Julie in CA Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I gave birth to 5 large-ish babies in a span of 7 years. No cutting, no tearing, but *lots* of stretching. :001_huh: Anyone feel like childbirth stretched them out beyond what Kegel exercises could possibly repair? Anyone go with a surgical option? :leaving: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Not yet, but it's tempting. I could give Jello a run for their money, on the basis of my tummy alone. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarthyMama Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 OT: Kegels don't do anything: http://mamasweat.blogspot.com/2010/05/pelvic-floor-party-kegels-are-not.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Yes, I've considered it and will be bringing it up with the doctor. I have a couple of issues that kegels have not solved....but then, with as many babies as I've had, I'm not surprised everything is wore out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forMe Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I am there with you. I do Kegel all the time, and while I think it helps to strengthen the pelvic floor, it doesn't work miracles. My first baby was 10-7, and my last was 9-15...the ones in between were 8ish pounds. I am a tall person who is not overweight and I only gained 14-20 pounds with each pregnancy, but my bottom took a beating each time and I did have tearing, cutting and repairing with most of them. I am curious, if anyone has found a solution besides surgery. I would prefer not to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 OT: Kegels don't do anything: http://mamasweat.blogspot.com/2010/05/pelvic-floor-party-kegels-are-not.html This is revolutionary stuff, holy cow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 My babies were all big, from 10.5 lbs to 9 lbs. Kegels DO work, if you are doing them correctly, IMO. I saw a physical therapist for 6 mos after my 3rd baby, and she showed me how to do them, as well as several other exercises. By doing the exercises correctly, I was able to reverse a uterine prolapse and I have complete control of those muscles. I absolutely did not want surgery, even though it was recommended to me. I took a gamble on Physical Therapy, and it did work miracles for me. I can't believe I just shared that on a public forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mejane Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 OT: Kegels don't do anything: http://mamasweat.blogspot.com/2010/05/pelvic-floor-party-kegels-are-not.html Good news for me - I hate kegels!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 It's a teA issue more than an incontinence problem. :blushing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail4476 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 OT: Kegels don't do anything: http://mamasweat.blogspot.com/2010/05/pelvic-floor-party-kegels-are-not.html Okay, that...THAT is an awesome article. I want to start doing squats right NOW! :lol: (Not sure about peeing in the shower....) More input: http://www.papafit.com/easy-exercise.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigail4476 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 It's a teA issue more than an incontinence problem. :blushing: Oh. :D ehhhhh...surgery? I've considered it myself, and my babies were on the small side. Just a little tweak is all it would take. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaney Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I have all sorts of issues that I am ignoring:D. I need a recto-vaginal fistula(super small) repaired thanks to 2 kids coming out face up, and then there's the peeing thing:tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 It's a teA issue more than an incontinence problem. :blushing: I'm not hip to the lingo, what does "teA" mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) I'm not hip to the lingo, what does "teA" mean? mattress dancing. ;) I don't think I'd get it, but my babies weren't big. If it's something that bothers you, that you think would make your lives together better, then I think you should do it. Edited January 10, 2011 by justamouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 mattress dancing. ;) LOL! Sheet wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 mattress dancing. ;) Now that I get:lol: But, how does that translate into teA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I gave birth to 5 large-ish babies in a span of 7 years. No cutting, no tearing, but *lots* of stretching. :001_huh:Anyone feel like childbirth stretched them out beyond what Kegel exercises could possibly repair? Anyone go with a surgical option? :leaving: I know what you mean. In fact, my male boss warned me about it. (Don't ask) I did see a show of woman who had that repaired as well as some external work done. Her husband didn't care about the condition but she did. He was pleased with the results. Ummm, the recovery didn't look easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in AZ Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I had pelvic reconstruction surgery due to problems with a large ovarian mass and did pelvic physical therapy afterwards which was very helpful. I had never heard of it but now I recommend it often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 LOL! Sheet wrestling. Good one! Slap and tickle? :D Now that I get:lol: But, how does that translate into teA? I have NO idea. Just is, the same way the sun rises in the East every day. Thus is the Way of the Hive. :tongue_smilie: bOOks are the things that fill bras, and I don't know the lingo for boy parts. :D I know what you mean. In fact, my male boss warned me about it. (Don't ask) I did see a show of woman who had that repaired as well as some external work done. Her husband didn't care about the condition but she did. He was pleased with the results. Ummm, the recovery didn't look easy. I saw that show too. Yeah, he was pleased with the results. The women are also getting their labia trimmed. :confused: There's a rant brewing in me about that stuff--but I think for many women, like many things, getting yourself tightened can make them feel better about intimacy, and make Tea more pleasurable, which is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I have NO idea. Just is, the same way the sun rises in the East every day. Thus is the Way of the Hive. :tongue_smilie: bOOks are the things that fill bras, and I don't know the lingo for boy parts. :D Ah, that explains some the titles of other posts that I didn't get but didn't open