ezrabean2005 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Look in your garage, my child. :D *snort* :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Peach Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I don't understand this type of "evangelism". The Bible says "do not fear" over and over again. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Look in your garage, my child. :D :party::party::party: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Look in your garage, my child. :D :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezrabean2005 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I don't understand this type of "evangelism". The Bible says "do not fear" over and over again. :confused: This is where the Bible no longer applies. This is about getting people to look to a business (cough*church*cough) for the answers. The way Jesus comes or how he comes doesn't matter. But the things that matter: generosity, love, true kindness without manipulation, hope....those are harder to do and harder to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teachin'Mine Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 :party::party::party: You may want to hold off on that happy dance stuff. :glare: I think Jennifer was just trying to warn you that a snake got in there. :tongue_smilie: You don't have to believe me, but don't say I didn't warn ya. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyNellen Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 [\QUOTE]:iagree:I think it's hard for believers to understand that quoting the bible at unbelievers has no effect on us. If we don't believe in the bible, then what's written in it is meaningless to us. Perhaps because so many of us used to be unbelievers who considered the Word to be meaningless until we heard Scripture and fully understood it by the grace of God? I was certainly not born believing...spent much of my life utterly opposed to God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 You may want to hold off on that happy dance stuff. :glare: I think Jennifer was just trying to warn you that a snake got in there. :tongue_smilie: You don't have to believe me' date=' but don't say I didn't warn ya. :lol:[/quote'] That could be true. I need to consult my list to make sure Chucki is properly terrified of me and judgmental enough of everyone she knows. I have strict membership standards. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 That could be true. I need to consult my list to make sure Chucki is properly terrified of me and judgmental enough of everyone she knows. I have strict membership standards. :tongue_smilie: Wait. Hold the phone. It is possible the I'm not judgmental enough? How can that be? Do you even know me? :lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Wait. Hold the phone. It is possible the I'm not judgmental enough? How can that be? Do you even know me? :lol::lol: I know you well enough that I haven't "ignored" you. You're good to go! :lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I know you well enough that I haven't "ignored" you. You're good to go! :lol::lol: I still get the 911, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I still get the 911, right? Totally. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Oh, please God, may I have a blue 911 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet? I told dh recently I wanted a fuchsia Mustang Mach 1 convertible with black racing stripes. Yesterday I saw a baby blue vintage Mustang convertible with black racing stripes park in the parking lot across the street from my house. Apparently my faith is not strong enough, or I have unrepentant sin in my life for to be tempted so. :tongue_smilie: I found the video cheesy and I'll admit I let out a little laugh. A teen's video project? Okay, cute. An evangelistic tool? No. I do believe that Jesus will return, it's not up to me to figure out when or how though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Totally. :D Cool! I will now evangelize and spread the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I told dh recently I wanted a fuchsia Mustang Mach 1 convertible with black racing stripes. Yesterday I saw a baby blue vintage Mustang convertible with black racing stripes park in the parking lot across the street from my house. Apparently my faith is not strong enough, or I have unrepentant sin in my life for to be tempted so. :tongue_smilie: No, sweetie. It isn't a lack of faith or not being unrepentant enough. It is the fuchsia. ;) It is clearly spelled out in the Carble "Thou shalt not paint a muscle car fuchsia." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 No, sweetie. It isn't a lack of faith or not being unrepentant enough. It is the fuchsia. ;) But, but...but black and fuchsia were my wedding colors. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) But, but...but black and fuchsia were my wedding colors. ;) Cool. ETA: I suppose we can take the matter to a higher authority and seek Jezza's opinion. Edited April 10, 2012 by Parrothead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Cool!I will now evangelize and spread the word. Knock yourself out, babe. :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Cool. ETA: I suppose we can take the matter to a higher authority and seek Jezza's opinion. Yes, take it straight to the Top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I have to admit I laughed too. Not at the beliefs behind it, but at how cheesy the video is. :iagree: I'm a Christian, and I definitely believe in the second coming of Christ. The video is what was cheesy and laughable, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soror Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 In my humble opinion, a belief, or conversion (or more dedicated faith, I guess), based on or caused by fear is empty.I really don't understand this sort of proselytizing. I find it sad. This was the tactic of my church growing up and I agree. I was actually in a discussion last night about this very thing and unfortunatley I believe that some of my girlfriends do ascribe to this belief, knowing how damaging it was to me I am rabidly opposed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I wouldn't say that personally. (I'm not an atheist, I'm just not a Christian.) There are parts of the Bible that I think are beautiful. There are powerful ideas in the Bible that I find meaningful and try to apply in my own life - such as the constant focus on caring for the poor and helpless, and the constant questioning/inversion of power relationships. (The last shall be first, the peacemakers will be the victors, etc.) I agree, and I think I should have worded it differently. What I was trying to say was that if you don't believe in what the bible says about God and Jesus, then someone using bible verses to convert you is usually ineffective. It rarely works on atheists or even just non-Christians who aren't atheist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairyMom Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I think that if you want only positive responses to a video like that, you should post it on a forum for like-minded believers. Or are you looking for feedback about whether it's an effective evangelism tool? From my non-Christian perspective, it totally isn't. No. A title that eliminated anyone who thinks otherwise would look something like this: "If you think Jesus is coming back, check this out!" Or "Hey, Christians, look at this!" I thought the video seemed to be targeted at people who aren't "saved," as a warning. I assumed that it was being posted to this religiously diverse board as a tool of evangelism. Therefore, my opinion as an "unsaved" person seemed relevant. Christianity is not the default religion of this board. If y'all don't want to include me in the conversation, you have to tell me up front. