unsinkable Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-framed/#chapter1 This is about a woman who was "framed" by a couple who thought the woman mistreated their son at school. The mistreatment was accidentally leaving him outside for several minutes at the end of an enrichment class during an after school program. Edited July 13, 2017 by unsinkable 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 :eek: :eek: :eek: That poor woman!!! Thank goodness the police officer was so skilled and experienced! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 :eek: :eek: :eek: That poor woman!!! Thank goodness the police officer was so skilled and experienced! I know! In most situations, she would have at least been taken into custody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meena Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I read that article a couple months ago. It's definitely one of those stories where the further I read, the more I thought there's no way this can be true. It's crazy to think that real people behave like that, especially over something so minor. Kind of on a side note, I absolutely love long form articles. Texas Monthly has some great ones. I also really liked this one about twins separated at birth. It gave me lots to think about regarding nature vs. nurture and the concept of family. And this article about 3 women from Ohio traveling to Florida was wonderfully written yet absolutely chilling. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Anyone else have any interesting long form articles to pass along? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I read it when it came out and subscribed by email so I wouldn't miss any new parts of the story when they came out. Such a bizarre story and so well done! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixpix5 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I read it when it came out and subscribed by email so I wouldn't miss any new parts of the story when they came out. Such a bizarre story and so well done! Me too. I read this a while back and was just floored at what this couple did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBM Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I could write one about my youngest's Opus Dei school. Oh my! The things that went on that I learned about later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I could write one about my youngest's Opus Dei school. Oh my! The things that went on that I learned about later. You should do it! We would all read it! :) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I read it when it came out and subscribed by email so I wouldn't miss any new parts of the story when they came out. Such a bizarre story and so well done! I agree. If it was a movie, I'd say it was too farfetched to be believable! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 I read that article a couple months ago. It's definitely one of those stories where the further I read, the more I thought there's no way this can be true. It's crazy to think that real people behave like that, especially over something so minor. Kind of on a side note, I absolutely love long form articles. Texas Monthly has some great ones. I also really liked this one about twins separated at birth. It gave me lots to think about regarding nature vs. nurture and the concept of family. And this article about 3 women from Ohio traveling to Florida was wonderfully written yet absolutely chilling. Thanks for the recommendations! I'm familiar with the story of Jo and her DDs :crying: but have not read that particular story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBM Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 LOL. Oh my, the things I learned. It would make a good movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) I get the ReadThisThing email newsletter, and they feature a lot of this type of article. They aren't all long-form articles, but many of them are or use similar types of visual storytelling. ETA: I just remembered this story. It's disturbing and made me really uncomfortable because I'm claustrophobic and the idea of underwater cave exploring gives me heart palpitations. But it was so interesting that I couldn't stop reading. Edited July 3, 2017 by Word Nerd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I think this is actually the first article I read, and I found the documentary site after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 That was a truly scary story how some people can be so nuts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 There is also this from last year... https://www.buzzfeed.com/michelledean/dee-dee-wanted-her-daughter-to-be-sick-gypsy-wanted-her-mom?utm_term=.op1mNJXRmx#.rpl0NxDj0J About Dee Dee and her daughter Gypsy. It is seriously disturbing, and there is a documentary on Netflix, too called Mommy Dead And Dearest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It's like a Lifetime movie (does that channel exist anymore, I don't have cable). The wife is really quite evil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsBasil Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I've read all the one shared. Here are some that have stayed with me. This one about a police officer who was abusive was chilling. http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/police-domestic-violence/ This one about a man pretending to be a member of the Rockefeller family. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2009/01/fake_rockefeller200901 This one about the professor who shot several colleagues during a work meeting. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/02/11/a-loaded-gun This is one about a woman who was shot and killed. Her husband said it was an accident and that her young son accidentally shot her, but the investigation was...flawed. http://www.9news.com/news/investigations/blame/blame-jill-wells-lincoln-county-accident-or-murder/407010267 This one about a man with amnesia and the search for his identity. https://newrepublic.com/article/138068/last-unknown-man This truly bizarre story about a man killed in a hotel room and the investigation. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/05/true-crime-elegante-hotel-texas-murder I guess most of mine are crime, but I do read about other things! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 That is completely nutballs. I'm so glad they didn't get away with such abusive, psychotic behavior because of wealth, connections, and more familiarity with the legal system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica_in_Switzerland Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Utterly bizarre. But more upsetting is that they haven't paid what they were supposed to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnE-girl Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Thanks for posting that. Such a cruel, stupid thing for two supposedly intelligent people to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Anyone else have any interesting long form articles to pass along? Longreads is a subscription email newsletter that sends a selection of great long-form articles. They also have a website. https://longreads.com The subscription used to be free, and I think is still just "donation" based. They ask for $5 a month but I think you can give less if you want and still get the emails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I am very, very tired this morning from staying up way too late reading these stories. I am abnormally fascinated by people you wish could be arrested before they ruin people's lives. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisoncooks Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Gosh, these are interesting but I shouldn't have read them before bed. I had the weirdest dreams... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 I am very, very tired this morning from staying up way too late reading these stories. I am abnormally fascinated by people you wish could be arrested before they ruin people's lives. Like the fictional story (and movie) Minority Report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 I've read all the one shared. Here are some that have stayed with me. This one about a police officer who was abusive was chilling. http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/police-domestic-violence/ This one about a man pretending to be a member of the Rockefeller family. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2009/01/fake_rockefeller200901 This one about the professor who shot several colleagues during a work meeting. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/02/11/a-loaded-gun This is one about a woman who was shot and killed. Her husband said it was an accident and that her young son accidentally shot her, but the investigation was...flawed. http://www.9news.com/news/investigations/blame/blame-jill-wells-lincoln-county-accident-or-murder/407010267 This one about a man with amnesia and the search for his identity. https://newrepublic.com/article/138068/last-unknown-man This truly bizarre story about a man killed in a hotel room and the investigation. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/05/true-crime-elegante-hotel-texas-murder I guess most of mine are crime, but I do read about other things! Thanks! I've read a couple of these but I'm eager to read the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 This truly bizarre story about a man killed in a hotel room and the investigation. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/05/true-crime-elegante-hotel-texas-murder I remember reading that one! I'm still surprised they were able to figure it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbaby Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 She was very lucky she got an inquisitive cop. Ninety nine percent of the time the discovery of the drugs would be the end of the story. You should never consent to a search. The momentary appearance of innocence and eagerness to cooperate means nothing in the ultimate legal process, in fact I think it's essentially treated as a confession to whatever's found. Sometimes cops themselves plant things. I thought the class dynamic was underexplored in the article. I think the fact that she was not on their social level contributed to their belief that they could mess with her with impunity. The article made it sound like they were just individually obsessed with statud but was there something about the local social environment that made a lowly renter seem disposable? What was the response of the people in their circle? etc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 She was very lucky she got an inquisitive cop. Ninety nine percent of the time the discovery of the drugs would be the end of the story. You should never consent to a search. The momentary appearance of innocence and eagerness to cooperate means nothing in the ultimate legal process, in fact I think it's essentially treated as a confession to whatever's found. Sometimes cops themselves plant things. I thought the class dynamic was underexplored in the article. I think the fact that she was not on their social level contributed to their belief that they could mess with her with impunity. The article made it sound like they were just individually obsessed with statud but was there something about the local social environment that made a lowly renter seem disposable? What was the response of the people in their circle? etc Yes to both points. You summed up my thoughts completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Like the fictional story (and movie) Minority Report? Isn't that a Tom Cruise movie? I have a hard time watching his stuff. He's... yeah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Isn't that a Tom Cruise movie? I have a hard time watching his stuff. He's... yeah. Tom Cruise is in the movie but it is based on a story by Philip K. DIck. Dick's work was also the basis for the movie Blade Runner (1982 version). A new Blade Runner sequel is coming out this summer, if anyone cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 What a nightmare! It's good that the experienced officer noticed inconsistencies right away but it must have felt surreal to that poor woman. And neither of those two showed any true remorse. What awful people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I have a friend whose ex and new wife have been this delightful as far as setting my friend up to get custody of her kids. they have been caught in most of their extreme deceit but still have custody. They are better liars than the people in the OP, I guess, because even when caught people agree with them. But at least my friend's ex is a person who wants his own kids bad enough to frame someone. The people in the OP were just controlling criminals. Honestly, it is scary the things they probably did they got away with. My friends ex did try to frame my friend for a DUII, but it didn't stick. He also framed her for stalking him, even when he was stalking her, again, she managed to prove he was the creep, but he still got what he wanted in the end. I wish she would sue, although, like the people in the OP, good luck collecting if she won. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It's like a Lifetime movie (does that channel exist anymore, I don't have cable). The wife is really quite evil. They both are. They were both toxic people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 The class thing was left out. It seems like the wife felt her social standing (money and education) afforded her superiority. She clearly felt this made it ok for her to destroy the woman. Like the way some people look at a bug. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 The class thing was left out. It seems like the wife felt her social standing (money and education) afforded her superiority. She clearly felt this made it ok for her to destroy the woman. Like the way some people look at a bug.I think it was likely education more than anything. Irvine is obsessed with education. People from other parts of the world move there just for the schools. My sister lived there for 2 1/2 years when her daughter was young. It was one of the few places in the US her Japanese husband would even consider due to both safety and education concerns. They rented, and I don't recall my sister ever feeling looked down on because of it. But she talked a lot about how competitive the parents were so I could totally see where the crazy mom went ballistic over the perception that her son was seen as slow and not far above average in every way. Now when my sister was later a single mom in the Midwest and her daughter was attending a Catholic elementary school, there she definitely felt looked down on both for being both divorced and not having enough money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsBasil Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I have a couple more! This story about a search for a person's identity and what it lead to(murder, more mystery, a genealogy search) is almost unbelievable. I don't want to give anything away, but if you like longform crime writing this is one to not miss. Very engrossing and sad story. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/05/13/finding-lisa-story-murders-mysteries-loss-and-incredibly-new-life/vCCxbYYUD63kjIoIMJQiWM/story.html This story about a woman's disappearance while hiking in Nepal was interesting to me. https://www.backpacker.com/trips/gone-girl-aubrey-saccos-disappearance-hiking-in-nepal And this story has stayed with me since I read it. Two Dutch women went missing while on a simple hike in Panama. The disappearance, search, and aftermath are well covered here. http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-lost-girls-of-panama-the-full-story 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsBasil Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I remember reading that one! I'm still surprised they were able to figure it out. Me too! There's another story about the same investigator figures out another baffling crime. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/12/vanishing-blonde-201012 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Me too! There's another story about the same investigator figures out another baffling crime. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/12/vanishing-blonde-201012 I would watch a show about him solving cases. It's also kind of unsettling that it would still be unsolved if it had been left only to the police. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted July 4, 2017 Author Share Posted July 4, 2017 Thanks for all the recommendations and chat about longform articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 The class thing was left out. It seems like the wife felt her social standing (money and education) afforded her superiority. She clearly felt this made it ok for her to destroy the woman. Like the way some people look at a bug. Her father also seemed quite willing to cover for both her and her husband. It looks like the apple didn't fall far from the tree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 This is totally an aside, but I loathe the LA Times website. It crashes my computer every time I use it. I finally just cut and pasted the article into a document to read since even when it's working, it gives my whole computer major lag. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I have spent way too much time this weekend reading this articles. Irvine is like some kind of utopia. I can't even fathom someone not being in jail if caught with the dope, but less a police dept devoting a dozen and more cops to the investigation. And that's not even getting into that I'm 99% confident no onther school district would have stood by her. I'm sure most would have caved at the hint of litigation. I get why she was so scared and freaked out, but in the other hand... daaang. She lives in some kind of magical wonderful place with a lot of smart and good people or her situation never would have gone like it did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I have spent way too much time this weekend reading this articles. Irvine is like some kind of utopia. I can't even fathom someone not being in jail if caught with the dope, but less a police dept devoting a dozen and more cops to the investigation. And that's not even getting into that I'm 99% confident no onther school district would have stood by her. I'm sure most would have caved at the hint of litigation. I get why she was so scared and freaked out, but in the other hand... daaang. She lives in some kind of magical wonderful place with a lot of smart and good people or her situation never would have gone like it did. I have wonder if the experienced cop who was there first , so had the "gut" feeling it was not a straight forward case, also felt the social standing / class differences in his work, making him more sympathetic to the underdog and get to the bottom of the case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 This is totally an aside, but I loathe the LA Times website. It crashes my computer every time I use it. I finally just cut and pasted the article into a document to read since even when it's working, it gives my whole computer major lag. Yes!! I think it took me well over an hour to get through it. At one point I asked my computer guy (dh) to fix it and he said it was the LA Times without even looking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Great article. My favorite line is, "I just googled you." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I have wonder if the experienced cop who was there first , so had the "gut" feeling it was not a straight forward case, also felt the social standing / class differences in his work, making him more sympathetic to the underdog and get to the bottom of the case. I have to wonder if the Mrs. already had a local reputation as a whackadoodle. That would explain why the cop and the school stood by her and went the extra mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I have to wonder if the Mrs. already had a local reputation as a whackadoodle. That would explain why the cop and the school stood by her and went the extra mile. I don't ow that it would explain it. Anywhere else, well most anywhere else anyways, the procedure is X to CYA, so you do X. In this case, X would have been to bring her in and follow the book for someone caught with drugs on them. X would have been discussing with school district attorney/school board and finding some way to cut her so they wouldn't have the expense of dealing with the problem. In most cases, people would have taken the least problematic and most CYA way. I'd like to think otherwise, but there's an over whelming amount of evidence against a rosier outlook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Another murder mystery - The monster of Florence (aka Amanda Knox is right, Italian police really are bad at their job). But re: Framed, besides that it also took me forever to get LA Times to show me the article - I don't get why the couple was never brought up on drug charges. They admitted to planting the weed = possession. And even if the other drugs were from their own medicine cabinet, passing out prescription drugs to other people is a crime. I guess they thought it was just a lesser charge, and would detract from the main crime? I don't know. But yeah, when it comes to discussions of race and drug crimes, I know there's bias and whatever, but moms stealing their kid's adderall is harder to catch than the corner kingpin hooking kids on crack. But geesh, it's right there and admitted and...meh??? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Another murder mystery - The monster of Florence (aka Amanda Knox is right, Italian police really are bad at their job). A book club I belonged to years ago read that for our book one month. There was a lot to discuss but it was a difficult book (due to subject matter) to read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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