoola said: I like hokas these days. I have a pair of Hoka walking shoes. I didn't know they made hiking boots. Will look into it when I go to REI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Granny_Weatherwax said: Before looking at boots, I think you should consider your budget. Are these boots a one time wear purchase? Will you be likely to hike anywhere requiring boots after hiking in Crete? Boots are bulky and heavy and will take up room in your luggage. Will you want to bring them home with you or leave them there and bring home souvenirs instead? If the boots will be one time wear and get donated in Crete, getting less expensive boots from a store closer to you should be fine. Just make certain you break them in well in advance and buy the best socks you can afford. This is an excellent point. I doubt I'll ever use them again though never say never. 2 minutes ago, Granny_Weatherwax said: Do you have a good quality pair of sunglasses and a good wicking sun hat? I wear glasses all the time. They're transition lenses so they turn in the sun though it doesn't seem like March in Crete has much sun. As far as a sun hat, I live in Florida. I have many. Some fold up nice and small. I'll pack one just in case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Granny_Weatherwax said: Trekking poles are good but will take up space in your luggage. If hiking isn't the primary reason for your visit, We won't need poles. Hiking isn't the main reason for the visit but some of the places she wants to take us, that she enjoyed and knows we will, require going on some rocky terrain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lady Florida. said: Not in March. My friend (also a Floridian) was surprised at how cold it was in spring. The average high when I'll be there is upper 50's to low 60s, lows in the upper 40s. Add in the constant cloud cover and that's freezing to this Florida cold weather wimp. Yes, it's quite rocky. She's posted many photos. There are three of us going to visit her at the same time and we recently video chatted with her and her husband. They both said make sure we get hiking boots with ankle support. Do hiking shoes come with ankle support? I'll definitely talk to someone at REI when I go and let them know what type of walking/hiking I'll be doing. I would go to REI since you have one within driving distance. At temperature below 60s, I am already wearing mid calf to knee high winter boots for warmth so I won’t even be thinking of shoes. Besides I get cold in the airport and in the plane so I actually wear boots for flights. Everyone needs different levels of ankle support. My feet pronate easily so I rarely wear sneakers except high cut ones unless I am just walking in malls. My risk of spraining my ankle is high. My husband can wear mid cut shoes (those that just cover the ankles) and have no issues with rocky terrains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, Lady Florida. said: Thanks everyone for the REI recommendation - I only quoted two for context. I've heard of REI but like Land's End it's just a name I know, not a place I've ever had a need to shop. There's one about an hour away just north of Orlando, which is an area we go to often. I'll plan a trip there soon. REI started in Seattle - by very serious mountaineers. It is very serious outside sport supply. I remember when the only location was in an old warehouse outside of downtown. Lands End is nothing like REI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, Arcadia said: Everyone needs different levels of ankle support. My feet pronate easily so I rarely wear sneakers except high cut ones unless I am just walking in malls. My risk of spraining my ankle is high. I always had a tendency to suppinate (or underpronate if you prefer that term) and as a result I trip easily. I found out only in the last few years that my brother does too, which has me wondering if there's a genetic aspect. I suspect ankle support will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Lady Florida. said: I always had a tendency to suppinate (or underpronate if you prefer that term) and as a result I trip easily. I found out only in the last few years that my brother does too, which has me wondering if there's a genetic aspect. I suspect ankle support will help. Do you have high arches? My foot arches rarely touch the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Arcadia said: Do you have high arches? My foot arches rarely touch the ground. 7 minutes ago, Arcadia said: Do you have high arches? My foot arches rarely touch the ground. No, I have a fairly normal to slightly low arch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lady Florida. said: No, I have a fairly normal to slightly low arch. I would wear or bring a well worn pair of walking shoes. That would help. My shoes with Vibram soles last the longest in terms of wear and tear on the soles. My Merrell shoes and Hoka shoes have Vibram soles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resilient Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 You'll likely find something you like at REI. Get the socks, too, and consider a hiking pole (one or two - I use one on rocky terrain) The more you know about where you will hiking, and the more you can tell the person who helps you at REI, the better your decision will be. Rocky terrain can be really tough--the ankle support helps stabilize you, yes, but it can also save you from a lot of scrapes and bruises when you go a bit sideways. The stiffness of the sole makes a difference, too. Seriously rocky terrain, the stiffer sole supports you better, reducing stress on your ankles and knees. I have a pair of Vasques I got on an emergency basis about 10 years ago. We went "hiking" in Colorado, and I had my trail shoes; well, I didn't realize that this was rocky trail hiking and I was miserable all day long. We drove to the nearest small town, which had two "outdoor stores" and I found this wonderful pair of boots. When we went to the UK/Scotland a few years ago, this is the only pair of shoes I took. I wore them every day. The ones I got have more flexible soles than I should have had but they were a LOT better than my trail shoes, and the slightly-too-flexible soles made them more useful on my normal not-so-rocky trails. I was the only +50 person to make it all the way to the end of the trail (this was in Arizona). You HAVE to try them on. I have great respect for the products made by Keen - but the arch hits me in exactly the wrong place. Same with Chacos (sandals). Merrill's work fine for me, most of them, but my ankle bone is low, so some shoes are too high cut on the outside. I'm a shoe salesman's nightmare. This is the nearest thing to the model I have. It's a titch higher in the rise than mine, maybe -- it's hard to tell online. I do remember NOT liking the ones that went like 2" higher up my leg; it was annoying. I'm never going to hike in a place where I need that much support. Also, mine do have Vibram soles, which is mostly important because shoe stores can replace Vibram soles; there's not guarantee on proprietary soles. But I think the initial soles will outlive me, so it's not that big a concern. I also take a hiking pole with me now. It's a great stabilizer in rough patches, or while rock-hopping across streams, or getting that little bit of extra power on a big up or down step. Last thing: you know where else I have found these boots to be great? Beach walking. Not all beaches are sandy...a lot of them are quite rocky at least where I live. I mention it because it's not necessarily something you'd expect, but that might be worth considering when you are going to a country that is new to you. I hope you have a wonderful time! And yeah, boots are expensive, but a trip ruined by bad footwear ... that's worse! On our UK trip, we were told to bring hiking boots (like we are discussing here) and one of the ladies on the trip just read "boots." She and her knee-high fashion boots got to sit in a lot of book stores and coffee shops while the rest of us went out to see what we came to see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Yes, I often wear my hiking boots to the beach also. I live where old mountains go into the sea, so often I am hiking both in the same afternoon. I bought waterproof boots (Keen Targhee iii) but the Oboz and other waterproof brands seem to all stay dry as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Resilient said: I hope you have a wonderful time! And yeah, boots are expensive, but a trip ruined by bad footwear ... that's worse! On our UK trip, we were told to bring hiking boots (like we are discussing here) and one of the ladies on the trip just read "boots." She and her knee-high fashion boots got to sit in a lot of book stores and coffee shops while the rest of us went out to see what we came to see. Ooh, I mentioned earlier in the thread that I'd probably just wear them in Crete and never again. We're planning to go to the UK sometime in the next 1-2 years. I don't know what our itinerary will be or if/how much hiking will be involved but I might end up saving them at least for a few years to see if I use them again. With dh now retired we plan to do a fair bit of traveling. We're still pretty active and while some of our trips will consist of lying by the pool at a nice hotel there will also be outdoorsy trips in our plans. Some might possibly involve needing those hiking boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resilient Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lady Florida. said: Ooh, I mentioned earlier in the thread that I'd probably just wear them in Crete and never again. We're planning to go to the UK sometime in the next 1-2 years. I don't know what our itinerary will be or if/how much hiking will be involved but I might end up saving them at least for a few years to see if I use them again. With dh now retired we plan to do a fair bit of traveling. We're still pretty active and while some of our trips will consist of lying by the pool at a nice hotel there will also be outdoorsy trips in our plans. Some might possibly involve needing those hiking boots. Yeah…I pull mine out from time to time. These days, irs more for a walk on a rocky beach than a cross-country hike or trail hike. But I’m awfully glad I have them when I want them. Having the right equipment for unforeseen opportunities give more options for adventure! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane in NC Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) As others have mentioned, consider trail runners over hiking boots. My kiddo did the Appalachian Trail in the lighter weight trail runners (no extensive break in period required!) I love my Salomon's from REI. But, as previously noted, this is personal to your foot. I'll also reiterate support for Darn Tough socks. Edited October 29, 2022 by Jane in NC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 Here are a few examples of the type of terrain we'll be on. She and her husband (and adult kids on their visit) took these hikes and she wants us to see these areas too when we visit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane in NC Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I'd go with poles! They'll help with balance on the rocks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 My DD needs quite a bit of ankle support and likes Merrells a lot. We buy them at REI but some quick searching tells me they are also at Bass Pro. Seconding the poles. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resilient Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Boots for sure. Esp with those barnacles. Thirding at least one hiking pole. Edited October 30, 2022 by Resilient 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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