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Actually, it is not the appropriate response. Sorry, I would not hysterically laugh at anyone's beliefs...even if they were very far from my own. Jmho.... It was the cheesy that was funny. Sorry, even serious things can be so badly done they are laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 She titled the thread, "Do you think Jesus is coming back?" I think that pretty much eliminates anyone who thinks otherwise, does it not? That would be IF you think Jesus is coming back. My answer is no, and I think "no" is a perfectly acceptable answer to the question in the title. So, I disagree: I don't feel I was eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Church Service Ends Abruptly when the unexpected happens. l Well, if you believe Jesus is coming back, this would not be unexpected, right? BTW, I'm interested in the percentages in who was left behind. Do people think that high a percentage of people listening to a rather fire and brimstone sermon will be saved? I hear some going on about "how few" will be saved. Etc. Is the final tally (only a handful) YOUR vision of the percent that will be left behind? BTW, I'd be the woman investigating the chairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairyMom Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 In my humble opinion, a belief, or conversion (or more dedicated faith, I guess), based on or caused by fear is empty.I really don't understand this sort of proselytizing. I find it sad. It can crumble easily. Look in your garage, my child. :D No, sweetie. It isn't a lack of faith or not being unrepentant enough. It is the fuchsia. ;) It is clearly spelled out in the Carble "Thou shalt not paint a muscle car fuchsia." You guys are hilarious!!! :D That would be IF you think Jesus is coming back. My answer is no, and I think "no" is a perfectly acceptable answer to the question in the title. So, I disagree: I don't feel I was eliminated. :iagree: ... and very arrogant to assume that it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeetime Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 As a Christian, I don't *do* this sort of thing. My parents used the "second coming" to scare the ever-loving snot out of me as a child. I was constantly terrified that Jesus would come back when I was doing something wrong/behaving as a child. Every little thing was a "sign" that Jesus was coming RIGHT THEN AND THERE. The video made me want to vomit as I remembered that childhood terror. I still feel sick. This isn't what Jesus was about. Jesus was/is about love, grace, mercy, and compassion. He didn't scare people into believing in Him. He ministered to the lost, sick, hopeless rejects. He showed love, grace, mercy, and compassion. You won't win any converts with the Law. Jesus said to share the GOSPEL, not the Law. I thought it was going to be a news article too. Yuck. It makes me mad to see fear being created and distributed. At least it was poorly done so it would be hard to take seriously. Growing up, this idea terrified me. It paralyzed me. It didn't bring me closer to God. :iagree::iagree:::blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellesmere Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Yes, take it straight to the Top. :thumbup1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 BTW, I'm interested in the percentages in who was left behind. Do people think that high a percentage of people listening to a rather fire and brimstone sermon will be saved? I hear some going on about "how few" will be saved. Etc. Is the final tally (only a handful) YOUR vision of the percent that will be left behind? Obviously those doused in too much cologne/perfume will be left behind. :leaving: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teachin'Mine Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) Obviously those doused in too much cologne/perfume will be left behind. :leaving: :lol: This thread has been hysterical! The video is laughable, but sad at the same time as that's not the way to spread Good News - or not IMO. But Jesus will return and the day and the time we do not know. : ) Edited April 10, 2012 by Teachin'Mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Obviously those doused in too much cologne/perfume will be left behind. :leaving: :lol::auto: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Obviously those doused in too much cologne/perfume will be left behind. :leaving: That made me spew! You are my hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWOB Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Obviously those doused in too much cologne/perfume will be left behind. :leaving: *snort* I love you guys! And Jennifer/God, can I please have a brand new bright orange Camaro with black racing stripes? I promise to throw one of my Bibles at someone today.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsey Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Even when I was a devout Evangelical, "on-fire" for the Lord, and a zealous evangelizer, I probably wouldn't have shown this to friends, Christian or non-Christian--it looked too darn corny! I had to watch with my hands over my eyes. Painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsey Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 BTW, I'd be the woman investigating the chairs. HA! I about died at that. Seriously! :lol: ETA: raises hand politely and requests a car. will kowtow and grovel if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Wait...I don't get magical chocolate?!? Forget it. I guess the tribulation has already started. :lol: magical chocolate = luscious, silky smooth, rich . . with NO calories. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Obviously those doused in too much cologne/perfume will be left behind. :leaving: :lol::lol::lol: magical chocolate = luscious, silky smooth, rich . . with NO calories. :D :thumbup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCrazyMama Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) magical chocolate = luscious, silky smooth, rich . . with NO calories. :D It will melt the fat off my body from the wrong chocolate too, right? I have to re-read to see how I can get some. Edited April 10, 2012 by Happyhomemama oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 <One ear cocked> Wait, did someone say chocolate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funschooler5 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Am I the only one that thought that the "saved" people were vaporized? It wasn't until the other people started looking distressed that I realized they were the ones being punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'm another one who laughed, sorry. Not because of the message (I agree with others who've said that hellfire and brimstone is a good turn off to religion), but because it was SO cheesy. The sort of thing I might expect from some of my younger high school film students. The way the message was given was funny, the message itself irrelevant to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFG Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Wouldn't a better plan for a god be to give away a free Porshe to everyone on the right path? No, no, no!!! I need a Mercedes Benz! (My friends all drive Porshes...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORGaACYbAk0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Obviously those doused in too much cologne/perfume will be left behind. :leaving: Along with those who ate too much garlic bread at lunch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Am I the only one that thought that the "saved" people were vaporized? It wasn't until the other people started looking distressed that I realized they were the ones being punished. Huh. I can imagine how the image could go wrong with people unfamiliar with the concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrganicAnn Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 cheesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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