because I thought they were about the paper kind of books. When I was a little girl we called the boy parts do-diggers :lol::lol: I have no idea why but since it was in my spell check we must not have been the only ones, or it means something else. I saw that show too. Yeah, he was pleased with the results. The women are also getting their labia trimmed. :confused: There's a rant brewing in me about that stuff--but I think for many women, like many things, getting yourself tightened can make them feel better about intimacy, and make Tea more pleasurable, which is a good thing. Labia trimming?! Why would someone want that done? It seems like it would make tea less pleasurable:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Labia trimming?! Why would someone want that done? It seems like it would make tea less pleasurable:confused: Color me clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Color me clueless. I think I'd like to remain in the clueless club with you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindyg Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I feel like I got significant improvement with this inexpensive little device. I use it in the shower. (I know that was probably TMI, but I mention that detail to point out that I don't have to set aside any extra private time, and there's no need for lubrication or clean up.) It's just a few seconds a day, and I think it has helped me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peela Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'm not hip to the lingo, what does "teA" mean? It is a hive "in joke " because sometimes ..well, people like to not attract the search engines to the boards, as well as just preferring to use less explicit language. A while back (quite a while now) someone wrote a post talking about their making love issues- probably asking for advice- by using the term making tea instead. It was absolutely hilarious and the term has stuck ever since. The same as the booKs, for boobs, (and bookshelves for bras)which I can't remember if it was orginially a typo or not, but that stuck too. Someone should save those original posts when they happen. I can never remember the details even though I remember when they happened. I guess we never know how much they will "take" when they happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 It is a hive "in joke " because sometimes ..well, people like to not attract the search engines to the boards, as well as just preferring to use less explicit language. A while back (quite a while now) someone wrote a post talking about their making love issues- probably asking for advice- by using the term making tea instead. It was absolutely hilarious and the term has stuck ever since. The same as the booKs, for boobs, (and bookshelves for bras)which I can't remember if it was orginially a typo or not, but that stuck too. Someone should save those original posts when they happen. I can never remember the details even though I remember when they happened. I guess we never know how much they will "take" when they happen. :lol: Thanks for cluing me in! I was thinking because I didn't know the current lingo. I could just see me trying to be cool by using my newly learned terms and people looking at me like :confused: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamato3 all-boy boys Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Not me, but one of my IRL best friends, after 3 births, has major bladder control issues. She wants to bring it up to her dr. and look at surgical issues because she's tired of being 42 and peeing her pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraGB Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 . The women are also getting their labia trimmed. :confused: There's a rant brewing in me about that stuff--but I think for many women, like many things, getting yourself tightened can make them feel better about intimacy, and make Tea more pleasurable, which is a good thing. I don't think I'm old enough to read this thread. :leaving: (Had a cesarean for my super large double load, so no advice. But, boy, do I need a tummy tuck and boOk work.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2abcd Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 My friend had reconstructive surgery and does NOT recommend it. It didn't help and the recovery was awful. I found a great physical therapist using this link that Dirty Ethel Rackham provided: http://www.womenshealthapta.org/plp/index.cfm She also told me that for my situation, at least, Kegels do no good. The "Down There" dvd looks good. Squatting is easy enough. I would try those routes before surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughCollie Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Color me clueless. Me, too, and I'm going to stay that way! :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 My friend had reconstructive surgery and does NOT recommend it. It didn't help and the recovery was awful. Do you know if your friend had the surgery to correct incontinence, or if it was for another reason? :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole M Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Can't speak to the OP's question, but here's where the tea thing came from: http://welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55527&highlight=tea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I would, gently, caution against surgery. Consider trying almost anything else first. The previous link looks helpful. Also consider that there are many lovely, pleasing flavours of teA, not just the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Can't speak to the OP's question, but here's where the tea thing came from: http://welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55527&highlight=tea I just read through all 35 pages and it was HYSTERICAL!!! Thanks ever so much:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheryl in SoCal Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 My ds just asked what I was doing on my computer. "Researching school stuff," I tremulously replied:lol: Yeah, that's it, researching school stuff;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2abcd Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Do you know if your friend had the surgery to correct incontinence, or if it was for another reason? :bigear: I'm not sure if she had that -- I think she did-- but she had three pregnancies and the twins really messed things up. I know she was quite prolapsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamamaloca Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I