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I found out my state is having a vote on legalizing marijuana for medical use only. Use would be by prescription only for serious medical conditions and stricitly monitored.

 

This is marijuana in a smokable form, rather than a pill, which is already available by prescription. According to supporters, the smokable form is much more effective than the pill for alleviating extreme nausea and pain and would be prescribed when more traditional medicines failed to ease suffering in some patients. Smokabale marijuana works where nothing else does, they argue.

 

Opponents say that medical marijuana isn't necessary; current medicines are effective in managing pain and nausea in seriously ill patients. They argue that legalizing marijuana for medical use would lead to abuse of the system and illicit distribution, and is the first step in making it legal for recreational purposes.

 

1. How do you feel about prescription marijuana. Would you vote yes or no and why?

 

2. Do you feel it's an appropriate issue to be placed on the ballot for ordinary citizens to cast a vote on? Why or why not?

 

Or do you think that since it's a medical prescription issue it's more appropriate for the FDA, pharmacologists and doctors to determine whether marijuana could or should be distributed to a select group of patients? Why or why not?

 

Okay, hive, put this in your pipes and smoke it! Then tell me what you think. Bring it on, dudes!:001_smile:

 

:lurk5: (here's some corn if you get the munchies:D)

 

BTW, I'm not just trying to stir the pot (cool pun, why not use it?). I'm genuinely interested in this topic for a variety of reasons. The upcoming vote was a shock to me as is the intensity of opinion that's appearing in my small town newspaper. :bigear:

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I do not think it should be legalized, as that just gives the current street peddlers a legal way to make a profit off it. I do think though it should be regulated, grown by the gov't, sold in tobacco shops to adults only and heavily taxes just like tobacco products and alcohol. That way it can be legally purchased by adults and not sold by guys on the street that are lacing it with other more serious drugs and poisons. I do not think it needs to be for medicinal purposes, but if it is done right can make the current dealers pretty much obsolete and rather than the gov't wasting money busting grow ops, they can be earning money off the sale of it through taxes and putting that back into the system for schools, health care etc where there never seems to be enough money being delegated.

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I think it should be legal for recreational purposes. I am not convinced of it's medical properties, but I have not done much research (and no field studies in the last 10+ years lol) in that area. I see no benefit to the "war on drugs" which is what I base my opinion on.

 

As for how it should be handled, if it is to be dispensed by doctors, I see no need to put it on a ballot for a vote. I mean, we didn't put Viagra to a vote, did we? I think it is up to the FDA to approve it and the doctors as to whether they want to prescribe it. Heck, it was used by Elizabeth I, and I don't see how it's any different than other natural remedies.

 

Interesting thing to ponder.

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I do not think it should be legalized, as that just gives the current street peddlers a legal way to make a profit off it.
In Oregon at least, while it is legal for those with a permit to possess marijuana, it is not legal to sell marijuana. Patients can grow their own. The Feds don't recognize Oregon's law.

 

FWIW, I think marijuana should be legalized, period.

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I'm for the legalization of all drugs. If someone is sick and pot makes them feel better, I have no issue with them being able to use it. On the other hand I'm a no tolerance kinda of gal with things like drunk driving or endangering others because of drug use. Mixed bag... that is me.

 

 

:iagree:I'm also for legalizing drugs, and think you should face manslaughter charges if you kill or hurt somebody while you are drunk or high.

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I'm not in favor of it.... I have multiple sclerosis with severe nerve pain and spasticity. There are zero meds I can take for it that don't affect my altertness. I've never taken any muscle relaxer or various seizure meds for more than a couple months bc of that. I can't imagine smoking marijuana and functioning to care for my family, or just myself properly.

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I can't imagine smoking marijuana and functioning to care for my family, or just myself properly.
Some days I think it might actually improve my mothering...

 

:leaving:

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I'm for the legalization of all drugs. If someone is sick and pot makes them feel better, I have no issue with them being able to use it. On the other hand I'm a no tolerance kinda of gal with things like drunk driving or endangering others because of drug use....

 

 

I agree with Jenny. Possibly I could have benefited from marijuana when pregnant. I suffered from severe dehydrating hyperemesis gravidarum, i.e., puking.

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Well, I was a zombie on a super low dose of Topamax. Nothing got me really upset, sad or excited. I was steady, mellow, never changing - I was in a fog. I've gotten firm a few times with the children since being off of it - and they are so excited - "Yea - Mommy's back!!" :)

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Some days I think it might actually improve my mothering...

 

:leaving:

 

That's the funniest thing I've heard in a long, long time!

 

I am an advocate of legalizing for medicinal purposes for certain. Given the right set of convincing arguments, I could opt for total legalization. How is this any different than prohibition of alcohol in the '20s? It causes similar reactions to alcohol, sans the calories. Maybe we should nix alcohol altogether and make smoking cigarettes illegal, too. Don't see how it's that much different.

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I'm for the legalization of all drugs. If someone is sick and pot makes them feel better, I have no issue with them being able to use it. On the other hand I'm a no tolerance kinda of gal with things like drunk driving or endangering others because of drug use. Mixed bag... that is me.

