MamaBearTeacher Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I used to watch figure skating a lot but I haven't much over the past 10+ years. I was watching some recently and I noticed that the women's outfits show more on the rear than they used to. I guess this is the norm now? It made me a bit sad because a lot of these skaters are quite young and they probably don't have much choice and they are athletes who have trained for years and years, not models. Anyways, it just made me sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 http://www.thisisinsider.com/olympic-figure-skating-dress-evolution-2018-2 Some costume history 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acorn Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The Katerina Rule was made in 1988. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danestress Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) I looked back to see what women were wearing in the 90s. Doesn’t seem like the women’s costumes are substantially different, but I wonder if filming technology and increasingly athletic jumping expectations makes it seem so. Edited February 16, 2018 by Danestress 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIN MOUSA Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The Katerina Rule was made in 1988. I thought one of the commentators this year said it had recently been reversed, which seems to be true since there were a number of outfits consisting of leggings and no skirt. The Katerina Rule was that the female skaters had to have a proper skirt (no feather/fringe-type business), right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk8ermaiden Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes, it was revoked. Costumes are the same, coverage-wise, as when I skated in the 90s as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnsinkableKristen Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Cameras are better now, too. So when we were seeing high thigh and booty in the 90's it was blurry and so we noticed it less. Now it's in high def and we are in no doubt that we are viewing someone's crotch :laugh: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali in OR Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I skated in the late 70's/early 80's and followed figure skating pretty closely through the Michelle Kwan era. In watching these Olympics, I noted that skirts are longer than they used to be. I noticed the female Russian pair skater's free skate polka-dot dress probably broke the Katarina rule, but that's the only one to catch my attention so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstharr Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I'm not bothered at all my the current skaters' apparel. Its Johnny Weir's outfits that are a hoot. But, I love his and Tara's uninhibited commentary. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debinindy Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) The outfits on a couple of the lady skaters last night (Wed.) appeared a bit thong-ish to us...especially the last pair in yellow. Edited February 16, 2018 by debinindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I'm not bothered at all my the current skaters' apparel. Its Johnny Weir's outfits that are a hoot. But, I love his and Tara's uninhibited commentary. His outfits and hairdo look like they came right from the Panem Capitol. He just needs to add some colored eyebrows and a bit of glitter and he could host the Hunger Games... :lol: 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk8ermaiden Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The ladies outfits didn't start that way though. In warm ups they looked fine. I strongly believe, after re-watching the pairs skate, that the giant wedgies are happening after the throw twist, and some after the dismount from a lift. The number of times the guys are holding them up by their waists..things slide. Also, I know the illusion can bother people, but skating tights are VERY thick. So everything IS being covered very well, even if it doesn't look like it. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 In the article linked above, it seemed like all the outfits back to the '40's had understuff that was meant to be seen - leotards and so forth. And the skirts as far back as the '60's were pretty short. I mean, maybe there's an inch or so difference, but it's all short. And these young women are athletes. I think it's like performing in a leotard in a dance class. The skirt isn't really covering anything no matter what. It's just there to look nice. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk8ermaiden Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I think they're referring more to the fact that the leotard bottoms in the pairs skate often looked like thongs. But if you watch the practice, they started out looking normal. It's just wedgie city. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermom Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 How are the figure skating outfits any different than classical ballet tutus, especially the ones that are stiff and stick straight out? No one would ever critique a classical ballet outfit, would they? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I’ve been watching skating for a long time, just like everyone else, and oddly enough I was thinking to myself, “Gee, their leotards are coving more than they used to in the past.†Except for that yellow polka-dotted one. That was a wedgie-leotard. Sometimes I think the leotard is cut too small, but sometimes I think it’s that the movements they’re doing gives them a wedgie. Maybe different makers of the costumes are better at making them non-wedgie than others? But I haven’t seen all the skating, so maybe I missed the skimpier ones that you saw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiana Daniels Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 It's too bad the leotard isn't just stitched as part of the tights, or that they can't use "butt stick" like some girls do in gymnastics that sticks the leo to their bottom to avoid wedgies. Last night I couldn't help thinking how distracting it would be to get a wedgie while doing all that cool stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 It's too bad the leotard isn't just stitched as part of the tights, or that they can't use "butt stick" like some girls do in gymnastics that sticks the leo to their bottom to avoid wedgies. Last night I couldn't help thinking how distracting it would be to get a wedgie while doing all that cool stuff. I know I shouldn't go there, but the other night one of the male speed skaters had a really uncomfortably noticeable frontal wedgie. And I'm not one to notice these things usually. Guys - please make sure your unitard is long enough in the torso! And, yeah, I couldn't help thinking how uncomfortable it would have to be to skate really really fast with things so tight down there! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 It's too bad the leotard isn't just stitched as part of the tights, or that they can't use "butt stick" like some girls do in gymnastics that sticks the leo to their bottom to avoid wedgies. Last night I couldn't help thinking how distracting it would be to get a wedgie while doing all that cool stuff. Yes, I’m thinking the whole time, “Wedgie! Ouch!†1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiana Daniels Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I know I shouldn't go there, but the other night one of the male speed skaters had a really uncomfortably noticeable frontal wedgie. And I'm not one to notice these things usually. Guys - please make sure your unitard is long enough in the torso! And, yeah, I couldn't help thinking how uncomfortable it would have to be to skate really really fast with things so tight down there! Lol!!!! Is it wrong to admit I caught that too??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 http://www.thisisinsider.com/olympic-figure-skating-dress-evolution-2018-2 Some costume history Love. "American gold medalist Dick Button showed minimal skin at the 1948 Olympics." Teehee! What a blast from the past... I was a huge fan of Oksana Baiul and Katerina Witt. I'm an Eastern Bloc nerd though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalsummer Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I loved Katerina Witt. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstharr Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Lol!!!! Is it wrong to admit I caught that too??? Reminds me of a conversation I overheard in my bus riding days. I was sitting behind a group of ladies who were discussing their seating preference on the bus. One lady had the others giggling when she admitted that she preferred the aisle seat because it put her up close and at eye level to standing males. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegoat Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I haven't noticed them getting smaller recently. I will say that the skating costumes bother me a bit because they look so cheesy a lot of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I wish they would go back to basics so we are just watching the artistry of the performer not the choice of costume. I think a simple dance dress (leotard with skirt) could be just as nice as something covered in sequins that cost hundreds of dollars. I believe skater tights are opaque, even if flesh colored, so even in the case of the wedgie we aren't seeing anything. The basic design is based on the ability to have freedom to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmermom3 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I'm not bothered at all my the current skaters' apparel. Its Johnny Weir's outfits that are a hoot. But, I love his and Tara's uninhibited commentary. Have you seen his programs where he skates to Lady Gaga? I love his sass and his skating. The evening hairpieces are rather unique too. :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmermom3 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I wish they would go back to basics so we are just watching the artistry of the performer not the choice of costume. I think a simple dance dress (leotard with skirt) could be just as nice as something covered in sequins that cost hundreds of dollars. I believe skater tights are opaque, even if flesh colored, so even in the case of the wedgie we aren't seeing anything. The basic design is based on the ability to have freedom to move. I don't know that they necessarily detract from the artistry. I was watching some old clips of Johnny Weir's and noticed that the sequins along the back and arms were deliberately placed to catch the light and form intriguing lines while he was doing certain spins. It looked really cool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanier.1765 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I know I shouldn't go there, but the other night one of the male speed skaters had a really uncomfortably noticeable frontal wedgie. And I'm not one to notice these things usually. Guys - please make sure your unitard is long enough in the torso! And, yeah, I couldn't help thinking how uncomfortable it would have to be to skate really really fast with things so tight down there! I was going to say the exact same thing. It also left nothing to the imagination about the rest of his parts either. I'm not a man but OUCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiana Daniels Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Reminds me of a conversation I overheard in my bus riding days. I was sitting behind a group of ladies who were discussing their seating preference on the bus. One lady had the others giggling when she admitted that she preferred the aisle seat because it put her up close and at eye level to standing males. Oh dear! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderchica Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes. I was actually uncomfortable during part of their performance because of it. (I get that not everyone is, but not much was actually being covered.)I’m sure the skater was uncomfortable as well, since it was clearly a wedgie caused by her movements and not an intentional fashion choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The outfits on a couple of the lady skaters last night (Wed.) appeared a bit thong-ish to us...especially the last pair in yellow. So much wrong with that outfit, but I didn't notice the thong! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I loved Katerina Witt. I loved her too. And she actually had a curvy figure. DH and I were talking about all the girls being so flat-chested. I know a lot of Olympic athletes are because they work out so hard from a young age. But it seems more prevalent? Is that just my perception? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGrief Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 It's too bad the leotard isn't just stitched as part of the tights, or that they can't use "butt stick" like some girls do in gymnastics that sticks the leo to their bottom to avoid wedgies. Last night I couldn't help thinking how distracting it would be to get a wedgie while doing all that cool stuff. Female skaters go through tons of tights. They are constantly getting holes/rips. Stitching them to the dress would be problematic. Bought SO many pairs of tights during my daughters' 16 years of skating! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim in Appalachia Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I'm not bothered at all my the current skaters' apparel. Its Johnny Weir's outfits that are a hoot. But, I love his and Tara's uninhibited commentary. Yes! I love hearing them comment. If they could just get rid of the 3rd wheel. Gannon adds nothing to the commentary. As far as the outfits, I was thinking they were looking more "modest" . Styles change. when they showed a clip of Scott Hamilton winning in 84,all I could think was that it was wonderful that the men no longer dressed that way. :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderchica Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I loved her too. And she actually had a curvy figure. DH and I were talking about all the girls being so flat-chested. I know a lot of Olympic athletes are because they work out so hard from a young age. But it seems more prevalent? Is that just my perception?Flat chested in their leos or in street clothes too? Goodness knows, if I’m flying through the air, I’m gonna strap those suckers down by whatever means necessary lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegoat Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I loved her too. And she actually had a curvy figure. DH and I were talking about all the girls being so flat-chested. I know a lot of Olympic athletes are because they work out so hard from a young age. But it seems more prevalent? Is that just my perception? I noticed a few were looking like they had a pretty low fat ratio compared to what I'm use to seeing, it reminded me of the body-builder body type women get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Anyone else see I, Tanya? I was thinking how interesting it is that she was sewing her own costumes the best she could while Nancy Kerrigan was wearing things designed for her by big, famous names. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim in Appalachia Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I loved Katerina Witt. She's one of my all time favorite female skaters. She was amazing. Such strength and grace rolled together. I watched her every chance I got. She was a part of that group that toured, I believe Scott Hamilton was as well and Michelle Kwan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susanna Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I only get into ice skating during the Olympics and don't have the background some of you here do. Since Johnny Wier is being discussed, I just add my two cents.. it is somewhat distracting when he gets on the air. He's had his time in the spotlight as a skater. Yet, he seems to still want and need the focus on himself by unusual appearance and behavior. He did this in Rio too. I would say that rules of etiquette for a commentator should be to avoid extremes in appearance. It distracts from the commentating and the sport in general. D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalsummer Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Scott Hamilton and that routine he did to The Marriage of Figaro; Katerina Witt and the one she dedicated to Sarajevo - Where Have All the Flowers Gone?, I think. I loved those when I was maybe 8-12 or so. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalsummer Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Reminds me of a conversation I overheard in my bus riding days. I was sitting behind a group of ladies who were discussing their seating preference on the bus. One lady had the others giggling when she admitted that she preferred the aisle seat because it put her up close and at eye level to standing males. Reverse the genders in this story and I imagine the general reaction of the board would be quite different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiana Daniels Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Anyone else see I, Tanya? I was thinking how interesting it is that she was sewing her own costumes the best she could while Nancy Kerrigan was wearing things designed for her by big, famous names. I wanted to see this but it's not showing anywhere near me. Guess I'll have to wait for Netflix. However, I did watch the documentary--forget which station did it--and it was fascinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIN MOUSA Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Yes! I love hearing them comment. If they could just get rid of the 3rd wheel. Gannon adds nothing to the commentary. As far as the outfits, I was thinking they were looking more "modest" . Styles change. when they showed a clip of Scott Hamilton winning in 84,all I could think was that it was wonderful that the men no longer dressed that way. :D I see him as the "adult" of the bunch, allowing NBC to cover their a** by not allowing Johnny and Tara free reign... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I’ve been live streaming the skating via the NBC app on my Apple TV and prefer the international announcers over the NBC team’s blah-blah-blah-look-at-me silliness. I don’t even know who the announcers on that feed are—one is an Australian woman, and she’s good. They don’t even show their faces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalsummer Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I think you're listening to the same one I do on Bosscast; Wintermom (I think) in the other thread says it's Carol Lane, who is English (but now coaches in Canada), and Kurt Browning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 It’s apparently Belinda Noonan and Jim Van Horne with Olympic Broadcast Services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) I’ve been live streaming the skating via the NBC app on my Apple TV and prefer the international announcers over the NBC team’s blah-blah-blah-look-at-me silliness. I don’t even know who the announcers on that feed are—one is an Australian woman, and she’s good. They don’t even show their faces. I really wish NBC made it easier for non cable tv users to view the games. Edited February 18, 2018 by Rach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalsummer Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Ah, that makes sense! I thought she sounded Australian, but my accent perception isn't great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I really wish NBC made it easier for non cable tv users to view the games. I got a one-month trial deal to Direct TV Now so I could watch this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I know I shouldn't go there, but the other night one of the male speed skaters had a really uncomfortably noticeable frontal wedgie. And I'm not one to notice these things usually. Guys - please make sure your unitard is long enough in the torso! And, yeah, I couldn't help thinking how uncomfortable it would have to be to skate really really fast with things so tight down there! Noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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