recommend checking into physical therapy aimed at pelvic floor health. I had some problems, including a slight prolapse, after my third child. I went to physical therapy for several weeks and had a great improvement, and I've been able to maintain that improvement even after the birth of another child. Kegels do help, but they aren't the only issue. First, you have to be doing them correctly. Also, you need to have adequately strong abdominal and lower back muscles, which support the pelvic floor muscles. It's an entire system that need to be working correctly. I personally wouldn't try surgery before looking into a PT option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Okay, totally going to embarrass myself here: but is anyone familiar with non-surgical ways to help with a prolapsed colon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOrchidSong Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I feel like I got significant improvement with this inexpensive little device. I use it in the shower. (I know that was probably TMI, but I mention that detail to point out that I don't have to set aside any extra private time, and there's no need for lubrication or clean up.) It's just a few seconds a day, and I think it has helped me. Thanks for this link. I would consider trying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffe Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 How do I put this? I had a complete (3rd degree) tear when DD was born. My nutty-crunchy OB wouldn't do an episiotomy. When she stitched me up afterwards, she stitched too much. So I was smaller. Too small. 6 painful months later, I had surgery to open things back up. It wasn't that bad and made life much better. Drought over, IYKWIM. HTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I feel like I got significant improvement with this inexpensive little device. I use it in the shower. (I know that was probably TMI, but I mention that detail to point out that I don't have to set aside any extra private time, and there's no need for lubrication or clean up.) It's just a few seconds a day, and I think it has helped me. I'd try it also, except I don't fall within the parameters (11 pregnancies and babies as big as nearly 10lbs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekmom Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 My babies were all big, from 10.5 lbs to 9 lbs. Kegels DO work, if you are doing them correctly, IMO. I saw a physical therapist for 6 mos after my 3rd baby, and she showed me how to do them, as well as several other exercises. By doing the exercises correctly, I was able to reverse a uterine prolapse and I have complete control of those muscles. I absolutely did not want surgery, even though it was recommended to me. I took a gamble on Physical Therapy, and it did work miracles for me. I can't believe I just shared that on a public forum. Definitely try physical therapy before surgery. Your ob should be able to recommend a good one. It's more than just Kegels. She will give you what looks like a tampon to insert that has pressure sensors for a computer program. Then, on the computer screen, you will be able to see the strength of the squeeze. It's actually very helpful to see the bar graph on the computer screen go up/down according to the pressure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'd try it also, except I don't fall within the parameters (11 pregnancies and babies as big as nearly 10lbs). No kidding. It's for those "who have had one to two babies weighing less than eight pounds." How helpful. I'm now going to design a weight loss plan for those who are 1-2 lbs overweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DianeW88 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 The women are also getting their labia trimmed. :lol: :lol: :lol: The things I learn on this site!! Good heavens!! I can't even imagine how painful THAT surgery must be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 No kidding. It's for those "who have had one to two babies weighing less than eight pounds." How helpful. I'm now going to design a weight loss plan for those who are 1-2 lbs overweight. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dulcimeramy Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 No kidding. It's for those "who have had one to two babies weighing less than eight pounds." How helpful. I'm now going to design a weight loss plan for those who are 1-2 lbs overweight. :lol: (laughs the mama of four babies, 10 pounds each) I am going to try the squats-and-gluts method. That does make sense. I don't have a serious problem, but my own mother can jump rope with the grandkids and I can *not* jump rope unless I ask June Allyson what she recommends. I don't like that my mother has better bladder control than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 My babies were all big, from 10.5 lbs to 9 lbs. Kegels DO work, if you are doing them correctly, IMO. I saw a physical therapist for 6 mos after my 3rd baby, and she showed me how to do them, as well as several other exercises. By doing the exercises correctly, I was able to reverse a uterine prolapse and I have complete control of those muscles. I absolutely did not want surgery, even though it was recommended to me. I took a gamble on Physical Therapy, and it did work miracles for me. I can't believe I just shared that on a public forum. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'd try it also, except I don't fall within the parameters (11 pregnancies and babies as big as nearly 10lbs). http://www.amazon.com/GyneFlex-VTP-R-Light-Strength/dp/B001EK460U/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_3 this one is for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 http://www.amazon.com/GyneFlex-VTP-R-Light-Strength/dp/B001EK460U/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_3this one is for us. That's better. I'd seen the pink set and the blue set, but that one hadn't come up on the other pages for me. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Do they work? ...or, ...I don't know how to phrase this question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) :iagree::svengo: I can do the squats, but I'm not going to pee in the shower. I would be compulsively scrubbing and disinfecting like a maniac. Maybe I should just scrub while I squat. This is revolutionary stuff, holy cow! Edited January 10, 2011 by Tammyla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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