 

Joining you in the mixed bag. There's room for both of us, right? :D

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Depends on the relative size and permeability of the bag.

 

I guess there's always pills...

Yeah, it would be too dark for needles.
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I say legalize it altogether. Did you hear about the storm troopers beating down the home of the mayor in some town in the Midwest, killing the homeowner's dog (a Lab, who wasn't doing anything except being in *his own kitchen,* for goodness' sake), making the mil lie face down on the floor next to the dead dog, requiring the mayor to sit in his undies for a couple of hours until someone figured out he was innocent...all because he was suspected of being a drop for marijuana??? :ack2:

 

So, yes, I'd absolutely vote to make it legal for medicinal purposes. Right on.

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I think it should be legal. Marijuana is safer than its couter part alcohol imo, only because no one has ever over dosed on it. I have never heard of a smoker getting violent, just the opposite in fact; unlike alcohol which tends to make many violent. But I agree that there should be stiffer consequences for those drive, work while or after smoking. My take on it is as long as it comes from the ground it is probably okay. Not to mention the room it would clear up in our jail systems for serious crimes.

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We had a full-blown debate on this in my college debate class. It was the most fun I've ever had in a classroom setting!

 

The only thing I can see would be a problem with it being legal is the testing after an accident. At this time, there is no way (to my knowledge) to test for marijuana by levels. If you smoked some yesterday and then drove today, it would still be in your system, though when you drove today, you were sober. If they could test for it by levels, I'd be for it.

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We had a full-blown debate on this in my college debate class. It was the most fun I've ever had in a classroom setting!

 

The only thing I can see would be a problem with it being legal is the testing after an accident. At this time, there is no way (to my knowledge) to test for marijuana by levels. If you smoked some yesterday and then drove today, it would still be in your system, though when you drove today, you were sober. If they could test for it by levels, I'd be for it.

 

 

Those who are in favor of legalization, what do you say to this?

 

And what about the public issue?

 

Really, much of Amsterdam *reeks* of pot, I would hate that. And I run into the problem of people smoking in public here as it is and it's illegal.

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If you smoked some yesterday and then drove today, it would still be in your system, though when you drove today, you were sober. If they could test for it by levels, I'd be for it.

 

Well, you could tell them a stupid joke and time how long they laugh.

 

I'm thinking a contraption could also be built that would detect the slight differences in a stoned vs. not stoned laugh. It's subtle. The instrument would have to be very sensitive. But it's possible.

 

You could put Cheetos in front of them and see if they can resist.

 

All sorts of fun tests! (said completely tongue-in-cheek :tongue_smilie:)

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I say legalize it altogether. Did you hear about the storm troopers beating down the home of the mayor in some town in the Midwest, killing the homeowner's dog (a Lab, who wasn't doing anything except being in *his own kitchen,* for goodness' sake), making the mil lie face down on the floor next to the dead dog, requiring the mayor to sit in his undies for a couple of hours until someone figured out he was innocent...all because he was suspected of being a drop for marijuana??? :ack2:

 

 

Wasn't that horrible?

 

I recall a night in a very busy NYC ER. I had a med student trailing me who went on about the evils of MJ. I was tiring of it. I suddenly stopped him and said: look around this ER. We have PCP psychosis, we have AIDS, we have DT's and cirrhosis of the liver, we have an MI from coke, we have a benzo withdrawal seizure, and we have a man shot over 10 times including through both eyes, over crack dealing. Who is here because of MJ?

 

His reply? "I never thought of that".

 

It is also a very expensive war.

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Well, you could tell them a stupid joke and time how long they laugh.

 

I'm thinking a contraption could also be built that would detect the slight differences in a stoned vs. not stoned laugh. It's subtle. The instrument would have to be very sensitive. But it's possible.

 

You could put Cheetos in front of them and see if they can resist.

 

All sorts of fun tests! (said completely tongue-in-cheek :tongue_smilie:)

 

:lol::lol:

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I feel that Mj should be legalized for private use. Like any other "altering" substance, one has to be of a certain maturity level to use it responsibly. I have followed the paths of those I was associated with in my wild days, and the alcoholics descended much farther than the potheads. More lives are destroyed by the war on drugs than the drugs themselves, and it would be more stable and profitable in the end if mj was legalized. Then the system could focus on those drugs that cause the most violence and disruption. The tax money would also be fabulous.

 

I cannot quote sources off the top of my head because it is a long time since I studied the history of government policy on mj beyond a history channel special, but there were many dubious factors in the criminalization of marijuana. People who act irresponsibly with their addictions need harsher punishment, I believe drunk driving should involve a year or more of jail time, for example.

 

Jmho, jen

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I feel that Mj should be legalized for private use. Like any other "altering" substance, one has to be of a certain maturity level to use it responsibly. I have followed the paths of those I was associated with in my wild days, and the alcoholics descended much farther than the potheads. More lives are destroyed by the war on drugs than the drugs themselves, and it would be more stable and profitable in the end if mj was legalized. Then the system could focus on those drugs that cause the most violence and disruption. The tax money would also be fabulous.

