daijobu Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't trust myself anymore to do simple math. If someone was born in November 2002, what grade does that put him in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quark Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 In CA that should be 8th? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Probably 7th grade. If there's a late fall cut-off so kids are starting K at 4.5 he could be 8th. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 8th grade if in California. Cutoff was December 2nd, for kids born in 2002 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 A lot of the cut off dates were changed from Dec/Jan to Aug/Sept in the last ten years. That birthday was a commonly redshirted one before the changeover, so you could maybe take that into account... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 7th in Texas (Sept. 1 cutoff). My dd is a November 2003 baby and she's in 6th this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2samlibby Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 7th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myeightkiddies Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 In many states, if the child's birthday is after Sep. 1, they would be a grade behind. While the average 13 year old is in eighth grade, this young man would be in seventh due to his birthday being in November. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 7th. I have a December, 2002 baby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakelly Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 7th. I have a December 2001 baby that will be 8th in fall. She missed the cutoff for kinder by 28 days, so most of her friends are going into 9th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabi Sabi Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 7th grade in Indiana 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Smith Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 8th in Ontario. But my boy with a November birthday when he reaches that age - I would consider 7th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Library Momma Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Parents' choice here. Typically poverty would send him as soon as eligible, and wealth would send him as an older. If highly gifted, he would skip a grade and/or grad high school in 3. If the parent wants him to be a star athlete, he will be older regardless of family income. 8th grade in CT Totally the opposite here. Poverty would lead to a child unprepared and not ready for K. If they do start early they are often more likely to repeat a grade in K through 3rd, Wealth would lead to a child more prepared for school and and parents would register as soon as the child is eligible. To many parents redshirting would indicate an unprepared child and/or a learning disability and would therefore not be preferred. The sports culture isn't pervasive enough for parents to redshirt because of it. Academics are where parents become competitive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daijobu Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 Well it's certainly a relief to know that it's controversial on these boards. On the one hand, I was a November baby and nowhere near the oldest in my class; all the kids with September and October birthdays were older than me. But it's nice that know he could go either way. Doesn't the term "redshirting" now extend to academics as well as sports, particularly when it comes to delaying K? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 7th here (Texas) and where we used to live (Maryland). I have an October 2001 and he is in 8th this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 7th in Florida. Cut off is Sept 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm in CA and would put that child in 7th, I don't care that the previous cut off was December. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Double post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheApprentice Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 In MD, that would be 7th. The cutoff for registration is Sept. 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefgazer Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 It would be 7th here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8filltheheart Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 My Nov 2001 bday dd is in 8th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaVT Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 7th in Vermont - cut off is (I think) the first day of school, which is 8/25 in my district. If not, then it's 9/1, so 7th either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbridgeacademy Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 7th in Indiana. Cut off back then was end of Summer-ish. There were a few years there where the cut off date was all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAtoVA Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 CA, where I attended school, the cut off is December 2 so the child would be in 8th. In the southeastern state I live in now the cut off is September 30 so that same child would be in 7th. My November 2003 child is in 6th this year and is endlessly fascinated by the fact that he could be in 7th grade instead, simply by moving. Redshirting is very common here for academic and athletic reasons almost exclusively among more well to do families. Poorer famiiles typically enroll their children in state sponsored PreK as soon as the child is eligible. This leads to classes with students that have a 1 1/2 year age range and vast differences in physical, emotional and intellectual maturity. Last year, in my DS 5th grade class, there were obviously physically mature and intellectually unchallenged students who would have benefited from starting middle school rather than staying in elementary school. I'm not a fan of red shirting. Our schools don't retain students but neither do they accelerate. It's a one size fits all system and if a child could benefit from starting school later (and some do) that same child has virtually no chance of having the decision "re-evaluated" at a later time so that he or she could possibly be moved up. I'm also not a fan of early, arbitrary cut off dates, but , hey, that's one of the reasons I decided to homeschool my November birthday DS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 CA, where I attended school, the cut off is December 2 so the child would be in 8th. In the southeastern state I live in now the cut off is September 30 so that same child would be in 7th. My November 2003 child is in 6th this year and is endlessly fascinated by the fact that he could be in 7th grade instead, simply by moving. Redshirting is very common here for academic and athletic reasons almost exclusively among more well to do families. Poorer famiiles typically enroll their children in state sponsored PreK as soon as the child is eligible. This leads to classes with students that have a 1 1/2 year age range and vast differences in physical, emotional and intellectual maturity. Last year, in my DS 5th grade class, there were obviously physically mature and intellectually unchallenged students who would have benefited from starting middle school rather than staying in elementary school. I'm not a fan of red shirting. Our schools don't retain students but neither do they accelerate. It's a one size fits all system and if a child could benefit from starting school later (and some do) that same child has virtually no chance of having the decision "re-evaluated" at a later time so that he or she could possibly be moved up. I'm also not a fan of early, arbitrary cut off dates, but , hey, that's one of the reasons I decided to homeschool my November birthday DS! The CA cut off used to be Dec. 2, it is now Sept. 