 

I cannot quote sources off the top of my head because it is a long time since I studied the history of government policy on mj beyond a history channel special, but there were many dubious factors in the criminalization of marijuana. People who act irresponsibly with their addictions need harsher punishment, I believe drunk driving should involve a year or more of jail time, for example.

 

Jmho, jen

 

Yes, the history on this is quite interesting. It was many years ago that I researched it. I'm sure it's much easier now with google. I was apalled with the reasons for criminalizing the use and sale of it. Absolutely ridiculous imho.

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I'm for the legalization of all drugs. If someone is sick and pot makes them feel better, I have no issue with them being able to use it. On the other hand I'm a no tolerance kinda of gal with things like drunk driving or endangering others because of drug use. Mixed bag... that is me.

 

:iagree: 'nuff said. :001_smile:

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Well, you could tell them a stupid joke and time how long they laugh.

 

I'm thinking a contraption could also be built that would detect the slight differences in a stoned vs. not stoned laugh. It's subtle. The instrument would have to be very sensitive. But it's possible.

 

You could put Cheetos in front of them and see if they can resist.

 

All sorts of fun tests! (said completely tongue-in-cheek :tongue_smilie:)

 

:lol:

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I found out my state is having a vote on legalizing marijuana for medical use only. Use would be by prescription only for serious medical conditions and stricitly monitored.

 

This is marijuana in a smokable form, rather than a pill, which is already available by prescription. According to supporters, the smokable form is much more effective than the pill for alleviating extreme nausea and pain and would be prescribed when more traditional medicines failed to ease suffering in some patients. Smokabale marijuana works where nothing else does, they argue.

 

Opponents say that medical marijuana isn't necessary; current medicines are effective in managing pain and nausea in seriously ill patients. They argue that legalizing marijuana for medical use would lead to abuse of the system and illicit distribution, and is the first step in making it legal for recreational purposes.

 

1. How do you feel about prescription marijuana. Would you vote yes or no and why?

 

2. Do you feel it's an appropriate issue to be placed on the ballot for ordinary citizens to cast a vote on? Why or why not?

 

Or do you think that since it's a medical prescription issue it's more appropriate for the FDA, pharmacologists and doctors to determine whether marijuana could or should be distributed to a select group of patients? Why or why not?

 

Okay, hive, put this in your pipes and smoke it! Then tell me what you think. Bring it on, dudes!:001_smile:

 

:lurk5: (here's some corn if you get the munchies:D)

 

BTW, I'm not just trying to stir the pot (cool pun, why not use it?). I'm genuinely interested in this topic for a variety of reasons. The upcoming vote was a shock to me as is the intensity of opinion that's appearing in my small town newspaper. :bigear:

 

 

When my mother was going through chemo, her oncologist said he had no objection at all to her doing so.

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I am kind of a libertarian on this one...legalize it. People are able to make their own decisions.

 

I'm with you here except I get stuck still on how do you penalize a person who has caused harm to another while intoxicated? There just isn't any way to determine it yet...

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Yes, the history on this is quite interesting. It was many years ago that I researched it. I'm sure it's much easier now with google. I was apalled with the reasons for criminalizing the use and sale of it. Absolutely ridiculous imho.

 

:iagree:

 

The criminalization of marijuana is ridiculous - so much so that it extends to hemp which is a very useful plant. Hemp fiber can be used on so many applications, but cannot be grown in the US because of our foolish drug policies.

 

I believe marijuana should be treated no differently than Prozac, morphine, alcohol or tobacco. Addiction should be handled as a medical/psychological matter instead of a criminal one. It seems to me that criminalization is a very poor deterrent to drug use. On the other hand, it does a good job of supporting the prison industrial complex as well as the black market. It's stupid to spend so much money locking up non-violent drug offenders for possession of banned controlled substances, when alcohol and nicotine addicts get off free.

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Well they don't test for it now....do they? Why would they have to start if it was legal?

 

No, because they can't. What I mean is, like a breathalizer. If you harm someone while driving a vehicle intoxicated by pot, you should be held responsible, just like you would if you did so while drunk. kwim?

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If someone has a accident....and they happen to find weed in their car....what happens? Are they automatically charged with DUI?

 

As you can see...I have no clue how it works, LOL. I wonder if the standard DUI test (road side) would work if you were high on weed? Anyone know the answer to that, LOL!

 

Tammy

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No, because they can't. What I mean is, like a breathalizer. If you harm someone while driving a vehicle intoxicated by pot, you should be held responsible, just like you would if you did so while drunk. kwim?
Why not a standard sobriety test?
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If there is one, great! I just don't think there's one available that would measure the amount of pot in one's system at the time of the accident...
No, the "Walk a straight line; stand on one foot; touch your nose" variety.
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No, the "Walk a straight line; stand on one foot; touch your nose" variety.

 

Okay, I see what you're saying...I'll have to ponder that one....

 

ETA: I told dh this and he said, "most people could pass it...they might be giggling the whole way through, but they could pass it." :lol:

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