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 8th grade in CT Totally the opposite here. Poverty would lead to a child unprepared and not ready for K. If they do start early they are often more likely to repeat a grade in K through 3rd, Wealth would lead to a child more prepared for school and and parents would register as soon as the child is eligible. To many parents redshirting would indicate an unprepared child and/or a learning disability and would therefore not be preferred. The sports culture isn't pervasive enough for parents to redshirt because of it. Academics are where parents become competitive. Do poorer parents really hold there kids back for being unprepared? From what I have seen they send then as soon as possible because they cannot afford day care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Another way of calculating this is by expected graduation date. Most kids graduate high school the June after they turn 18. Calculate when that would be and work back to now. But some kids graduate at 17 or 19, depending on where in the year their birthday falls, or some other reason. It doesn't really matter all too much on paper. When the kid wants to launch into college or work, or is able to launch, is another matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Library Momma Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Do poorer parents really hold there kids back for being unprepared? From what I have seen they send then as soon as possible because they cannot afford day care. If the parents have their children in a Head Start pre-K program it does not matter because they are not paying for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 If the parents have their children in a Head Start pre-K program it does not matter because they are not paying for it. I am pretty sure that around here head start does not take children who are school aged. I just did some research, and the federal age limit is "compulsary school age"; that of course varies from state to state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 If the parents have their children in a Head Start pre-K program it does not matter because they are not paying for it. You couldn't get free Head Start if the kid qualified by the official cut-off to be in K. This is actually why the state I grew up in changed their cut off date to be even earlier than it already was. So many people were holding back their kids that the state officials didn't want to dis-advantage the poor that used Head Start and who had kids who might not be ready to start K just after they turned 5. And, on the original topic ... 7th grade although I know of several homeschooling moms who have late (Nov/Dec) birthday kiddos who have them in the next grade up (high school age now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Library Momma Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You couldn't get free Head Start if the kid qualified by the official cut-off to be in K. This is actually why the state I grew up in changed their cut off date to be even earlier than it already was. So many people were holding back their kids that the state officials didn't want to dis-advantage the poor that used Head Start and who had kids who might not be ready to start K just after they turned 5. And, on the original topic ... 7th grade although I know of several homeschooling moms who have late (Nov/Dec) birthday kiddos who have them in the next grade up (high school age now). In CT Head start is for children btw the ages of 3 and 5. Compulsory education in school begins at age 5, But cutoffs are Dec 31st so many children starting K are 4 1/2. It is those 4 1/2 year old that can be eligible for another year of Head Start or redshirted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 In CT Head start is for children btw the ages of 3 and 5. Compulsory education in school begins at age 5, But cutoffs are Dec 31st so many children starting K are 4 1/2. It is those 4 1/2 year old that can be eligible for another year of Head Start or redshirted. I see CT's cutoff is now the latest in the Union & they are mulling a change, too. ... And it looks like pre-school programs for low income families is one of their major concerns in making the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Library Momma Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I see CT's cutoff is now the latest in the Union & they are mulling a change, too. ... And it looks like pre-school programs for low income families is one of their major concerns in making the change. It comes up every few years. It will be interesting to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAtoVA Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 kitten 18—the cut in CA is now September 1st????!!! AGGGHHHHH!!!! Wrong way move in my opinion..... Guess I'm actually better off where I am now with the (too early in my opinion) September 30th cut off date. SHEESH!!!! CT, Don't do it!! Don't give in!!!! Don't conform!!!! : P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAmom Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 My dd is Novemeber 2003 and has started 7th grade. We are in CA so when she started the cut-off was in December. It has now changed but I'm not moving her back a grade?! So for November 2002 that would put child in 8th grade in CA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 My dd is Novemeber 2003 and has started 7th grade. We are in CA so when she started the cut-off was in December. It has now changed but I'm not moving her back a grade?! So for November 2002 that would put child in 8th grade in CA. Of course you wouldn't move her back a grade. The cut-off date for compulsory school attendance is not retroactive. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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